Re: Revoke system privilege from user

2001-03-01 Thread B N RAMAMOHAN

Hi Chuan,

You can not revoke Just drop any table from DBA Role,
since drop any tables is not granted explicitly.

What you can do is create a copy of DBA role and from
that role reovke drop any table table priv. Use this
new role to grant DBA without Drop any table priv.

Regards,
Mohan


On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Chuan Zhang wrote:

> Hi, All,
> 
> I have granted DBA role to an user. But I don't want him  holding the
> "Drop Any Table" system privilege.
> 
> I did as follows:
> 
> 1. Connect as sysdba.
> 2. revoke drop any table from ABC-user;
> 
> And I got the error:" ORA-01952: system privileges not granted to
> 'ABC-user'".
> 
> Could anyone help me out?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuan

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what do i suppose to do ?

2001-03-01 Thread Rajiv Ranjan

Hi guys,

I want to create a database with  oracle 8i in a standalone machine , what
do i suppose to do ?

Thnax in advance
Rajiv


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RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread O'Neill, Sean

Dennis,

So how are things post earth quake?.  Did you need to invoke any of your DR
Plan?.  If so, sharing your experience on this would be useful after the
dust settles =:-0

It's a hell of a wake up call to remind one why DR plans are important.   

The earthquake made news here in Ireland along with the impending foot &
mouth disease crisis and even mentioned ahead of bad rail crash in England
across the Irish sea where lives were lost.

"I see the bad moon a risin'.  I see trouble on the way."

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 Subject: eek!

We just had an earthquake. I'm fairly freeked.

How's everyone's disaster recover strategy? I'll think I'll be reviewing
ours today.
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RE: what do i suppose to do ?

2001-03-01 Thread Rahul

call oracle support

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Re: EXPORT PROBLEM

2001-03-01 Thread GANTI . SIVA


Mala,

Please don't jump into conclusion about the bug.I also made a  mistake like
this before.What is the database version you are using.
If it is 8.1.6
can you please send your export script and your init.ora file so that i can do
something

Cheers
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RE: Help - Tuning SQL

2001-03-01 Thread John Hallas

Regarding the first point the easiest way to check is to run explain plan
fro the 2 statements and compare the results
On the second point the != issue
Guy Harrisons's excellent book Oracle SQL - High Performance Tuning states
"Oracle will not employ an index if the NOT EQUALS operator is employed."

Using > and < will use an index (other conditions permitting)

HTH

John

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I've got some simple questions on tuning SQL. Please reply with references,
I'm not looking for guesses.

*   If you have a SELECT statement with a WHERE clause and 2 AND
clauses, which one is processed first, the WHERE clause, the first AND
clause, or the second AND clause?
*   Is there any performance loss in using "<>" over "!="?

Michael Armstead
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RE: instance resource allocation

2001-03-01 Thread Steve Adams

Hi Grant,

I suppose those 4 processors and 4G of RAM are all on one system board so that
configuring the hardware as two distinct domains is not an option. Other than
purchasing more hardware, you may want to consider Sun's "Solaris Resource
Manager" which you can read about at
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/ds/ds-srm/. Unfortunately, I have no
experience with it so I can add anything to the marketing information. Maybe
others can.

Meanwhile, make sure that you are using priority_paging so that intense demand
for file system pages by one instance will not page out anonymous and executable
pages from the other.

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Group,

being fairly new to Oracle (and this list) I have what I consider (and
others may dare to differ) a valid question(running with 8i on Solaris
2.6)

How do you manage the division of resources between 2 instances located on
the same host?

We have two oracle 8i instances (and a number of other applications)
running on the same server.  One in particular is drastically hogging the
bulk of the server resources thus impeding the performance of the other
instance and related applications

As far as memory conflicts go, we're running an ad hoc query system on one
instance, which means it can get resource hungry and can only be
tuned/designed to an extent.  The issue is that the resources it can grab
should be limited, so they don't eat into a minimum resource allocation
that the other instance should get.

I am not aware of a way to use the DBMS_RESOURCE_MANAGER across two
instances.  Is there anything we can do here?  I'm not sure how we specify
how the two instances relate in terms of resourcesperhaps something in
the init.ora file?

Our Oracle environment resides on an exclusive E10K domain with 4 dedicated
(400mhz) processors, 4GB RAM.

TIA
Grant


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RE: 8.1.6 upgrade

2001-03-01 Thread Mark Leith

No, You could actually have those running on a workstation, mine does right
here.. Check under your services panel..

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Wow, that is the type of response I was looking for.  However, no one should
exactly sweat for me, this is a practice db, I would never do this to the
production until I practiced.  Also, it's not a server, it's NT Worksation,
so i don't beleive that I have any of those processes running.  Am I right?

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Hi Kevin,

We had this exact problem. It is a known issue, according to Oracle
"Support". They said it was caused by the following services being left
running during the patch:

MSDTS, SNMP and IIS Admin Services

You need to stop these before applying the patch.

Basically you're hosed. I hope it's not production (as it was with us!). The
"workaround" is to install /upgrade to 8.1.6.3 on another machine (our DBA
used his laptop), and copy all the dll's over.

Hope this helps!

Jerry

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> All dlls are showing.  If nt can find, why isn't oracle?  Is it possible
> that something in the registry got hosed and it is looking in the wrong
spot
> to execute?
>
> -Original Message-
> Housholder
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>
> if i remember correctly, on some of the patches for 8.1.6,
> some of the dlls had an ATTRIB of hidden...make sure
> to check folder option, show all types...as well as going out
> to DOS screen...and running ATTRIB *.*
>
> patrick
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> *>
> *>
> *>Hi all,
> *> Has anyone upgraded 8.1.6 EE on Windows NT to 8.1.6.3.0?  I
> *>have done
> *>exactly what oracle said to do and it appears as though it is
> *>missing a .dll
> *>and without the installation is hosed.  Do you have to upgrade to
> *>some other
> *>version first?  The instance I upgraded was 8.1.6.1, then when it
> *>crashed I
> *>tried a reinstall and it still gives me the same error.  Any help would
be
> *>great, I see nothing in the documentaition with the patch that says I
have
> *>to be at anything other than 8.1.6.
> *>
> *>Sincerely,
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RE: More slower CPUs vs. fewer faster CPUs

2001-03-01 Thread Steve Adams

Hi All,

For those that were following this thread, there are now two items on the Ixora
web site with comments from James Morle and Adrian Cockcroft on the matter. They
are both respected experts who have written books on scalability and performance
issues and so their opinions may be of interest to you. Please see
http://www.ixora.com.au/q+a/0102/28211720.htm and
http://www.ixora.com.au/q+a/0103/01164355.htm.

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Re: Revoke system privilege from user

2001-03-01 Thread Joseph S. Testa

revoke dba from user.

and if you're daring
grant all privileges to user
revoke drop any table from user

joe
Chuan Zhang wrote:
> 
> Hi, All,
> 
> I have granted DBA role to an user. But I don't want him  holding the
> "Drop Any Table" system privilege.
> 
> I did as follows:
> 
> 1. Connect as sysdba.
> 2. revoke drop any table from ABC-user;
> 
> And I got the error:" ORA-01952: system privileges not granted to
> 'ABC-user'".
> 
> Could anyone help me out?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuan
> 
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Re: what do i suppose to do ?

2001-03-01 Thread Joseph S. Testa

first, read the installation guide and follow the instructions, 

then AND ONLY THEN, if ou have problems, send a new email with the
EXACT problem, error msg and version of oracle and OS.

joe
Rajiv Ranjan wrote:
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> Hi guys,
> 
> I want to create a database with  oracle 8i in a standalone machine , what
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> 
> Thnax in advance
> Rajiv
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Re: Revoke system privilege from user

2001-03-01 Thread William Beilstein

And the next logical question is... If the user can't be trusted around the tables, 
why was he given the dba role at all. Just give him the specific priveledges he needs.

>>> B N RAMAMOHAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/01/01 02:35AM >>>
Hi Chuan,

You can not revoke Just drop any table from DBA Role,
since drop any tables is not granted explicitly.

What you can do is create a copy of DBA role and from
that role reovke drop any table table priv. Use this
new role to grant DBA without Drop any table priv.

Regards,
Mohan


On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Chuan Zhang wrote:

> Hi, All,
> 
> I have granted DBA role to an user. But I don't want him  holding the
> "Drop Any Table" system privilege.
> 
> I did as follows:
> 
> 1. Connect as sysdba.
> 2. revoke drop any table from ABC-user;
> 
> And I got the error:" ORA-01952: system privileges not granted to
> 'ABC-user'".
> 
> Could anyone help me out?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuan

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RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Last night on a game forum someone wrote that he was driving a truck
"between Microsoft buildings."  He was at a traffic light, and he thought
"Is it ever windy!  Look at those lights sway back and forth."  He noticed
that the truck in front of him was swaying too, he thought it must have been
some wicked wind tunnel effect between the buildings.

Then he noticed that the buildings were swaying too and people were running
out of them, he finally realized what was going on.

: )

He didn't mention anything about the Microsoft buildings collapsing.

I was thinking - a seismologist on CBC said that "the big one" would
probably be centered off-shore, so not to worry about the effects of this
one.  OK, if the "big one" is centered off-shore, all these measures
architects are taking in California to build quake-resistant buildings will
be for naught, it won't protect them from any tidal waves...

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Subject:RE: eek!

few miles south of Seattle, magnitude 6.2

Someone opined that it was cause by Windows crashing...


At 11:25 AM 2/28/01 -0800, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
>whoa, where?
>


Dennis Taylor

Niels is bohring.

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Offline - ORACLE ODBC Err.

2001-03-01 Thread Arul kumar

Hi,

One of our app. is  using ORACLE ODBC Driver for connecting to the db.
While using LONG columns in the Transactions, sometimes an error message
is shown as:

ORACLE ODBC DRIVER Error  ORA -010 ... INVALID ARGUMENTS..

Any idea ? Any suggestions??

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Oracle's generosity

2001-03-01 Thread Steve Adams

Hi All,

I am curious about the generosity of Club Oracle. I signed up as a Club Oracle
Gold member for $50 prior to OpenWorld last year just to get the $135 discount
on the OpenWorld registration fee. There was also a gift certificate at
Amazon.com and a gift pack thrown in. I chose the "Kids pack" containing adult
and child size Club Oracle T-shirts.

I was a little surprised about a month after OpenWorld when a second such gift
pack arrived. I was even more surprised today when the third identical gift pack
arrived. I've now got 6 Club Oracle T-shirts! Anyone else?

@   Regards,
@   Steve Adams
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OFF TOPIC: How to find lib search order for executable under Sun solaris

2001-03-01 Thread KC




Dear list,
 
In HP-UX, one can do a chatr to find out the lib 
search order of an executable, is there a corresponding command under Sun 
Solaris. Also, can someone tell me how nmliblist is used when relink Oracle 
under Sun?? Thanks
 
Kam
 
 


ORACLE_ON_NT !!!!

