how is this possible??

2001-09-11 Thread Kris Austin


hello... i am faced with an enigma.

SQL select * from p_sku@shopowner_lnk where sku_cd not in
  2  (select sku_cd from p_sku);

no rows selected

SQL delete from  p_sku@shopowner_lnk where sku_cd not in (
  2  select sku_cd from p_sku);


2 rows deleted.

there are no triggers on any of these objects. 

SQL select * from dba_triggers where table_name like '%SKU%';

no rows selected


this 8.1.6 db lives on sun-ultra 60 (solaris).

if there are no rows returned for the select statement, how can there be a
delete? i'm trying to solve a problem for progammers. any feedback would
be most appreciated.

thanks,
kris austin


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Fast Refresh of Snaphots Locking?

2001-09-11 Thread Tracy Rahmlow

When we do  a fast refresh of a snapshot and the number of entries in the log
are high (750,000+) our users complain about poor performance for approximately
a 5 - 10 minute period.  (This occurs in the database where the master resides)
As of yet I have not been notified in a timely manner to investigate as it is
occuring.  I thought there was no locking on the master site, so my initial
reaction is that this is not the issue.  It is also strange that it is a short
period of time.  I believe much shorter than the time it takes to refresh the
snapshot.   Also, only appears to be an issue with a large (in our shop) number
of transactions in the snapshot log.  No complaints any other time.  Has
anybody seen any threshold limit for refreshing incrementally (fast)?  Is there
locking occuring on dictionary tables which is extended in length due to the
number of transactions?  Any thoughts?  Thanks


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RE: Snapshot performance issue

2001-09-11 Thread ALEMU Abiy

I forgot to tell you that I'm working on release 8.1.7 and if I'm not
mistaken indexes like 'SNAP_$' do no more exist.
Please, correct me if I'm mistaken.

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It may be that the name of your index has changed.
It is probably something like I_snap$_E  I_REF_EMETTEUR.

You will need to change the hint to reflect the change.




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I have a view based  on the query below which is executed in a reasonable
way
on the master site but  this same view takes hours on the snapshot site. 
Any
idea

  CREATE OR  REPLACE VIEW V_ENTITE_EMETTEUR2  AS
 select /*+ ORDERED USE_NL(E A SI SY O LF MO AM MR ST) INDEX(E
I_REF_EMETTEUR)
*/
  E.COMP_EMETTEUR, E.NOM_STATION,  E.REF_EMETTEUR, E.PIRE, E.PIRE_CALCULEE,
  E.HAUT_SOL_ANT, E.AZIMUT,  E.ELEVATION, E.OWNER, E.CODE_INTERNE_TS,
  E.CODE_INTERNE_TC,  E.DEP_CODE_GESTION, SY.COMP_SYSTEME, SY.NOM_SYSTEME,
  O.COMP_OPERATEUR,  O.CODE_OPERATEUR, SI.COMP_SITE, SI.REF_SITE,
SI.NOM_SITE,
   A.COMP_ANTENNE, A.NOM_ANT, MO.REF_MODU, AM.REF_AMPLI, MR.REF_MAT_RECEPT,
LF.CODE_ETAT, ST.CODE
 from t_station E, t_antena  A, t_site SI,  t_system SY, t_operator O,
t_lf_states LF,
  v_station_modu MO,  v_station_ampli AM, v_station_recept MR, t_status ST
 where  E.COMP_SYSTEME = SY.COMP_SYSTEME and E.COMP_OPERATEUR =
O.COMP_OPERATEUR
  and E.COMP_SYSTEME = O.COMP_SYSTEME and E.COMP_SITE =  SI.COMP_SITE
  and E.COMP_ANTENNE = A.COMP_ANTENNE and E.COMP_EMETTEUR =
MO.COMP_EMETTEUR
(+)
  and E.COMP_EMETTEUR = AM.COMP_EMETTEUR(+) and  E.COMP_EMETTEUR =
MR.COMP_EMETTEUR(+)
  and not (E.SUPPR_A_ANALYSER_FAE  is not null and E.SUPPR_A_ANALYSER_FAE
= 'O')
  and E.TYPE_STATION =  LF.COMP_ETATS and E.COMP_STATUS  = ST.COMP_STATUS(+)
  and exists  (select 1 from v_mygroup_users
     where E.owner=user_name and rownum=1);


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Query from access to oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Roland . Skoldblom

Hallo,

Anyone who can help me,

I  have this query in Ms Access:

How should I  write this sql statement in oracle.

SELECT RIK2.LEV.LEVNR, RIK2.VARE.EAN_NR, RIK2.VARE.VARENAVN, RIK2.AVD.KJEDE, 
Sum(BRT.BRTOMS_DAG.ANT) AS ANT, Sum(BRT.BRTOMS_DAG.UTVERDI) AS UTVERDI, 
BRT.BRTOMS_DAG.DATO, Left([RIK2.VARE].[HYLLETXT2],12) AS VARUMARKE, RIK2_VARE.STR
FROM ((RIK2.LEV INNER JOIN RIK2.VARE ON RIK2.LEV.LEVNR = RIK2.VARE.LEVNR) INNER JOIN 
BRT.BRTOMS_DAG ON (RIK2.VARE.VARE_SNR = BRT.BRTOMS_DAG.VARE_SNR) AND (RIK2.VARE.VARENR 
= BRT.BRTOMS_DAG.VARENR) AND (RIK2_VARE.SORTIMENT = BRT_BRTOMS_DAG.SORTIMENT))
INNER JOIN RIK2_AVD ON BRT.BRTOMS_DAG.AVDNR = RIK2.AVD.AVDNR
WHERE (((RIK2.LEV.SELSKAP)=11) AND ((RIK2.VARE.SELSKAP)=11) AND 
((RIK2.AVD.SELSKAP)=11))
GROUP BY RIK2.LEV.LEVNR, RIK2.VARE.EAN_NR, RIK2.VARE.VARENAVN, RIK2.AVD.KJEDE, 
BRT.BRTOMS_DAG.DATO, RIK2.VARE.STR, RIK2.VARE.HYLLETXT2
HAVING (((RIK2.AVD.KJEDE) In (30,31,32,33,34)))
ORDER BY RIK2.VARE.EAN_NR;

I guess problem with left join, inner join and outer join




Thanks in advance.


Roland


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RE: User Query Tools

2001-09-11 Thread Thomas, Kevin

It's your worst nightmare come true!!!
 
The users want to do it 'cause 
 
a) IS charge to much for the work
b) All it is is a bunch of stuff in a big file thing, how difficult could it
be?
c) Isn't it just like a big spreadsheet only different?
d) I built one at home so I know what to look for (the worst one, instant
expert!)
 
Good luckgrinas for tools, try Oracle Discoverer.
 
Regards,
Kev.
 
 
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Hey all, 
 
I just got out from a meeting where I was told that some of our users are
asking for a tool to do their own queries against our database so they
wouldn't have to request reports and such from IS.  Oh BTW, they don't know
(or feel the need to learn) SQL so they will be needing something with
either a good GUI QBF or some kind of natural language interface.  
 
We are leaning against MS Query to avoid ODBC performance problems.
 
Does anyone out there have users like this?  Any product referrals with
pros/cons?  
 
TIA

 
If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or drop me a note.
 
Stephen Andert
480-445-2506

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RE: export user definitions

2001-09-11 Thread GKor

something like this i have found on teamdba.com

select 'create user '||username||' identified by values '
||chr(39)||password||chr(39)||
' default tablespace '||default_tablespace ||
' temporary tablespace '|| temporary_tablespace||' ;'
from dba_users
where username not in ('SYS','SYSTEM','DBSNMP','OUTLN');

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 Van:  Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 Aan:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp:Re: export user definitions
 
 On Monday 10 September 2001 02:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hi everyone
 
  can anybody help me with a script that recreates
  user definitions and the granted roles ?
 
  thanks
 
  g.g. kor
  rdw ict groningen
 
 Someone asked this just a couple of weeks ago. That 
 script will recreate a user.
 
 Take a look through the archives at www.fatcity.com for this.
 
 Recreating the roles is a simple exercise I'll leave to you.
 
 Jared
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RE: What's wrong with this query

2001-09-11 Thread Thomas, Kevin

Anne,


Upon first glance I wondered if it's because you are not specifing the Index
to use for b.
Possibly, you don't have a clause in your where statement that filters the
number of records you're
trying to get back from ucc_master_amendment m.

In the statement:  d.document_number = m.document_number  but what
does m.document_number equal?

Can you see what I'm getting at here? Sorry 8:45am, still a little sleepy
;-)

Regards,
Kev.


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Hey list,   Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this query?

many thanks,


select /*+ INDEX(b)*/ distinct d.batch_number
  , d.document_number
  , d.entry_user_id
  , d.document_type_id
  , d.document_processed_date
  , b.batch_media_id, d.return_Method_Id
from submitter_batch b , document d
  , ucc_master_amendment m
where d.batch_number = b.batch_number
   and d.document_number = m.document_number
   and d.imaged = 0
   and b.batch_media_id = 4
   and d.document_status_id = 4




  Submitter_batch - 97853 rows
  Document-   8043272 rows (fk_d_batchnumber index on
batch_number)
  Ucc_master_adment   -0 rows  (pk_uma_dn index on document_number)





Here is the explain plan:

explain planexpected rows   object name
 

select statement   164662478 
   sort (unique) 164662478
   nested loops 164662478
 nested loops 2008079
   table access(full)  46193  submitted
batch
  table access(by idx)  2008079  document
   index(range scan)  2008079
fk_d_batchnumber non-unique
 index(unique scan) 82
pk_uma_dn unique



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DBMS_JOB statement

2001-09-11 Thread Roland . Skoldblom

Hallo,

Can anyone tell me a example on a script which does the following:

- Starts  a job, a pl/sql-procedur,  at 6 pm  every day,
- If  something goes wrong then I want  information to  be logged.
(Should I include the logging in the pl/sql procedur)


Thanks in  advance


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Migration from Informix to oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Deepender Kr Gupta

Hi All,
Can anybody suggest me the steps to migrate to oracle database from 
Informix ?
Can it be done simply by using sqlloader oracle utility ?
Kindly reply.
Regards,
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RE: query for top customer

2001-09-11 Thread Thomas, Kevin

Thanks Greg,

;-) I needed that! I just got into PL/SQL mode and went for itLOL

Cheers,
Kev.

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 Here's me publishing war-n-peace to solve
 a problem that takes 4 lines of code...

True, but your PL/SQL solution is fast.

Using a correlated subquery to find the top three rows works fine against
EMP, but what happens when it goes against a table with 100,000 rows?  This
subquery runs 100,000 times:

where 3  (select count(*) from tablea y where y.sales  x.sales)

The correlated subquery solution will run forever and a day, and an index
won't help.  If you can't do an in-line view, forget the correlated
subquery, no matter how short it is, and use PL/SQL.

Am I missing something here?

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too high load on Linux

2001-09-11 Thread Andrew Cook

Hello!

I'm new in this list and I sorry for easy and stupid questions and my 
English. :)

I have a 8.1.7 database on Debian 2.2 and the oracle session use nearly 100 
percent of CPU. I listed v$session view and noticed one session do that! 
But how can I get more information for this session ? How can I see what 
this session do ? Any trace log ?

Please help me!

Best regards:

András, Czoch

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NLS_ Client settings

2001-09-11 Thread nlzanen1

Hi All,

Someone came up to me today with a list of 17 NLS parameters and wanted to
know what the settings were on our clients.
I have been able to find some of the parameters in the v$nls_parameters
view and asssume that these are client/session related since they change
with alter session commands.
Anyway I searched the documentation to find the missing ones (like
nls_debit, nls_credit etc..) and only found that the default is derived
from something else, and some OCI function could retrieve them. I do not
have experience with OCI programming so..
Has anybody had the request to list all nls_parameters and created the
script to get them, or is there another/easier way to get them??


