Re: [OT]RE: Unsubscribe
Hi Roger! On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:34:19 -0400, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: I just hacked^Wconfigured majordomo to put a footer on every mail to the list. We'll see if it works. While you are at it maybe you can also fix something to eliminate duplicate mails in the list? Sometimes there are series of mails addressed like this: To: or-talk@freehaven.net Cc: or-t...@seul.org which go through the list twice. When subscribing everything talks about seul.org, e.g. majordomo is at seul.org and confirmation mail reads: Someone (possibly you) has requested that your email address be added to or deleted from the mailing list or-t...@seul.org. But then mails from the list contain: Reply-To: or-talk@freehaven.net Maybe just replace or-talk@freehaven.net by or-t...@seul.org here? Alexander Cherepanov *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
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grarpamp wrote: [...] they knew they had to find and use some special interface to subscribe. So why in the world would they think unsubscribing is any different having already learned the former. The thing is, sending a message like the one we saw does, practically always, achieve the desired result. Sometimes it leaves remaining subscribers discussing mailing list software and the like, but the main thing (from the unsubscriber's point of view) is that it does work. If it doesn't work you just send another one. Pretty soon you find yourself unsubscribed ;) *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
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You have to send to a different address. Instructions are in the headers. Subject: Unsubscribe From: tim...@gmail.com To: or-talk@freehaven.net Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:07:45 +0200 Unsubscribe -- The three fastest modes of communication ... telephone, telegraph and tell-a-woman. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
Re: [OT]RE: Unsubscribe
downie - wrote: You have to send to a different address. Instructions [to unsubscribe] are in the headers. Having seen this situation on this list multiple times, it occurs to me that beyond To, From, and Date, many people have probably never seen the headers. Most non-techies probably don't even know it exists. I believe most GUI mail clients, by default, only show the abbreviated version I just mentioned. I know mine does. I don't know what the solution is, but I thought I would throw this out there for people's consideration. Jim
Re: unsubscribe or-talk
Scott Bennett wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:42:56 -0400 Michael Cozzi co...@cozziconsulting.com wrote: Dan Collins wrote: As was noted the last ten times (by my count) someone did this, and as you were told when you registered, and as you are told in every email sent by this list, and just like any other mailing list using this software, of which there are a great many, your message says this: Subject: unsubscribe or-talk and a few lines later, X-To-Get-Off-This-List: mail majord...@seul.org, body unsubscribe or-talk Apparently, the illiterate still manage to learn how to subscribe to mailing lists (perhaps their kids show them how?), though to what purpose is anyone's guess. One of the things I love about being an IT Professional is, in general, being really smart. One of the things I hate about being an IT Professional is when the really smart look down their nose at someone who apparently can't do something simple. USENET from 1992 is pretty much finished and I would personally be gratified, not that it matters, if you just explained the proper command to the guy instead of proving to me, and everyone else, that indeed you have mastered Majordomo. I, for one, wasn't impressed. There's probably a good amount of user class subscriptions to this list. Try to remember that those folks actually get attention from women, and have what we, the IT People, only dream of: Lives. Yes, I've had a bad day. But please... be nice. Actually, most/all of what he posted was a quotation without citation of me from several weeks ago, IIRC, when yes, I had had a bad day. However, it doesn't matter whether a person is familiar with majordomo, listserv, or other mailing list software. What matters is whether they can read and bother to do so. FWIW, I responded privately to the OP in the current case, quoting and undercareting the header in question and asking him to unsubscribe himself. He then wrote back, asking me how to do it! So I wrote once again, stating that I couldn't believe it, this time placing a large, vertical arrow below the undercareting and pointing upward toward it. That time he finally got it. Sigh. If you can think of any excuse for that, I'd love to read it. Scott, I'll just let my comment stand on it's own merits. Michael
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I'm killing this thread. If people want to argue about etiquette, please do so off the list. Thanks. -- Andrew Lewman The Tor Project pgp 0x31B0974B Website: https://torproject.org/ Blog: https://blog.torproject.org/ Identica/Twitter: torproject
Re: unsubscribe or-talk