2001-03-01 Thread Jackson Dumas



I would like to find out how I can make a Oracle database running on
NT to start up automatically if there is a power failure or something
on the box without having to down that database. I read another
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problem is whether it's possible for me to incorporate this without
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Confusion about what partition a record is stored using hash partitions

2001-03-01 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

Using range partition you know exactly where the records are stored. I do
not understand how one knows
where the row is stored using hash partitioning. Can the optimizer still use
partitioning pruning with hash
partitions? Can someone explain how hash partitions work? My sources are
confusing.

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RE: Confusion about what partition a record is stored using hash

2001-03-01 Thread Toepke, Kevin M

Rick:

Check out the DBMS_UTILITY.GET_HASH_VALUE() function. This function will
tell you what partition the data is stored in.

Partition pruning can still be used.

Kevin


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partitions


Using range partition you know exactly where the records are stored. I do
not understand how one knows
where the row is stored using hash partitioning. Can the optimizer still use
partitioning pruning with hash
partitions? Can someone explain how hash partitions work? My sources are
confusing.

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Re: eek?

2001-03-01 Thread Vishak

Heard that a sequel is being made to the movie "Sleepless in Seattle"???

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RE: ORACLE_ON_NT !!!!

2001-03-01 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

What exactly are you asking?  What version of Oracle, What version of NT?
Who installed and created the DB?
Kev

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I would like to find out how I can make a Oracle database running on
NT to start up automatically if there is a power failure or something
on the box without having to down that database. I read another
article about Oradim and how to include the startup file if it's not
there on Services running on NT. Actually I did check that there is no
startup service for database to be automatically started. Now my
problem is whether it's possible for me to incorporate this without
having to get down time, because this is a 24X7 system and it will
take a long time before getting approval and things like those
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RE: what do i suppose to do ?

2001-03-01 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

I am confused, what don't you know how to do.  Install Oracle, make sure
before you start the installation you install the "Microsoft Loopback
Adapter" and networking other wise the installation will fail because Oracle
needs a protocol to communicate.
Kev

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call oracle support

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Re: Oracle Author in People Magazine

2001-03-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

remind me not to get interviewed by them... who wants everyone to know how 
old I am?  :)

Seeing-eye horses? that is cool -- gonna have to go find that issue.


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>Has anyone seen the recent February 26th issue of People Magazine?
>
>There was a three-page article on Don Burleson's side-activity: his
>seeing-eye horses. Very cool ; they even wear shoes.
>
>If you do not know Don, he authored the "High-performance Oracle8
>Tuning" book.
>
>Now we know from the article that he is 44 years old ;)
>
>Take care,
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>-Ari Kaplan
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Re: Can Oracle7 and Oracle8 co-exist?

2001-03-01 Thread manoharp

Absolutely no Problem. Two oracles of same or different versions
exist on AIX . In fact I have two oracles and two instances on
AIX ..Go ahead.with confidence

  Manoharan.



Ben Poels wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to install Oracle 8.1.7 on the same
> AIX 4.3.2 box which is already running
> Oracle 7.3.4.5. I will use a separate Oracle
> owner and Oracle home for the new 8.1.7 software.
>
> Has anybody had any problems with these two
> versions co-existing on the same platform?
> I have them both installed now but before
> I spend a lot of time trying to break it I
> thought I'd check to see whether or not this
> has worked out at other sites.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben Poels
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Re: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Cherie_Machler

Dennis,

Hope all is well there today.  I was a little
freaked when I heard about it on the radio
on the way home.

Glad you checked in to tell us you were
o.k.

Chere Machler
Gelco Information Network
In Minnesota where they don't have earthquakes




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At 11:17 AM 2/28/01 -0800, you wrote:
>We just had an earthquake. I'm fairly freeked.
>

See how freaked I was? I mis-spelled 'freaked'.


Dennis Taylor

Niels is bohring.

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RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Weaver, Walt

Nope, I was in the Air Force, flying KC135's out of Eielson AFB...

--Walt

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  True, nothing fell on my head with this one.  I will admit that I no
longer am calling this one fun.
I ran home at lunch and found quite a bit of damage to the brick entryway.
Of course, no earthquake
insurance, talk about needing diasaster recovery!  I need a bigger bank
balance!

  Walt, were you in Fairbanks to go to school?  I attending the university
there around that same time.

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OEM 2.2. installation blues

2001-03-01 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Hi,

Has anyone successfully installed OEM 2.2. on their machine?

My test server has 256M more RAM coming, but in the meantime I haven't given
up hope.  Although hope is dwindling... I only have 380M of RAM.

I started the installation process, then went to talk to someone.  When I
returned there was a Blue Screen of Death waiting for me.  

After powering off and powering on my machine, Peak Memory usage on my
machine is at 680M of memory!  Is this NT going crazy or does the Oracle
Universal Installer really need that much memory to install OEM 2.2.?  Could
there be a creeping memory leak in the Universal Installer? (make that a
galloping memory leak)

I allocated 1G of virtual memory, but I know from experience on this machine
at least that NT can't handle virtual memory very well, it keeps blue
screening when I exceed available physical memory by too much.

TIA
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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Re: Revoke system privilege from user

2001-03-01 Thread Ron Rogers

In order to "revoke" a privilege you have to "grant" it. All you did was grant the 
role "DBA" and the inherent privileges that role has. To accomplish what you want to 
do, create a new role with the privileges you want to grant and grant the role to the 
user or grant only the privileges you want to the user.
ROR mª¿ªm

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/01/01 12:25AM >>>
Hi, All,

I have granted DBA role to an user. But I don't want him  holding the
"Drop Any Table" system privilege.

I did as follows:

1. Connect as sysdba.
2. revoke drop any table from ABC-user;

And I got the error:" ORA-01952: system privileges not granted to
'ABC-user'".

Could anyone help me out?

Thanks,

Chuan


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Application Context

2001-03-01 Thread Andor Gyula

Hi Gurus !

Where can I find detailed information with examples about how to use application 
contexts?

Thanks in advance
Gyula

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RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Sean,

I read about that crash this morning -- horrifying!  And they are saying 
there is something like $1 billion worth of damage from the quake. My 
friends in Gresham (Oregon) felt it as well.

You going to become a vegetarian based on the animal diseases raging over 
there?

Dennis -- you okay? Family/home okay? Databases?

Rachel

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>Dennis,
>
>So how are things post earth quake?.  Did you need to invoke any of your DR
>Plan?.  If so, sharing your experience on this would be useful after the
>dust settles =:-0
>
>It's a hell of a wake up call to remind one why DR plans are important.
>
>The earthquake made news here in Ireland along with the impending foot &
>mouth disease crisis and even mentioned ahead of bad rail crash in England
>across the Irish sea where lives were lost.
>
>"I see the bad moon a risin'.  I see trouble on the way."
>
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>We just had an earthquake. I'm fairly freeked.
>
>How's everyone's disaster recover strategy? I'll think I'll be reviewing
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Re: Oracle's generosity

2001-03-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I only got two sets of the gift pack, both arriving within weeks of one 
another and when I signed up... hm, I feel so cheated :)

Rachel

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>Hi All,
>
>I am curious about the generosity of Club Oracle. I signed up as a Club 
>Oracle
>Gold member for $50 prior to OpenWorld last year just to get the $135 
>discount
>on the OpenWorld registration fee. There was also a gift certificate at
>Amazon.com and a gift pack thrown in. I chose the "Kids pack" containing 
>adult
>and child size Club Oracle T-shirts.
>
>I was a little surprised about a month after OpenWorld when a second such 
>gift
>pack arrived. I was even more surprised today when the third identical gift 
>pack
>arrived. I've now got 6 Club Oracle T-shirts! Anyone else?
>
>@   Regards,
>@   Steve Adams
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RE: Oracle Author in People Magazine

2001-03-01 Thread Carle, William T (Bill), NLCIO

Rachel, you're only 25. Why would you care?


Bill Carle
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remind me not to get interviewed by them... who wants everyone to know how 
old I am?  :)

Seeing-eye horses? that is cool -- gonna have to go find that issue.


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>Has anyone seen the recent February 26th issue of People Magazine?
>
>There was a three-page article on Don Burleson's side-activity: his
>seeing-eye horses. Very cool ; they even wear shoes.
>
>If you do not know Don, he authored the "High-performance Oracle8
>Tuning" book.
>
>Now we know from the article that he is 44 years old ;)
>
>Take care,
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Re: Oracle's Updates Subscription Service

2001-03-01 Thread Ruth Gramolini

NO!
RBG
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> Does anyone know  - will I still have access to Metalink if I will not pay
for the support?
>
> TIA,
> Michael Netrusov,
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> > Cool, thanks for the info Sarah, I hadn't seen that split.  I'll check
it
> > when I get our next bill.  I will be glad to be able to only pay for
> > upgrades which I use, and not the support, which I have not used in over
5
> > years.
> >
> >
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> > -Original Message-
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> > Walt,
> >
> > Last summer we noticed our support bill was split into two pieces--one
for
> > support and one for upgrades.  You can still buy both.  I didn't notice
that
> > it was a lot more in total than before, but it does give a cost cutter a
> > chance to say we only need one of those pieces!
> >
> > Sarah Satterthwaite
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> >
> > "Weaver, Walt" wrote:
> > >
> > > Say, is it just me or has the cost of the Updates Subscription Service
> > gone
> > > up considerably in the past six months or so?
> > >
> > > We're currently pricing out what it'll cost us to purchase 8.1.7
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> > > Whatever happened to those hazy, golden, halcyon days when upgrades
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Re: Can Oracle7 and Oracle8 co-exist?