TIA


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ORA-12705 - REALLY URGENT

2001-09-11 Thread Viraj Luthra

Hello all,

I am getting an error, ORA-12705, could you please advise what steps I can take to set 
the NLS_LANG properly, this is what it says is needed. Also please tell me what are 
the possible solutions to this problem?

This is really urgent, please help.

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Re: Solaris Hang

2001-09-11 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi,

take a look at the SUN System Administrator Guide. Here's an excerpt:

Every other leap year, your CDE hangs on the 2nd full moon night of
September after you try to write more then 4 files to a floppy disk. To
fix this problem, you have to go to store.sun.com and buy even more
memory.

cheers

 
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Sinardy schrieb:
 
 Hi all,
 
 My Machine Ultra 10 256 MB, Solaris 7
 running :
 
 0. Stand Alone workstation
 1. Oracle 8.1.6 single dbwriter logwriter, noarchive
 2. Hot Java
 3. 3 Text Editors
 4. 2 Terminals
 5. 2 File Managers
 
 When I tried to copy 5 files into floppy my CDE frozen ? and my floppy
 busy light is still on
 What happen ??
 
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Re: ORA-12705 - REALLY URGENT

2001-09-11 Thread nlzanen1


Hi,


What is exactly that you are trying to do.
Alter session? What syntax?
Start the database?
What O/S? What is your environment like  (on UNIX env |grep nls)


Jack




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I am getting an error, ORA-12705, could you please advise what steps I can
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This is really urgent, please help.

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RE: too high load on Linux

2001-09-11 Thread Mark Leith

Hi Andras,

Firstly, welcome to the list, and your English is fine!!

For a good session detail run the following query:

--Sessions.sql---

select s.sid sid,
   s.serial# serial#,
   s.lockwait lockwait,
   0 blkby,
   0 blkcnt,
   s.username session_user,
   s.program program,
   s.osuser osuser,
   s.status status,
   s.server server,
   s.command cmd_code,
   s.terminal terminal,
   s.type session_type,
   a.name command,
   p.pid pid,
   p.spid spid,
   p.username process_user,
   i.block_gets + i.consistent_gets logrds,
   i.physical_reads phyrds,
   i.block_changes + i.consistent_changes writes
  from v$session s,
   v$process p,
   v$sess_io i,
   audit_actions a
 where s.paddr = p.addr
   and s.sid = i.sid
   and s.command = a.action
 order by s.sid,
  s.serial#

-

To find out the currently executing SQL for this session, insert the SID
shown in the previous query for the offending user in to the following
statement, this will show you all of the SQL that the user currently has in
the SQLArea, as well as showing you their currently executing cursor which
is shown with an asterix(*) in the EXECCUR column:

-SessionSQL.sql--

select s.sid sid,
 c.sql_text sql_text,
 c.address address,
 c.hash_value,
 substrb('  ',1,2) execcur
  from v$open_cursor c,
 v$session  s
 where c.saddr = s.saddr
   and c.hash_value != s.sql_hash_value
   and s.sid in (SID)
 union
select s.sid sid,
 c.sql_text sql_text,
 c.address address,
 c.hash_value hash_value,
 substrb('* ',1,2) execcur
  from v$open_cursor c,
 v$session  s
 where c.saddr = s.saddr
   and c.hash_value = s.sql_hash_value
   and s.sid in (SID)

-

You can trace the user, by using the DBMS_SYSTEM package. Again, take a note
of the offending users SID, and SERIAL#, and use the following syntax:

exec sys.dbms_system.set_sql_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE|FALSE);

So assuming the SID is 9, and the serial is 224:

exec sys.dbms_system.set_sql_trace_in_session(9,224,TRUE);

And to stop the trace:

exec sys.dbms_system.set_sql_trace_in_session(9,224,FALSE);

Any trace files generated will be in your user_dump_destination (wherever
that is specified in your initSID.ora file).

I hope this helps,

Regards

Mark

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Hello!

I'm new in this list and I sorry for easy and stupid questions and my
English. :)

I have a 8.1.7 database on Debian 2.2 and the oracle session use nearly 100
percent of CPU. I listed v$session view and noticed one session do that!
But how can I get more information for this session ? How can I see what
this session do ? Any trace log ?

Please help me!

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RE: DBMS_JOB statement

2001-09-11 Thread Thomas, Kevin

Hi Roland,

declare
  l_job number;
begin
  dbms_job.submit( l_job, 'procedure;', 
trunc(sysdate)+18/24, 'trunc(sysdate)+18/24' );
end;

This runs at exactly 6pm every day (18 hours into the day, replace procedure
with the name of the stored procedure that you want to run.

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Hallo,

Can anyone tell me a example on a script which does the following:

- Starts  a job, a pl/sql-procedur,  at 6 pm  every day,
- If  something goes wrong then I want  information to  be logged.
(Should I include the logging in the pl/sql procedur)


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Re: ORA-12705 - REALLY URGENT

2001-09-11 Thread Viraj Luthra

Problem is resolved.


The NLS_LANG was not set correctly in the environment.  

Thanks for all help.

rgds,

raja
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Hi,


What is exactly that you are trying to do.
Alter session? What syntax?
Start the database?
What O/S? What is your environment like  (on UNIX env |grep nls)


Jack




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I am getting an error, ORA-12705, could you please advise what steps I can
take to set the NLS_LANG properly, this is what it says is needed. Also
please tell me what are the possible solutions to this problem?

This is really urgent, please help.

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Replication ??

2001-09-11 Thread Denham Eva

Hi Gurus

We are considering implementing replication, on our server.
Microsoft 2000 Oracle 816. 
Does anyone know of any problems, or I wish I had known that before.
type of issues of doing this?

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RE: query problem

2001-09-11 Thread Mark Leith

Or set define off..

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or ..

If you are doing it in SQLPLUS you can do 

set scan off

That way it will not look for  variables.

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Hi,

I need to run the follwing query:

select * from t_enum_data where id_enum_data ='metrr/usa  canada';

and it is always prompt for value of canada as there is  sign..
how to supress for prompt and use  as constant

Thanks
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Copying backups across a narrow pipe.

2001-09-11 Thread Denham Eva

Hi Gurus

I have a problem in that I have to copy my backups across a wan connection
to a remote server.
However the copy ( using xcopy) in the microsoft NT environment, keeps on
dropping or times out. So the success rate is very low, the Boss is now
becoming difficult about it.
Does anyone know of any tools/Software which I could use to copy the file
across, check the integrity and recopy if it had failed?

Any suggestions will be appreciated
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Ftp from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Roland . Skoldblom

Hallo,

Is it possible to  do ftp commands directly from PL/SQL procedur? Including logon  to 
the ftp server.?
Give me an example please if possible.


Thanks in advance

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Differential Backup

2001-09-11 Thread Ketan Patel

Hi all,
we have oracle server version 8.1.7 on windows NT.
We take daily full backup of our data.
Now we want to take differential backup with respect to last backup
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RE: OT RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-11 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

Ok guys, now tell us how you really feel.  :o)

I just about choked from laughing.

Dave

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Eric, 

I join with you in emptying the contents of my venom sac deep
into the putrid flesh of shitty vendors like Oracle, Microsoft, and 
yes..COMCRAP. 

Getting tired of reading Service is Our Number One Priority when it
is clearly fifth or sixth, directly under. F*cking You Hard When We Can
or Doing Kind of The Best We Feel Like, Depending on the Weather or
You'll Get NOTHING, and LIKE IT, or You're Our Plaything Now That You've
 Drunk from the Proprietary Kool-Aid

Good Customer Service is really really really rare, especially when you 
factor in consistent delivery of same. 

Multibillion dollar corporations that get away with murder on a 
daily basis are...well...a dime a dozen.  

Now I must rest...as my venom sacs once again fill with their sweet liquid
of death

- Ross

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K-

I apparently made the mistake of thinking that the US constitution 
says that there is a right to FREE SPEECH in this friggin country.  

I'm reporting what a reseller is saying about his several years of 
experience, and what bugs the daylights out of the people that 
ACTUALLY PAY MONEY FOR A PRODUCT (known as customers for those that 
have never heard the word before).

Note that the resalescritter was specifically addressing the 
headaches reported by CUSTOMERS at sites using service offerings in 
the SUB-enterprise category.

Anyone feel free to call me an idiot (HELP), that I'm wrong, or 
whatever, but absent the technical merits of a pro-Compaq position 
having been presented in detail, all I hear is someone acting like a 
pissy little fascist.  

My writing wasn't exacty at the level of the Great Bard, but it would 
help if people would read a bit more carefully before they barf.

Speaking of which, I'm sick of all the crap (lying/etc.) from vendors 
and their employees and the friends of their employees, and having 
them expecting the customers to kiss their a$$es all the time because 
they are some big megacorp.

Of course the good news is that I can now go around telling people 
that if they want good services, they should buy IBM since there are 
so many a$$holes in the Compaq world.  

brgrds,
ep

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  From: Kimberly Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:16:35 -0700 
  Subject: RE: Interesting News..
 
 Jon, you need to get some thick skin.  My company is destroyed quite often
 in this list (although it has been a while).
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:50 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Eric:
 
 While I can appreciate that your opinion of the Compaq Services division
 might be less than positive, would you please, for the sake of those who
 actually work for these companies, be a little less dramatic in your
 expression of that opinion.
 
 Jon Walthour
 Oracle Database Administrator
 COMPAQ DBA Team
 Cincinnati, Ohio
 
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 According to our hardware resalescritter: especially for anything 
 below large enterprise level, both HP and Compaq services suck.
 
 so, I guess the objective is to create a new company who services 
 suck even more than either individually?
 
 Synergy!!!
 
 
 
  Guy Hammond wrote:
  
   On the contrary, I'd say this is a godsend for Sun. Compaq made a mess
   of truly epic proportions when they tried to integrate DEC and Tandem
   into their operations. HP did just as badly with Apollo.
 
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RE: Re[2]: RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Why is it that flames rarely have the letters OT in the subject line...

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Re: ORA-12705 - REALLY URGENT

2001-09-11 Thread Christian Trassens

You should look at the values of NLS_LANG and
ORA_NLS33 or ORA_NLS32 in the client. If it is an NT's
client, the values must be defined once and not in
each HOME.

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Downloading from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Sometimes when I download files from the Oracle web sites, I can't use
Download Accelerator Plus.  I like that utility, it downloads files in
parallel.

When I try to download using IE, 90% of the time the large .zip file is
corrupt and unusable.

Has anyone found a way to download the Applications service pack from Oracle
successfully?

TIA
Patrice Boivin
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RE: nvl not using index

2001-09-11 Thread Farnsworth, Dave



Big 
Planet wrote

-I 
am writing this proc does a searchin databasebased on these in 
parameters and returns a ref cursor . Now one moreofthesein 
parameters can be null and my query should return data neglecting null 
parameters . So I use nvl in the query as shown below 

Big Planet, small 
print,,, coincidence??

