Re: New Bundle Version 1.3.10

2010-11-02 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:22:07 + Erinn Clark er...@torproject.org
wrote:
* M moeedsa...@gmail.com [2010:10:16 18:48 +]:=20
 Why the switch to noscript? and link on the issue?

Hey there,

I am working on writing this up -- I sat down with Mike Perry, the Torbutton
developer, and we went over what each of the Firefox extensions added. It's=
 not
in any kind of proper document yet, but here are my notes about the new
extensions so you aren't left hanging for too much longer:

HTTPS-Everywhere
- pre-emptively converts http URLs into https URLs for many popular
  sites that support https

NoScript
- majority of options are disabled

 Erinn, I'm not sure what you meant there.  Did you mean that NoScript
disables the majority of Firefox options?  Or that the majority of NoScript
options is disabled in this version of the bundle?

- allows users to globally toggle javascript
- provide click-to-play placeholders in the event that users want to set to=
rbutton to
  enable plugins

 FWIW, I'd like to recommend also using QuickJava, which allows toggling
of Java and JavaScript individually.  In other words, allowing scripts in
NoScript allows one still to disable Java while leaving JavaScript enabled
if one so desires.  If scripts are disabled in NoScript, then clicking on
the QuickJava buttons has no effect.  I, for one, *never* want Java enabled
for anything, but in a very few cases, I do allow JavaScript to run.

BetterPrivacy
- exists only to delete flash cookies in the event that users allow
  plugins and run certain flash apps. it cleans up any data that flash
  might write outside of our control. (backup mechanism.)

I'll let you know when I have a fuller analysis available.

 Okay.  You might want to look through all the stuff on the NoScript
web pages to get a better understanding of the extensive list of pretty awful
leakages and attacks that NoScript can block.


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Re: New Bundle Version 1.3.10

2010-11-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk

On 11/2/2010 3:01 AM, Scott Bennett wrote:

  On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:22:07 + Erinn Clarker...@torproject.org
wrote:

NoScript
- majority of options are disabled

  Erinn, I'm not sure what you meant there.  Did you mean that NoScript
disables the majority of Firefox options?  Or that the majority of NoScript
options is disabled in this version of the bundle?
Not sure what was meant, but would it make * any * sense to include 
NoScript  then disable most functionality of it?


On 11/2/2010 3:01 AM, Scott Bennett wrote:

  FWIW, I'd like to recommend also using QuickJava, which allows toggling
of Java and JavaScript individually.  In other words, allowing scripts in
NoScript allows one still to disable Java while leaving JavaScript enabled
if one so desires.

Huh?  It's early in AM, but which are you advocating - or both?

   If scripts are disabled in NoScript, then clicking on
the QuickJava buttons has no effect.
Others can weigh in on this:  In past, I've had conflicts running 
QuickJava  Torbutton.  One prob was once toggled Torbutton off,  shut 
down Tor, QuickJava didn't properly toggle plugins unless restarted 
Firefox - * at minimum. *  Been a while, but may have had to uninstall / 
reinstall QuickJava to restore functions.  Plan on trying it again.

   I, for one, *never* want Java enabled
for anything, but in a very few cases, I do allow JavaScript to run.
How do you get pages to work correctly - such as clicking links to d/l 
files, if only allow JS on very few pages?  Seems to me, more trusted 
sites than not require some JS to use the sites.  I'm curious, since you 
said very few, not on trusted sites.

  Okay.  You might want to look through all the stuff on the NoScript
web pages to get a better understanding of the extensive list of pretty awful
leakages and attacks that NoScript can block.
Back to QuickJava  NoScript:  Aren't they overlapping - possibly 
conflicts of using both?


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