2001-03-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I have 7.3.4, 8.0.5 and 8.1.6 running on the same Sun box -- no problems

same oracle owner, different ORACLE_HOMEs

and shell scripts that are named for each of my database instances that set 
up my environment to point to the proper ORACLE_SID, ORACLE_HOME, etc etc so 
I can switch easily between databases

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>Absolutely no Problem. Two oracles of same or different versions
>exist on AIX . In fact I have two oracles and two instances on
>AIX ..Go ahead.with confidence
>
>  Manoharan.
>
>
>
>Ben Poels wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to install Oracle 8.1.7 on the same
> > AIX 4.3.2 box which is already running
> > Oracle 7.3.4.5. I will use a separate Oracle
> > owner and Oracle home for the new 8.1.7 software.
> >
> > Has anybody had any problems with these two
> > versions co-existing on the same platform?
> > I have them both installed now but before
> > I spend a lot of time trying to break it I
> > thought I'd check to see whether or not this
> > has worked out at other sites.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ben Poels
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RE: OID questions

2001-03-01 Thread Chuck Hamilton
 Thanks for all the information Greg. One more question. What's an oracle names proxy? I thought names was going away entirely in 9i.
Chuck Hamilton
  "Nelson, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Failover information in Oracle Internet Directory (OID) is entered like Net8configuration information. You can import the exact information that is inyour TNSNAMES.ORA into OID, so if you can code failovers in TNSNAMES.ORA youcan put it in OID as well. So you would handle failovers using OID thru acombination of how you set up your databases and Net8.You will also want to make sure that you have a failover for the OIDdatabase if you decide to use it. If it is your connection server and itisn't up clients obviously can't connect. You can place failover options inSQLNET.ORA and/or the LDAP.ORA file that is used by OID, such as havingmultiple OID databases or Advanced Replication.I have learned the hard way (not on MetaSlop) that OID is not available onParallel Server yet so thats not an option.There is no concise or clear directions !
!
available that I know of to get OIDinstalled and working (at least from Oracle). The steps to install and getOID working are found not only in the OID manual. They involve installingOID from the Enterprise Edition CD under Management Infrastructure whichcreates an OID database or populates one of your choosing, starting OIDservices, using Oracle Directory Manager to create your particular LDAPcontext (i.e. banknorth.com), Net8 Configuration Assistant for adding OracleAdministration context under your context, and Net8 Assistant for addingentries from TNSNAMES.ORA under your context. Entries can also be bulkloaded by Oracle scripts which I haven't done yet. Piecing it all together the first time took me a week because of the lack ofclear directions. I documented it myself and then 2 months later did acomplete install on another server in an hour using my own documentation.Migrating from Oracle Names would undoubtedly i!
!
nvolve some different steps(probably at my TNSNAMES import). There will be an Oracle Names proxy in9i.After saying all this I believe it will all be worth it once it comes timeto cofigure hundreds of Oracle clients. Also, since OID is an LDAPdirectory it will have many other uses as well. Its too bad that Oraclecouldn't have put together clear documentation on installing and using itbut that's nothing new.Greg Nelson[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:01 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LI'm considering the switch from Oracle Names to Oracle Internet Directory.One feature I liked about names was the dynamic discovery. Does dynamicdiscovery also work with OID? For example if one of my databases fails overto another machine in it's cluster, the names server is automaticall!
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yupdated by the listener as soon as the database starts up on the newmachine. Will that also happen with OID? If not, can it easily be scripted(korn shell).Also, is there a consicise, easy to follow reference, that tells you how toadd a database to OID so you can use OIS to resolve a name to it? I've gonethrough the entire OID manual and found nothing on the subject._ Do You Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Nelson, GregINET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spell!
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RE: * Oracle DBAs Needed in the Virginia Beach VA Area..

2001-03-01 Thread Anne Yu

Hi List Friends, 

I have server A: Solaris 5.8, RDBMS 8.1.7.0.0 and server B: Solaris 5.8 &
the RDBMS was upgraded from 8.0.5 to 8.1.7. 

RDBMS 8.1.7 is my recovery manager target database and the other is my
catalog database. 
When I try to register this 8.1.7 target database to this upgraded 8.1.7
catalog database,  I am getting:


RMAN> connect target sys/password@target_db 
RMAN> connected to target database: CATALOG
RMAN> connected to recovery catalog database
RMAN-06186: PL/SQL package SYS.DBMS_RCVMAN version 08.00.05 in TARGET
database i 
s too old 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS === 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-0058: error encountered while parsing input commands
RMAN-01006: error signalled during parse
 

What can I do to correct this problem, IF ANY? 


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RE: OEM 2.2. installation blues

2001-03-01 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I am thinking now that perhaps memory utilization peak was called by NT
itself, which dumps its memory contents when there is a crash.

De-installed OEM 2.2., will do Typical and then use Custom to add additional
pieces one by one, since using Custom to do the whole thing crashes my
machine.

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)



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Subject:OEM 2.2. installation blues

Hi,

Has anyone successfully installed OEM 2.2. on their machine?

My test server has 256M more RAM coming, but in the meantime I
haven't given
up hope.  Although hope is dwindling... I only have 380M of RAM.

I started the installation process, then went to talk to someone.
When I
returned there was a Blue Screen of Death waiting for me.  

After powering off and powering on my machine, Peak Memory usage on
my
machine is at 680M of memory!  Is this NT going crazy or does the
Oracle
Universal Installer really need that much memory to install OEM
2.2.?  Could
there be a creeping memory leak in the Universal Installer? (make
that a
galloping memory leak)

I allocated 1G of virtual memory, but I know from experience on this
machine
at least that NT can't handle virtual memory very well, it keeps
blue
screening when I exceed available physical memory by too much.

TIA
Patrice Boivin
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RE: OFF TOPIC: How to find lib search order for executable under

2001-03-01 Thread Brian MacLean



ldd -s 
$ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle

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  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: OFF 
  TOPIC: How to find lib search order for executable under Sun 
  solaris
  Dear list,
   
  In HP-UX, one can do a chatr to find out the lib 
  search order of an executable, is there a corresponding command under Sun 
  Solaris. Also, can someone tell me how nmliblist is used when relink Oracle 
  under Sun?? Thanks
   
  Kam
   
   


DBVerify showing corruption on every block with 8,.1.7

2001-03-01 Thread Murali Vallath


Hello Everyone,

Recently we installed Oracle Enterprise Edition 8.1.7 on all our database 
servers.
We have created new databases, as well as upgraded existing databases
from 8.1.5 to 8.1.7.  While implementing RMAN on databases,
RMAN detected block corruption. Initially, it was related to a database
conversion from an older version 8.1.5 to 8.1.7 issue. This was due to the 
fact
that the corruption was first detected on the converted databases.

However, the same behaviour has been noted on other databases consistently.
Since other databases are now showing the same symptons, we have used the
(dbv) database verify utility to look at various files within each of our 
databases.
The output indicates block corruption in all files.  Please note that this 
utility
also indicates the same corruption on all Oracle database files on other 
Tru64 servers.

Operations on these databases appear to be normal other than RMAN performing 
checksum
verifications.  Databases can be shutdown and restarted.

Meta link document states that this is an operating system corruption 
problem
when running the 5.0a, or 5.1 o/s versions of Tru64.  Our SA has confirmed 
the following:
advfs.mod checksum/byte count is 44646/1168.  He advises based on Oracle 
documentation:
apply the new advfs.mod and move an odbflchk to the /sys/BINARY area and 
recompile the kernel with changes.


Can you confirm this?

Also, what actions do we need to take to ensure the integrity of our 
databases?



The following are errors produced in the alert logs:
Corrupt block seq: 12 blocknum=12097.
Bad header found during backing up archived log
Data in bad block - seq:12. bno:12100. time:421846304
beg:336 cks:0
calculated check value: 10158
Reread of seq=12, blocknum=12097, 
file=/u03/oraarchive/dbname/dbname_0001_12.arc, found same
corrupt data

The following are errors reported by doing a dbv on Oracle files:
Page 76305 is marked corrupt
***
Corrupt block relative dba: 0x00012a11 (file 0, block 76305)
Bad header found during dbv:
Data in bad block -
type: 0 format: 0 rdba: 0x1c1c19c3
last change scn: 0x0005.47000106 seq: 0x16 flg: 0x00
consistency value in tail: 0x1c1c19c3
check value in block header: 0xff00, block checksum disabled
spare1: 0xff, spare2: 0x4, spare3: 0xc304
***

***

TAR#  13320267.600 Oracle Consultant Advised:

Corrective Actions Taken:

DBA - changed /etc/oratab file - DO NOT START DB's on server reboot

DBA - All DB's - Terminiate all user sessions
DBA - alter db's enable restricted mode
DBA - alter system switch logfile
DBA - alter system checkpoint
DBA - alter database backup controlfile to trace;

SA - Installed patch set QAR84601_v50a_b116.tar.Z

DBA - Relink 8.1.5 dbv utility:
  $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/lib
  make -f ins_rdbms.mk idv

  Error "Don't know how to make idv" STOP.

DBA - Performed dbv on 8.1.7 database files:  errors messages as follows:

Page 1321 is marked corrupt
***
Corrupt block relative dba: 0x0529 (file 0, block 1321)
Completely zero block found during dbv:

Page 1322 is influx - most likely media corrupt
***
Corrupt block relative dba: 0x052a (file 0, block 1322)
Fractured block found during dbv:
Data in bad block -
type: 0 format: 0 rdba: 0x
last change scn: 0x. seq: 0x0 flg: 0x00
consistency value in tail: 0x
check value in block header: 0x0, block checksum disabled
spare1: 0x0, spare2: 0x0, spare3: 0x0
***


DBA - Performed sys/BINARY/odbflchk on several DB control files and redo 
logs

server.???.com:/u03/oradata/> /sys/BINARY/odbflchk 
/u03/oradata/dbname/redo_g1r2.log

Oracle Database File Checker - V1.4

Copyright (c) 2001, Oracle Corporation.  All Rights Reserved.

Checking file: /u03/oradata//redo_g1r2.log
Blocksize: 1024
Oracle filesize: 20971520 bytes, 20480 Oracle blocks
Oracle file header processed successfully.


.???.com:/u04/oradata/> /sys/BINARY/odbflchk 
/u03/oradata//control_02.ctl

Oracle Database File Checker - V1.4

Copyright (c) 2001, Oracle Corporation.  All Rights Reserved.

Checking file: /u03/oradata//control_02.ctl
Blocksize: 8192
Oracle filesize: 7438336 bytes, 908 Oracle blocks
Oracle file header processed successfully.
Scanning blocks: 100% Completed.

Done: Processed  908 blocks; no blocks are affected
  for file /u03/oradata//control_02.ctl


DBA - Peformed sys/BINARY/odbflchk on datafiles and returned the following:

Checking file: /u03/oradata/???/???_tools01_001.dbf
Oracle File #: 2
Blocksize: 4096
Oracle filesize: 52428800 bytes, 12800 Oracle blocks
Oracle file header processed successfully.
Scanning blocks: 100% Completed.

Done: Processed12800 blocks; no blocks are affected
  for file /u03/oradata/???/???_tools01_001.dbf


Question:  The dbverify and odbflchk utilities return conflicting results:
   How should we proceed?
   What is the integrity state of the d

ORU-10288 error, line length overflow.

2001-03-01 Thread Manasa Rao

All,
I am getting this following error, when I execute a procedure.  And I made 
sure my linesize is 2000, and all variables are of good size. But still 
don't understand the source of this error. Appreciate any help.
Thanks
Radhika.


ORA-2: ORU-10028: line length overflow, limit of 255 bytes per line
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_OUTPUT", line 99
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_OUTPUT", line 65
ORA-06512: at "SECADMIN.ICPASSECSELECT", line 27
ORA-06512: at line 1


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DBWR slaves in NT???

2001-03-01 Thread Raghu Kota

Hi Friends

I have toad tool for my NT database

DBWR Average Scan Depth 1024  **Number of DB_Files too high??

I got doubt due to from v$waitstat I got data block waits some time 8000 and 
some times higher number. How can I increase the DBWR slaves on NT?? 
although I set in development box, How can I see as background process 
really working for me??