  -Original Message-From: Big Planet 
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  5:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  nvl not using index
  
  Hi All ,
  I am writing this proc does a searchin 
  databasebased on these in parameters and returns a ref cursor . 
  Now one more of these in parameters can be null and my query should return 
  data neglecting null parameters . So I use nvl in the query as shown below 
  .
  Now my problem is , the query doesnt use index 
  available on table since i m using a function .
  Is there any way I can rewrite this query so 
  that it meets my requirements and use the index . I have other option is to 
  create a dynamic sql based on in parameters .
  TIA for any help .
  -BigP
  
  
  PROCEDURE get_alertlog ( 
  p_loginidvarchar2 ,
   
  p_startdate date,
  p_firstname varchar2 ,
  p_enddate date ,
  p_status out number,
  p_msg out varchar2,
  p_refcursor out c_refcursor )
  Begin
  open p_refcursor for 
  select logpin , logtype , logaction , logdate , memberpin 
  FROM mem
  WHEREloginid 
  =nvl(p_loginid , loginid )
  AND logdate 
  between nvl(p_startdate,to_date('1-jan-1900','dd-mon-') )
  And firstname = nvl( p_firstname , firstname 
  )
  and nvl(p_enddate , sysdate ) ;
  
  
  End 
;


RE: Downloading from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Rajesh Dayal

I am too in the same shoes.

Any help from others??

Rajesh

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Sometimes when I download files from the Oracle web sites, I can't use
Download Accelerator Plus.  I like that utility, it downloads files in
parallel.

When I try to download using IE, 90% of the time the large .zip file is
corrupt and unusable.

Has anyone found a way to download the Applications service pack from
Oracle
successfully?

TIA
Patrice Boivin
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Inserting records into a table without creating indexes

2001-09-11 Thread Rao, Maheswara

List,

Environment: Solaris 7 : Oracle 817 : OLTP system with stringent throughput
requirements

A transaction inserts a record into 4 tables.  After successful insert into
all the four tables, the transaction issues a commit. Many alternate index
keys (AK's) are defined on each table. Expected number of transactions : 300
- 400 transactions per second.

Requirement:

While insert is taking place on the tables, I do not want to create indexes.
Immediately After the transaction is committed, I want to create indexes for
the inserted record.  I do not want disable the indexes during the
transaction processing.

Is the above requirement feasible? Or am I on a wrong path?  Please advise.

Thanks,

Rao

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Re: Copying backups across a narrow pipe.

2001-09-11 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi,

take a look at connect direct. 
It's a data transfer tool that is scriptable and can handle high volumes
at a high transfer rate. 


Denham Eva schrieb:
 
 Hi Gurus
 
 I have a problem in that I have to copy my backups across a wan connection
 to a remote server.
 However the copy ( using xcopy) in the microsoft NT environment, keeps on
 dropping or times out. So the success rate is very low, the Boss is now
 becoming difficult about it.
 Does anyone know of any tools/Software which I could use to copy the file
 across, check the integrity and recopy if it had failed?
 
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Re: Differential Backup

2001-09-11 Thread Christian Trassens

Try with RMAN.

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Re: Differential Backup

2001-09-11 Thread Joe Raube

Take a look at the fine documentation on RMAN.
It can do different levels of incremental backup.

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Re: Replication ??

2001-09-11 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi,

it depends on what kind of replication you want. 
We're using normal snapshots (read only and updatable) and multi
master replication. 
There is an organisational issue concerning multi master replication.
You have to be sure about how you want to replicate. We went with
asynchronous replication, because that way, it doesn't have an impact on
instance A if instance B is down or can't be reached for some other
reason. If you have synchronous replication and you're doing an update
on instance A while instance B is gone, your application that tries the
update might hang, since instance A tries to fire the trigger to do the
update in instance B immediately within the same transaction. 
Also, there are several different ways of conflict resolution. You might
want to take a look at this. 
Once you have everything running, write some scripts to deal with the
errors before they pile up. 


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RE: Downloading from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Thater, William

At 09:15 AM 9/11/2001, you wrote:
I am too in the same shoes.

Any help from others??

Rajesh

i use getright.  seems to work ok for me.




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Re: [Fwd: Re: patch question]

2001-09-11 Thread Joan Hsieh

Anjan,

Thanks, what I thought is I installed the 8170, apply patch 8172, then
upgrade db from 816 to 817.2 directly. (not apply a 817 patch to 816 db)
Anyway, I think I will upgrade first to 817.0 and apply patch to 817.2.

Thanks,

Joan

Anjan Thakuria wrote:
 
 Upgrade and then apply patch. (You could not apply a 817 patch to a 816 db
 could u ??)
 
 Anjan
 
 Joan Hsieh wrote:
 
  Thanks, Joe,
 
  I read the notes. It seems can go either way. I reinstalled the 817 base
  again. My next question puzzled me, should I upgrade database first
  816- 817, then apply the patch, or apply patch goes first? Maybe it
  goes either way. But I'd like to hear some advice first.
 
  Joan
 
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   Joan, check out the release notes for aix patches, if i remember
  correctly: 8.1.7.0 - 8.1.7.18.1.7.0 - 8.1.7.2 8.1.7.1 - 8.1.7.0 -
  8.1.7.2 to go from 8171 to 8172, i think you have to reinstall 8.1.7.0,
  run all scripts, then apply patch and run scripts again. joe
 
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  Hi Listers,
 
  I am asking a simple question today. We have 8.1.6 production database
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  1. I installed 8.1.7 on production already. Can I install 8.1.7.2 patch
  direct on top of 8.1.7 or have to go 8.1.7.1 first?
 
  2. Installed patch first, then upgrade database later or upgrade
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RE: Ftp from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Christopher Spence

Not that I know of through PL/SQL, but you can use Java

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Hallo,

Is it possible to  do ftp commands directly from PL/SQL procedur? Including
logon  to the ftp server.? Give me an example please if possible.


Thanks in advance

Roland


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RE: Do fast full index scans do physical disk reads?

2001-09-11 Thread Christopher Spence

If you read the email as I wrote it, it was a sarcastic response to someone
elses posts.  And a few emails later I reiterated that it was only meant
sarcastically.  But take it as you may.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

Christopher R. Spence 
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Anyone who informs the group of his high IQ is not suffering from humility.
In doing so, one invites the occaisonal barb.  However continuing to do so
would be childish.  

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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 I resent the self-touting, the email you are probably refering to was a
sarcastic one of someone (I believe Mark's) email.  I am actually fairly
humble for the most part.  Although I tend to be quite sarcastic at times
and on email it is sometimes hard to see my humor in most everything I say.


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Yes it's fun getting Chris, our self-touting genuis.  However, the point is
not that unique indexes cannot be compressed, but that the prefix length
canot be mre that one less than the numbewr of coluymns in the index.

Ian A MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Whoa Chris, gotcha on that one. :)

The combination of columns may be unique, but you can certainly compress a
unique index for significant space savings.

The unique index I used in testing had three columns, ordered most selective
first.  By reversing the column order of the index and compressing it, the
index went from 180 Megs to 60 megs.

The cardinality of the new leading column was 26 in table of 1.5 million
rows.

Jared




 

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Yes, there is no point in compressing all columns of a unique index as it
would result in 0% compression as they are unique.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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The restriction is on unique indexes.

  1* select column_name from dba_ind_COLUMNS where INDEX_NAME = 'WOLO_PK'
SQL /

COLUMN_NAME




PERSON_ID
INSTITUTION_CODE

ALTER INDEX CASEPUPPY.WOLO_PK
REBUILD COMPRESS 2 TABLESPACE PEPII_INDEX
/

REBUILD COMPRESS 2 TABLESPACE PEPII_INDEX
*
ERROR at line 2:
ORA-25194: invalid COMPRESS prefix length value

 ALTER INDEX CASEPUPPY.WOLO_PK
 REBUILD COMPRESS 1 TABLESPACE PEPII_INDEX
/

Index altered.




This was done on an 8.1.6.3 database.  As far as what's done in practice, I
would hazard accepting the Oracle defaults for prefix length values is the
most common.  The documentation states:

For unique indexes, the valid range of prefix length values is from 1 to
the number of key columns minus 1. The default prefix length is the number
  of key columns minus 1.

  For nonunique indexes, the valid range of
prefix length values is from 1 to the number of key columns. The default
prefix length is the number of
  key columns.


Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Actually you can create compressed indexes upto the size of the columns. In
other words, the last column in a concentated index can be compressed.
Although most practice does not.


Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, 

RE: Copying backups across a narrow pipe.

2001-09-11 Thread Hillman, Alex

And where can I get that look?

Alex Hillman

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Hi,

take a look at connect direct. 
It's a data transfer tool that is scriptable and can handle high volumes
at a high transfer rate. 


Denham Eva schrieb:
 
 Hi Gurus
 
 I have a problem in that I have to copy my backups across a wan connection
 to a remote server.
 However the copy ( using xcopy) in the microsoft NT environment, keeps on
 dropping or times out. So the success rate is very low, the Boss is now
 becoming difficult about it.
 Does anyone know of any tools/Software which I could use to copy the file
 across, check the integrity and recopy if it had failed?
 
 Any suggestions will be appreciated
 Many Thanks
 Denham
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RE: OT RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

Now for my encore, I'll crash into the World Trade Center.

EG

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Ok guys, now tell us how you really feel.  :o)

I just about choked from laughing.

Dave

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Eric, 

I join with you in emptying the contents of my venom sac deep
into the putrid flesh of shitty vendors like Oracle, Microsoft, and 
yes..COMCRAP. 

Getting tired of reading Service is Our Number One Priority when it
is clearly fifth or sixth, directly under. F*cking You Hard When We Can
or Doing Kind of The Best We Feel Like, Depending on the Weather or
You'll Get NOTHING, and LIKE IT, or You're Our Plaything Now That You've
 Drunk from the Proprietary Kool-Aid

Good Customer Service is really really really rare, especially when you 
factor in consistent delivery of same. 

Multibillion dollar corporations that get away with murder on a 
daily basis are...well...a dime a dozen.  

Now I must rest...as my venom sacs once again fill with their sweet liquid
of death

- Ross

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K-

I apparently made the mistake of thinking that the US constitution 
says that there is a right to FREE SPEECH in this friggin country.  

I'm reporting what a reseller is saying about his several years of 
experience, and what bugs the daylights out of the people that 
ACTUALLY PAY MONEY FOR A PRODUCT (known as customers for those that 
have never heard the word before).

Note that the resalescritter was specifically addressing the 
headaches reported by CUSTOMERS at sites using service offerings in 
the SUB-enterprise category.

Anyone feel free to call me an idiot (HELP), that I'm wrong, or 
whatever, but absent the technical merits of a pro-Compaq position 
having been presented in detail, all I hear is someone acting like a 
pissy little fascist.  

My writing wasn't exacty at the level of the Great Bard, but it would 
help if people would read a bit more carefully before they barf.

Speaking of which, I'm sick of all the crap (lying/etc.) from vendors 
and their employees and the friends of their employees, and having 
them expecting the customers to kiss their a$$es all the time because 
they are some big megacorp.

Of course the good news is that I can now go around telling people 
that if they want good services, they should buy IBM since there are 
so many a$$holes in the Compaq world.  

brgrds,
ep

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  From: Kimberly Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:16:35 -0700 
  Subject: RE: Interesting News..
 
 Jon, you need to get some thick skin.  My company is destroyed quite often
 in this list (although it has been a while).
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:50 AM
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 Eric:
 
 While I can appreciate that your opinion of the Compaq Services division
 might be less than positive, would you please, for the sake of those who
 actually work for these companies, be a little less dramatic in your
 expression of that opinion.
 
 Jon Walthour
 Oracle Database Administrator
 COMPAQ DBA Team
 Cincinnati, Ohio
 
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 According to our hardware resalescritter: especially for anything 
 below large enterprise level, both HP and Compaq services suck.
 
 so, I guess the objective is to create a new company who services 
 suck even more than either individually?
 
 Synergy!!!
 
 
 
  Guy Hammond wrote:
  
   On the contrary, I'd say this is a godsend for Sun. Compaq made a mess
   of truly epic proportions when they tried to integrate DEC and Tandem
   into their operations. HP did just as badly with Apollo.
 
 ...


