Hetzner
Hi there, this morning I got a call from my hosting provider Hetzner (in Germany) and had a nice conversation with a guy who is handling the abuse mails. He wondered what was running on those 12 servers (that's a number he told me) which receive ~1 copyright-infringement mail per day. He just wanted to warn me (and I want to warn you ;-) about the fact that he wants to tell the management about the "problems" of these servers (high traffic, maybe bad image for the company); he says it'd be possible that Hetzner will forbid the use of TOR nodes by their policy. He also asked for an in-depth explanation of TOR, which I just sent him. I tried to explain that his company's image could benefit from just acting for freedom of speech and against censorship (by not stopping TOR nodes). Hopefully that'll be heard. It's not that important yet as there are other providers out there, but that could start a trend, especially when put under pressure by the German government. Greetings, Sören
Re: Hetzner
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Hannah Schroeter wrote: >>he says it'd be possible that Hetzner will forbid the use of TOR nodes by >>their policy. > > Did he mean any kind tor nodes or tor exits? I don't think that he had the knowledge about the differences of nodes. As far as he told me, he just contacted those people with a high amount of copyright infringements - so only exit nodes are the real problem for him. >>I tried to explain that his company's image could benefit from >>just acting for freedom of speech and against censorship (by not >>stopping TOR nodes). Hopefully that'll be heard. > > Hope so too. Perhaps also tell him about the role of tor in the recent > uprises in the Iran. Thanks for that suggestion! I'll try to get this pointed out in the conversation. Greetings, Sören
Re: Hetzner
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Fabian Keil wrote: > Alleged copyright infringements. Yes, of course. He stated that he doesn't believe that these mails are caused by the owners of the servers. Rather he thinks that Hetzner could lose its face in some way. Additionally these mails are semi-automatically processed, so they have to invest manpower to get them forwarded (I'd be happy if they would just throw them away. Same effect).