I have my datafile and indexes same on E disk drive, My hit ratios are okay, 
My import is killing me.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: Application Context

2001-03-01 Thread Manasa Rao

Check this document:
http://osi.oracle.com/~tkyte/article2/index.htm
Good overall example of Application contexts and Fine Grain Access Control.


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>Hi Gurus !
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>Where can I find detailed information with examples about how to use 
>application contexts?
>
>Thanks in advance
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RE: ORU-10288 error, line length overflow.

2001-03-01 Thread Dasko, Dan

I'd guess that dbms_output has a 255 byte line limit regardless of other
parameters.

Dan

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All,
I am getting this following error, when I execute a procedure.  And I made 
sure my linesize is 2000, and all variables are of good size. But still 
don't understand the source of this error. Appreciate any help.
Thanks
Radhika.


ORA-2: ORU-10028: line length overflow, limit of 255 bytes per line
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_OUTPUT", line 99
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_OUTPUT", line 65
ORA-06512: at "SECADMIN.ICPASSECSELECT", line 27
ORA-06512: at line 1


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BFILE vs. BLOB

2001-03-01 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: BFILE vs. BLOB





Good morning all, 


I have to start storing binary files in our database somehow.  I'm reading up on BFILES and BLOBs. 


Seems like one of the differences is that BLOBs are manipulated within the database, and BFILEs are not.  Can anyone comment on how fast (or not fast) the DBMS_LOB. routines are when operating in fairly large BLOBs?  I'm leaning toward BFILEs to avoid having the database do anything other than just keep a pointer to the file and keep the transaction length as short as possible.  FWIW, I'll only need to accept a file and store it, and return it back to the app when requested.  

Another question:  Anyone using temporary BLOBs (8i)? 


Any comments, gotchas, boogie men are appreciated.


Thanks


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reset control, redo, logs etc

2001-03-01 Thread Leyden, Joseph

If my database was not shutdown before a cold
backup was made, how do I bring it back up
skipping (or resetting) ctl, headers etc.
Is this possible?

TIA
joe
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Re: AIX volume group backup?

2001-03-01 Thread Ruth Gramolini

It must be something about system managers, it makes them feel useful to do
this.  However, unless your databases are down when they are done, these
backups will be useless for recovery,  You need to have online or cold
backups of your databases when you are sure the databases are in the proper
state.

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we have 2 AIX servers at a remote hosting location.  The host managers
insist on doing volume group backups once a month, for all volumes on each
server.

Why would they insist on doing this?

What purpose would these volume backups serve in a recovery situation?



Thx.

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RE:Invoking svrmgrl

2001-03-01 Thread GANTI . SIVA

svrmgrl

RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Minnesota RULES!!  I love minnesota

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Dennis,

Hope all is well there today.  I was a little
freaked when I heard about it on the radio
on the way home.

Glad you checked in to tell us you were
o.k.

Chere Machler
Gelco Information Network
In Minnesota where they don't have earthquakes




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At 11:17 AM 2/28/01 -0800, you wrote:
>We just had an earthquake. I'm fairly freeked.
>

See how freaked I was? I mis-spelled 'freaked'.


Dennis Taylor

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RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Dennis Taylor

At 10:46 AM 3/1/01 +0100, O'Neill, Sean wrote:
>So how are things post earth quake?.  Did you need to invoke any of your DR
>Plan?.  If so, sharing your experience on this would be useful after the
>dust settles =:-0

Nah. not enough damage here, except to my nerves. Seattle and Olympia
Washington got the real effects.


Dennis Taylor

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OAS and iAS file size comparisons

2001-03-01 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

OAS 4.0.8.2 for NT was 121M in size, zipped.

iAS for NT is two CDs in size, 569,609K + 403,131K.

What did they put in this new version that is so HUGE?

Unbelievable.

How big will Oracle 9i be, I wonder.

Patrice Boivin
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RE: Oracle Author in People Magazine

2001-03-01 Thread Rocky Welch

The latter is possible, Rachel. As a matter of fact I'm gearing up for the
best 25th birthday I've had yet on Saturday. ;o)

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RE: Oracle's Updates Subscription Service

2001-03-01 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: RE: Oracle's Updates Subscription Service



Interesting stuff. (Especially about the ruminants.)   When you 
say mysql does not scale, 
have 
you run into hard walls? if so, what is the data size, or is it the 
transaction/activity rate
that 
tanksi'd be interested in hearing where, if at all, you are "hitting the 
knee".
 
I'd 
love to get out there someday. Absolutely beautiful 
country.
 
thanks 
for the snapshot!

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  RE: Oracle's Updates Subscription Service
  Well 
  Ross, Our campus is out in the country (just about everywhere in Montana is 
  out in the country) and we are, indeed, surrounded by docile ruminants. I'd 
  like to say that during our off-time we go out and gaze lovingly at their 
  udders, but there are other things we prefer to gaze at 
  lovingly.
   
  Of 
  course, we have no problems doing online dairy backups around here. 
  :>)
   
  We 
  use MySQL here and yes it's tunable. There's even word out on the street that 
  soon MySQL may support the concept of a transaction. What a 
  concept.
   
  MySQL has its place, but it's causing us no end of 
  pain here. It doesn't scale well enough to support what we're doing. That's 
  why we're painfully biting the bullet and paying the big bucks for 
  Oracle.
   
  --Walt Weaver
    Bozeman, Montana, USA
   
   
  
-Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross 
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Walt, you have just shattered my picture of you as a gentle 
man surrounded by docile ruminants, never uddering a 
discouraging word. 
Yes, it's amazing, the price of the software. My line to 
folks is: "For your money, Oracle is the best 
database...if it were my money, it would be almost 
anything but.." 
MySQL *is* tunable.could be fun 
-Original Message- From: 
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Say, is it just me or has the cost of the Updates 
Subscription Service gone up considerably in the 
past six months or so? 
We're currently pricing out what it'll cost us to purchase 
8.1.7 Standard Edition and the numbers we're getting 
are a heck of a lot higher than they were in 
November. 
Has the cost of CD-ROM's gone up that much? Is the economy 
now in an inflationary period? Where's Allen 
Greenspan when you need him? 
Whatever happened to those hazy, golden, halcyon days when 
upgrades were included in product support? 

Sometimes, Oracle just sucks. I'm seriously considering 
getting on track for a MySQL 
certification.   :>) 
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MTS questions

2001-03-01 Thread Steff Gonos

For MTS experienced users;

I am installing 8.1.7 on Digital Unix (compaq).
Received the following error when I tried to create
an instance.  ORA-600 ( 16305).  Metalink says that
its a failure from the init.ora parameters but nothing 
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RE: Oracle Author in People Magazine

2001-03-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I must be the oldest 25 around then... or else I've been 25 for more years 
than I care to remember :)

but I do thank you for the compliment


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>Rachel, you're only 25. Why would you care?
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>remind me not to get interviewed by them... who wants everyone to know how
>old I am?  :)
>
>Seeing-eye horses? that is cool -- gonna have to go find that issue.
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> >Has anyone seen the recent February 26th issue of People Magazine?
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> >There was a three-page article on Don Burleson's side-activity: his
> >seeing-eye horses. Very cool ; they even wear shoes.
> >
> >If you do not know Don, he authored the "High-performance Oracle8
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> >Now we know from the article that he is 44 years old ;)
> >
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RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Mark Leith

As a part of my daily calls yesterday - imagine my shock when I phoned for a
regular contact of mine - to find that he was IN the train crash!!! He came
out OK though according to the receptionist, although he did lose his mobile
phone :( I just feel for the families of the ones that didn't make it.

I'm also about 25 miles away from a case of Foot & Mouth!

Sean, you can see the bad moon rising? I got a full one looming over head:)

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Sean,

I read about that crash this morning -- horrifying!  And they are saying
there is something like $1 billion worth of damage from the quake. My
friends in Gresham (Oregon) felt it as well.

You going to become a vegetarian based on the animal diseases raging over
there?

Dennis -- you okay? Family/home okay? Databases?

Rachel

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>Dennis,
>
>So how are things post earth quake?.  Did you need to invoke any of your DR
>Plan?.  If so, sharing your experience on this would be useful after the
>dust settles =:-0
>
>It's a hell of a wake up call to remind one why DR plans are important.
>
>The earthquake made news here in Ireland along with the impending foot &
>mouth disease crisis and even mentioned ahead of bad rail crash in England
>across the Irish sea where lives were lost.
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>"I see the bad moon a risin'.  I see trouble on the way."
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>We just had an earthquake. I'm fairly freeked.
>
>How's everyone's disaster recover strategy? I'll think I'll be reviewing
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RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Dennis Taylor

At 06:21 AM 3/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Dennis -- you okay? Family/home okay? Databases?
>

People are a little shaken (yuk yuk), but that's all. We're considering
adequate punishment for our "singer".


Dennis Taylor

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RE: Oracle's Updates Subscription Service

2001-03-01 Thread Henry Poras

I heard one reason that was done is because one of those costs is tax
deductable, but not the other (don't remember which).

Henry

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Cool, thanks for the info Sarah, I hadn't seen that split.  I'll check it
when I get our next bill.  I will be glad to be able to only pay for
upgrades which I use, and not the support, which I have not used in over 5
years.



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Walt,

Last summer we noticed our support bill was split into two pieces--one for
support and one for upgrades.  You can still buy both.  I didn't notice that
it was a lot more in total than before, but it does give a cost cutter a
chance to say we only need one of those pieces!

Sarah Satterthwaite
Case, Shiller, Weiss, Inc
Cambridge, MA

"Weaver, Walt" wrote:
> 
> Say, is it just me or has the cost of the Updates Subscription Service
gone
> up considerably in the past six months or so?
> 
> We're currently pricing out what it'll cost us to purchase 8.1.7 Standard
> Edition and the numbers we're getting are a heck of a lot higher than they
> were in November.
> 
> Has the cost of CD-ROM's gone up that much? Is the economy now in an
> inflationary period? Where's Allen Greenspan when you need him?
> 
> Whatever happened to those hazy, golden, halcyon days when upgrades were
> included in product support?
> 
> Sometimes, Oracle just sucks. I'm seriously considering getting on track
for
> a MySQL certification.   :>)
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RE: ORU-10288 error, line length overflow.

2001-03-01 Thread Trassens, Christian

Increase your buffer output. Like this:

set serverout on size 

or 

dbms_output.enable();



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> All,
> I am getting this following error, when I execute a procedure.  And I made
> 
> sure my linesize is 2000, and all variables are of good size. But still 
> don't understand the source of this error. Appreciate any help.
> Thanks
> Radhika.
> 
> 
> ORA-2: ORU-10028: line length overflow, limit of 255 bytes per line
> ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_OUTPUT", line 99
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Invoking svrmgrl

2001-03-01 Thread Witold Iwaniec

Hi

In one of my applications, that connects to Oracle database, I 
generate a package and have to compile it. The platform of the 
application - Windows while database can be on a remote machine.

