Re: JanusPA - A hardware Privacy Adapter using Tor
Hi Kyle, What about the RB433 or RB433AH which are 300MHz / 64MB / $100 and 680MHz / 128MB / $??? boards? (See http://routerboard.com). I know the extra ports are overkill, but they might handle a better load. Isn't memory also an issue? My problem running a tor client on the Linksys wrt54g was memory ( BCM4710 / 16MB ). --Tony Basile http://opensource.dyc.edu Kyle Williams wrote: Hi John, Yeah, the 133MHz CPU just isn't going to be fast enough for my needs, plus the extra ports is a bit over kill for this specific application. I know the gumstix is a higher price, but it is exactly what I needed. Thanks for the feedback though. All this neat hardware that people are sharing is giving me ideas for future projects. - Kyle On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.comwrote: Hi: What about the Soekris boards? The lowest end board, net4501, with a case is $173 USD. https://www.soekris.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=75 133 Mhz CPU, 64 Mbyte SDRAM, 3 Ethernet, 2 Serial, CF socket, 1 Mini-PCI socket, 3.3V PCI connector. The low processor speed may hinder encryption, but other than that, it looks like it would make a pretty good replacement for Gumstix. Probably not as small, though. It might be nice to note that these boards have been in production for a pretty long time and continue to be so. Also some firmwares like DD-WRT support this hardware. Cheers, Jon On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Kyle Williams kyle.kwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I've been working on a project for a couple of months now that I'm sure would be of interest to some of you. The goal was to apply the same transparent model coderman and I used with JanusVM and Tor VM into hardware. I wanted something small that you could connect, power on, and use. Literally plug-n-privacy. After several weeks of searching the web looking at different hardware configuration, specs, etc, etc, I decided to go with Gumstix(.com). The privacy adapter is a ARM 400MHz Xscale CPU with 64MB RAM (@100MHz), 16MB of Flash memory for storage, and *TWO* 10/100 NICs. It uses Linux for the OS. The first thought that many people get, including myself, have is that it is not powerful enough to run Tor. Well, after 2 months of breaking this in, I'm very happy with the results. I ran this as a Tor server for about 4 days, and got a good baseline for how much data it can handle. As a Tor server, it was pushing about 250KB/sec (125KB in, 125 KB out). As a Tor client, the best speed test I got was about 1.2MB/sec. BTW, that was after about 45 minutes of SIGNAL NEWNYM and speedtest before I found a fast circuit. Here's the URL for what I've got so far. http://www.janusvm.com/goldy/JanusPA/index.html It is lacking all forms of documentation, and the source code needs to be cleaned up some. It does have a general description, the index of the soon to come documentation, openssl speed test benchmarks, pictures, and stats of when I tested it as a Tor server. After about two months of using it, I've never felt more secure and satisfied when using Tor. This is a hardware router that routes your traffic through the Tor network, it's small, and is easy to use. As for security, all TCP and DNS are routed through Tor, and everything else is dropped. So all the nasty side-channel attacks that us hackers have been working on to leak your real IP address are rendered useless. But there is good news and bad news. The bad news: The manufacture (Gumstix.com) is Phasing Out this particular setup at the end of DECEMBER 2008!! That's in 10 days! Any orders after Dec. 31, 2008 will have to be in bulk orders, which is 120 or more units. Shitty. Because of the short amount of time left to get this hardware, I've jumped the gun and chosen to notify the Tor community about this hardware before it is gone or out of a practical price range for most of us. The good news: I've been in communication with a very nice gentleman at gumstix who said Gumstix is also working on a netDUO expansion board for Overo, although a release date has not been announced. There is reasonable hope that there new motherboad product line (the Overo) will at some point have a dual NIC expansion board. So this is somewhat a conflicting situation. I've spent months working on this awesome anonymity adpater, and it's about to be discontinued without knowing an exact date as to when the new line with have the capabilities to do what needs to be done. ugh. I'm very much looking forward to their new product line when a dual NIC expansion board is available, but I don't know
Re: JanusPA - A hardware Privacy Adapter using Tor
