Re: About HTTP 1.1 Cache

2007-09-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
 Most servers treat Last-Modified values as opaque validators --

 IIS and Apache -- don't.

Interesting -- thanks for the info.

Juliusz


Re: About HTTP 1.1 Cache

2007-09-21 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
The easiest solution would be just using different browser-profiles
and run them simultaneously. One for Tor, one for everything else.

Cheers, Alex.

-- 
I am tired of all this sort of thing called science here... We have spent
millions in that sort of thing for the last few years, and it is time it
should be stopped.
 -- Simon Cameron, U.S. Senator, on the Smithsonian Institution, 1901.


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Re: About HTTP 1.1 Cache

2007-09-21 Thread Arrakis
We call this xB Browser.

3 Steve

Alexander W. Janssen wrote:
 The easiest solution would be just using different browser-profiles
 and run them simultaneously. One for Tor, one for everything else.
 
 Cheers, Alex.
 


Re: About HTTP 1.1 Cache

2007-09-21 Thread Andy Schaumberg

Steve-

Side-by-side would be good.

I'm often switching my proxy settings around between port 8118 (use 
Privoxy+Tor) and port 8119 (use Privoxy w/o Tor). I don't like the 
Firefox Tor button plugin because it's too global. I'd like one 
session that I know will use Tor, and another that won't. I was 
considering installing Seamonkey with different proxy settings for this 
reason alone. It's good to be able to use the full speed of my 
connection, while still keeping the anonymous option open for some traffic.


I think themes may be a bit distracting too, but that depends on the 
theme. Having a different process name would be nice, or a little icon 
somewhere would be enough. Just so long as I can tell the two apart and 
have them be separate processes with separate configurations.


Cheers-
-Andy

Arrakis wrote:

Kyle

You could if you want to recompile. Now I'm about to release xBB
2.0.0.7, and my concern about that is if the user can't tell the
difference, visually, between Firefox and xB Browser. I can use themes
and that is a little distracting, but xB Browser is geared towards tor
novice and mid-levels. If they are advanced users, they can always edit
the head section to use a different process name rather than Firefox.exe.

Now, I *could* edit it to use something else entirely, and then you
wouldn't have the problem. Would anyone else like to be able to run
Firefox and xB Browser side-by side; and if so would you want a
different theme so you could tell them apart?

Steve


Kyle Williams wrote:

Doesn't xB Browser require me to close my existing firefox first, before it
can start?
Can I run both xB-Browser (using Tor) and my Firefox (not using Tor) at the
same time somehow?


On 9/21/07, Arrakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We call this xB Browser.

3 Steve

Alexander W. Janssen wrote:

The easiest solution would be just using different browser-profiles
and run them simultaneously. One for Tor, one for everything else.

Cheers, Alex.





Re: About HTTP 1.1 Cache

2007-09-21 Thread Arrakis
Andy,

So maybe a very subtle theme and icon change. I'll give it some thought
tonight as I finish xB Browser 2.0.0.7a

Regards,
Steve

Andy Schaumberg wrote:
 Steve-
 
 Side-by-side would be good.
 
 I'm often switching my proxy settings around between port 8118 (use
 Privoxy+Tor) and port 8119 (use Privoxy w/o Tor). I don't like the
 Firefox Tor button plugin because it's too global. I'd like one
 session that I know will use Tor, and another that won't. I was
 considering installing Seamonkey with different proxy settings for this
 reason alone. It's good to be able to use the full speed of my
 connection, while still keeping the anonymous option open for some traffic.
 
 I think themes may be a bit distracting too, but that depends on the
 theme. Having a different process name would be nice, or a little icon
 somewhere would be enough. Just so long as I can tell the two apart and
 have them be separate processes with separate configurations.
 
 Cheers-
 -Andy
 
 Arrakis wrote:
 Kyle

 You could if you want to recompile. Now I'm about to release xBB
 2.0.0.7, and my concern about that is if the user can't tell the
 difference, visually, between Firefox and xB Browser. I can use themes
 and that is a little distracting, but xB Browser is geared towards tor
 novice and mid-levels. If they are advanced users, they can always edit
 the head section to use a different process name rather than Firefox.exe.

 Now, I *could* edit it to use something else entirely, and then you
 wouldn't have the problem. Would anyone else like to be able to run
 Firefox and xB Browser side-by side; and if so would you want a
 different theme so you could tell them apart?

 Steve


 Kyle Williams wrote:
 Doesn't xB Browser require me to close my existing firefox first,
 before it
 can start?
 Can I run both xB-Browser (using Tor) and my Firefox (not using Tor)
 at the
 same time somehow?


 On 9/21/07, Arrakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We call this xB Browser.

 3 Steve

 Alexander W. Janssen wrote:
 The easiest solution would be just using different browser-profiles
 and run them simultaneously. One for Tor, one for everything else.

 Cheers, Alex.


 


Re: About HTTP 1.1 Cache

2007-09-20 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
 What about If-Modified-Since header with time now? The website can know
 the las visit, time and the pages of browser with a database.
 Added this information with browser identification can not be good.

You're right.  This is one of the reasons why you must purge your
browser cache and your proxy cache regularly when you use tor, typi-
cally whenever you switch from one persona too the other.

This is also why I recommend that people using Polipo with tor should
not use an on-disk cache, unless they understand the consequences.

Regards,

Juliusz