I know that from my application I can call sqlplus to compile the 
package. For example:

sqlplus user/password@my_db @c:\temp\my_script.sql

but I think in some minimal installations you may not have sqlplus 
installed. 

I thought about calling svrmgrl but I don't think it accepts command 
line parameters. I tried to write small batch file:

svrmgrl
connect user/password@my_db
@c:\temp\my_script.sql

But it is not going to work -  the problem is that the commands are 
executed as three separate commands while I need to write the 
batch file so that the connect... and @c:\tmp\... commands are 
executed by server manager. Can anyone show me the correct 
way to write the batch file?

Or maybe there is another way - in my application I am already 
connected to the database using ODBC API. 

Thanks

Witold





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Re: Application Context

2001-03-01 Thread Dennis Taylor

At 07:31 AM 3/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Check this document:
>http://osi.oracle.com/~tkyte/article2/index.htm

page cannot be found.


Dennis Taylor

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RE: Oracle Author in People Magazine

2001-03-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Happy "25th" in advance!


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>The latter is possible, Rachel. As a matter of fact I'm gearing up for the
>best 25th birthday I've had yet on Saturday. ;o)
>
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> > but I do thank you for the compliment
> >
> >
> > >From: "Carle, William T (Bill), NLCIO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >Rachel, you're only 25. Why would you care?
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Re:RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread dgoulet

Hummm!!  Must be a week for disasters.  We've had a multi DB development box
crashing for the first 3 days of this week.  Right now the HP rep is in there
with his head inside the chassis & parts all over the place outside!!  Sure that
earthquake was in the NorthWest?  Looks like splattered quite a bit over here
too!!  Thank God tomorrow's Friday! :-)

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Mark Leith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   3/1/2001 7:45 AM

As a part of my daily calls yesterday - imagine my shock when I phoned for a
regular contact of mine - to find that he was IN the train crash!!! He came
out OK though according to the receptionist, although he did lose his mobile
phone :( I just feel for the families of the ones that didn't make it.

I'm also about 25 miles away from a case of Foot & Mouth!

Sean, you can see the bad moon rising? I got a full one looming over head:)

-Original Message-
Carmichael
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 02:22
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Sean,

I read about that crash this morning -- horrifying!  And they are saying
there is something like $1 billion worth of damage from the quake. My
friends in Gresham (Oregon) felt it as well.

You going to become a vegetarian based on the animal diseases raging over
there?

Dennis -- you okay? Family/home okay? Databases?

Rachel

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>Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:50:19 -0800
>
>Dennis,
>
>So how are things post earth quake?.  Did you need to invoke any of your DR
>Plan?.  If so, sharing your experience on this would be useful after the
>dust settles =:-0
>
>It's a hell of a wake up call to remind one why DR plans are important.
>
>The earthquake made news here in Ireland along with the impending foot &
>mouth disease crisis and even mentioned ahead of bad rail crash in England
>across the Irish sea where lives were lost.
>
>"I see the bad moon a risin'.  I see trouble on the way."
>
>Sean :)
>
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>"They tell me nothing, but expect me to know everything!"
>
>
>--
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>  From: Dennis Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:20:18 -0800
>  Subject: eek!
>
>We just had an earthquake. I'm fairly freeked.
>
>How's everyone's disaster recover strategy? I'll think I'll be reviewing
>ours today.
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RE: Invoking svrmgrl

2001-03-01 Thread Witold Iwaniec


Thanks for the reply. It does the job.

I didn't try to invoke svrmgrl with script on the command line.
I tried:
svrmgrl connect system/manager@my_db

and the command failed with Server Manager Command Line error...

Thanks

Witold


On 1 Mar 2001, at 19:45, âÅÌÏ× éÇÏÒØ éÏÓÉÆÏ×É   Þ wrote:

> s1.bat
> 
> svrmgrl @s2.sql
> 
>
> s2.sql
> =
> connect system/manager
> @my_sql.sql
> 
>
> my_sql.sql
> 
> select * from scott.emp
> /
> exit
> /
> 
>
> >  -Original Message-
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> > Hi
> >
> > In one of my applications, that connects to Oracle database, I
> > generate a package and have to compile it. The platform of the
> > application - Windows while database can be on a remote machine.
> >
> > I know that from my application I can call sqlplus to compile the
> > package. For example:
> >
> > sqlplus user/password@my_db @c:\temp\my_script.sql
> >
> > but I think in some minimal installations you may not have sqlplus
> > installed.
> >
> > I thought about calling svrmgrl but I don't think it accepts command
> > line parameters. I tried to write small batch file:
> >
> > svrmgrl
> > connect user/password@my_db
> > @c:\temp\my_script.sql
> >
> > But it is not going to work -  the problem is that the commands are
> > executed as three separate commands while I need to write the
> > batch file so that the connect... and @c:\tmp\... commands are
> > executed by server manager. Can anyone show me the correct
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> >
> > Or maybe there is another way - in my application I am already
> > connected to the database using ODBC API.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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RE: * Oracle DBAs Needed in the Virginia Beach VA Area..

2001-03-01 Thread Janardhana Babu

Issue Upgrade Catalog command in your recovery catalog database.

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Hi List Friends, 

I have server A: Solaris 5.8, RDBMS 8.1.7.0.0 and server B: Solaris 5.8 &
the RDBMS was upgraded from 8.0.5 to 8.1.7. 

RDBMS 8.1.7 is my recovery manager target database and the other is my
catalog database. 
When I try to register this 8.1.7 target database to this upgraded 8.1.7
catalog database,  I am getting:


RMAN> connect target sys/password@target_db 
RMAN> connected to target database: CATALOG
RMAN> connected to recovery catalog database
RMAN-06186: PL/SQL package SYS.DBMS_RCVMAN version 08.00.05 in TARGET
database i 
s too old 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS === 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-0058: error encountered while parsing input commands
RMAN-01006: error signalled during parse
 

What can I do to correct this problem, IF ANY? 


many thanks,


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RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Don't shake her up too much...

; )

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)



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Subject:RE: eek!

At 06:21 AM 3/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Dennis -- you okay? Family/home okay? Databases?
>

People are a little shaken (yuk yuk), but that's all. We're
considering
adequate punishment for our "singer".


Dennis Taylor

let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

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RE: OAS and iAS file size comparisons

2001-03-01 Thread Seley, Linda

Everything but the kitchen sink..  9iAS includes Apache, Forms Server,
Reports Server, Portal, DB Cache, Discoverer Server, Queue Manager, Wireless
if you want it, and possibly others I've left out.  Consider yourself lucky
if you only had 2 CDs, we (Solaris) had 3.

Linda
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OAS 4.0.8.2 for NT was 121M in size, zipped.

iAS for NT is two CDs in size, 569,609K + 403,131K.

What did they put in this new version that is so HUGE?

Unbelievable.

How big will Oracle 9i be, I wonder.

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

thank goodness your friend is alright.

that wreck was a horror from what I read. Those poor families.

>From: "Mark Leith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 07:45:27 -0800
>
>As a part of my daily calls yesterday - imagine my shock when I phoned for 
>a
>regular contact of mine - to find that he was IN the train crash!!! He came
>out OK though according to the receptionist, although he did lose his 
>mobile
>phone :( I just feel for the families of the ones that didn't make it.
>
>I'm also about 25 miles away from a case of Foot & Mouth!
>
>Sean, you can see the bad moon rising? I got a full one looming over head:)
>
>-Original Message-
>Carmichael
>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 02:22
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>Sean,
>
>I read about that crash this morning -- horrifying!  And they are saying
>there is something like $1 billion worth of damage from the quake. My
>friends in Gresham (Oregon) felt it as well.
>
>You going to become a vegetarian based on the animal diseases raging over
>there?
>
>Dennis -- you okay? Family/home okay? Databases?
>
>Rachel
>
> >From: "O'Neill, Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >Subject: RE: eek!
> >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:50:19 -0800
> >
> >Dennis,
> >
> >So how are things post earth quake?.  Did you need to invoke any of your 
>DR
> >Plan?.  If so, sharing your experience on this would be useful after the
> >dust settles =:-0
> >
> >It's a hell of a wake up call to remind one why DR plans are important.
> >
> >The earthquake made news here in Ireland along with the impending foot &
> >mouth disease crisis and even mentioned ahead of bad rail crash in 
>England
> >across the Irish sea where lives were lost.
> >
> >"I see the bad moon a risin'.  I see trouble on the way."
> >
> >Sean :)
> >
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> >  From: Dennis Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:20:18 -0800
> >  Subject: eek!
> >
> >We just had an earthquake. I'm fairly freeked.
> >
> >How's everyone's disaster recover strategy? I'll think I'll be reviewing
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RE: ORU-10288 error, line length overflow.

2001-03-01 Thread Vadim Gorbounov

Nope,
This will not work. Line length is limited to 255 and couldnt be increased.
Buffer size is something different.
Consider splitting your output into several dbms_output.put_line's
Vadim Gorbounov
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Increase your buffer output. Like this:

set serverout on size 

or 

dbms_output.enable();



> -Mensaje original-
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> Asunto:   ORU-10288 error, line length overflow.
> 
> All,
> I am getting this following error, when I execute a procedure.  And I made
> 
> sure my linesize is 2000, and all variables are of good size. But still 
> don't understand the source of this error. Appreciate any help.
> Thanks
> Radhika.
> 
> 
> ORA-2: ORU-10028: line length overflow, limit of 255 bytes per line
> ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_OUTPUT", line 99
> ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_OUTPUT", line 65
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RE: reset control, redo, logs etc

2001-03-01 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: reset control, redo, logs etc





If your database was not shut down, it was not a cold backup. 
If your tablespaces were not in backup mode, good luck.  Everything will be out of sync.  


I suggest taking a true cold backup before doing anything else if you want to save this database. Start with SHUTTING IT DOWN.

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Subject: reset control, redo, logs etc



If my database was not shutdown before a cold
backup was made, how do I bring it back up
skipping (or resetting) ctl, headers etc.
Is this possible?


TIA
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Re: Invoking svrmgrl

2001-03-01 Thread Mike Killough

Try putting the connect in the script:

shut.sql =
connect internal
shutdown immediate;
exit;

svrmgrl @shut



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>Hi
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>In one of my applications, that connects to Oracle database, I
>generate a package and have to compile it. The platform of the
>application - Windows while database can be on a remote machine.
>
>I know that from my application I can call sqlplus to compile the
>package. For example:
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>sqlplus user/password@my_db @c:\temp\my_script.sql
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>installed.
>
>I thought about calling svrmgrl but I don't think it accepts command
>line parameters. I tried to write small batch file:
>
>svrmgrl
>connect user/password@my_db
>@c:\temp\my_script.sql
>
>But it is not going to work -  the problem is that the commands are
>executed as three separate commands while I need to write the
>batch file so that the connect... and @c:\tmp\... commands are
>executed by server manager. Can anyone show me the correct
>way to write the batch file?
>
>Or maybe there is another way - in my application I am already
>connected to the database using ODBC API.
>
>Thanks
>
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RE: * Oracle DBAs Needed in the Virginia Beach VA Area..