Hi Dante, 680MHz and 128MB of RAM would work just fine for the application this was intended for.Thanks for the feedback! - Kyle On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:46 AM, dante da...@virtualblueness.net wrote: Hi Kyle, What about the RB433 or RB433AH which are 300MHz / 64MB / $100 and 680MHz / 128MB / $??? boards? (See http://routerboard.com). I know the extra ports are overkill, but they might handle a better load. Isn't memory also an issue? My problem running a tor client on the Linksys wrt54g was memory ( BCM4710 / 16MB ). --Tony Basile http://opensource.dyc.edu Kyle Williams wrote: Hi John, Yeah, the 133MHz CPU just isn't going to be fast enough for my needs, plus the extra ports is a bit over kill for this specific application. I know the gumstix is a higher price, but it is exactly what I needed. Thanks for the feedback though. All this neat hardware that people are sharing is giving me ideas for future projects. - Kyle On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: What about the Soekris boards? The lowest end board, net4501, with a case is $173 USD. https://www.soekris.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=75 133 Mhz CPU, 64 Mbyte SDRAM, 3 Ethernet, 2 Serial, CF socket, 1 Mini-PCI socket, 3.3V PCI connector. The low processor speed may hinder encryption, but other than that, it looks like it would make a pretty good replacement for Gumstix. Probably not as small, though. It might be nice to note that these boards have been in production for a pretty long time and continue to be so. Also some firmwares like DD-WRT support this hardware. Cheers, Jon On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Kyle Williams kyle.kwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I've been working on a project for a couple of months now that I'm sure would be of interest to some of you. The goal was to apply the same transparent model coderman and I used with JanusVM and Tor VM into hardware. I wanted something small that you could connect, power on, and use. Literally plug-n-privacy. After several weeks of searching the web looking at different hardware configuration, specs, etc, etc, I decided to go with Gumstix(.com). The privacy adapter is a ARM 400MHz Xscale CPU with 64MB RAM (@100MHz), 16MB of Flash memory for storage, and *TWO* 10/100 NICs. It uses Linux for the OS. The first thought that many people get, including myself, have is that it is not powerful enough to run Tor. Well, after 2 months of breaking this in, I'm very happy with the results. I ran this as a Tor server for about 4 days, and got a good baseline for how much data it can handle. As a Tor server, it was pushing about 250KB/sec (125KB in, 125 KB out). As a Tor client, the best speed test I got was about 1.2MB/sec. BTW, that was after about 45 minutes of SIGNAL NEWNYM and speedtest before I found a fast circuit. Here's the URL for what I've got so far. http://www.janusvm.com/goldy/JanusPA/index.html It is lacking all forms of documentation, and the source code needs to be cleaned up some. It does have a general description, the index of the soon to come documentation, openssl speed test benchmarks, pictures, and stats of when I tested it as a Tor server. After about two months of using it, I've never felt more secure and satisfied when using Tor. This is a hardware router that routes your traffic through the Tor network, it's small, and is easy to use. As for security, all TCP and DNS are routed through Tor, and everything else is dropped. So all the nasty side-channel attacks that us hackers have been working on to leak your real IP address are rendered useless. But there is good news and bad news. The bad news: The manufacture (Gumstix.com) is Phasing Out this particular setup at the end of DECEMBER 2008!! That's in 10 days! Any orders after Dec. 31, 2008 will have to be in bulk orders, which is 120 or more units. Shitty. Because of the short amount of time left to get this hardware, I've jumped the gun and chosen to notify the Tor community about this hardware before it is gone or out of a practical price range for most of us. The good news: I've been in communication with a very nice gentleman at gumstix who said Gumstix is also working on a netDUO expansion board for Overo, although a release date has not been announced. There is reasonable hope that there new motherboad product line (the Overo) will at some point have a dual NIC expansion board. So this is somewhat a conflicting situation. I've spent months working on this awesome anonymity adpater, and it's about to be discontinued without knowing an exact date as to when the new line with have the capabilities to do what needs to be done.
