Re: Excessive scrubs
> And some would consider phony names used in email to show > lack of courage of convictions when voicing opinions in public Throughout history, some of the world's most important movements and changes have originated with the Anonymous. Anonymity is a tool whose use case is rightly selected solely by the user, not others. As are defenses against it the purview of the latter. Neither free to trample the other across the divide. It's a beautiful thing. During such selection, certainly some would consider system nodes run by those who speak against such anonymity (in whichever the case) as fine candidates for their excludes... lest they become unreliable partners (in whichever the heat, or the whim). Then again, how does one select any particular partner from the space, be it node or human? Which assertions are true? Which shall stand? And what value to assign the many silent ones? Most curious questions indeed. Therefore, rest. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: OT: Etiquette (was Re: Excessive scrubs)
This is way off topic, please take it off the list. Thanks. -- Andrew pgp key: 31B0974B *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
OT: Etiquette (was Re: Excessive scrubs)
Hi! On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 03:04:16AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > I think what he was referring to was the fact that I do not use a mail >interface that supports the use of optional headers for threaded reading of >mail by subject similar to the way threaded USENET newsreaders do it. While "References" for mail is rather new and very optional, "In-Reply-To" is standardized in RFC822, i.e. very old already, and if your mail reader program set it, it'd be enough for most thread displays. If you're not the administrator of the box, you can still ask the administrator of the box to fix at least the generation of "In-Reply-To". >[...] >>Respectfully Scott, some would consider your signature / long quote, w/ >>multiple rows of asterisks & dashes a bit excessive. Doesn't bother me >>particularly, but would some. >[...] > Many people also would consider my .signature not to be excessive, >and there are many whose .signature blocks are far larger than mine, some >so much so that I would also be inclined to object if the owner were a >frequent poster. FWIW, mine has gone through many changes over the years, >but I like the way it is at present. If I run across another quotation that >I happen to like better, I may replace it. For mailing list use, I normally >omit the postal address lines anyway as below. One most important thing could possibly be to separate it using the "-- " convention. Then at least a few mail reader programs would offer the option to hide it/grey it out and to hide it from the quotes in replies. Kind regards, Hannah. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:11:25 -0500 Joe Btfsplk wrote: > So I won't make same 'mistakes' as Jon, please explain what you mean by: >> please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting >[Isn't top posting the way most forums work? I'm guessing protocol is >diff because it's a mailing list?? I haven't used mailing lists that >much.] Nope. I've never seen any non-tor-related lists where so many people top-post. On most lists to which I have ever subscribed, other subscribers firmly object to top-posting when it appears on those lists. Also, feel free to visit http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost > >and, >> please learn to list-reply, i.e. stop breaking threads >What is meant by "list-reply" vs "stop breaking threads"? Aren't they 2 >diff things? This is something I've answered many times on this list already, but I will answer it this one final time. After this, anyone who gives a dam can bloody well look up an instance of my explanation in the list archives. I think what he was referring to was the fact that I do not use a mail interface that supports the use of optional headers for threaded reading of mail by subject similar to the way threaded USENET newsreaders do it. My explanation in this case is in two parts: 1) regardless of the condition of other subscribers to mailing lists, my eyeballs and brain work just fine, so I have no trouble following the flow in the lists, including list digests, which are what I receive for most of my list subscriptions outside of the tor-related lists, especially for lists that are such low-volume lists as the tor-related lists tend to be, and 2) it's out of my control anyway because I not only am not the system administrator on this system, I have merely a guest account for the primary purpose of dealing with email, so I can't install mail software to suit the tastes of other people on the lists to which I subscribe. > >Respectfully Scott, some would consider your signature / long quote, w/ >multiple rows of asterisks & dashes a bit excessive. Doesn't bother me >particularly, but would some. > And some would consider phony names used in email to show lack of courage of convictions when voicing opinions in public, although I do recognize that there are some life-threatening situations where such practices may be necessary to reduce/eliminate the risk and the lack of courage is therefore forgivable. I don't know your situation, and perhaps you are exposed to such dangers, so I cannot comment upon the particular case of your use of a seemingly phony name, nor do I let such usage bother me as a rule either. Many people also would consider my .signature not to be excessive, and there are many whose .signature blocks are far larger than mine, some so much so that I would also be inclined to object if the owner were a frequent poster. FWIW, mine has gone through many changes over the years, but I like the way it is at present. If I run across another quotation that I happen to like better, I may replace it. For mailing list use, I normally omit the postal address lines anyway as below. Although I didn't respond directly to Jon's reply, I'd like to thank him for his update and its reassurance. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
So I won't make same 'mistakes' as Jon, please explain what you mean by: please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting [Isn't top posting the way most forums work? I'm guessing protocol is diff because it's a mailing list?? I haven't used mailing lists that much.] and, please learn to list-reply, i.e. stop breaking threads What is meant by "list-reply" vs "stop breaking threads"? Aren't they 2 diff things? Respectfully Scott, some would consider your signature / long quote, w/ multiple rows of asterisks & dashes a bit excessive. Doesn't bother me particularly, but would some. On 10/19/2010 4:46 PM, sigi wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 04:16:08PM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: [massive top-posting sequence *deleted* --SB] Two requests: 1) please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting please learn to list-reply, i.e. stop breaking threads *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 04:16:08PM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > > [massive top-posting sequence *deleted* --SB] > Two requests: > 1) please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting please learn to list-reply, i.e. stop breaking threads *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:29:04 -0500 Jon wrote: >Thanks, followup it is running properly now. I did an upgrade to >Vidalia only and it resolved the issue. There have been no more >scrubs. > [massive top-posting sequence *deleted* --SB] Two requests: 1) please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting 2) if you plan to continue to run a relay with SafeLogging 0 in its torrc, please post the identifier fingerprint of the relay, so the rest of us can all add it to our ExcludeNodes lists. SafeLogging 0 is a security violation that is only intended for debugging a problem, not for normal use. Read the documentation about it. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