2001-03-01 Thread Janardhana Babu


Connect to target and catalog databases and issue upgrade catalog command at
RMAN prompt.
You may be asked to enter the command twice, just like password
confirmation.

-- Babu

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To: 'Janardhana Babu'
Cc: Anne Yu



Thanks for replying to my email.   I don't know where to issue that command.



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Issue Upgrade Catalog command in your recovery catalog database.

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Hi List Friends, 

I have server A: Solaris 5.8, RDBMS 8.1.7.0.0 and server B: Solaris 5.8 &
the RDBMS was upgraded from 8.0.5 to 8.1.7. 

RDBMS 8.1.7 is my recovery manager target database and the other is my
catalog database. 
When I try to register this 8.1.7 target database to this upgraded 8.1.7
catalog database,  I am getting:


RMAN> connect target sys/password@target_db 
RMAN> connected to target database: CATALOG
RMAN> connected to recovery catalog database
RMAN-06186: PL/SQL package SYS.DBMS_RCVMAN version 08.00.05 in TARGET
database i 
s too old 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS === 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-0058: error encountered while parsing input commands
RMAN-01006: error signalled during parse
 

What can I do to correct this problem, IF ANY? 


many thanks,


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OAS Installation problem

2001-03-01 Thread Vinod Nagaraj

hi guys,

I installed OAS 4.0 on a NT server successfully.Then as per the post
installation tasks in the installation guide i followed the following
1) Rebooted the machine
2) connecting to the welcome page using
http://hostname.domain:port_number
3) Entered the node manager username and password to get the welcome
page

In the next step he says to bring up the OAS manager page and once
connected to the welcome page,click on the OAS manager icon

My problem is, i am not able to find OAS manager page or OAS manager
icon
pls can anyone guide me how to get this as i am new to this technology

vinod


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ora 27146 error ?

2001-03-01 Thread Leslie Lu

Hi all,

When I try to startup an instance, I got this:
ORA-27146: post/wait initialization failed

And this is what the document suggests:
27146, , "post/wait initialization failed"
// *Cause:  OS system call failed
// *Action: check errno and contact Oracle Support

Anybody has any solution?  Thank you.


Leslie

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Re: reset control, redo, logs etc

2001-03-01 Thread Ruth Gramolini

The best thing you can do is shut the database down.  Do a cold back and
through the other one away.  Just because you did a backup doesn't mean that
you database is in a strange state.  Just start over.


Just my $0.02,
Ruth

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> If my database was not shutdown before a cold
> backup was made, how do I bring it back up
> skipping (or resetting) ctl, headers etc.
> Is this possible?
>
> TIA
> joe
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RE: * Oracle DBAs Needed in the Virginia Beach VA Area..

2001-03-01 Thread Kimberly Smith

Hum... The subject seems to be a little off here...

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Connect to target and catalog databases and issue upgrade catalog command at
RMAN prompt.
You may be asked to enter the command twice, just like password
confirmation.

-- Babu

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:03 AM
To: 'Janardhana Babu'
Cc: Anne Yu



Thanks for replying to my email.   I don't know where to issue that command.



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To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: 'Anne Yu'


Issue Upgrade Catalog command in your recovery catalog database.

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:07 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi List Friends, 

I have server A: Solaris 5.8, RDBMS 8.1.7.0.0 and server B: Solaris 5.8 &
the RDBMS was upgraded from 8.0.5 to 8.1.7. 

RDBMS 8.1.7 is my recovery manager target database and the other is my
catalog database. 
When I try to register this 8.1.7 target database to this upgraded 8.1.7
catalog database,  I am getting:


RMAN> connect target sys/password@target_db 
RMAN> connected to target database: CATALOG
RMAN> connected to recovery catalog database
RMAN-06186: PL/SQL package SYS.DBMS_RCVMAN version 08.00.05 in TARGET
database i 
s too old 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS === 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-0058: error encountered while parsing input commands
RMAN-01006: error signalled during parse
 

What can I do to correct this problem, IF ANY? 


many thanks,


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RE: Oracle Author in People Magazine

2001-03-01 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

A quarter of a century old.

I can't believe I passed that landmark already!

Ugh.

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)



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Rachel, you're only 25. Why would you care?


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remind me not to get interviewed by them... who wants everyone to
know how 
old I am?  :)

Seeing-eye horses? that is cool -- gonna have to go find that issue.


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>Has anyone seen the recent February 26th issue of People Magazine?
>
>There was a three-page article on Don Burleson's side-activity: his
>seeing-eye horses. Very cool ; they even wear shoes.
>
>If you do not know Don, he authored the "High-performance Oracle8
>Tuning" book.
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>Now we know from the article that he is 44 years old ;)
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RE: hsodbc/Merant connection to MSSQL

2001-03-01 Thread Ed Maurer
Title: export / import 8.1.5 to 8.0 ?



Anyone 
succeeded in getting hsodbc working (8.1.x);
I need 
to get this up (Oracle to MSSQL 2K on Win2K);
 
TG4MSQL is not viable as it isn't 
supported
on 
W2K; can't wait for 'promised' upgrades. Merant seemed
to be 
the way to go; but I've been unable to get that
connection working either through hsodbc; 
I've
been 
over my listener configs about 200 times 
already and all appears in order.
 
Success / Failure stories much 
welcome.
 
 
TIA
 
Ed Maurer
AcquireX 


RE: OAS and iAS file size comparisons

2001-03-01 Thread Thater, William

On Thu, 1 Mar 2001,Seley, Linda scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

->Everything but the kitchen sink..  9iAS includes Apache, Forms Server,
->Reports Server, Portal, DB Cache, Discoverer Server, Queue Manager, Wireless
->if you want it, and possibly others I've left out.  Consider yourself lucky
->if you only had 2 CDs, we (Solaris) had 3.
->
->Linda
->(installed but not working)

here it's installed [well mostly anyway.;-)] and working.  but let's say the
installation guide and configuration information was... um less than
optimal.

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RE: reset control, redo, logs etc

2001-03-01 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

I would think that it is definately in a strange state.  I know that if you
did this with NT, meaning the database was running and you copied the files
to another location.  I am pretty sure you wouldn't be able to get it to
run, I am not even sure that it would copy all of the files.
Kev

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The best thing you can do is shut the database down.  Do a cold back and
through the other one away.  Just because you did a backup doesn't mean that
you database is in a strange state.  Just start over.


Just my $0.02,
Ruth

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> If my database was not shutdown before a cold
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> Is this possible?
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RE: DBWR slaves in NT???

2001-03-01 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: RE: DBWR slaves in NT???





not a dbwriter problem.


on a "single-disk wonder", your best
bet is to DUMP all indexes on loadable
tables, then load your data, then rebuild
the indexes.


of course, that might take just as long. 


any possiblity of getting more disk?
like, several? a raid controller?


mit gluck!




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Hi Friends


I have toad tool for my NT database


DBWR Average Scan Depth 1024  **Number of DB_Files too high??


I got doubt due to from v$waitstat I got data block waits some time 8000 and 
some times higher number. How can I increase the DBWR slaves on NT?? 
although I set in development box, How can I see as background process 
really working for me??


I have my datafile and indexes same on E disk drive, My hit ratios are okay, 
My import is killing me.


Any help appreciated.


Thanks
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ORA-20000: Unable to compile TRIGGER "MWH"."CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW"

2001-03-01 Thread Charlie Mengler

Oracle V7.3.4.3 on V2.6 Solaris
For all practical purposes "MWH" owns all objects in this application.
AFAIK The object does exist as shown below and as the owner and with
CREATE ANY PROCEDURE priv MWH should be able to compile it.

So why do I keep getting these ORA-2 errors?



SQL> exec dbms_ddl.alter_compile('TRIGGER',user,'CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW');
begin dbms_ddl.alter_compile('TRIGGER',user,'CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW'); end;

*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-2: Unable to compile TRIGGER "MWH"."CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW", insufficient
privileges or does not exist
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_DDL", line 47
ORA-06512: at line 1


SQL> sho user
user is "MWH"
SQL> exec dbms_ddl.alter_compile('TRIGGER','MWH','CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW');
begin dbms_ddl.alter_compile('TRIGGER','MWH','CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW'); end;

*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-2: Unable to compile TRIGGER "MWH"."CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW", insufficient
privileges or does not exist
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_DDL", line 47
ORA-06512: at line 1


SQL> select * from user_objects where object_name = 'CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW'; 
#:-)

OBJECT_NAME

 OBJECT_ID OBJECT_TYPE   CREATED   LAST_DDL_
-- - - -
TIMESTAMP
---
STATUS
---
CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW
 49325 TRIGGER   14-MAR-99 01-MAR-01
2001-03-01:10:19:34
VALID

SQL> connect sys/pass
Connected.
SQL> grant execute on dbms_ddl to MWH;

Grant succeeded.

SQL> connect mwh/pass
Connected.
SQL> exec dbms_ddl.alter_compile('TRIGGER','MWH','CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW');
begin dbms_ddl.alter_compile('TRIGGER','MWH','CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW'); end;

*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-2: Unable to compile TRIGGER "MWH"."CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW", insufficient
privileges or does not exist
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_DDL", line 47
ORA-06512: at line 1


SQL> connect sys/pass
Connected.
SQL> grant create any procedure to MWH;

Grant succeeded.

SQL> connect mwh/pass
Connected.
SQL> exec dbms_ddl.alter_compile('TRIGGER','MWH','CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW');
begin dbms_ddl.alter_compile('TRIGGER','MWH','CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW'); end;

*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-2: Unable to compile TRIGGER "MWH"."CDH_AFT_UPD_ROW", insufficient
privileges or does not exist
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_DDL", line 47
ORA-06512: at line 1
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RE: Application Context

2001-03-01 Thread Scott . Shafer

Use:  http://osi.oracle.com/~tkyte and click on the link for the article.

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RE: ora 27146 error ?

2001-03-01 Thread Trassens, Christian

Is the error on Solaris that appears on 8.x releases when there is a lack of
semaphores. Therefore, increase the number of them in /etc/system.

Regards.

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> Hi all,
> 
> When I try to startup an instance, I got this:
> ORA-27146: post/wait initialization failed
> 
> And this is what the document suggests:
> 27146, , "post/wait initialization failed"
> // *Cause:  OS system call failed
> // *Action: check errno and contact Oracle Support
> 
> Anybody has any solution?  Thank you.
> 
> 
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Re: Application Context

2001-03-01 Thread Chaim . Katz



Its http://osi.oracle.com/~tkyte/article2/index.html

(note the trailing l)





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At 07:31 AM 3/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Check this document:
>http://osi.oracle.com/~tkyte/article2/index.htm

page cannot be found.


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RE: ora 27146 error ?

