Re: Running a stable exit node without interference (Was blutmagie quad core upgrade)

2010-05-12 Thread grarpamp
>  I Don't have any information about the subject but would it be possible
>  to buy own ip-range which would stay in my possession even if I switched
>  ISP's. I don't think it comes very cheap...

>>> I have been thinking a long time how to run a stable exit node without
>>> getting constantly in trouble. Your own Whois-data on your ip-range
>>> (abuse-contact etc) could help a lot.

This is all possible, and in fact, largely required. However, contrary to the
requirement, many providers do not allow their customers to do this.
https://www.arin.net/resources/request/reassignments.html
If you poke around whois using IP address from small hosting companies
you'll find a few examples of properly swipped delegations. Say a /16 farming
out a /22 to the hoster.

You can buy your own CIDR blocks straight from the RIR's just like any ISP
can. But it's not cheap, and you are pretty much required to be well
steeped in the tech and also already in business as a sizable ISP/hoster.
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Re: Running a stable exit node without interference (Was blutmagie quad core upgrade)

2010-05-09 Thread M
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Olaf Selke wrote:
> M schrieb:
>> Okay, that cleared things a lot. I Guess that authorities treats that
>> ip-range as an ISP.
> 
> yes, as Timo already pointed out, my own Ripe assignment does the trick.
> Authorities treat me like an isp.

Own Ripe assigment would be great but how to get that? My local ISP only
offers to add some of my companys information to the top of the existing
Ripe-data.

Do a "whois 62.241.236.0", the data existing there would stay but my
companys data would be above it. Not sure if that's so good idea, I'd
like it to only show my own information and nothing from my ISP.

I Don't have any information about the subject but would it be possible
to buy own ip-range which would stay in my possession even if I switched
ISP's. I don't think it comes very cheap...


>> I have been thinking a long time how to run a stable exit node without
>> getting constantly in trouble. Your own Whois-data on your ip-range
>> (abuse-contact etc) could help a lot.
> 
> definitely!
> 
> Olaf

Btw, really big thanks for running blutmagie-exit!

M

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Re: Running a stable exit node without interference (Was blutmagie quad core upgrade)

2010-05-09 Thread Olaf Selke
M schrieb:
> 
> Okay, that cleared things a lot. I Guess that authorities treats that
> ip-range as an ISP.

yes, as Timo already pointed out, my own Ripe assignment does the trick.
Authorities treat me like an isp.

> I have been thinking a long time how to run a stable exit node without
> getting constantly in trouble. Your own Whois-data on your ip-range
> (abuse-contact etc) could help a lot.

definitely!

Olaf
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Re: Running a stable exit node without interference (Was blutmagie quad core upgrade)

2010-05-08 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake M (maill...@piirakka.com):

> >> I've been wondering this for a long time. How do you keep your exit node
> >> running without interference from ISP / local police etc.? Especially
> >> when it's the largest exit node.
> > 
> > Do a 'whois' for Olaf's IP range... ;)
> Okay, that cleared things a lot. I Guess that authorities treats that
> ip-range as an ISP.
> 
> I have been thinking a long time how to run a stable exit node without
> getting constantly in trouble. Your own Whois-data on your ip-range
> (abuse-contact etc) could help a lot.

We've thought about this too:
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment

-- 
Mike Perry
Mad Computer Scientist
fscked.org evil labs


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Re: Running a stable exit node without interference (Was blutmagie quad core upgrade)

2010-05-08 Thread andrew
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 01:57:02PM +0300, maill...@piirakka.com wrote 1.2K 
bytes in 44 lines about:
: Okay, that cleared things a lot. I Guess that authorities treats that
: ip-range as an ISP.
: 
: Last week I was in contact with my ISP and it is possible to have your
: companys etc. information on the ip-range that you use but still it
: shows also the original whois-information.

Smarter ISPs will sub-allocate the range to the customer. This puts the
customer in charge of their abuse complaints, rather than the ISP who
doesn't really want to deal with the abuse complaints at all.  

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The Tor Project
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Re: Running a stable exit node without interference (Was blutmagie quad core upgrade)

2010-05-08 Thread M
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Timo Schoeler wrote:
> M wrote:
>> Hello
> 
>> I've been wondering this for a long time. How do you keep your exit node
>> running without interference from ISP / local police etc.? Especially
>> when it's the largest exit node.
> 
> Do a 'whois' for Olaf's IP range... ;)
> 
> Timo
> 

Okay, that cleared things a lot. I Guess that authorities treats that
ip-range as an ISP.

Last week I was in contact with my ISP and it is possible to have your
companys etc. information on the ip-range that you use but still it
shows also the original whois-information.

I have been thinking a long time how to run a stable exit node without
getting constantly in trouble. Your own Whois-data on your ip-range
(abuse-contact etc) could help a lot.


M


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