Justin, Thanks, followup it is running properly now. I did an upgrade to Vidalia only and it resolved the issue. There have been no more scrubs. Jon On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin wrote: > On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote: > >> Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry. > > This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this? AFAIK > (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the torrc after > initialization. > >> I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops >> message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not >> removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I >> checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it. > > Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at > least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't > aware of. Personally I think there should be a "Confirm before modifying > torrc" checkbox in Vidalia. > >> >> I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still >> show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the ' >> SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a >> minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address >> that is being scrubbed. > > Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both, > and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know. > > ~Justin Aplin > > >> >> OS is WIndows >> >> Jon >> >> >>> What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was >>> there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something >>> else entirely? >>> >>> Also, which operating system are you using? >> >> >> - >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500 >>> Jon wrote: >>> I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his solution was: Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by the domain in question. SafeLogging 0 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to remove it self at some point. As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I placed it before it got removed. Jon On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon wrote: > > I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual > amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being > scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It > does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs. > > Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put > in its place? > > Thanks, > > Jon > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >>> >>> What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was >>> there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something >>> else entirely? >>> >>> Also, which operating system are you using? >>> >>> -- >>> more than just a leitmotif >>> PGP Key ID: 33E22AB1 >>> >> *** >> To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with >> unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >> > > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
TorOp Thanks, I did upgrade Vidalia separately. It appears that it was upgraded, but Tor has not been yet. Tho I believe it will be shortly. However, it did resolve the issue. Jon On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:39 PM, TorOp wrote: > Upgrade Vidalia to 0.2.10 and the problem will go away. > > On 10/14/2010 6:20 PM, Jon wrote: >> >> Justin, >> >> The first of the scrubs have now showed for the past 4 hrs. Once an >> hour. It is now showing the address and it is the same address. It is >> a ' geoips vidalia ' address ( am not showing complete addy ). >> Apparently for some reason it is not resolving or connecting to >> address. I did attempt to try directly, with a couple of different >> ways and was not able to access the site. >> >> If you want the complete address, I will put in later. >> >> Will see if it is the only one that shows up over the next 12 hrs. >> >> Jon >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote: >>> >> >>> I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it. >>> >>> Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at >>> least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't >>> aware of. Personally I think there should be a "Confirm before modifying >>> torrc" checkbox in Vidalia. >>> I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the ' SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address that is being scrubbed. >>> >>> Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting >>> both, >>> and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us >>> know. >>> >>> ~Justin Aplin >>> > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
Upgrade Vidalia to 0.2.10 and the problem will go away. On 10/14/2010 6:20 PM, Jon wrote: Justin, The first of the scrubs have now showed for the past 4 hrs. Once an hour. It is now showing the address and it is the same address. It is a ' geoips vidalia ' address ( am not showing complete addy ). Apparently for some reason it is not resolving or connecting to address. I did attempt to try directly, with a couple of different ways and was not able to access the site. If you want the complete address, I will put in later. Will see if it is the only one that shows up over the next 12 hrs. Jon On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin wrote: On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote: I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it. Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't aware of. Personally I think there should be a "Confirm before modifying torrc" checkbox in Vidalia. I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the ' SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address that is being scrubbed. Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both, and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know. ~Justin Aplin *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