2001-03-01 Thread Shaw, Glen

Also, if you can't reboot the server and need to get the database up
quickly, reduce the processes parameter in the init.ora file to a minimal
level (i.e. 20) until you can reboot the server.

Glen

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Is the error on Solaris that appears on 8.x releases when there is a lack of
semaphores. Therefore, increase the number of them in /etc/system.

Regards.

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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> When I try to startup an instance, I got this:
> ORA-27146: post/wait initialization failed
> 
> And this is what the document suggests:
> 27146, , "post/wait initialization failed"
> // *Cause:  OS system call failed
> // *Action: check errno and contact Oracle Support
> 
> Anybody has any solution?  Thank you.
> 
> 
> Leslie
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RE: DBWR slaves in NT???

2001-03-01 Thread Jesse, Rich

Actually, that message is invalid for Oracle8 DBs.  From what I can gather,
the DB_FILES init.ora parameter only
potentially affected DBWR performance in Oracle7.  In Oracle8, it ain't
true.

Remember, the DBWRs write dirty buffers (data in memory that has been
modified from it's counterpart in a datafile) from the buffer cache (memory)
to the datafiles (disk).  In O7, the DBWR I/O clump size, or how many dirty
blocks could be written at once (also sometimes referred to as the DBWR's
"internal write batch size"), was calculated as:

DB_FILE_SIMULTANEOUS_WRITES*DB_FILES/2.

In O8, the DBWR I/O clump size is static, and is different from platform to
platform.  Thus, for Oracle8, the advise to change DB_FILES is bogus.

HTH!

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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not a dbwriter problem. 
on a "single-disk wonder", your best 
bet is to DUMP all indexes on loadable 
tables, then load your data, then rebuild 
the indexes. 
of course, that might take just as long. 
any possiblity of getting more disk? 
like, several? a raid controller? 
mit gluck! 



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Hi Friends 
I have toad tool for my NT database 
DBWR Average Scan Depth 1024  **Number of DB_Files too high?? 
I got doubt due to from v$waitstat I got data block waits some time 8000 and

some times higher number. How can I increase the DBWR slaves on NT?? 
although I set in development box, How can I see as background process 
really working for me?? 
I have my datafile and indexes same on E disk drive, My hit ratios are okay,

My import is killing me. 
Any help appreciated. 
Thanks 
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Re: ora 27146 error ?

2001-03-01 Thread Rocky Welch

Hi Leslie,
I just ran into this about a month ago. I bet you're on Unix. The
/etc/system settings are too low. It's the same situation as when you get
a semephore no space left on device error. Raise them and reboot the
machine then yu should be ok. (The values you use will depend on machine
memory, etc.)

HTH,

-Rocky

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> When I try to startup an instance, I got this:
> ORA-27146: post/wait initialization failed
> 
> And this is what the document suggests:
> 27146, , "post/wait initialization failed"
> // *Cause:  OS system call failed
> // *Action: check errno and contact Oracle Support
> 
> Anybody has any solution?  Thank you.
> 
> 
> Leslie
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RE: RE: eek!

2001-03-01 Thread Kimberly Smith

Actually we had our HP cluster crash today as well.  First
one side went.  Got that all back up and then the other side
went.  Since I am in Gresham, OR we are blaming it on the earthquake.
Couldn't find a reason not to.  So far management seems to
be buying it.

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Hummm!!  Must be a week for disasters.  We've had a multi DB development box
crashing for the first 3 days of this week.  Right now the HP rep is in
there
with his head inside the chassis & parts all over the place outside!!  Sure
that
earthquake was in the NorthWest?  Looks like splattered quite a bit over
here
too!!  Thank God tomorrow's Friday! :-)

Dick Goulet

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Date:   3/1/2001 7:45 AM

As a part of my daily calls yesterday - imagine my shock when I phoned for a
regular contact of mine - to find that he was IN the train crash!!! He came
out OK though according to the receptionist, although he did lose his mobile
phone :( I just feel for the families of the ones that didn't make it.

I'm also about 25 miles away from a case of Foot & Mouth!

Sean, you can see the bad moon rising? I got a full one looming over head:)

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Sean,

I read about that crash this morning -- horrifying!  And they are saying
there is something like $1 billion worth of damage from the quake. My
friends in Gresham (Oregon) felt it as well.

You going to become a vegetarian based on the animal diseases raging over
there?

Dennis -- you okay? Family/home okay? Databases?

Rachel

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>Dennis,
>
>So how are things post earth quake?.  Did you need to invoke any of your DR
>Plan?.  If so, sharing your experience on this would be useful after the
>dust settles =:-0
>
>It's a hell of a wake up call to remind one why DR plans are important.
>
>The earthquake made news here in Ireland along with the impending foot &
>mouth disease crisis and even mentioned ahead of bad rail crash in England
>across the Irish sea where lives were lost.
>
>"I see the bad moon a risin'.  I see trouble on the way."
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>We just had an earthquake. I'm fairly freeked.
>
>How's everyone's disaster recover strategy? I'll think I'll be reviewing
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RE: OAS and iAS file size comparisons

2001-03-01 Thread Yexley Robert D SSgt AFIT/SCA

Another thing to keep in mind with 9iAS (in relation to its size) is it's
caching capabilities.  How do you think it keeps all that information
cached??  Replication.  9iAS also comes with and installs the Oracle
database engine in addition to everything else.  When you select certain
options for caching, it automatically performs data replication from the
database server for you.  That's probably a huge part of the size of 9iAS in
and of itself.

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Everything but the kitchen sink..  9iAS includes Apache, Forms Server,
Reports Server, Portal, DB Cache, Discoverer Server, Queue Manager, Wireless
if you want it, and possibly others I've left out.  Consider yourself lucky
if you only had 2 CDs, we (Solaris) had 3.

Linda
(installed but not working)

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OAS 4.0.8.2 for NT was 121M in size, zipped.

iAS for NT is two CDs in size, 569,609K + 403,131K.

What did they put in this new version that is so HUGE?

Unbelievable.

How big will Oracle 9i be, I wonder.

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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RE: DBWR slaves in NT???

2001-03-01 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

If I am completely off the wall here just slap me around a little bit.  But
couldn't you play with the init parameteres DBWR_IO_SLAVES or
DB_WRITER_PROCESSES to help improve write performance?  I mean, I agree with
Ross, there is only one disk, but maybe it could help a little to help
simulate asynchronous I/O?
Kev
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Actually, that message is invalid for Oracle8 DBs.  From what I can gather,
the DB_FILES init.ora parameter only
potentially affected DBWR performance in Oracle7.  In Oracle8, it ain't
true.

Remember, the DBWRs write dirty buffers (data in memory that has been
modified from it's counterpart in a datafile) from the buffer cache (memory)
to the datafiles (disk).  In O7, the DBWR I/O clump size, or how many dirty
blocks could be written at once (also sometimes referred to as the DBWR's
"internal write batch size"), was calculated as:

DB_FILE_SIMULTANEOUS_WRITES*DB_FILES/2.

In O8, the DBWR I/O clump size is static, and is different from platform to
platform.  Thus, for Oracle8, the advise to change DB_FILES is bogus.

HTH!

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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not a dbwriter problem.
on a "single-disk wonder", your best
bet is to DUMP all indexes on loadable
tables, then load your data, then rebuild
the indexes.
of course, that might take just as long.
any possiblity of getting more disk?
like, several? a raid controller?
mit gluck!



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Hi Friends
I have toad tool for my NT database
DBWR Average Scan Depth 1024  **Number of DB_Files too high??
I got doubt due to from v$waitstat I got data block waits some time 8000 and

some times higher number. How can I increase the DBWR slaves on NT??
although I set in development box, How can I see as background process
really working for me??
I have my datafile and indexes same on E disk drive, My hit ratios are okay,

My import is killing me.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
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RE: Help - Tuning SQL - ISSUE CLOSED

2001-03-01 Thread Armstead, Michael A

Thanks for the help guys.

Michael Armstead
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> I've got some simple questions on tuning SQL. Please reply with
> references,
> I'm not looking for guesses.
> 
> * If you have a SELECT statement with a WHERE clause and 2 AND
> clauses, which one is processed first, the WHERE clause, the first AND
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> * Is there any performance loss in using "<>" over "!="?
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Re: reset control, redo, logs etc

2001-03-01 Thread Ruth Gramolini

He didn't try to restore from the backup, he just backed up the database
when it was open. unless I misunderstood everything.

Very possible,
Ruth
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> I would think that it is definately in a strange state.  I know that if
you
> did this with NT, meaning the database was running and you copied the
files
> to another location.  I am pretty sure you wouldn't be able to get it to
> run, I am not even sure that it would copy all of the files.
> Kev
>
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>
> The best thing you can do is shut the database down.  Do a cold back and
> through the other one away.  Just because you did a backup doesn't mean
that
> you database is in a strange state.  Just start over.
>
>
> Just my $0.02,
> Ruth
>
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> > If my database was not shutdown before a cold
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> > skipping (or resetting) ctl, headers etc.
> > Is this possible?
> >
> > TIA
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Re: BFILE vs. BLOB

2001-03-01 Thread Don Jerman



Last time I danced with this topic (8.1.5), BFILE required the file to
exist somewhere accessable to the data server (like on a mounted file system)
that you create an alias for with CREATE DIRECTORY.  But the data
server could not create or write the file.  So you have to let the
application write to a directory mounted by your Oracle server, without
overwriting any old BFILE data and without deleting any files that are
still referenced by the database.  Sounded complicated to me.
If you must modify the data BFILEs are out, unless you let the app do
it, and then you might as well just store the file names.  Sounds
good for static content that must be streamed back with the query, though.
Of course, 8.1.7 may have fixed this...
"Koivu, Lisa" wrote:
 
Good morning all,
I have to start storing binary files
in our database somehow.  I'm reading up on BFILES and BLOBs.
Seems like one of the differences is
that BLOBs are manipulated within the database, and BFILEs are not. 
Can anyone comment on how fast (or not fast) the DBMS_LOB. routines are
when operating in fairly large BLOBs?  I'm leaning toward BFILEs to
avoid having the database do anything other than just keep a pointer to
the file and keep the transaction length as short as possible.  FWIW,
I'll only need to accept a file and store it, and return it back to the
app when requested.
Another question:  Anyone using
temporary BLOBs (8i)?
Any comments, gotchas, boogie men are
appreciated.
Thanks
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RE: * Oracle DBAs Needed in the Virginia Beach VA Area..

2001-03-01 Thread Anne Yu

It works.   Thank you very very much.

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Issue Upgrade Catalog command in your recovery catalog database.

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Hi List Friends, 

I have server A: Solaris 5.8, RDBMS 8.1.7.0.0 and server B: Solaris 5.8 &
the RDBMS was upgraded from 8.0.5 to 8.1.7. 

