Re: Tor Bundle vs. Vidalia Bundle

2010-10-16 Thread andrew
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:14:54AM -0400, zzzjethro...@email2me.net wrote 1.3K 
bytes in 51 lines about:
: What is the difference between a Vidalia Bundle and a Tor Bundle, other than 
what I perceive as the obvious?

From the download page itself at
https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en:

Vidalia Bundle:
The Vidalia Bundle contains Tor, Vidalia, and Polipo for installation
on your system. You'll need to configure your applications to use it.

Tor Bundle:
The Expert Packages contain just Tor and nothing else. You'll need to
configure Tor and all of your applications manually.

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Tor Bundle vs. Vidalia Bundle

2010-10-14 Thread zzzjethro666

 hi.
What is the difference between a Vidalia Bundle and a Tor Bundle, other than 
what I perceive as the obvious?
One without the other? I thought they had to work together.

Oh, this learning curve!!! Infinity is just a mirror image of eternity. There's 
no place to go in a mirror.

 




Re: Tor Bundle vs. Vidalia Bundle

2010-10-14 Thread Justin Aplin

On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:14 AM, zzzjethro...@email2me.net wrote:


hi.
What is the difference between a Vidalia Bundle and a Tor Bundle,  
other than what I perceive as the obvious?

One without the other? I thought they had to work together.


What they have to do depends on what you're trying to do. The Tor  
program by itself does the legwork of building circuits and passing  
data to/from the network. It has no GUI and acts based on settings in  
the torrc text file. Tor is available on its own in the Expert  
Packages section of the download page, as the only people using Tor  
on its own are likely bridge, relay, and exit operators who know what  
they're doing. It's not a bundle per se.


Vidalia is GUI program that interacts with Tor and makes its settings  
easier to handle, along with other nifty features such as viewing the  
network, logs, etc. The Vidalia Bundle on the download page is  
designed to be installed on a computer you'll be using Tor on  
regularly. That is, it isn't portable, can't easily be carried with  
you on a USB key or CD, and doesn't come with an internet browser. The  
bundle includes Polipo, which makes funneling HTTP and SOCKS proxies  
into Tor easier and safer.


The Tor Browser Bundle (the bundle I assume you're talking about in  
your post) is the same set of programs, together with a locked-down  
version of Firefox, that it designed to be completely portable. You  
don't have to install it, so it's easy to carry with you on a USB key  
or CD. Tor, Vidalia, Polipo, and the customized Firefox are all  
seamlessly started with a single button in this package.


All of this information is available on the download pages and in the  
documentation, I'd recommend reading through them.


~Justin Aplin

Re: Tor Bundle vs. Vidalia Bundle

2010-10-14 Thread zzzjethro666

 

 


 

 

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From: Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu
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Subject: Re: Tor Bundle vs. Vidalia Bundle



On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:14 AM, zzzjethro...@email2me.net wrote:


 
 hi.
 What is the difference between a Vidalia Bundle and a Tor Bundle, other than 
what I perceive as the obvious?
 One without the other? I thought they had to work together.



What they have to do depends on what you're trying to do. The Tor program by 
itself does the legwork of building circuits and passing data to/from the 
network. It has no GUI and acts based on settings in the torrc text file. Tor 
is available on its own in the Expert Packages section of the download page, 
as the only people using Tor on its own are likely bridge, relay, and exit 
operators who know what they're doing. It's not a bundle per se.


Vidalia is GUI program that interacts with Tor and makes its settings easier to 
handle, along with other nifty features such as viewing the network, logs, etc. 
The Vidalia Bundle on the download page is designed to be installed on a 
computer you'll be using Tor on regularly. That is, it isn't portable, can't 
easily be carried with you on a USB key or CD, and doesn't come with an 
internet browser. The bundle includes Polipo, which makes funneling HTTP and 
SOCKS proxies into Tor easier and safer.


The Tor Browser Bundle (the bundle I assume you're talking about in your 
post) is the same set of programs, together with a locked-down version of 
Firefox, that it designed to be completely portable. You don't have to install 
it, so it's easy to carry with you on a USB key or CD. Tor, Vidalia, Polipo, 
and the customized Firefox are all seamlessly started with a single button in 
this package.


All of this information is available on the download pages and in the 
documentation, I'd recommend reading through them.


~Justin Aplin
=Thanks Justin.
Your explanation was very clear, and for someone like me, I need that. Perhaps 
you could write directions for others to use, as most I've read seem to be 
written only for the one writing them rather than thinking and writing for the 
one reading them!

I do appreciate it and I will continue to read the documentation as per your 
suggestion. Sure would like to help a lot more people to use Tor.

Adios