Re: JanusPA - A hardware Privacy Adapter using Tor
Nice solution! Im looking forward docs, how to run systemTor on this type of hardware. Marek
Re: JanusPA - A hardware Privacy Adapter using Tor
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 05:14:42AM -0800, Kyle Williams wrote: Hello Everyone, [great stuff snipped] This will run you $32.00 USD. If anyone is seriously thinking about a good hardware based solution for Tor, I'd buy the gumstix now. In fact, I just bought a couple more just in case mine breaks. I'll have the source code up withing a week, two tops The FULL documentation will take about a bit longer to get done. Well, that's about it. Feedback is welcome. In terms of a more long-lived hardware base, have you considered ALIX? http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm They might not be as small as Gumstix, but fairly small at 6x6. I've ordered an alix2d3 + case + DC adapter for ~100 EUR sans VAT the other day. A SLC CF goes a long time with these, if mounted noatime. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
Re: JanusPA - A hardware Privacy Adapter using Tor
You guys made Hackaday.com, Sorry if someone else already posted this. Denis On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Kyle Williams kyle.kwilli...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 05:14:42AM -0800, Kyle Williams wrote: Hello Everyone, [great stuff snipped] This will run you $32.00 USD. If anyone is seriously thinking about a good hardware based solution for Tor, I'd buy the gumstix now. In fact, I just bought a couple more just in case mine breaks. I'll have the source code up withing a week, two tops The FULL documentation will take about a bit longer to get done. Well, that's about it. Feedback is welcome. In terms of a more long-lived hardware base, have you considered ALIX? http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm They might not be as small as Gumstix, but fairly small at 6x6. I've ordered an alix2d3 + case + DC adapter for ~100 EUR sans VAT the other day. A SLC CF goes a long time with these, if mounted noatime. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE Thanks Eugen! That board looks to be a little over kill, but a good price none the less. I like the SIM card slots and PCI Express w/ USB power. That would be perfect for WiMAX. M, WiMAX + Tor... :) I might have to get one of these just to play around with. The POE option is a plus. - Kyle -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC
JanusPA - A hardware Privacy Adapter using Tor
Hello Everyone, I've been working on a project for a couple of months now that I'm sure would be of interest to some of you. The goal was to apply the same transparent model coderman and I used with JanusVM and Tor VM into hardware. I wanted something small that you could connect, power on, and use. Literally plug-n-privacy. After several weeks of searching the web looking at different hardware configuration, specs, etc, etc, I decided to go with Gumstix(.com). The privacy adapter is a ARM 400MHz Xscale CPU with 64MB RAM (@100MHz), 16MB of Flash memory for storage, and *TWO* 10/100 NICs. It uses Linux for the OS. The first thought that many people get, including myself, have is that it is not powerful enough to run Tor. Well, after 2 months of breaking this in, I'm very happy with the results. I ran this as a Tor server for about 4 days, and got a good baseline for how much data it can handle. As a Tor server, it was pushing about 250KB/sec (125KB in, 125 KB out). As a Tor client, the best speed test I got was about 1.2MB/sec. BTW, that was after about 45 minutes of SIGNAL NEWNYM and speedtest before I found a fast circuit. Here's the URL for what I've got so far. http://www.janusvm.com/goldy/JanusPA/index.html It is lacking all forms of documentation, and the source code needs to be cleaned up some. It does have a general description, the index of the soon to come documentation, openssl speed test benchmarks, pictures, and stats of when I tested it as a Tor server. After about two months of using it, I've never felt more secure and satisfied when using Tor. This is a hardware router that routes your traffic through the Tor network, it's small, and is easy to use. As for security, all TCP and DNS are routed through Tor, and everything else is dropped. So all the nasty side-channel attacks that us hackers have been working on to leak your real IP address are rendered useless. But there is good news and bad news. The bad news: The manufacture (Gumstix.com) is Phasing Out this particular setup at the end of DECEMBER 2008!! That's in 10 days! Any orders after Dec. 31, 2008 will have to be in bulk orders, which is 120 or more units. Shitty. Because of the short amount of time left to get this hardware, I've jumped the gun and chosen to notify the Tor community about this hardware before it is gone or out of a practical price range for most of us. The good news: I've been in communication with a very nice gentleman at gumstix who said Gumstix is also working on a netDUO expansion board for Overo, although a release date has not been announced. There is reasonable hope that there new motherboad product line (the Overo) will at some point have a dual NIC expansion board. So this is somewhat a conflicting situation. I've spent months working on this awesome anonymity adpater, and it's about to be discontinued without knowing an exact date as to when the new line with have the capabilities to do what needs to be done. ugh. I'm very much looking forward to their new product line when a dual NIC expansion board is available, but I don't know when that'll be. If anyone is interested in this, but cannot afford to buy hardware at the moment, please contact Don Anderson (d...@gumstix.com)and encourage the idea of extending their phase out date or express and interest in a dual NIC expansion board for their new Overo product line. If anyone is interested in getting a hardware based Tor solution, you might want to consider buying a gumstix soon. You'll need the following. Connex 400mx Motherboard: http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27products_id=136 netDUO-mmc/SD expansion board: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31products_id=156 4.0v Power Adapter: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=148 Screws and spacer kit: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=161 This will run you $237.00 USD + shipping and handling. I would also *HIGHLY* recommend the following because flashing the device over the network is very, very risky and has resulted in me having to re-flash it through the serial port many, many times. Serial null-modem cable: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=85 Serial port connector: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31products_id=106 This will run you $32.00 USD. If anyone is seriously thinking about a good hardware based solution for Tor, I'd buy the gumstix now. In fact, I just bought a couple more just in case mine breaks. I'll have the source code up withing a week, two tops The FULL documentation will take about a bit longer to get done. Well, that's about it. Feedback is welcome. Best Regards, Kyle PS. Happy Holidays!
