Re: Geoip information

2009-02-18 Thread coderman
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:36 AM, downie -  wrote:
>...
> There was a geoip-cache file from November, which I guess is the last time
> it worked.
> I renamed that in case it was corrupted. A new one hasn't been created, I
> don't think.

the behavior you describe is exactly as if whatever Vidalia's thinks
is the data directory does not exist.  this could be file system
corruption, an accidental deletion, permissions.  the best suggestion
is to reinstall, so that the installer creates and populates the
Vidalia data directories correctly.  debug level logging should point
out the cause, but you may have to dig for it among all the other
verbosity.

best regards,


RE: Geoip information

2009-02-18 Thread downie -




> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:17:03 -0800
> Subject: Re: Geoip information
> From: coder...@gmail.com
> To: or-talk@freehaven.net
> 

> > ... start Tor from Vidalia, and watch the Connection
> > box in the Network Map, I see a connection opened to
> > geoip.vidalia-project.net:1443 , then closed,
> 
> good! did you see it actually CONNECT ok before closing? or was the
> close a "gave up" or "no exit available" close?
> (may have to watch closely)

It said Connecting  then Open for about 2 seconds... then Closed.

> depending on how out of date your cached information is, there may be
> hundreds and hundreds of IP's to get info for.  while the request to
> the geoip service does try to ask about many IPs at a time, it will
> still break a huge amount into reasonable chunks, and thus multiple
> GOOD responses are needed to successfully connected requests for some
> router details to get geo coordinates.

There was a geoip-cache file from November, which I guess is the last time it 
worked.
I renamed that in case it was corrupted. A new one hasn't been created, I don't 
think.

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Re: Geoip information

2009-02-17 Thread coderman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM, downie -  wrote:
> ...
> Hmm,
> If I set logging to Info,

try debug, i should have mentioned this before.  it will be
exceptionally noisy though :/


> ... start Tor from Vidalia, and watch the Connection
> box in the Network Map, I see a connection opened to
> geoip.vidalia-project.net:1443 , then closed,

good! did you see it actually CONNECT ok before closing? or was the
close a "gave up" or "no exit available" close?
(may have to watch closely)


> but no Geographic data comes
> up on the map or the list of relays - no flags, no routemap
> of my connection.

depending on how out of date your cached information is, there may be
hundreds and hundreds of IP's to get info for.  while the request to
the geoip service does try to ask about many IPs at a time, it will
still break a huge amount into reasonable chunks, and thus multiple
GOOD responses are needed to successfully connected requests for some
router details to get geo coordinates.


> There is also no mention of GeoIP in the log.
> Are we talking about different things here? How does all the geographic
> information
> get uploaded into Vidalia?

we should be talking about the same thing.


RE: Geoip information

2009-02-17 Thread downie -

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:03:02 -0800
> Subject: Re: Geoip information
> From: coder...@gmail.com
> To: or-talk@freehaven.net
> CC: or-t...@seul.org
> 
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM, downie -  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Vidalia has not been showing any geographic data for me for a couple of
> > months now
> 
> the service works, you can verify yourself by making a request to
> https://geoip.vidalia-project.net:1443/cgi-bin/geoip
> 
> one thing i have seen is that because this is using port 1443 it can
> be hit or miss to find a decent exit for requesting all of the desired
> information.  your vidalia log should indicate what is going on in
> more detail.
> 
> best regards,

Hmm,
If I set logging to Info, start Tor from Vidalia, and watch the Connection box 
in the Network Map, I see a connection opened to geoip.vidalia-project.net:1443 
, then closed, but no Geographic data comes up on the map or the list of relays 
- no flags, no routemap
of my connection.
There is also no mention of GeoIP in the log.
Are we talking about different things here? How does all the geographic 
information
get uploaded into Vidalia?

Thanks,
GD

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Re: Geoip information

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:03:02 -0800 coderman 
wrote:
>To: or-talk@freehaven.net
>Cc: or-t...@seul.org

 No need to double-post, coderman. :-)
>
>On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM, downie -  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Vidalia has not been showing any geographic data for me for a couple of
>> months now
>
>the service works, you can verify yourself by making a request to
>https://geoip.vidalia-project.net:1443/cgi-bin/geoip
>
>one thing i have seen is that because this is using port 1443 it can
>be hit or miss to find a decent exit for requesting all of the desired
>information.  your vidalia log should indicate what is going on in
>more detail.
>
 Thanks for point that out on the list.  Everything accepted in my
exit policy is listed in /etc/services as modified to conform to the official
list of allocated TCP ports, except for a few tor-related ports (reject *:9051,
accept *:9001, accept *:9030), and I wasn't aware that the geoip project had
appropriated a port for its own use.  I've now added

ExitPolicy accept 128.213.48.13:1443

to my torrc, and it has just now been published.


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Re: Geoip information

2009-02-16 Thread coderman
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM, downie -  wrote:
> Hi,
> Vidalia has not been showing any geographic data for me for a couple of
> months now

the service works, you can verify yourself by making a request to
https://geoip.vidalia-project.net:1443/cgi-bin/geoip

one thing i have seen is that because this is using port 1443 it can
be hit or miss to find a decent exit for requesting all of the desired
information.  your vidalia log should indicate what is going on in
more detail.

best regards,


Geoip information

2009-02-16 Thread downie -

Hi,
Vidalia has not been showing any geographic data for me for a couple of months 
now
(OSX10.3.9 Tor 0.2.0.34 Vidalia 0.1.10). Last time I asked it was a server 
problem.
Is this still the case? If it's a bug/config issue I will submit a Flyspray 
ticket.

GD

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