RDBMS 8.1.7 is my recovery manager target database and the other is my
catalog database. 
When I try to register this 8.1.7 target database to this upgraded 8.1.7
catalog database,  I am getting:


RMAN> connect target sys/password@target_db 
RMAN> connected to target database: CATALOG
RMAN> connected to recovery catalog database
RMAN-06186: PL/SQL package SYS.DBMS_RCVMAN version 08.00.05 in TARGET
database i 
s too old 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS === 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-0058: error encountered while parsing input commands
RMAN-01006: error signalled during parse
 

What can I do to correct this problem, IF ANY? 


many thanks,


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Newbie question on Packages

2001-03-01 Thread Rakesh Dinger

Hi, I a newbie in Oracle and am trying to create a package body in PL/SQL, so please 
bear with me.

The statements are:
SQL> create or replace package body RA_GET_TX_INFO_
  2  as
  3  begin
  4  select SID from V$SESSION;
  5  end RA_GET_TX_INFO_;
 /
Warning: Package Body created with compilation errors.
SQL> show errors package body RA_GET_TX_INFO_;
Errors for PACKAGE BODY RA_GET_TX_INFO_:
 
LINE/COL ERROR
 -
3/10 PL/SQL: SQL Statement ignored
3/26 PLS-00201: identifier 'SYS.V_$SESSION' must be declared


How can I select from V_$SESSION inside the body? The user account has dba role 
granted and I can select from V_$SESSION from a normal PL/SQL session.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Rakesh
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RE: reset control, redo, logs etc

2001-03-01 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Yeah, to tell you the truth I am not quite sure what he meant, so I just
winged it:)

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He didn't try to restore from the backup, he just backed up the database
when it was open. unless I misunderstood everything.

Very possible,
Ruth
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> I would think that it is definately in a strange state.  I know that if
you
> did this with NT, meaning the database was running and you copied the
files
> to another location.  I am pretty sure you wouldn't be able to get it to
> run, I am not even sure that it would copy all of the files.
> Kev
>
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>
>
> The best thing you can do is shut the database down.  Do a cold back and
> through the other one away.  Just because you did a backup doesn't mean
that
> you database is in a strange state.  Just start over.
>
>
> Just my $0.02,
> Ruth
>
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> > If my database was not shutdown before a cold
> > backup was made, how do I bring it back up
> > skipping (or resetting) ctl, headers etc.
> > Is this possible?
> >
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RE: DBWR slaves in NT???

2001-03-01 Thread Jesse, Rich

H...I don't know how pounding a single drive with two threads instead of
one would help, but it could be tried.  I would think that the LGWR would be
the big complainer in a 1-disk config, instead of the DBWR.  Or at least I
think LGWR would complain more often...

My post was simply to point out that the error message in TOAD about "Number
of DB_FILES set too high" was inaccurate.  And as the "Tuning" stuff in TOAD
has been redone, at least in the latest TOAD v7 Beta, this error message
won't be a hassle too much longer.

Long live Toadman Jim!  :)

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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> From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 14:09
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: DBWR slaves in NT???
> 
> 
> If I am completely off the wall here just slap me around a 
> little bit.  But
> couldn't you play with the init parameteres DBWR_IO_SLAVES or
> DB_WRITER_PROCESSES to help improve write performance?  I 
> mean, I agree with
> Ross, there is only one disk, but maybe it could help a little to help
> simulate asynchronous I/O?
> Kev
> Just thinkin out loud again!
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Actually, that message is invalid for Oracle8 DBs.  From what 
> I can gather,
> the DB_FILES init.ora parameter only
> potentially affected DBWR performance in Oracle7.  In 
> Oracle8, it ain't
> true.
> 
> Remember, the DBWRs write dirty buffers (data in memory that has been
> modified from it's counterpart in a datafile) from the buffer 
> cache (memory)
> to the datafiles (disk).  In O7, the DBWR I/O clump size, or 
> how many dirty
> blocks could be written at once (also sometimes referred to 
> as the DBWR's
> "internal write batch size"), was calculated as:
> 
>   DB_FILE_SIMULTANEOUS_WRITES*DB_FILES/2.
> 
> In O8, the DBWR I/O clump size is static, and is different 
> from platform to
> platform.  Thus, for Oracle8, the advise to change DB_FILES is bogus.
> 
> HTH!
> 
> Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, 
> Sussex, WI USA
> 
> Disclaimer:  After taking the Oracle8 Perf Tuning class, I 
> think I know more
> than I do.  Don't blame me for your (in)actions based on my opinion!
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:27
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> 
> 
> not a dbwriter problem.
> on a "single-disk wonder", your best
> bet is to DUMP all indexes on loadable
> tables, then load your data, then rebuild
> the indexes.
> of course, that might take just as long.
> any possiblity of getting more disk?
> like, several? a raid controller?
> mit gluck!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:26 AM
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> 
> 
> Hi Friends
> I have toad tool for my NT database
> DBWR Average Scan Depth 1024  **Number of DB_Files too high??
> I got doubt due to from v$waitstat I got data block waits 
> some time 8000 and
> 
> some times higher number. How can I increase the DBWR slaves on NT??
> although I set in development box, How can I see as background process
> really working for me??
> I have my datafile and indexes same on E disk drive, My hit 
> ratios are okay,
> 
> My import is killing me.
> Any help appreciated.
> Thanks
> Raghu.
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Report Metalink Problems

2001-03-01 Thread Yexley Robert D SSgt AFIT/SCA

Hey everyone,

Along with seemingly everyone else on this list, I have been suffering from
a lack of access to Metalink lately too.  I spoke yesterday with Oracle
Client Relations in regards to this, basically because I wanted to let them
know just how big of an impact this seemed to be having on customer
confidence in Oracle's products and/or support.  The individual that I spoke
with mentioned that any problems that I might be having with Metalink needed
to be reported to their Electronic Support Services Help Desk (mailto:
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dissatisfaction and concern about this problem, and the apparent lack of
priority in getting it fixed.  I basically just wanted to encourage everyone
on the list here to do the same thing if you feel it necessary.  I kind of
thought that maybe if they get bombarded with messages about how big this
problem is, maybe they will finally do something about it.  If you have
already done something along these lines, please disregard.

-::YEX::-

Robert D. Yexley, SSgt
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RE: Newbie question on Packages

2001-03-01 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: RE: Newbie question on Packages





Beat me with an overextended RBS if
you need be, but other than any
permission issue, don't you need
to SELECTINTO...  in PL/SQL?


Ready for my beating, 


- Ross


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From: Rakesh Dinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Newbie question on Packages



Hi, I a newbie in Oracle and am trying to create a package body in PL/SQL, so please bear with me.


The statements are:
SQL> create or replace package body RA_GET_TX_INFO_
  2  as
  3  begin
  4  select SID from V$SESSION;
  5  end RA_GET_TX_INFO_;
 /
Warning: Package Body created with compilation errors.
SQL> show errors package body RA_GET_TX_INFO_;
Errors for PACKAGE BODY RA_GET_TX_INFO_:
 
LINE/COL ERROR
 -
3/10 PL/SQL: SQL Statement ignored
3/26 PLS-00201: identifier 'SYS.V_$SESSION' must be declared



How can I select from V_$SESSION inside the body? The user account has dba role granted and I can select from V_$SESSION from a normal PL/SQL session.

Any help greatly appreciated.


Thanks
Rakesh
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RE: Oracle's Updates Subscription Service

2001-03-01 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: RE: Oracle's Updates Subscription Service



Ross,
 
It's 
the transaction/activity rate that causes MySQL to go in the tank. Our products 
are web applications and some of our hosted sites see hundreds of thousands of 
hits a day. There are a few tables in our main application that are constantly 
being updated by each hit (web page request). Since MySQL has table-level 
locking only, performance can tank during peak periods.
 
In 
addition, since MySQL has no concept of a transaction or rollback, data 
corruption is a constant problem. We have a cron job that runs isamchk on a 
regular basis for our larger customers to try and nip the corruption problems in 
the bud. Nevertheless, our Hosting Sysadmins spend a good portion of each day 
fixing MySQL corruption problems.
 
Fortunately our product has an Oracle API, so we've 
moved a number of our larger customers to Oracle. Their site performance is a 
bit slower overall -- our products are "optimized" for MySQL -- but their 
performance no longer completely tanks during peak periods and there is no data 
corruption at all.
 
So now 
we've decided to ramp up our Oracle usage (this is one of the reasons I was 
hired) but since we are a young and relatively cash-poor company the Mucky-mucks 
are hesitant about Oracle's cost. But then we show them what MySQL is doing to 
our hosting environment and they become stressed out about losing customers. The 
"between a rock and a hard place" scenario has sent them into paroxysms of fear, 
because they realize they might actually have to quit using free stuff and start 
spending money to keep up with the growing demand for the company's products. 
They long for the good old days of a couple of years ago when there were no 
customers, lots of venture capital, and the newly-created products ran great on 
E-machines, Linux, and MySQL.
 
I 
guess you can say that we're suffering through the pain of transitioning from an 
internet startup to a mature, growing company with a seemingly bright future. It 
is not unlike going through puberty.
 
I, of 
course, seem to have skipped the maturation process altogether and like most 
males my age I am not young, but am still immature. I rather enjoy 
it.
 
--Walt 
Weaver
  
Bozeman, Montana, USA

  -Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:15 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Oracle's Updates Subscription Service
  Interesting stuff. (Especially about the ruminants.)   When 
  you say mysql does not scale, 
  have 
  you run into hard walls? if so, what is the data size, or is it the 
  transaction/activity rate
  that 
  tanksi'd be interested in hearing where, if at all, you are "hitting the 
  knee".
   
  I'd 
  love to get out there someday. Absolutely beautiful 
  country.
   
  thanks for the snapshot!
  
-Original Message-From: Weaver, Walt 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 
1:01 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle's Updates Subscription 
Service
Well Ross, Our campus is out in the country (just 
about everywhere in Montana is out in the country) and we are, indeed, 
surrounded by docile ruminants. I'd like to say that during our off-time we 
go out and gaze lovingly at their udders, but there are other things we 
prefer to gaze at lovingly.
 
Of 
course, we have no problems doing online dairy backups around here. 
:>)
 
We 
use MySQL here and yes it's tunable. There's even word out on the street 
that soon MySQL may support the concept of a transaction. What a 
concept.
 
MySQL has its place, but it's causing us no end of 
pain here. It doesn't scale well enough to support what we're doing. That's 
why we're painfully biting the bullet and paying the big bucks for 
Oracle.
 
--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana, USA
 
 

  -Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 
  8:51 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle's Updates Subscription 
  Service
  Walt, you have just shattered my picture of you as a 
  gentle man surrounded by docile ruminants, never 
  uddering a discouraging word. 
  Yes, it's amazing, the price of the software. My line to 
  folks is: "For your money, Oracle is the best 
  database...if it were my money, it would be almost 
  anything but.." 
  MySQL *is* tunable.could be fun 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Weaver, Walt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:21 AM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle's Updates Subscription Service 
  Say, is it just me or has the cost of the Updates 
  Subscription Service gone up considerably in the 
  past

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