Proposal: NEWNYM buckets

2011-01-06 Thread grarpamp
I've commonly seen exits (or paths) reused within a certain period
of time after issuing a NEWNYM.

For the users that have such a need, it would be nice if Tor could
optionally keep a historical bucket of configurable entry length
(whether based upon time and/or number of prior nodes/paths used).
Such that any such nodes or paths would not be reused so long as
they remained in the bucket according to its expiry rules.

And as an aside, to the extent it is not already done, different
ports on the same host should not necessarily be aggregated over
the same circuits. I'd wager that they should not, so as to appear
separate to the observer. Mostly for efficiency. Think of
checking/writing multiple email accounts on the same provider...
via IMAP/POP/HTTP/SMTP...  without exposing too much relatedness
due to using the same exit for all at once.

Thanks for any consideration of this where merited.
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Re: Tor & Email?

2011-01-06 Thread grarpamp
Wish mail could multiply thread replies. Here are combined thoughts
on the related 'Tor & Email?' and 'Tor and google groups' threads...


>> Maybe you should start up a gmail activation service! Or at least for
>> us here in the group!

How many accounts will gmail and the other online entities allow
under one number? Do they crosscheck country/region to number and
are you willing to risk loss of every underlying account if so
or for other 'related link' reasons.

Given that, how many of you would be willing to drop cash in the
mail to provide anon support for the fractional cost of the phone/SIM?

The only real issue is the cost, oversubscription rate and account
linking. Not the anonymity of the physical mobile SIM holder.

>> able to enter the account and ...

Amongst anons there would surely be some honor in this.



>> Though I could open an account at gmail (with SMS)
>> Belarus and an Azeri exit node and SMS verification was required
>> tried to creat gmail-accounts with Netherlands and German exits

In general, when you all are testing whatever service it might be,
and especially since you are already picking the node, please be
sure to state the node fingerprint so others can confirm. Particularly
upon success.

Andrew, I recall you said you were recently (the only one of two
of us) able to create a Gmail account via Tor but did not know your
exit. Do you remember whether or not you supplied a 'secondary'
email address to them? And what domain/service it was?

People should mention the fingerprint and use of any such mail
domain/service when testing. As in my tests of 2010/12/29.

As well as whether they used the 'broken' .exit notation or MAPADDRESS,
what was MAPADDRESS'ed, etc.

> I then tried again with a German exit, and had no problems.

Jon, really? Do you recall the fingerprint and any recovery domain?
And no captcha seems very strange.
And Germany would give you @googlemail, not @gmail right?



>> I am using Privoxy

Privoxy alters a whole bunch more stuff than polipo. I can see where
it would cause undue problems. I do ad blocking with MAPADDRESS so
polipo is fine.



>> As explained to me in Belgium, the law says they have to see an ID

Many laws and policies say only to check, not record or some other
such scheme. Many folks feel the need to go above and beyond what
is written even though it serves them no particular benefit and
adds to their cost, and in fact risk, of doing business.

Bad will be bad, good will be good. That's why many have no problem
with anonymity, because it doesn't affect that regard. Anti-anons
seem to be really about profiling for profiling's sake, or slowing
the normal course of historical change so that they may continue
to reap the current state before naturally dying of old age.
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Re: Home Internet with Anonymity Built In

2011-01-06 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:55:32 +0800
Trystero Lot  wrote:

> will this work with linksys ata specially 3102?

We're just adding a correct tor configuration to openwrt.  If openwrt
supports your device, then our tor mods should as well.

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Re: Home Internet with Anonymity Built In

2011-01-06 Thread Trystero Lot
will this work with linksys ata specially 3102?

On 1/7/11, Moritz Bartl  wrote:
> On 06.01.2011 16:43, Trystero Lot wrote:
>> "The software will also be made
>> available for people to install on routers they have bought themselves,
>> Appelbaum says."
>>
>> hopefully this version will work specially with ATA specially the ones
>> with builtin routers.
>
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/Torouter
>
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Re: Double log entries?