As was noted the last ten times (by my count) someone did this, and as you were told when you registered, and as you are told in every email sent by this list, and just like any other mailing list using this software, of which there are a great many, your message says this: Subject: unsubscribe or-talk and a few lines later, X-To-Get-Off-This-List: mail majord...@seul.org, body unsubscribe or-talk Apparently, the illiterate still manage to learn how to subscribe to mailing lists (perhaps their kids show them how?), though to what purpose is anyone's guess. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Caner Bulutcaner...@gmail.com wrote: Please unsubscribe me. Thanks. -- DCollins/ST47
Re: unsubscribe or-talk
Dan Collins wrote: As was noted the last ten times (by my count) someone did this, and as you were told when you registered, and as you are told in every email sent by this list, and just like any other mailing list using this software, of which there are a great many, your message says this: Subject: unsubscribe or-talk and a few lines later, X-To-Get-Off-This-List: mail majord...@seul.org, body unsubscribe or-talk Apparently, the illiterate still manage to learn how to subscribe to mailing lists (perhaps their kids show them how?), though to what purpose is anyone's guess. One of the things I love about being an IT Professional is, in general, being really smart. One of the things I hate about being an IT Professional is when the really smart look down their nose at someone who apparently can't do something simple. USENET from 1992 is pretty much finished and I would personally be gratified, not that it matters, if you just explained the proper command to the guy instead of proving to me, and everyone else, that indeed you have mastered Majordomo. I, for one, wasn't impressed. There's probably a good amount of user class subscriptions to this list. Try to remember that those folks actually get attention from women, and have what we, the IT People, only dream of: Lives. Yes, I've had a bad day. But please... be nice. Michael
[OT]RE: unsubscribe or-talk
'It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness.' - Anon Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:17:01 -0400 Subject: Re: unsubscribe or-talk From: en.wp.s...@gmail.com To: or-talk@freehaven.net As was noted the last ten times (by my count) someone did this, and as you were told when you registered, and as you are told in every email sent by this list, and just like any other mailing list using this software, of which there are a great many, your message says this: Subject: unsubscribe or-talk and a few lines later, X-To-Get-Off-This-List: mail majord...@seul.org, body unsubscribe or-talk Apparently, the illiterate still manage to learn how to subscribe to mailing lists (perhaps their kids show them how?), though to what purpose is anyone's guess. DCollins/ST47 _ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009
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On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:42:56 -0400 Michael Cozzi co...@cozziconsulting.com wrote: Dan Collins wrote: As was noted the last ten times (by my count) someone did this, and as you were told when you registered, and as you are told in every email sent by this list, and just like any other mailing list using this software, of which there are a great many, your message says this: Subject: unsubscribe or-talk and a few lines later, X-To-Get-Off-This-List: mail majord...@seul.org, body unsubscribe or-talk Apparently, the illiterate still manage to learn how to subscribe to mailing lists (perhaps their kids show them how?), though to what purpose is anyone's guess. One of the things I love about being an IT Professional is, in general, being really smart. One of the things I hate about being an IT Professional is when the really smart look down their nose at someone who apparently can't do something simple. USENET from 1992 is pretty much finished and I would personally be gratified, not that it matters, if you just explained the proper command to the guy instead of proving to me, and everyone else, that indeed you have mastered Majordomo. I, for one, wasn't impressed. There's probably a good amount of user class subscriptions to this list. Try to remember that those folks actually get attention from women, and have what we, the IT People, only dream of: Lives. Yes, I've had a bad day. But please... be nice. Actually, most/all of what he posted was a quotation without citation of me from several weeks ago, IIRC, when yes, I had had a bad day. However, it doesn't matter whether a person is familiar with majordomo, listserv, or other mailing list software. What matters is whether they can read and bother to do so. FWIW, I responded privately to the OP in the current case, quoting and undercareting the header in question and asking him to unsubscribe himself. He then wrote back, asking me how to do it! So I wrote once again, stating that I couldn't believe it, this time placing a large, vertical arrow below the undercareting and pointing upward toward it. That time he finally got it. Sigh. If you can think of any excuse for that, I'd love to read it. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * **
Re: unsubscribe or-talk
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:58:18 -0700 Please Sir, Do a Wheelie evolt...@hackbloc.org wrote: Subject: unsubscribe or-talk and a few lines later, X-To-Get-Off-This-List: mail majord...@seul.org, body unsubscribe or-talk Apparently, the illiterate still manage to learn how to subscribe to mailing lists (perhaps their kids show them how?), though to what purpose is anyone's guess. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * **
RE: unsubscribe
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RE: unsubscribe
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Re: unsubscribe
* on the Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 02:44:46AM +0200, sigi wrote: unsubscribe me. Please write your Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with mailbody including: unsubscribe or-talk btw: When finally will list-subscribers check their mailheaders for this? It would never have occurred to me to check the headers either, so perhaps you are being too hard on them. Possibly I was too hard on this, but this unsubscribe-question comes so often on all mailinglists, that it bothers a lot nowadays... and it's been answered frequently already - so often... Some people are just too lazy to look into how to unsubscribe from a mailing list properly. I'm sure a 30 second google would have been sufficient, but they'd rather email everyone on a mailing list asking that information instead as it involves engaging less brain cells. -- Erilenz
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On 10 Oct 2008, at 10:00, Erilenz wrote: I'm sure a 30 second google would have been sufficient, Actually Google returns four result, all of which have the correct email address obliterated to prevent spamming ;) . We're all capable of making incorrect assumptions.
Re: unsubscribe
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:29:39 +0100 Geoff Down [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Oct 2008, at 10:00, Erilenz wrote: I'm sure a 30 second google would have been sufficient, Actually Google returns four result, all of which have the correct email address obliterated to prevent spamming ;) . We're all capable of making incorrect assumptions. All of that is basically unnecessary and irrelevant. Nearly all modern mailing lists that use an automated subscription process send an email message to each new subscriber to confirm that the subscriber's attempt to subscribe has succeeded. Many use an intermediate step of an email exchange in which the subscriber must confirm that he/she did, in fact, wish to subscribe (i.e., the subscription request wasn't faked by someone else). In any case, the confirmation message almost always includes instructions for unsubscribing and often for modifying the subscription in other ways. The OR-TALK list is no exception. Anyone with enough functioning neurons to use a computer can see that they should keep a copy of the confirmation message containing the instructions for getting off the list. That's just common sense. If they aren't doing that, it's because they are generally inconsiderate and expect the world to tie their shoelaces for them, wipe their butts for them when they crap, etc. If I were the list owner, I would be tempted to leave them subscribed but block their email address from being able to post to the list. That way they would still have to take some responsibility for getting what they want, but could no longer harass my list. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * **
Re: unsubscribe
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. On 10 Oct 2008, at 19:27, Scott Bennett wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:29:39 +0100 Geoff Down [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Oct 2008, at 10:00, Erilenz wrote: I'm sure a 30 second google would have been sufficient, Actually Google returns four result, all of which have the correct email address obliterated to prevent spamming ;) . We're all capable of making incorrect assumptions. All of that is basically unnecessary and irrelevant. Nearly all modern mailing lists that use an automated subscription process send an email message to each new subscriber to confirm that the subscriber's attempt to subscribe has succeeded. Many use an intermediate step of an email exchange in which the subscriber must confirm that he/she did, in fact, wish to subscribe (i.e., the subscription request wasn't faked by someone else). In any case, the confirmation message almost always includes instructions for unsubscribing and often for modifying the subscription in other ways. The OR-TALK list is no exception. Anyone with enough functioning neurons to use a computer can see that they should keep a copy of the confirmation message containing the instructions for getting off the list. That's just common sense. If they aren't doing that, it's because they are generally inconsiderate and expect the world to tie their shoelaces for them, wipe their butts for them when they crap, etc. If I were the list owner, I would be tempted to leave them subscribed but block their email address from being able to post to the list. That way they would still have to take some responsibility for getting what they want, but could no longer harass my list. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * **
Re: unsubscribe
Hi John, On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 04:15:35AM -0700, John Mosgrove wrote: unsubscribe me. Please write your Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with mailbody including: unsubscribe or-talk btw: When finally will list-subscribers check their mailheaders for this? sigi.