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RE: Downloading from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Mark Leith

What is the problem with using DAP to do the download?

Failing getting this working - as it almost guarantees a valid download -
have you also tried some of the other download aids (getright, or real
download for example)? I do agree, DAP is the best I have come across so
far..

What is the error you are getting? not a valid archive file? Is the
downloaded file size the same as the reported file size on the web page?

I have never seemed to have a problem with DAP on the Oracle sites..

Mark

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Dayal
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I am too in the same shoes.

Any help from others??

Rajesh

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Sometimes when I download files from the Oracle web sites, I can't use
Download Accelerator Plus.  I like that utility, it downloads files in
parallel.

When I try to download using IE, 90% of the time the large .zip file is
corrupt and unusable.

Has anyone found a way to download the Applications service pack from
Oracle
successfully?

TIA
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Acting Head
Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

The BBC seems to have more info than the U.S. web sites.

Tuesday, 11 September, 2001, 13:35 GMT 14:35
  UK 
  Planes 'attack' World Trade Center

  A huge explosion rocks one of towers
  Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center
  in New York City while an explosion has rocked the
  Pentagon in Washington DC. 

  The White House is reportedly being evacuated. 

  One report says six people have been killed in the
  New York incident while hundreds have been injured. 

  Smoke is pouring from the upper storeys of both
  towers of the World Trade Center. 

  The building, one of the world's tallest, has been badly
  damaged in what President George W Bush has
  described as an apparent terrorist attack. 

  He said: We will find those who committed this
  attack. 

  New York police have been
  quoted as saying that both
  planes were hijacked from
  Boston. 

  A few minutes after the
  first tower was hit by a
  passenger plane, a
  second, similar plane was
  seen flying into the second
  tower. A huge explosion
  was seen. 

  Eyewitnesses say the first
  plane crashed into the West Tower after flying
  unusually low over Manhattan Island. 

  A BBC correspondent says 10 to 15 floors have been
  affected by the crash. 

  Briton James Winter, 30, living in an apartment close
  to the centre, said he was woken a huge bang at
  around 0800 local time. 

  I was in bed and there was a huge explosion. The
  whole building rattled and shook, he said. 

  I ran to the window and there was smoke billowing
  from the south side of one of the towers. Everyone in
  my building was panicking and running around. 

  The World Trade Center consists of two 110-story
  skyscrapers, New York's tallest buildings. One of the
  towers is just six feet (two metres) taller than the
  other. 

  About 40,000 people work inside the two-building
  centre, and more than 150,000 people enter the
  complex every day. 

  On 26 February, 1993, a terrorist bomb exploded in
  building number one's lower level.


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FW: nvl not using index

2001-09-11 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: FW: nvl not using index





BigPee, 


Have you tried a function-based index yet? (8i) You'll need to grant query rewrite privilege to the user creating the index.

Lisa Koivu
Glorified Typist and DBA
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA


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Subject: RE: nvl not using index


Big Planet wrote
 
-I am writing this proc does a search in database based on these  in parameters and returns a ref cursor . Now one more of these in parameters can be null and my query should return data neglecting null parameters . So I use nvl in the query as shown below 

 
Big Planet, small print,,, coincidence??


-Original Message-
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Subject: nvl not using index


Hi All ,


I am writing this proc does a search in database based on these  in parameters and returns a ref cursor . Now one more of these in parameters can be null and my query should return data neglecting null parameters . So I use nvl in the query as shown below .

Now my problem is , the query doesnt use index available on table since i m using a function .


Is there any way I can rewrite this query so that it meets my requirements and use the index . I have other option is to create a  dynamic sql based on in parameters .

TIA for any help .


-BigP


 


 


PROCEDURE get_alertlog ( p_loginid varchar2  ,


    p_startdate date,


p_firstname varchar2 ,


p_enddate date ,


p_status out number,


p_msg out varchar2,


p_refcursor out c_refcursor )


Begin


open p_refcursor for 


select logpin , logtype , logaction , logdate , memberpin 


FROM mem


WHERE loginid =nvl(p_loginid , loginid  )


AND logdate between nvl(p_startdate,to_date('1-jan-1900','dd-mon-') )


And  firstname = nvl( p_firstname , firstname )


and nvl(p_enddate , sysdate ) ;


 


 


End ;





OT: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Mark Leith

List,

I am sure many of you Americans will have woken to this news, or maybe you
got to work before it happened:

I just saw on the news the World Trade Centre in NY, has just taken two
direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! Suspected to be a terrorist
assault.  Full video the lot!! They hit around the top of the buildings..

My heart goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS do for the
American economy?

Mark

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RE: What's wrong with this query

2001-09-11 Thread Anne Yu

Thanks Thomas, Lisa, Attached is the  TKPROF EXPLAIN PLAN for this
query.Please review.

Many thanks,


TKPROF: Release 8.0.6.3.0 - Production on Tue Sep 11 07:38:26 2001

(c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Trace file: texasprd_ora_24718.trc
Sort options: default



count= number of times OCI procedure was executed
cpu  = cpu time in seconds executing 
elapsed  = elapsed time in seconds executing
disk = number of physical reads of buffers from disk
query= number of buffers gotten for consistent read
current  = number of buffers gotten in current mode (usually for update)
rows = number of rows processed by the fetch or execute call



alter session set sql_trace = true


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0

Misses in library cache during parse: 0
Misses in library cache during execute: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 111  



BEGIN DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO.SET_MODULE(:1,NULL); END;


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse4  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
Execute  4  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
4
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total8  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
4

Misses in library cache during parse: 0
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 111  



select /*+ INDEX(b)*/ distinct d.batch_number
  , d.document_number
  , d.entry_user_id
  , d.document_type_id
  , d.document_processed_date
  , b.batch_media_id, d.return_Method_Id
from submitter_batch b , document d
  , ucc_master_amendment m
where d.batch_number = b.batch_number
   and d.document_number = m.document_number
   and d.imaged = 0
   and b.batch_media_id = 4
   and d.document_status_id = 4

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
Fetch1  0.00   0.00 32   3193  0
0
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total3  0.00   0.00 32   3193  0
0

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 111  

Rows Row Source Operation
---  ---
  0  SORT UNIQUE 
  0   NESTED LOOPS 
  1NESTED LOOPS 
147 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID SUBMITTER_BATCH 
148  INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 10416)
   2722 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID DOCUMENT 
   2869  INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 10385)
  1INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 8484)




explain plan set statement_id='ANN_UCC_3'
for select /*+ INDEX(b)*/ distinct d.batch_number
  , d.document_number
  , d.entry_user_id
  , d.document_type_id
  , d.document_processed_date
  , b.batch_media_id, d.return_Method_Id
from submitter_batch b , document d
  , ucc_master_amendment m
where d.batch_number = b.batch_number
   and d.document_number = m.document_number
   and d.imaged = 0
   and b.batch_media_id = 4
   and d.document_status_id = 4

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total2  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 111  

Rows Row Source Operation
---  

RE: Ftp from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Thomas, Kevin

Hi Roland,

Yes it is possible, I have got a piece of code that I got from the site
asktom.oracle.com, that allows you to send Unix commands to the shell from
within SQL. I'm making the assumption that it's a Unix environment you want
to make the call within?

If it is, give me a shout and I'll let you have the code...

Regards,
Kev.


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Hallo,

Is it possible to  do ftp commands directly from PL/SQL procedur? Including
logon  to the ftp server.?
Give me an example please if possible.


Thanks in advance

Roland


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Re: Downloading from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread VeniVas

r all our friends OK in WTC disaster ??

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 At 09:15 AM 9/11/2001, you wrote:
 I am too in the same shoes.
 
 Any help from others??
 
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Re: Snapshot Refresh Process ??

2001-09-11 Thread tday6

I'm interested in the cutover point.  Our snapshots are set up with FORCE,
which allows Oracle to choose between a FAST or a COMPLETE.  But at what
point does Oracle decide that it will be faster to do the complete?  Does
Oracle need to have the tables analyzed so that it has some statistics to
work with?  Obviously, I'm unclear on the whole thing.



   
 
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At times it is faster to do a complete refresh of an oracle snapshot rather
than an incremental (fast).  My question is how do you know when to do the
complete?  For example, there are times when a user will run a conversion
and
they may update 10% of the rows in the master table.   If I do a fast
refresh
it may take 4 hours but if I did a complete it takes 2 hours.  I have not
seen
a pattern in determing the breakeven point.  For example, one table we may
update 20% of the rows and the incremental is faster other times we update
5%
of the rows in a different table and the complete would have been an better
option.  (Don't quote me on the percentages, just trying to make a point)
I
remember seeing a reference to this issue that it was addressed at ioug
conference years ago, but I did not find anything there.  So again the
question:  What factor(s) should be considered to determine which
process(fast
or complete) will provide for a faster refresh for higher than normal
updates
to a master table?  Thanks


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How can I read this dump

2001-09-11 Thread Pablo ksksksk

Hi list
   I've done a sql_trace_in_session of a user process
and I'm getting a big dump. I'm just curious about
this line in particular:

PARSE
#34:c=7,e=8,p=0,cr=8,cu=2,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=3,tim=1236949953

What does tim mean? How can I read it? 

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RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

So, as you devote the extra minutes to your job, does this mean COMPAQ
customer
service will get better or worse?

EG

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After thinking about this whole thing further, I realize I've made a
terrible mistake. I've stooped to his level rather than stay mature about
the whole thing and let it go. It won't happen again. To all of you who've
had to receive these messages, I'm sorry. I'm done with this thread.

Jon Walthour

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Jon,

Believe it or not, some people *DO* know they are getting screwed 
even if the person doing it is being superficially polite.

regards,
ep

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 Eric:
  
 I wasn't being a pissy little fascist as you call it. I was 
 attempting to be respectful of you, courteous and professional. But, 
 since you obviously insist on responding like the child you are, let 
 me say, Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never 
 hurt me. :-P
  
 Who pissed in your Cheerios this morning?
  
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New York/East Coast !!!!

2001-09-11 Thread Stephen Andert

I sure hope our members on the East Coast are ok.  If anyone is out there and has 
access, I'd be happy to pass along any messages to family, etc. 

Let us know if you guys are ok.

Stephen Andert


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Re: OT: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread DENISE

Looks like the Pentagon was also just bombed.

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RE: OT RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-11 Thread Allen R. Lucas


very inappropriate, considering the situation



   
   
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Now for my encore, I'll crash into the World Trade Center.

EG

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Ok guys, now tell us how you really feel.  :o)

I just about choked from laughing.

Dave

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Eric,

I join with you in emptying the contents of my venom sac deep
into the putrid flesh of shitty vendors like Oracle, Microsoft, and
yes..COMCRAP.

Getting tired of reading Service is Our Number One Priority when it
is clearly fifth or sixth, directly under. F*cking You Hard When We Can
or Doing Kind of The Best We Feel Like, Depending on the Weather or
You'll Get NOTHING, and LIKE IT, or You're Our Plaything Now That You've
 Drunk from the Proprietary Kool-Aid

Good Customer Service is really really really rare, especially when you
factor in consistent delivery of same.

Multibillion dollar corporations that get away with murder on a
daily basis are...well...a dime a dozen.

Now I must rest...as my venom sacs once again fill with their sweet liquid
of death

- Ross

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K-

I apparently made the mistake of thinking that the US constitution
says that there is a right to FREE SPEECH in this friggin country.

I'm reporting what a reseller is saying about his several years of
experience, and what bugs the daylights out of the people that
ACTUALLY PAY MONEY FOR A PRODUCT (known as customers for those that
have never heard the word before).

Note that the resalescritter was specifically addressing the
headaches reported by CUSTOMERS at sites using service offerings in
the SUB-enterprise category.

