Re: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 01:32:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not a professional techie, since running an exit node this fall I am > being habitually banned from Google, Charter has asked me to stop > spamming, and now today the police are at my door looking for Tobias. Port 25 open, eh? Not a good idear, and not part of the standard exit policy. > Their information says Tobias connected from my home address (provided > by Charter I assume) Sept. 27. They only circled the house a half a > dozen times yesterday. I am a family person not well positioned for > hassles. Briefly reading Mirko's note, until more familiar I think > shutting down my exit would be wise, no? Before you shut it down completely, I recommend going middleman. Assuming harassment is complaint-driven, it will cease instantly (allow 2-3 months for running cases to complete, depending on how busy the mounties are). What did it for me, is allegations of pedophilia trafficking. Had no particular incentives to be burned at that particular stake. (Of course, assuming you want to get rid of somebody, that's just the right accusations to make). > Hope this post goes to list, can't find list post commands. -- Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>leitl http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
Re: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 01:32:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 0.6K bytes in 10 lines about: : hassles. Briefly reading Mirko's note, until more familiar I think : shutting down my exit would be wise, no? Switching to non-exit node is also helpful. Or, talking with a legal advisor and seeing what your options are is another. -- Andrew
Re: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??
If I was in your position I might consider putting some bulk demagnetizers near my hard drives with a panic switch, with backups to a secure unknown location. Don't know how they work in Canada, but here in the USA, they keep your equipment once they seize it and build a case from your hard drives. Better yet increase your RAM and run everything off a ram drive if possible. If you are already under surveillance, best to seek legal advice now. Don't know if the Electronic Frontier Foundation will help or not. You might also get advice on the usenet. misc.legal, comp.legal(or similar). All depends on what statute and case law is in Canada and whether or not you have access to good legal representation. Sounds like they are getting ready to pounce and casing your house. On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:01:12 +0100, "Eugen Leitl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 01:32:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Not a professional techie, since running an exit node this fall I am > > being habitually banned from Google, Charter has asked me to stop > > spamming, and now today the police are at my door looking for Tobias. > > Port 25 open, eh? Not a good idear, and not part of the standard > exit policy. > > > Their information says Tobias connected from my home address (provided > > by Charter I assume) Sept. 27. They only circled the house a half a > > dozen times yesterday. I am a family person not well positioned for > > hassles. Briefly reading Mirko's note, until more familiar I think > > shutting down my exit would be wise, no? > > Before you shut it down completely, I recommend going middleman. > Assuming harassment is complaint-driven, it will cease instantly > (allow 2-3 months for running cases to complete, depending on > how busy the mounties are). > > What did it for me, is allegations of pedophilia trafficking. > Had no particular incentives to be burned at that particular stake. > (Of course, assuming you want to get rid of somebody, that's > just the right accusations to make). > > > Hope this post goes to list, can't find list post commands. > > -- > Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>leitl http://leitl.org > __ > ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org > 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely differentÂ…
Re: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 02:06:22PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If I was in your position I might consider putting some bulk > demagnetizers near my hard drives with a panic switch, with backups to a Doesn't work, you'd need too many Teslas. Plastique or thermite would work. Cryptographic filesystem would work, since you only would have to lose power for a couple seconds. > secure unknown location. Don't know how they work in Canada, but here in > the USA, they keep your equipment once they seize it and build a case In Germany the hardware is effectively confiscated. You might get your hardware out earlier (in a couple months) if you have a lawyer, and can make a case that you're a business. > from your hard drives. Better yet increase your RAM and run everything > off a ram drive if possible. If you are already under surveillance, best I would expect that many of Tor exit node operators have been under telecommunication surveillance. > to seek legal advice now. Don't know if the Electronic Frontier > Foundation will help or not. You might also get advice on the usenet. > misc.legal, comp.legal(or similar). All depends on what statute and case > law is in Canada and whether or not you have access to good legal > representation. Sounds like they are getting ready to pounce and casing > your house. In Bavaria, you only have to criticize the pope while in presence of a fink. The SWAT will be with you shortly. -- Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>leitl http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