Justin, The first of the scrubs have now showed for the past 4 hrs. Once an hour. It is now showing the address and it is the same address. It is a ' geoips vidalia ' address ( am not showing complete addy ). Apparently for some reason it is not resolving or connecting to address. I did attempt to try directly, with a couple of different ways and was not able to access the site. If you want the complete address, I will put in later. Will see if it is the only one that shows up over the next 12 hrs. Jon On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin wrote: > On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote: > > >> I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops >> message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not >> removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I >> checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it. > > Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at > least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't > aware of. Personally I think there should be a "Confirm before modifying > torrc" checkbox in Vidalia. > >> >> I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still >> show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the ' >> SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a >> minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address >> that is being scrubbed. > > Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both, > and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know. > > ~Justin Aplin > > >> >> OS is WIndows >> >> Jon >> >> >>> What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was >>> there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something >>> else entirely? >>> >>> Also, which operating system are you using? >> >> >> - >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500 >>> Jon wrote: >>> I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his solution was: Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by the domain in question. SafeLogging 0 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to remove it self at some point. As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I placed it before it got removed. Jon On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon wrote: > > I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual > amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being > scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It > does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs. > > Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put > in its place? > > Thanks, > > Jon > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >>> >>> What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was >>> there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something >>> else entirely? >>> >>> Also, which operating system are you using? >>> >>> -- >>> more than just a leitmotif >>> PGP Key ID: 33E22AB1 >>> >> *** >> To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with >> unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >> > > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
Justin, Ok, I just checked the torrc file and my last entry was still there. I just updated the OS and rebooted and rechecked the file and nothing has been removed. Will see now on the new logs if it changes or if it still shows ' scrubbed ' . I will let you know within 24hrs either way. Jon On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin wrote: > On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote: > >> Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry. > > This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this? AFAIK > (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the torrc after > initialization. > >> I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops >> message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not >> removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I >> checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it. > > Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at > least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't > aware of. Personally I think there should be a "Confirm before modifying > torrc" checkbox in Vidalia. > >> >> I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still >> show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the ' >> SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a >> minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address >> that is being scrubbed. > > Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both, > and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know. > > ~Justin Aplin > > >> >> OS is WIndows >> >> Jon >> >> >>> What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was >>> there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something >>> else entirely? >>> >>> Also, which operating system are you using? >> >> >> - >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500 >>> Jon wrote: >>> I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his solution was: Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by the domain in question. SafeLogging 0 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to remove it self at some point. As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I placed it before it got removed. Jon On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon wrote: > > I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual > amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being > scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It > does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs. > > Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put > in its place? > > Thanks, > > Jon > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >>> >>> What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was >>> there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something >>> else entirely? >>> >>> Also, which operating system are you using? >>> >>> -- >>> more than just a leitmotif >>> PGP Key ID: 33E22AB1 >>> >> *** >> To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with >> unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >> > > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
Ok, I just checked the torrc file and my last entry was still there. I updated the OS and rebooted and rechecked the file and nothing has been removed. Will see now on the new logs if it changes or if it still shows ' scrubbed ' Jon On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin wrote: > On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote: > >> Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry. > > This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this? AFAIK > (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the torrc after > initialization. > >> I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops >> message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not >> removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I >> checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it. > > Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at > least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't > aware of. Personally I think there should be a "Confirm before modifying > torrc" checkbox in Vidalia. > >> >> I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still >> show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the ' >> SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a >> minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address >> that is being scrubbed. > > Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both, > and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know. > > ~Justin Aplin > > >> >> OS is WIndows >> >> Jon >> >> >>> What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was >>> there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something >>> else entirely? >>> >>> Also, which operating system are you using? >> >> >> - >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500 >>> Jon wrote: >>> I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his solution was: Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by the domain in question. SafeLogging 0 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to remove it self at some point. As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I placed it before it got removed. Jon On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon wrote: > > I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual > amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being > scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It > does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs. > > Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put > in its place? > > Thanks, > > Jon > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >>> >>> What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was >>> there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something >>> else entirely? >>> >>> Also, which operating system are you using? >>> >>> -- >>> more than just a leitmotif >>> PGP Key ID: 33E22AB1 >>> >> *** >> To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with >> unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >> > > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote: Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry. This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this? AFAIK (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the torrc after initialization. I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it. Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't aware of. Personally I think there should be a "Confirm before modifying torrc" checkbox in Vidalia. I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the ' SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address that is being scrubbed. Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both, and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know. ~Justin Aplin OS is WIndows Jon What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something else entirely? Also, which operating system are you using? - On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500 Jon wrote: I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his solution was: Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by the domain in question. SafeLogging 0 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to remove it self at some point. As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I placed it before it got removed. Jon On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon wrote: I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs. Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put in its place? Thanks, Jon *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/ talk/ What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something else entirely? Also, which operating system are you using? -- more than just a leitmotif PGP Key ID: 33E22AB1 *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry. I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it. I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the ' SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address that is being scrubbed. OS is WIndows Jon > What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was > there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something > else entirely? > > Also, which operating system are you using? - On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500 > Jon wrote: > >> I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his >> solution was: >> >> Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by >> the domain in question. >> >> SafeLogging 0 >> >> of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to >> remove it self at some point. >> >> As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I >> placed it before it got removed. >> >> Jon >> >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon wrote: >> > I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual >> > amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being >> > scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It >> > does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs. >> > >> > Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put >> > in its place? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Jon >> > >> *** >> To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with >> unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > > What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was > there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something > else entirely? > > Also, which operating system are you using? > > -- > more than just a leitmotif > PGP Key ID: 33E22AB1 > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Excessive scrubs
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500 Jon wrote: > I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his > solution was: > > Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by > the domain in question. > > SafeLogging 0 > > of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to > remove it self at some point. > > As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I > placed it before it got removed. > > Jon > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon wrote: > > I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual > > amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being > > scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It > > does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs. > > > > Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put > > in its place? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon > > > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something else entirely? Also, which operating system are you using? -- more than just a leitmotif PGP Key ID: 33E22AB1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Excessive scrubs
I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his solution was: Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by the domain in question. SafeLogging 0 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to remove it self at some point. As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I placed it before it got removed. Jon On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon wrote: > I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual > amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being > scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It > does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs. > > Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put in > its place? > > Thanks, > > Jon > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Excessive scrubs
I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs. Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put in its place? Thanks, Jon *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/