Anyone feel free to call me an idiot (HELP), that I'm wrong, or
whatever, but absent the technical merits of a pro-Compaq position
having been presented in detail, all I hear is someone acting like a
pissy little fascist.

My writing wasn't exacty at the level of the Great Bard, but it would
help if people would read a bit more carefully before they barf.

Speaking of which, I'm sick of all the crap (lying/etc.) from vendors
and their employees and the friends of their employees, and having
them expecting the customers to kiss their a$$es all the time because
they are some big megacorp.

Of course the good news is that I can now go around telling people
that if they want good services, they should buy IBM since there are
so many a$$holes in the Compaq world.

brgrds,
ep

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OT

2001-09-11 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: OT





I hope everyone on this list in the New York area is safe I am so scared.


Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Administrator
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Sad News - Jets crashed into World Trade Center

2001-09-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Did anyone see this?

2 small jets crashed into World Trade Center in NY shortly before 9am. 

I feel horrible and sorry for all the people suffered.

Raj
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RE: Do fast full index scans do physical disk reads?

2001-09-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

Awww, come on, Chris.  

You're starting to sound like a COMPAQ customer service rep. 
;-)

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If you read the email as I wrote it, it was a sarcastic response to someone
elses posts.  And a few emails later I reiterated that it was only meant
sarcastically.  But take it as you may.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Anyone who informs the group of his high IQ is not suffering from humility.
In doing so, one invites the occaisonal barb.  However continuing to do so
would be childish.  

Ian MacGregor
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 I resent the self-touting, the email you are probably refering to was a
sarcastic one of someone (I believe Mark's) email.  I am actually fairly
humble for the most part.  Although I tend to be quite sarcastic at times
and on email it is sometimes hard to see my humor in most everything I say.


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Yes it's fun getting Chris, our self-touting genuis.  However, the point is
not that unique indexes cannot be compressed, but that the prefix length
canot be mre that one less than the numbewr of coluymns in the index.

Ian A MacGregor
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Whoa Chris, gotcha on that one. :)

The combination of columns may be unique, but you can certainly compress a
unique index for significant space savings.

The unique index I used in testing had three columns, ordered most selective
first.  By reversing the column order of the index and compressing it, the
index went from 180 Megs to 60 megs.

The cardinality of the new leading column was 26 in table of 1.5 million
rows.

Jared




 

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Yes, there is no point in compressing all columns of a unique index as it
would result in 0% compression as they are unique.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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The restriction is on unique indexes.

  1* select column_name from dba_ind_COLUMNS where INDEX_NAME = 'WOLO_PK'
SQL /

COLUMN_NAME




PERSON_ID
INSTITUTION_CODE

ALTER INDEX CASEPUPPY.WOLO_PK
REBUILD COMPRESS 2 TABLESPACE PEPII_INDEX
/

REBUILD COMPRESS 2 TABLESPACE PEPII_INDEX
*
ERROR at line 2:
ORA-25194: invalid COMPRESS prefix length value

 ALTER INDEX CASEPUPPY.WOLO_PK
 REBUILD COMPRESS 1 TABLESPACE PEPII_INDEX
/

Index altered.




This was done on an 8.1.6.3 database.  As far as what's done in practice, I
would hazard accepting the Oracle defaults for prefix length values is the
most common.  The documentation states:

For unique indexes, the valid range of prefix length values is from 1 to
the number of key columns minus 1. The default prefix length is the number
  of key columns minus 1.

  For nonunique indexes, the valid range of
prefix length values is from 1 to the number of key columns. The default
prefix length is the number of
  key columns.


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Actually you can create compressed indexes 

RE: OT RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-11 Thread Weaver, Walt

Not funny, Ross.

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana

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Now for my encore, I'll crash into the World Trade Center.

EG

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RE: Ftp from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Kevin Lange

The only way I would think would be an External Procedure.

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Not that I know of through PL/SQL, but you can use Java

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when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Hallo,

Is it possible to  do ftp commands directly from PL/SQL procedur? Including
logon  to the ftp server.? Give me an example please if possible.


Thanks in advance

Roland


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today is disaster recovery drill day

2001-09-11 Thread Paul Drake

burn your .dmp to CDs and head for the hills.
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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Capitol Hill?  Are you sure?

Pat.

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 The south Tower of the World Trade Center is no more. and Capitol Hill and
 the Pentagon have been hit also.
 
 hope all from the list who work in the vicinity are OK.
 
 
 
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 List,
 
 I am sure many of you Americans will have woken to this news, or maybe you
 got to work before it happened:
 
 I just saw on the news the World Trade Centre in NY, has just taken two
 direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! Suspected to be a terrorist
 assault.  Full video the lot!! They hit around the top of the buildings..
 
 My heart goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS do for the
 American economy?
 
 Mark
 
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OT Breaking News

2001-09-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

Off topic and serious for once;

The World Trade Towers, the Pentagon, the USA Today building
have all been hit by bombs. The first is quite major. 

There is word here in DC that they are evacuating people from
around the White House. 
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RE: Sad News - Jets crashed into World Trade Center

2001-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Small... 1 DC-3 and one Boeing 767.

Pat.

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 2 small jets crashed into World Trade Center in NY shortly before 9am. 
 
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RE: OT RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-11 Thread Christopher Spence

Agreed 110%, that was just wrong.
Friends have died this event.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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very inappropriate, considering the situation



 

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Now for my encore, I'll crash into the World Trade Center.

EG

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Ok guys, now tell us how you really feel.  :o)

I just about choked from laughing.

Dave

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Eric,

I join with you in emptying the contents of my venom sac deep into the
putrid flesh of shitty vendors like Oracle, Microsoft, and yes..COMCRAP.

Getting tired of reading Service is Our Number One Priority when it is
clearly fifth or sixth, directly under. F*cking You Hard When We Can or
Doing Kind of The Best We Feel Like, Depending on the Weather or You'll
Get NOTHING, and LIKE IT, or You're Our Plaything Now That You've  Drunk
from the Proprietary Kool-Aid

Good Customer Service is really really really rare, especially when you
factor in consistent delivery of same.

Multibillion dollar corporations that get away with murder on a daily basis
are...well...a dime a dozen.

Now I must rest...as my venom sacs once again fill with their sweet liquid
of death

- Ross

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K-

I apparently made the mistake of thinking that the US constitution says that
there is a right to FREE SPEECH in this friggin country.

I'm reporting what a reseller is saying about his several years of
experience, and what bugs the daylights out of the people that ACTUALLY PAY
MONEY FOR A PRODUCT (known as customers for those that have never heard
the word before).

Note that the resalescritter was specifically addressing the headaches
reported by CUSTOMERS at sites using service offerings in the
SUB-enterprise category.

Anyone feel free to call me an idiot (HELP), that I'm wrong, or whatever,
but absent the technical merits of a pro-Compaq position having been
presented in detail, all I hear is someone acting like a pissy little
fascist.

My writing wasn't exacty at the level of the Great Bard, but it would help
if people would read a bit more carefully before they barf.

Speaking of which, I'm sick of all the crap (lying/etc.) from vendors and
their employees and the friends of their employees, and having them
expecting the customers to kiss their a$$es all the time because they are
some big megacorp.

Of course the good news is that I can now go around telling people that if
they want good services, they should buy IBM since there are so many
a$$holes in the Compaq world.

brgrds,
ep

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  Subject: RE: Interesting News..

 Jon, you need to get some thick skin.  My company is destroyed quite
often
 in this list (although it has been a while).

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 Eric:

 While I can appreciate that your opinion of the Compaq Services 
 division might be less than positive, would you please, for the sake 
 of those who actually work for these companies, be a little less 
 dramatic in your expression of that opinion.

 Jon Walthour
 Oracle Database Administrator
 COMPAQ DBA Team
 Cincinnati, Ohio

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 According to our hardware resalescritter: especially for anything 
 below large enterprise level, both HP and Compaq services suck.

 so, I guess the objective is to create a new company who services suck 
 even more than either individually?

 Synergy!!!



  Guy Hammond wrote:
  
   On the contrary, I'd say this is a godsend for Sun. Compaq made a
mess
   of truly epic proportions when they 

RE: Ftp from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Thomas, Kevin

It's possible if you setup a shell script which continually polls for
information coming through on a DBMS_PIPE. A procedure within the database
sends messages onto the pipe (the messages being Unix commands), the shell
script then takes these commands from the pipe and builds another shell
script on the fly containing the Unix command, this is then executed thereby
running the unix command.

Haven't tried it with an FTP command but there's no reason why you can't
build your entire FTP script up as a shell script and then issue the command
from within sql to run the script using the method above.

Cheers,
K.

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Not that I know of through PL/SQL, but you can use Java

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Hallo,

Is it possible to  do ftp commands directly from PL/SQL procedur? Including
logon  to the ftp server.? Give me an example please if possible.


Thanks in advance

Roland


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RE: Ftp from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Mark Leith

Hi Kev,

Mind just posting the code to the list? I'm sure there will be many
responses to yourself asking for this code, so it may be easier just to post
it directly..

Cheers

Mark

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Hi Roland,

Yes it is possible, I have got a piece of code that I got from the site
asktom.oracle.com, that allows you to send Unix commands to the shell from
within SQL. I'm making the assumption that it's a Unix environment you want
to make the call within?

If it is, give me a shout and I'll let you have the code...

Regards,
Kev.


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Hallo,

Is it possible to  do ftp commands directly from PL/SQL procedur? Including
logon  to the ftp server.?
Give me an example please if possible.


Thanks in advance

Roland


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RE: New York/East Coast !!!!

2001-09-11 Thread Giles, Teri

Is there anyway we can submit names of family members in NY

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RE: Ftp from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Thomas, Kevin

Are my emails getting through to this list???

I did send a couple of responses regarding this one but I haven't personally
seen them..

K. :(

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The only way I would think would be an External Procedure.

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Not that I know of through PL/SQL, but you can use Java

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Hallo,

Is it possible to  do ftp commands directly from PL/SQL procedur? Including
logon  to the ftp server.? Give me an example please if possible.


Thanks in advance

Roland


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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

The south Tower of the World Trade Center is no more. and Capitol Hill and
the Pentagon have been hit also.

hope all from the list who work in the vicinity are OK.



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List,

I am sure many of you Americans will have woken to this news, or maybe you
got to work before it happened:

I just saw on the news the World Trade Centre in NY, has just taken two
direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! Suspected to be a terrorist
assault.  Full video the lot!! They hit around the top of the buildings..

My heart goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS do for the
American economy?

Mark

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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Kevin Lange

Its now
1. BOTH tower have fallen.
2. Pentagon hit by a plane.
3. All flights in US grounded

And I am sure more to follow

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The BBC seems to have more info than the U.S. web sites.

Tuesday, 11 September, 2001, 13:35 GMT 14:35
  UK 
  Planes 'attack' World Trade Center

  A huge explosion rocks one of towers
  Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center
  in New York City while an explosion has rocked the
  Pentagon in Washington DC. 

  The White House is reportedly being evacuated. 

  One report says six people have been killed in the
  New York incident while hundreds have been injured. 

  Smoke is pouring from the upper storeys of both
  towers of the World Trade Center. 

  The building, one of the world's tallest, has been badly
  damaged in what President George W Bush has
  described as an apparent terrorist attack. 

  He said: We will find those who committed this
  attack. 

  New York police have been
  quoted as saying that both
  planes were hijacked from
  Boston. 

  A few minutes after the
  first tower was hit by a
  passenger plane, a
  second, similar plane was
  seen flying into the second
  tower. A huge explosion
  was seen. 

  Eyewitnesses say the first
  plane crashed into the West Tower after flying
  unusually low over Manhattan Island. 