2011-01-06 Thread Geoff Down


On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:05 -0500, "Nick Mathewson" 
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Geoff Down 
> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > Happy New Year.
> >  I have double entries, including the timestamp, in my Notice-level Tor
> >  logs. I think it started when I sent a SIGHUP. lsof shows two Write
> >  file descriptors fwiw. This is Tor 0.2.2.15-alpha OSX PPC, Vidalia is
> >  not running.
> > Any ideas?
> 
> Really dumb question: is it possible that you the log configured twice
> in your torrc?
> 
> -- 
> Nick

 Seems a pretty sensible question to me. The log command is duplicated
 in the torrc and in the command starting Tor, as are a couple of other
 options. I'll remove the duplicates.
GD

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Re: Home Internet with Anonymity Built In

2011-01-06 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 06.01.2011 16:43, Trystero Lot wrote:
> "The software will also be made
> available for people to install on routers they have bought themselves,
> Appelbaum says."
> 
> hopefully this version will work specially with ATA specially the ones
> with builtin routers.

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/Torouter

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Re: Double log entries?

2011-01-06 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Geoff Down  wrote:
> Hi All,
> Happy New Year.
>  I have double entries, including the timestamp, in my Notice-level Tor
>  logs. I think it started when I sent a SIGHUP. lsof shows two Write
>  file descriptors fwiw. This is Tor 0.2.2.15-alpha OSX PPC, Vidalia is
>  not running.
> Any ideas?

Really dumb question: is it possible that you the log configured twice
in your torrc?

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Re: Home Internet with Anonymity Built In

2011-01-06 Thread Trystero Lot
"The software will also be made
available for people to install on routers they have bought themselves,
Appelbaum says."

hopefully this version will work specially with ATA specially the ones
with builtin routers.
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Re: Tor-BlackBelt Privacy

2011-01-06 Thread Robert Ransom
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:04:23 +0100
"Karsten N."  wrote:

> sorry, I forgott to send the torrc file. I leave out the values for
> Vidalia an post only the specific Black Belt Privacy values:
> 
> CircuitBuildTimeout 10
> NumEntryGuards 10

These two lines might make Tor slightly faster, but will put far more
load on the Tor network.  The NumEntryGuards line will also make the
client more vulnerable to certain anonymity-set-reducing attacks.

> ConstrainedSockSize 256 KB
> ExcludeNodes IL
> ExcludeExitNodes IL

Either 'Cav' is seriously afraid of some node named "IL", or he is
trying to protect his users from those $DEROGATORY_ADJECTIVE Jews and
didn't put in the curly braces needed to exclude all nodes in a
country.  (And didn't realize that Mossad can rent servers in other
countries.)


Robert Ransom


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RE: Tor-BlackBelt Privacy

2011-01-06 Thread Zaher F .

hello...


plz is Black Belt Privacy a software that will make tor faster???

and how i can get that software


thx

> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:04:23 +0100
> From: tor-ad...@privacyfoundation.de
> To: or-talk@freehaven.net
> Subject: Re: Tor-BlackBelt Privacy
> 
> Am 05.01.2011 00:03, schrieb and...@torproject.org:
> > It's been around for a few years, previously called "black belt tor" by
> > Cav Edwards.  We've had some interaction with Cav Edwards over the
> > years, but nothing substantial.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> sorry, I forgott to send the torrc file. I leave out the values for
> Vidalia an post only the specific Black Belt Privacy values:
> 
> CircuitBuildTimeout 10
> NumEntryGuards 10
> ConstrainedSockSize 256 KB
> ExcludeNodes IL
> ExcludeExitNodes IL
> 
> Thats all. I con not see any reason for more speed in this configuration.
> 
> Best regards
> Karsten N.
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Re: Tor-BlackBelt Privacy

2011-01-06 Thread Karsten N.
Am 05.01.2011 00:03, schrieb and...@torproject.org:
> It's been around for a few years, previously called "black belt tor" by
> Cav Edwards.  We've had some interaction with Cav Edwards over the
> years, but nothing substantial.

Hi,

sorry, I forgott to send the torrc file. I leave out the values for
Vidalia an post only the specific Black Belt Privacy values:

CircuitBuildTimeout 10
NumEntryGuards 10
ConstrainedSockSize 256 KB
ExcludeNodes IL
ExcludeExitNodes IL

Thats all. I con not see any reason for more speed in this configuration.

Best regards
Karsten N.
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