Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
Am Dienstag 08 Dezember 2009 schrieb John Case: We had a big long discussion about hardware devices a few months ago: You may find it useful to read that entire thread. In short: the Sun SCA-1000 does not perform AES at all, and will not help you with Tor at all. Thanks, I was reading the whole thread and it was very interesting to me. I know that the Sun SCA-1000 does NOT encrypt AES, but there is something that was not discussed in the thread: Random Devices. Thats what I found in a Sun doc about the SCA-1000: # Hardware Random Numbers: True random number generation of up to 125 Kbps Without such a board a system creates only pseudo random numbers. Right now I am very interested in questions regarding crypto and randomness. I wanted first check some more about this, then opening a discussion thread here about the quality of tor keys and PRNG versus hardware based randomness. Thats the main reason why I am interested in that card. Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
Am Dienstag 08 Dezember 2009 schrieb Lexi Pimenidis: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 07:56:19PM CET, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: Hej, thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de wrote: [...] Will you attend the 26c3? The poster's mail address suggests that he lives in my vicinity. As at least I will be at 26c3, I could pick up his hardware there and bring it to Cologne. It seems that meanwhile someone bought the SCA-1000 for me and will travel to germany soon. So no further help is necasssary right now. Thanks for all other offers. Perhaps I will be at the 26c3, dont know yet. Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:15:16 +0100 thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de wrote: Am Dienstag 08 Dezember 2009 schrieb John Case: =20 We had a big long discussion about hardware devices a few months ago: =20 You may find it useful to read that entire thread. =20 In short: the Sun SCA-1000 does not perform AES at all, and will not help= =20 you with Tor at all. Thanks, I was reading the whole thread and it was very interesting to me. I= know that the Sun SCA-1000 does NOT encrypt AES, but there is something th= at was not discussed in the thread: Random Devices. Thats what I found in a Sun doc about the SCA-1000: # Hardware Random Numbers: True random number generation of up to 125 Kbps Without such a board a system creates only pseudo random numbers. Right n= ow I am very interested in questions regarding crypto and randomness. I wan= ted first check some more about this, then opening a discussion thread here= about the quality of tor keys and PRNG versus hardware based randomness. T= hats the main reason why I am interested in that card. Uh...hmmm...on what basis does Sun claim generation of true random numbers? Unless it includes a sample of some radioisotope and a timestamping particle detector, why would hardware/firmware RNG output be any less pseudo-random than software RNG output would? Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
Hi! On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 06:07:03AM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: [...] Uh...hmmm...on what basis does Sun claim generation of true random numbers? Unless it includes a sample of some radioisotope and a timestamping particle detector, why would hardware/firmware RNG output be any less pseudo-random than software RNG output would? IIRC another possible source is the random noise on a resistor or something like that. That might not be uniform first, but with appropriate transformations applied afterwards... Kind regards, Hannah(s). *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
US Customers: anyone helping me?
Hello altogether, for my Sun Hosts I would like to have a Crypto Hardware Accelerator Card. At ebay.com there are some. Especially this one is what I want to get: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-X6762A-375-3089-Crypto-Accelerator-1000_W0QQitemZ180440049586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Networking_Components?hash=item2a0310a7b2 Unfortunately the owner sells only within the USA, but I live in germany. I wrote him and asked if he would make an exception, but he doesnt. At ebay.de there is nothing like this. So can someone living in the US get this, then sending it for me to germany? If so, please contact me by mail directly (my PublicKeys can be obtained from the keyservers) Thanks in advance Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
Well, he probably does not want to do all the associated paperwork and/or risk going to jail...I suggest reading http://www.bis.doc.gov/encryption/default.htm before pursuing this... (I am not suggesting I agree or disagree with the policy, just pointing out the obvious issues surrounding US crypto export that one should be familiar with if thinking about this...). -Michael thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de wrote: Hello altogether, for my Sun Hosts I would like to have a Crypto Hardware Accelerator Card. At ebay.com there are some. Especially this one is what I want to get: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-X6762A-375-3089-Crypto-Accelerator-1000_W0QQitemZ180440049586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Networking_Components?hash=item2a0310a7b2 Unfortunately the owner sells only within the USA, but I live in germany. I wrote him and asked if he would make an exception, but he doesnt. At ebay.de there is nothing like this. So can someone living in the US get this, then sending it for me to germany? If so, please contact me by mail directly (my PublicKeys can be obtained from the keyservers) Thanks in advance Thomas *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
On 12/07/2009 08:17 AM, Michael Reed wrote: Well, he probably does not want to do all the associated paperwork and/or risk going to jail. http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-X6762A-375-3089-Crypto-Accelerator-1000_W0QQitemZ180440049586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Networking_Components?hash=item2a0310a7b2 If you look on Sun's website, that card is available outside the US too. I suspect the seller just doesn't want to be bothered with non-US buyers. -- Andrew Lewman The Tor Project pgp 0x31B0974B Website: https://torproject.org/ Blog: https://blog.torproject.org/ Identi.ca: torproject *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
rather expensive but worldwide shipping http://cgi.ebay.de/Sun-X6762A-Crypto-Accelerator-1000-375-3089_W0QQitemZ300369444042QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Servers?hash=item45ef69fcca Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de wrote: Hello altogether, for my Sun Hosts I would like to have a Crypto Hardware Accelerator Card. At ebay.com there are some. Especially this one is what I want to get: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-X6762A-375-3089-Crypto-Accelerator-1000_W0QQitemZ180440049586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Networking_Components?hash=item2a0310a7b2 Unfortunately the owner sells only within the USA, but I live in germany. I wrote him and asked if he would make an exception, but he doesnt. At ebay.de there is nothing like this. So can someone living in the US get this, then sending it for me to germany? If so, please contact me by mail directly (my PublicKeys can be obtained from the keyservers) Will you attend the 26c3? If so, there's a large Tor gathering planned and I'm sure someone will gladly bring it along for you. Best, Jacob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de wrote: for my Sun Hosts I would like to have a Crypto Hardware Accelerator Card. At ebay.com there are some. Especially this one is what I want to get: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-X6762A-375-3089-Crypto-Accelerator-1000_W0QQitemZ180440049586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Networking_Components?hash=item2a0310a7b2 Unfortunately the owner sells only within the USA, but I live in germany. I wrote him and asked if he would make an exception, but he doesnt. At ebay.de there is nothing like this. So can someone living in the US get this, then sending it for me to germany? If so, please contact me by mail directly (my PublicKeys can be obtained from the keyservers) We had a big long discussion about hardware devices a few months ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/or-talk@freehaven.net/msg11761.html You may find it useful to read that entire thread. In short: the Sun SCA-1000 does not perform AES at all, and will not help you with Tor at all. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: US Customers: anyone helping me?
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 07:56:19PM CET, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: Hej, thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de wrote: [...] Will you attend the 26c3? The poster's mail address suggests that he lives in my vicinity. As at least I will be at 26c3, I could pick up his hardware there and bring it to Cologne. Cheers, Lexi -- On. Frhb Ybtrvbobd, bOrp ZtgW, Dyblwrnvdun. 73, 50672 Xirfv CZ Xirfv WNG 58720, Zrdlwcrqudqmrwnmvz: Tblwcrf Trnurvd | Wcgr vmv, clw! Ywbfidiywbr, Jmnbdurnrb mvo Trobsbv, | Mvo frborn cmlw Uwrifizbr! Omnlwcmd dumobrnu, tbu wrbddrt Grtmrwv. | Oc durw blw vmv, blw cntrn Uin! Mvo gbv di xfmz cfd ebr smpin; *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