  A BBC correspondent says 10 to 15 floors have been
  affected by the crash. 

  Briton James Winter, 30, living in an apartment close
  to the centre, said he was woken a huge bang at
  around 0800 local time. 

  I was in bed and there was a huge explosion. The
  whole building rattled and shook, he said. 

  I ran to the window and there was smoke billowing
  from the south side of one of the towers. Everyone in
  my building was panicking and running around. 

  The World Trade Center consists of two 110-story
  skyscrapers, New York's tallest buildings. One of the
  towers is just six feet (two metres) taller than the
  other. 

  About 40,000 people work inside the two-building
  centre, and more than 150,000 people enter the
  complex every day. 

  On 26 February, 1993, a terrorist bomb exploded in
  building number one's lower level.


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Re: OT: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Paul Drake

we just lost the 2nd tower.

Mark Leith wrote:
 
 List,
 
 I am sure many of you Americans will have woken to this news, or maybe you
 got to work before it happened:
 
 I just saw on the news the World Trade Centre in NY, has just taken two
 direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! Suspected to be a terrorist
 assault.  Full video the lot!! They hit around the top of the buildings..
 
 My heart goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS do for the
 American economy?
 
 Mark

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RE: Downloading from Oracle

2001-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

No, DAP just doesn't kick in, even when it is browser enabled.

I have been able to use DAP for many Oracle files, but it's that server in
the east that doesn't allow DAP.  The server hosts the Applications
maintenance sets.

Pat.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Leith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:50 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Downloading from Oracle
 
 What is the problem with using DAP to do the download?
 
 Failing getting this working - as it almost guarantees a valid download -
 have you also tried some of the other download aids (getright, or real
 download for example)? I do agree, DAP is the best I have come across so
 far..
 
 What is the error you are getting? not a valid archive file? Is the
 downloaded file size the same as the reported file size on the web page?
 
 I have never seemed to have a problem with DAP on the Oracle sites..
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 Dayal
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 14:15
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I am too in the same shoes.
 
 Any help from others??
 
 Rajesh
 
 -Original Message-
 Patrice J
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:35 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Sometimes when I download files from the Oracle web sites, I can't use
 Download Accelerator Plus.  I like that utility, it downloads files in
 parallel.
 
 When I try to download using IE, 90% of the time the large .zip file is
 corrupt and unusable.
 
 Has anyone found a way to download the Applications service pack from
 Oracle
 successfully?
 
 TIA
 Patrice Boivin
 Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
 
 Acting Head
 Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
 Technology Services| Services technologiques
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Re:User Query Tools

2001-09-11 Thread dgoulet

Stephen,

We are in the end of just such a task for our end users.  Consequently I'm
going to forward your message to the project lead here.  We looked at Brio
Reports, Oracle's Discoverer 4i and Cognos Query.  We limited our search to
these for certain reasons, which I won't elaborate on.  Of the three I'll state
a Personal preference for Brio's product.  But since the end users are the real
deciding force the 'jury is still out'.

Dick Goulet
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Author: Stephen Andert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   9/10/2001 2:52 PM

Hey all, 

I just got out from a meeting where I was told that some of our users are asking
for a tool to do their own queries against our database so they wouldn't have to
request reports and such from IS.  Oh BTW, they don't know (or feel the need to
learn) SQL so they will be needing something with either a good GUI QBF or some
kind of natural language interface.  

We are leaning against MS Query to avoid ODBC performance problems.

Does anyone out there have users like this?  Any product referrals with
pros/cons?  

TIA


If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or drop me a note.

Stephen Andert
480-445-2506

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asking for a tool to do their own queries against our database so they wouldn't 
have to request reports and such from IS.nbsp; Oh BTW, they don't know (or feel

the need to learn) SQL so they will be needing something with either a good GUI 
QBF or some kind of natural language interface.nbsp; /DIV
DIVnbsp;/DIV
DIVWe are leaning against MS Query to avoid ODBC performance problems./DIV
DIVnbsp;/DIV
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referrals with pros/cons?nbsp; /DIV
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RE: OT

2001-09-11 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: Message



Similar wishes here. I wish the best for all 
involved.
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a 
mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and 
have their shoes."
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax: (707) 885-2275 
Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863  

  
  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 
  2001 11:15 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: OT
  I hope everyone on this list in the New York area is 
  safe I am so scared. 
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Database 
  Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
  954-935-4117 


RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Miller, Jay

Both buildings have now completely collapsed.  I first found out about it
when I stepped out of the PATH train station and saw the flames.

Currently I'm stranded in New Jersey and going a little crazy about some
friends that work in dowtown NYC, but otherwise I'm fine.

My prayers are with all list members in the area or with friends and
relatives in the area.

Jay Miller

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


The BBC seems to have more info than the U.S. web sites.

Tuesday, 11 September, 2001, 13:35 GMT 14:35
  UK 
  Planes 'attack' World Trade Center

  A huge explosion rocks one of towers
  Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center
  in New York City while an explosion has rocked the
  Pentagon in Washington DC. 

  The White House is reportedly being evacuated. 

  One report says six people have been killed in the
  New York incident while hundreds have been injured. 

  Smoke is pouring from the upper storeys of both
  towers of the World Trade Center. 

  The building, one of the world's tallest, has been badly
  damaged in what President George W Bush has
  described as an apparent terrorist attack. 

  He said: We will find those who committed this
  attack. 

  New York police have been
  quoted as saying that both
  planes were hijacked from
  Boston. 

  A few minutes after the
  first tower was hit by a
  passenger plane, a
  second, similar plane was
  seen flying into the second
  tower. A huge explosion
  was seen. 

  Eyewitnesses say the first
  plane crashed into the West Tower after flying
  unusually low over Manhattan Island. 

  A BBC correspondent says 10 to 15 floors have been
  affected by the crash. 

  Briton James Winter, 30, living in an apartment close
  to the centre, said he was woken a huge bang at
  around 0800 local time. 

  I was in bed and there was a huge explosion. The
  whole building rattled and shook, he said. 

  I ran to the window and there was smoke billowing
  from the south side of one of the towers. Everyone in
  my building was panicking and running around. 

  The World Trade Center consists of two 110-story
  skyscrapers, New York's tallest buildings. One of the
  towers is just six feet (two metres) taller than the
  other. 

  About 40,000 people work inside the two-building
  centre, and more than 150,000 people enter the
  complex every day. 

  On 26 February, 1993, a terrorist bomb exploded in
  building number one's lower level.


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Re: OT: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Rodd Holman

Actually the World Trade Center is no more.  Both towers have collapsed 
in on themselves.
As for the economy, it will have global implications.  Rachel, are you on 
today?  How close is all this to you?

Rodd

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OT: STOP THE PRESS!!:


 List,

 I am sure many of you Americans will have woken to this news, or maybe 
you
 got to work before it happened:

 I just saw on the news the World Trade Centre in NY, has just taken two
 direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! Suspected to be a terrorist
 assault.  Full video the lot!! They hit around the top of the buildings..

 My heart goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS do for the
 American economy?

 Mark

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RE: OT

2001-09-11 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn
Title: OT



this 
is the most bizarre day of my entire life. I watched the second tower 
collapse from my office window. I basically just feel completely sick to 
my stomach right now. I hope that there is no one on this list from 
NYC.
kk

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  safe I am so scared. 
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RE: OT Breaking News

2001-09-11 Thread Christopher Spence

They were actually planes and not bombs.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Off topic and serious for once;

The World Trade Towers, the Pentagon, the USA Today building have all been
hit by bombs. The first is quite major. 

There is word here in DC that they are evacuating people from around the
White House. 
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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Yep, according to the live news

Lee


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Capitol Hill?  Are you sure?

Pat.

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 Subject:  RE: STOP THE PRESS!!
 
 The south Tower of the World Trade Center is no more. and Capitol Hill and
 the Pentagon have been hit also.
 
 hope all from the list who work in the vicinity are OK.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 11 September 2001 15:25
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 List,
 
 I am sure many of you Americans will have woken to this news, or maybe you
 got to work before it happened:
 
 I just saw on the news the World Trade Centre in NY, has just taken two
 direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! Suspected to be a terrorist
 assault.  Full video the lot!! They hit around the top of the buildings..
 
 My heart goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS do for the
 American economy?
 
 Mark
 
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unable to insert into table with datatype raw

2001-09-11 Thread Harvinder Singh

create table ff (dd raw(16));


SQL insert into ff (select hex_to_raw('234') from dual);
insert into ff (select hex_to_raw('234') from dual)
   *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01465: invalid hex number


SQL select hex_to_raw('234') from dual;

HEX_TO_RAW('234')
---

#



Thanks
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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I am wondering whether this was an attack from outside, or from people like
Timothy McVeigh. 
It seems to be awfully well co-ordinated, how could they breach security to
that extent.

Regards,

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle DBA)
Bedford Institute of Oceanography
Fisheries and Oceans Canada


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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Christopher Spence

They found out the planes were not from boston (10 miles from me).

I can't remember where they claimed to come from.

Pentagon was confirmed not bomb, but 2 planes crashed into it, minor damage.

Claim is when the market open (today or other) will open rock bottom and
crashed.

Claim for Martial law is potential.

Which means military and curfew enforcement amoung the areas.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


The BBC seems to have more info than the U.S. web sites.

Tuesday, 11 September, 2001, 13:35 GMT 14:35
  UK 
  Planes 'attack' World Trade Center

  A huge explosion rocks one of towers
  Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center
  in New York City while an explosion has rocked the
  Pentagon in Washington DC. 

  The White House is reportedly being evacuated. 

  One report says six people have been killed in the
  New York incident while hundreds have been injured. 

  Smoke is pouring from the upper storeys of both
  towers of the World Trade Center. 

  The building, one of the world's tallest, has been badly
  damaged in what President George W Bush has
  described as an apparent terrorist attack. 

  He said: We will find those who committed this
  attack. 

  New York police have been
  quoted as saying that both
  planes were hijacked from
  Boston. 

  A few minutes after the
  first tower was hit by a
  passenger plane, a
  second, similar plane was
  seen flying into the second
  tower. A huge explosion
  was seen. 

  Eyewitnesses say the first
  plane crashed into the West Tower after flying
  unusually low over Manhattan Island. 

  A BBC correspondent says 10 to 15 floors have been
  affected by the crash. 

  Briton James Winter, 30, living in an apartment close
  to the centre, said he was woken a huge bang at
  around 0800 local time. 

  I was in bed and there was a huge explosion. The
  whole building rattled and shook, he said. 

  I ran to the window and there was smoke billowing
  from the south side of one of the towers. Everyone in
  my building was panicking and running around. 

  The World Trade Center consists of two 110-story
  skyscrapers, New York's tallest buildings. One of the
  towers is just six feet (two metres) taller than the
  other. 

  About 40,000 people work inside the two-building
  centre, and more than 150,000 people enter the
  complex every day. 

  On 26 February, 1993, a terrorist bomb exploded in
  building number one's lower level.


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db link from oracle 8.1.7 to 8.0.5

2001-09-11 Thread Arslan Dar
Title: db link from oracle 8.1.7 to 8.0.5





hi list,


i am trying to make a database link from oracle 8.1.7 to oracle 8.0.5,
but its failing, 
giving message DB LINK NOT ACTIVE
global_names parameter is false on both the database,
the schema in which its being created exists in both the databases with same password and privillages, and i am using CONNECTED USER mode of database link,

is that possible to create db link in such conditions,
any suggestions,


Thanks in Advance


Arslan





RE: Do fast full index scans do physical disk reads?

2001-09-11 Thread Christopher Spence

Well thanks for you comment, but you are no means the list master.
Why don't you send this useless email to everyone who posts off topic.