Re: unsubscribe
It would never have occurred to me to check the headers either, so perhaps you are being too hard on them. GD On 9 Oct 2008, at 13:24, sigi wrote: Hi John, On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 04:15:35AM -0700, John Mosgrove wrote: unsubscribe me. Please write your Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with mailbody including: unsubscribe or-talk btw: When finally will list-subscribers check their mailheaders for this? sigi.
Re: unsubscribe
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:08:35PM +0100, Geoff Down wrote: On 9 Oct 2008, at 13:24, sigi wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 04:15:35AM -0700, John Mosgrove wrote: unsubscribe me. Please write your Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with mailbody including: unsubscribe or-talk btw: When finally will list-subscribers check their mailheaders for this? It would never have occurred to me to check the headers either, so perhaps you are being too hard on them. Possibly I was too hard on this, but this unsubscribe-question comes so often on all mailinglists, that it bothers a lot nowadays... and it's been answered frequently already - so often... sigi.
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Re: Unsubscribe
Quoth Brad Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 2007-10-01 21:09:24 +0200: Unsubscribe No. Do it yourself. :-P It's in the header of every message. X-To-Get-Off-This-List: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], body unsubscribe or-talk --- Drake Wilson
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Re: unsubscribe or-talk
Thanks a lot... I miss the e-mails headers... like --- SNIP --- List-Id: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l.Wikimedia.org List-Unsubscribe: http://mail, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://mail. List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail., mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SNAP --- Bye Original Message From: Kees Vonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: or-talk@freehaven.net Subject: Re:unsubscribe or-talk Date: Thu Oct 12 2006 23:51:24 GMT+0200 News Assi wrote: unsubscribe or-talk You need to send this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order to unsubscribe (at least according to the welcome email I received when subscribing). Kees
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 like X-To-Get-Off-This-List: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], body unsubscribe or-talk ? :o) Greetz Missi Eben(am 13. 10. 2006 um 7:21 Uhr)schrobst du: Thanks a lot... I miss the e-mails headers... like --- SNIP --- List-Id: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l.Wikimedia.org List-Unsubscribe: http://mail, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://mail. List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail., mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SNAP --- Bye Original Message From: Kees Vonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: or-talk@freehaven.net Subject: Re:unsubscribe or-talk Date: Thu Oct 12 2006 23:51:24 GMT+0200 News Assi wrote: unsubscribe or-talk You need to send this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order to unsubscribe (at least according to the welcome email I received when subscribing). Kees - -- Webseite: http://www.entartete-kunst.com/ Software uses US measurements, but the OS is in metric... Songverfehlung des Tages: NIX -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Ich habe nichts zu verbergen! iD8DBQFFLyPKWTjnF57KrgIRAtsjAJ98rEhyzISnxRbDLjJCOmGXuJSw/ACfZ7Zg HCh9hnYQSPhbUcnsUnt8YLc= =tIai -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: unsubscribe
Laurel Fitzhugh wrote: When you subscribed you were told how to unsubscribe: - Welcome to the or-talk mailing list! Please save this message for future reference. Thank you. If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe or-talk
Re: unsubscribe
Gregor, don't send mails to the mailing list if you want to unsubscribe. Instead you need to send them to the mailing list management software (majordomo or whatever). Gregor Magdolen schrieb: unsubscribe !DSPAM:446906c0120211594113294! -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards DAn.I.El S. Haischt Spammers, please please send any mail to: Daniel S. Haischt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