Re: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not a professional techie, since running an exit node this fall I am > being habitually banned from Google, Charter has asked me to stop > spamming, and now today the police are at my door looking for Tobias. (snip) > > Hope this post goes to list, can't find list post commands. > It made it to the list. =:o) In any case, I set my node up as "middleman" from the beginning. Given that I'm just running from my home, I wouldn't have a whole lot of backing to defend from legal or police troubles; running as a middleman allows me to provide capacity to the network, while avoiding most of the liability (potentially) carried by exit nodes. As others have suggested, I strongly recommend trying "going middleman" before leaving the network completely. Taking an occasional peek at my Tor service via TCPView (shouldn't be a problem, since I'm only connected to other nodes), you'd be surprised how much utilization I get even as a middleman! =:oD Every little bit of bandwidth helps. - -- F. Fox CompTIA A+, Net+, Security+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHUxmLbgkxCAzYBCMRAkmKAKCOIqmLACMxAckS5UusOLF7fGgNHACgkVaK doirLmxSDOzuFRlpId0nVSI= =+7/B -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If I was in your position I might consider putting some bulk > demagnetizers near my hard drives with a panic switch, with backups to a > secure unknown location. Now this is definitively a bizarre idea... :-) That reminds me of the "nuke gateway"-function in the game Uplink[1]. Alex. [1] http://www.uplink.co.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iQCVAwUBR1MpERYlVVSQ3uFxAQLmXAP9FKqkC/3tqzYVgWK7DwqUlme+nOsMyVXw kPjRjl/vbZAHC1MuRlMsakMP6caKladDpX0JH8nMcNfjmIcDbm7B5qDjmrw6UuVv y+u9f8oNWth1Nv0w7Qty84cTABkrrs/68zwJnLwvUoZwNgBObIftUZcjDKHraazi yHKZyQ51N34= =yQ5u -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 02:06:22PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> If I was in your position I might consider putting some bulk >> demagnetizers near my hard drives with a panic switch, with backups to a > > Doesn't work, you'd need too many Teslas. Plastique or thermite would work. > Cryptographic filesystem would work, since you only would have to lose > power for a couple seconds. > It might be a bit late for buying and placing explosives or incindieries. =:oD In any case, I'm not about to give advice on explosives, etc. - I'm not anonymized from here, forgetting the fact that it's a moot idea. A cryptographic filesystem is a day late and a dollar short... however, he might be able to start overwriting with something like Darik's Boot & Nuke: http://dban.sourceforge.net To finish would take forever, but IIRC, the Gutmann-style wipe starts with a pseudorandom stream - and if even a single one of those were to complete before they got the drive, they'd need to stick the thing in a cleanroom to get anything (again, IIRC). They don't always do that... software usually comes first. I guess it depends on the value of the data. If something really, really nasty got relayed through your node - like an [alleged] "terrorist threat" or similar hogwash - they might use such a method. But, DBAN's a free, practical, and non-violent idea. - -- F. Fox CompTIA A+, Net+, Security+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHUyhabgkxCAzYBCMRAsRVAJ9qTRxiTe8iCT2ntp/4WQ6HST6hpgCfYFMD 3GFNNSinPPreEFdMUKfS2qQ= =Z6VG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Nice quiet, private, anonymous life??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander W. Janssen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> If I was in your position I might consider putting some bulk >> demagnetizers near my hard drives with a panic switch, with backups to a >> secure unknown location. > > Now this is definitively a bizarre idea... :-) > > That reminds me of the "nuke gateway"-function in the game Uplink[1]. (snip) Although bizarre, this thread is not the first where I've heard of non-electronic panic-button-triggered data destruction mechanisms. Some I've heard of, at least purportedly: * Magnetism; * Incindieries (I can't spell that word worth crap); * Microwaves (the "Firedrive"); * Explosives (the plastique idea from earlier - I don't recommend it). I still think the best idea is a few scrubs of pseudorandom data, and then a sledgehammer to disable the physical mechanism (if you want extra security, and have no intentions of reusing the drive); of course, for the ultra-paranoid, this method will require a while for the PR streams to finish. =:oD - -- F. Fox CompTIA A+, Net+, Security+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHUzDObgkxCAzYBCMRAo/7AJ9j17R/zzQdzmO+GY1g/Yg7b48fxgCeKdGx 1Q+Asn6zHyb/Z2ujAz5zwVU= =hAMe -END PGP SIGNATURE-