Have a nice day

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Apparently you never learned the lesson that goes
If you can't say something nice, 
then it is better to say NOTHING at all!.

PLEASE keep your OFF TOPIC remarks OFF the list!


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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

According to AP.  
It looks like the entire island of
Manhatten is one big ball of black smoke.  AA Flt. 11 from Boston hit one
WTC.  UA FLt. 175 from boston hit the other.
AA Flt. 77 hit the Pentagon.  UA Flt 93 crashed in Pittsburg - questionable
target??
Untold numbers of people dead in the buildings - projecting at least 20,000
inside.  Possible secondary bombs exploded that collapsed the buildings.
Suspect bomb in a high school nearby too.
Continue to hear explosions all downtown - gas lines exploding...


Pretty sure it's BinLadin who is being kept in Afghanistan.  It will be WAR
for sure on Afghanistan if they continue to harbor him.  Pictures of
Palestinians CELEBRATING this on the West Bank.  

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Its now
1. BOTH tower have fallen.
2. Pentagon hit by a plane.
3. All flights in US grounded

And I am sure more to follow

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The BBC seems to have more info than the U.S. web sites.

Tuesday, 11 September, 2001, 13:35 GMT 14:35
  UK 
  Planes 'attack' World Trade Center

  A huge explosion rocks one of towers
  Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center
  in New York City while an explosion has rocked the
  Pentagon in Washington DC. 

  The White House is reportedly being evacuated. 

  One report says six people have been killed in the
  New York incident while hundreds have been injured. 

  Smoke is pouring from the upper storeys of both
  towers of the World Trade Center. 

  The building, one of the world's tallest, has been badly
  damaged in what President George W Bush has
  described as an apparent terrorist attack. 

  He said: We will find those who committed this
  attack. 

  New York police have been
  quoted as saying that both
  planes were hijacked from
  Boston. 

  A few minutes after the
  first tower was hit by a
  passenger plane, a
  second, similar plane was
  seen flying into the second
  tower. A huge explosion
  was seen. 

  Eyewitnesses say the first
  plane crashed into the West Tower after flying
  unusually low over Manhattan Island. 

  A BBC correspondent says 10 to 15 floors have been
  affected by the crash. 

  Briton James Winter, 30, living in an apartment close
  to the centre, said he was woken a huge bang at
  around 0800 local time. 

  I was in bed and there was a huge explosion. The
  whole building rattled and shook, he said. 

  I ran to the window and there was smoke billowing
  from the south side of one of the towers. Everyone in
  my building was panicking and running around. 

  The World Trade Center consists of two 110-story
  skyscrapers, New York's tallest buildings. One of the
  towers is just six feet (two metres) taller than the
  other. 

  About 40,000 people work inside the two-building
  centre, and more than 150,000 people enter the
  complex every day. 

  On 26 February, 1993, a terrorist bomb exploded in
  building number one's lower level.


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Terrorist Attacks.

2001-09-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

...about two hours ago...when people were clustered around radios...not
quite believing...hearing rumors...someone lost a quarter in the soda
machine,
which is quite heavy.  As they shook it, the floor and walls rumbled. It
sounded
like a distant explosion.  I found out at that moment how scared I was...

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Similar wishes here.  I wish the best for all involved.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

Christopher R. Spence 
Oracle DBA 
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Fax:(707) 885-2275 

Fuelspot 
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North, Chelmsford 01863 
  

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I hope everyone on this list in the New York area is safe  I am so
scared. 

Lisa Koivu 
Oracle Database Administrator 
Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
954-935-4117 


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Re: Inserting records into a table without creating indexes

2001-09-11 Thread Don Granaman

No.  There is no provision for deferred index creation in Oracle.  Having
faced similar issues with large, hot OKTP systems, I can sympathize.  Be very
picky about what indexes are allowed on tables with high insert rates.  Careful
segregation of the affected segments between disks.can help also.

-Don Granaman
[certifiable OraSaurus]

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 List,

 Environment: Solaris 7 : Oracle 817 : OLTP system with stringent throughput
 requirements

 A transaction inserts a record into 4 tables.  After successful insert into
 all the four tables, the transaction issues a commit. Many alternate index
 keys (AK's) are defined on each table. Expected number of transactions : 300
 - 400 transactions per second.

 Requirement:

 While insert is taking place on the tables, I do not want to create indexes.
 Immediately After the transaction is committed, I want to create indexes for
 the inserted record.  I do not want disable the indexes during the
 transaction processing.

 Is the above requirement feasible? Or am I on a wrong path?  Please advise.

 Thanks,

 Rao

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News

2001-09-11 Thread Ramon Estevez



Another plane crash in 
Pennsylvania.

Take care 
friends


Ramon E. 
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Re[2]: Re[2]: RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-11 Thread dgoulet

Eric,

One of these days some genius will figure out how we can do e-mail with
video and audio vs. just plain text characters.  Then the non-verbal messages
maybe able to make the transit as well as the text which will kill a lot of
these misunderstandings.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Eric D. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   9/10/2001 3:42 PM

Dick,

Short/brusque, me Thanks! :)

I don't mind being called on it if someone thinks I'm being 
argumentative (HELP, am I an idiot?), the thing that bugs me is 
when it is done in such a manner that the chastiser sounds like a 
pissy little fascist (autocratic/dicatorial/conformist/suppressive of 
opposition/etc).

Even worse is when they then go on to provide absolutely no further 
useful/interesting information on the subject (by which their 
otherwise cr*ppy attitude could perhaps be ever so slightly redeemed).

With infinite wisdom, the Creator of the universe (the God that 
doesn't think he is Larry Ellison) brought about cooperation and 
competition. Looks like we need to work on cooperation at this point.

I do recognize that the world isn't divided into bad evil corporate 
types, and innocent customers. The situation in the industry is 
complex, and subject to wrenching changes (eg, PCs as commodities) 
and bad times. If customers were more responsible about understanding 
the industry, and trying to support good players in various ways, 
there is no doubt that the world would be more full of good at this 
point. At the same time, the hype, arrogance, and techno-
insularization that crops up on on the corporate side is very 
annoying, and I'm getting really sick of it.

I think it would be useful if corporate people would try to learn a 
little bit about systems theory (cybernetics, self-learning and self-
organization of communities of interest, communities of competence, 
etc.), and gain an understanding of how there are always informal 
information sharing mechanisms that function as needed alternatives 
to the formal mechanisms of management, information control and 
corporate mission.

Given that there appears to be a fair amount of awareness of the 
internal need to run companies in smart mode with respect to the 
internal value of such informal dynamics, one has to wonder if it is 
just too hard to deal with the chaos involved in extending those 
methods to external relations with customers?

As always, your comrade in visualizing whirled peas,
ep

On 10 Sep 2001, at 16:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled with alacrity 
and cogency:

Date sent:  Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:37:43 -0400
To: Eric D. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To All,
 
 As much as this thread is apparently getting a little terse (No I'm NOT
 getting on ANYBODY's case) it is a relief to realize that I'm not the only
 person who gets barbecued for what I believe is a normal, non argumentative
 e-mail message.  If I have a nickel for every time one of my local colleagues
 called me a bonehead for a message, I could have retired last year!  
 
 Guess Eric  I are both in the STBU club!  Eric, welcome aboard!  :-)
 
 Dick Goulet
 
 Reply Separator
 Subject:Re: RE: Interesting News..
 Author: Eric D. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   9/10/2001 1:17 PM
 
 K-
 
 I apparently made the mistake of thinking that the US constitution 
 says that there is a right to FREE SPEECH in this friggin country.  
 
 I'm reporting what a reseller is saying about his several years of 
 experience, and what bugs the daylights out of the people that 
 ACTUALLY PAY MONEY FOR A PRODUCT (known as customers for those that 
 have never heard the word before).
 
 Note that the resalescritter was specifically addressing the 
 headaches reported by CUSTOMERS at sites using service offerings in 
 the SUB-enterprise category.
 
 Anyone feel free to call me an idiot (HELP), that I'm wrong, or 
 whatever, but absent the technical merits of a pro-Compaq position 
 having been presented in detail, all I hear is someone acting like a 
 pissy little fascist.  
 
 My writing wasn't exacty at the level of the Great Bard, but it would 
 help if people would read a bit more carefully before they barf.
 
 Speaking of which, I'm sick of all the crap (lying/etc.) from vendors 
 and their employees and the friends of their employees, and having 
 them expecting the customers to kiss their a$$es all the time because 
 they are some big megacorp.
 
 Of course the good news is that I can now go around telling people 
 that if they want good services, they should buy IBM since there are 
 so many a$$holes in the Compaq world.  
 
 brgrds,
 ep
 
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   Subject: RE: Interesting 

RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Christopher Spence

The first tower is down, the second one is falling, the Pentagon had two
planes crash into it as well. 

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

Christopher R. Spence 
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Fax:(707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
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North, Chelmsford 01863
 



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List,

I am sure many of you Americans will have woken to this news, or maybe you
got to work before it happened:

I just saw on the news the World Trade Centre in NY, has just taken two
direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! Suspected to be a terrorist
assault.  Full video the lot!! They hit around the top of the buildings..

My heart goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS do for the
American economy?

Mark

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RE: OT: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Guidry, Chris

 

 

  Terror attacks hit U.S.
September 11, 2001 Posted: 1457 GMT 

  
People walk away from the World Trade Center as ash rains down.
 
 
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Terrorists struck the United States Tuesday morning in
harrowing, widespread attacks that included at least three commercial jet
crashes into significant buildings. 

* In the first attack, a plane hit the north tower of the World Trade Center
in Manhattan shortly before 9 a.m., followed by another plane into the
second tower about 20 minutes later. Both towers later collapsed. 

* About an hour later, a plane crashed into the Pentagon, part of which
later collapsed.

* American Airlines told CNN that it lost two planes in tragic accidents:
Flight 11 from Boston with 81 passengers and 11 crew aboard and Flight 77
from Washington Dulles airport with 58 passengers and six crew aboard. Both
planes were en route to Los Angeles

* United Airlines Flight 93 airliner headed from Newark, New Jersey, to San
Francisco, crashed near Somerset, Pennsylvania -- police said initial
reports indicated no survivors. It was not known if this was connected to
the attacks. United also said it was deeply concerned about Flight l75
from Boston to Los Angeles. 

*  The Pentagon, the White House, the State Department, the Justice
Department, the Capitol, the CIA and all other government buildings in
Washington evacuated. 

* In the first ever national ground stop of aircraft, all flights nationwide
have been stopped at their departure airports. 

* All international flights were diverted to Canada. 

* Israel has evacuated all its missions around the world.

* President Bush cancelled an appearance in Florida to return to Washington,
calling the crashes apparent terrorist attacks and a national tragedy. 

* In Chicago, the Sears Tower was evacuated; United Nations in New York
evacuated. 

* The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta was evacuated.
CDC was preparing bioterrorism teams in case they become necessary.

* The New York Port Authority said it had closed all bridges and tunnels
into the city. 

* New York's Bellevue Hospital was designated command central for handling
the catastrophe. Several hospitals have already reported receiving victims
with burns and head injuries. 

* U.S. stock markets were closed after the New York attacks. 

   

 

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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 09:35 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  Re: OT: STOP THE PRESS!!
 
 Actually the World Trade Center is no more.  Both towers have collapsed 
 in on themselves.
 As for the economy, it will have global implications.  Rachel, are you on 
 today?  How close is all this to you?
 
 Rodd
 
  Original Message 
 
 On 9/11/01, 9:25:27 AM, Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding
 
 OT: STOP THE PRESS!!:
 
 
  List,
 
  I am sure many of you Americans will have woken to this news, or maybe 
 you
  got to work before it happened:
 
  I just saw on the news the World Trade Centre in NY, has just taken two
  direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! Suspected to be a terrorist
  assault.  Full video the lot!! They hit around the top of the
 buildings..
 