Re: JanusPA - A hardware Privacy Adapter using Tor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Kyle Williams wrote: Hello Everyone, I've been working on a project for a couple of months now that I'm sure would be of interest to some of you. The goal was to apply the same transparent model coderman and I used with JanusVM and Tor VM into hardware. I wanted something small that you could connect, power on, and use. Literally plug-n-privacy. After several weeks of searching the web looking at different hardware configuration, specs, etc, etc, I decided to go with Gumstix(.com). The privacy adapter is a ARM 400MHz Xscale CPU with 64MB RAM (@100MHz), 16MB of Flash memory for storage, and *TWO* 10/100 NICs. It uses Linux for the OS. The first thought that many people get, including myself, have is that it is not powerful enough to run Tor. Well, after 2 months of breaking this in, I'm very happy with the results. I ran this as a Tor server for about 4 days, and got a good baseline for how much data it can handle. As a Tor server, it was pushing about 250KB/sec (125KB in, 125 KB out). As a Tor client, the best speed test I got was about 1.2MB/sec. BTW, that was after about 45 minutes of SIGNAL NEWNYM and speedtest before I found a fast circuit. Here's the URL for what I've got so far. http://www.janusvm.com/goldy/JanusPA/index.html It is lacking all forms of documentation, and the source code needs to be cleaned up some. It does have a general description, the index of the soon to come documentation, openssl speed test benchmarks, pictures, and stats of when I tested it as a Tor server. After about two months of using it, I've never felt more secure and satisfied when using Tor. This is a hardware router that routes your traffic through the Tor network, it's small, and is easy to use. As for security, all TCP and DNS are routed through Tor, and everything else is dropped. So all the nasty side-channel attacks that us hackers have been working on to leak your real IP address are rendered useless. But there is good news and bad news. The bad news: The manufacture (Gumstix.com) is Phasing Out this particular setup at the end of DECEMBER 2008!! That's in 10 days! Any orders after Dec. 31, 2008 will have to be in bulk orders, which is 120 or more units. Shitty. Because of the short amount of time left to get this hardware, I've jumped the gun and chosen to notify the Tor community about this hardware before it is gone or out of a practical price range for most of us. The good news: I've been in communication with a very nice gentleman at gumstix who said Gumstix is also working on a netDUO expansion board for Overo, although a release date has not been announced. There is reasonable hope that there new motherboad product line (the Overo) will at some point have a dual NIC expansion board. So this is somewhat a conflicting situation. I've spent months working on this awesome anonymity adpater, and it's about to be discontinued without knowing an exact date as to when the new line with have the capabilities to do what needs to be done. ugh. I'm very much looking forward to their new product line when a dual NIC expansion board is available, but I don't know when that'll be. If anyone is interested in this, but cannot afford to buy hardware at the moment, please contact Don Anderson (d...@gumstix.com mailto:d...@gumstix.com)and encourage the idea of extending their phase out date or express and interest in a dual NIC expansion board for their new Overo product line. If anyone is interested in getting a hardware based Tor solution, you might want to consider buying a gumstix soon. You'll need the following. Connex 400mx Motherboard: http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27products_id=136 http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27products_id=136 netDUO-mmc/SD expansion board: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31products_id=156 http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31products_id=156 4.0v Power Adapter: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=148 http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=148 Screws and spacer kit: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=161 http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=161 This will run you $237.00 USD + shipping and handling. I would also *HIGHLY* recommend the following because flashing the device over the network is very, very risky and has resulted in me having to re-flash it through the serial port many, many times. Serial null-modem cable: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=85 http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=85 Serial port connector: http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31products_id=106