  My heart goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS do for the
  American economy?
 
  Mark
 
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RE: OT: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

and the State Department in DC.
WTC 1 and 2 are down

pray for the familes..


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Looks like the Pentagon was also just bombed.

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Re: OT Terrorist Acts

2001-09-11 Thread Thater, William

At 12:15 PM 9/11/2001, you wrote:
Yes, I see that and wish i could remove it. Consider it done

We've just heard the towers went downjust incredible..i had
never thought that i'd be there at the start of World War III.

And wanted very badly to fight in it.


to you all:

someone once said those who hate war the most are those best trained in 
it's use.  trust me, you DON'T want to fight in a war.  you may end up 
doing just that, but you don't want to.

i had friends who's pentagon offices were where the impact was.

and i wish death wasn't a friend of mine.




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TERRORIST ACTS

2001-09-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

This Reuters report is spot on accurate from my seat, in downtown DC, 
about five blocks from White House. 

I am going out to have another look now, and will report back, but
...I have NEVER seen anything like this...people are shocked...there
is NO business as usual attitude here. 

more later..



##
Panic Reigns on Washington Streets
Reuters
Sep 11 2001 11:31AM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Panic-stricken Washington pedestrians froze in their
tracks when they heard the whir of a plane overhead on Tuesday after plane
attacks demolished New York's World Trade Center and damaged the Pentagon. 
Washington workers flooded the streets near the White House and elsewhere
after all federal buildings were ordered evacuated and other businesses shut
down. But some people seemed bewildered about what to do next. 

I'm totally freaked out. Hearing the plane going over my head was
frightening, Elissa Brainard, 29, told Reuters as she joined the 150 yard
line to get her car from the parking garage. 

But even with her car, Brainard faced a long wait to get home, as gridlock
hit Washington's roads. 

Drivers ran red lights and sped across intersections, sending pedestrians
scattering. Police near the White House tried to direct traffic, but a few
blocks away chaos reigned, thwarting the efforts of emergency vehicles. 

Wailing sirens from fire engines, police patrols and ambulances mingled with
car horns, whistles and human cries. 

Everything is going crazy. People are getting so stressed out, one office
worker said. 

CELLULAR TELEPHONE MELTDOWN 

Pedestrians hurried away from the federal quarter and clutched cellular
telephones to their ears, desperately trying to reach loved ones. But
cellular telephone networks seemed to be disrupted and people began to line
up at public phones. 

I'm terrified. We tried to call on the cellphone but they weren't working,
office assistant Val Thornton said. 

Thornton, whose commuter bus takes her past the Pentagon to her Virginia
home, did not know how she would get out of the city. 
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RE: OT RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-11 Thread Raghu Kota





Feeling Good. Keep it up.

Ok guys, now tell us how you really feel.  :o)

I just about choked from laughing.

Dave

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 4:36 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Eric,

I join with you in emptying the contents of my venom sac deep
into the putrid flesh of shitty vendors like Oracle, Microsoft, and
yes..COMCRAP.

Getting tired of reading Service is Our Number One Priority when it
is clearly fifth or sixth, directly under. F*cking You Hard When We Can
or Doing Kind of The Best We Feel Like, Depending on the Weather or
You'll Get NOTHING, and LIKE IT, or You're Our Plaything Now That You've
  Drunk from the Proprietary Kool-Aid

Good Customer Service is really really really rare, especially when you
factor in consistent delivery of same.

Multibillion dollar corporations that get away with murder on a
daily basis are...well...a dime a dozen.

Now I must rest...as my venom sacs once again fill with their sweet liquid
of death

- Ross

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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:17 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


K-

I apparently made the mistake of thinking that the US constitution
says that there is a right to FREE SPEECH in this friggin country.

I'm reporting what a reseller is saying about his several years of
experience, and what bugs the daylights out of the people that
ACTUALLY PAY MONEY FOR A PRODUCT (known as customers for those that
have never heard the word before).

Note that the resalescritter was specifically addressing the
headaches reported by CUSTOMERS at sites using service offerings in
the SUB-enterprise category.

Anyone feel free to call me an idiot (HELP), that I'm wrong, or
whatever, but absent the technical merits of a pro-Compaq position
having been presented in detail, all I hear is someone acting like a
pissy little fascist.

My writing wasn't exacty at the level of the Great Bard, but it would
help if people would read a bit more carefully before they barf.

Speaking of which, I'm sick of all the crap (lying/etc.) from vendors
and their employees and the friends of their employees, and having
them expecting the customers to kiss their a$$es all the time because
they are some big megacorp.

Of course the good news is that I can now go around telling people
that if they want good services, they should buy IBM since there are
so many a$$holes in the Compaq world.

brgrds,
ep

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   From: Kimberly Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Subject: RE: Interesting News..
 
  Jon, you need to get some thick skin.  My company is destroyed quite
often
  in this list (although it has been a while).
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:50 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Eric:
 
  While I can appreciate that your opinion of the Compaq Services division
  might be less than positive, would you please, for the sake of those who
  actually work for these companies, be a little less dramatic in your
  expression of that opinion.
 
  Jon Walthour
  Oracle Database Administrator
  COMPAQ DBA Team
  Cincinnati, Ohio
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:22 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  According to our hardware resalescritter: especially for anything
  below large enterprise level, both HP and Compaq services suck.
 
  so, I guess the objective is to create a new company who services
  suck even more than either individually?
 
  Synergy!!!
 
 
 
   Guy Hammond wrote:
   
On the contrary, I'd say this is a godsend for Sun. Compaq made a
mess
of truly epic proportions when they tried to integrate DEC and 
Tandem
into their operations. HP did just as badly with Apollo.
 
  ...


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RE: What's wrong with this query

2001-09-11 Thread Anne Yu

Thanks Lisa,  I have been a system dba from many years.   This is my
very first involvement with the pl/sql.The application was created by an
Oracle consultant Co   I'm just monitoring the system and feel funny about
this query.There is nothing I can change.
 

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Hi Anne, 

What's the name of your index you want the query to use?  Change your hint
to correct syntax.  /*+ index (b index_name) */

Do you absolutely have to have the distinct in there? The number of rows
after the unique sort hasn't changed.  Taking distinct out of there will
help.  

Try both suggestions and try to trace again.  Do you understand what it's
telling you?  If not, ask. 

Lisa Koivu 
Oracle Database Administrator 
Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
954-935-4117 


-Original Message- 
Sent:   Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:51 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Thanks Thomas, Lisa, Attached is the  TKPROF EXPLAIN PLAN for
this 
query.Please review. 

Many thanks, 


TKPROF: Release 8.0.6.3.0 - Production on Tue Sep 11 07:38:26 2001 

(c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved. 

Trace file: texasprd_ora_24718.trc 
Sort options: default 




 
count= number of times OCI procedure was executed 
cpu  = cpu time in seconds executing 
elapsed  = elapsed time in seconds executing 
disk = number of physical reads of buffers from disk 
query= number of buffers gotten for consistent read 
current  = number of buffers gotten in current mode (usually for update) 
rows = number of rows processed by the fetch or execute call 


 

alter session set sql_trace = true 


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent

rows 
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
-- 
Parse0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
0 
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
0 
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
0 
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
-- 
total1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
0 

Misses in library cache during parse: 0 
Misses in library cache during execute: 1 
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE 
Parsing user id: 111  


 

BEGIN DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO.SET_MODULE(:1,NULL); END; 


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent

rows 
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
-- 
Parse4  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
0 
Execute  4  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
4 
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
0 
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
-- 
total8  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
4 

Misses in library cache during parse: 0 
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE 
Parsing user id: 111  


 

select /*+ INDEX(b)*/ distinct d.batch_number 
  , d.document_number 
  , d.entry_user_id 
  , d.document_type_id 
  , d.document_processed_date 
  , b.batch_media_id, d.return_Method_Id 
from submitter_batch b , document d 
  , ucc_master_amendment m 
where d.batch_number = b.batch_number 
   and d.document_number = m.document_number 
   and d.imaged = 0 
   and b.batch_media_id = 4 
   and d.document_status_id = 4 

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent

rows 
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
-- 
Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
0 
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
0 
Fetch1  0.00   0.00 32   3193  0 
0 
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
-- 
total3  0.00   0.00 32   3193  0 
0 

Misses in library cache during parse: 1 
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE 
Parsing user id: 111  

Rows Row Source Operation 
---  --- 
  0  SORT UNIQUE 
  0   NESTED LOOPS 
  1NESTED LOOPS 
147 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID SUBMITTER_BATCH 
148  INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 10416) 
   2722 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID DOCUMENT 
   2869  INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 10385) 
  1INDEX UNIQUE SCAN 

RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Forget the economy.  Its going to piss off some Americans.

There are other stories about other sites being hit, Pentagon, State
Department, etc.  It will probably take sometime to sort everything out from
the rumors.

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List,

I am sure many of you Americans will have woken to this news, or maybe you
got to work before it happened:

I just saw on the news the World Trade Centre in NY, has just taken two
direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! Suspected to be a terrorist
assault.  Full video the lot!! They hit around the top of the buildings..

My heart goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS do for the
American economy?

Mark

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RE: OT

2001-09-11 Thread Van M. Etheridge
Title: OT



Hey 
List

I'm at 
work in downtown DC and its really weird. Most public building are evacuating. 
The subways are closed so the streets are very busy with cars and pedestrians. I 
could see the smoke from the Pentagon fire from my office and heard the sonic 
boom from the military fighter planes being scrambled. It's likebeing in a 
black and white science fiction movie. You know the one where the flying saucer 
hits the Washington Monument.



  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 
  11:15 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  OT
  I hope everyone on this list in the New York area is 
  safe I am so scared. 
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Database 
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RE: OT Breaking News

2001-09-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

The Financial Markets are shut down indefinitely

My friends at NASDAQ are being sent home...

The WTC was a massive massive center for pricing for
an enormous variety of financial instruments. This will
be hard to recover from quickly. 

But the money is nothing compared to the hollow heavy feeling
in my chest when i think of the towers going downall those
people...it's more than anyone could have imagined...

DC still a mess...i am going to walk out and survey again in 
a bit...had to come back inside to use a landline to reach my
kids...cellphones near useless, network choked. 


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Off topic and serious for once;

The World Trade Towers, the Pentagon, the USA Today building
have all been hit by bombs. The first is quite major. 

There is word here in DC that they are evacuating people from
around the White House. 
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RE: OT: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Re. NY, a canadian news site posted this phone number if you have friends /
relatives in NYC:

FRIENDS/FAMILY IN NYC ? CALL 1-800-387-3124


The url for this site is www.bourque.com

Pat.

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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: RE: STOP THE PRESS!!



The 
State Department was NOT hit. There was just an 
update...

The 
attack on the Pentagon, however, was quite serious. 

.there were 50,000 people in the World Trade Center. 


  -Original Message-From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) 
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  11:35 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: STOP THE PRESS!!
  It's worse. The pentagon, the capital and 
  the state department have also been attacked, 
  according to the latest reports. 
  The State department attack is still unconfirmed at this 
  time. 
   -Original Message-  
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   Subject: OT: STOP THE PRESS!!
  List,   I am sure many 
  of you Americans will have woken to this news,  or 
  maybe you  got to work before it happened: 
I just saw on the news the 
  World Trade Centre in NY, has just  taken 
  two  direct hits from two separate aeroplanes!! 
  Suspected to be a terrorist  assault. Full 
  video the lot!! They hit around the top of the  
  buildings..   My heart 
  goes out to those in the buildings.. What will THIS  do for the  American economy? 
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