RE: 9i D/l

2001-09-18 Thread Molina, Gerardo

I think you just have to keep trying.  Maybe at different times.  I
experienced the same as you but with the 9i for Linux download.

HTH
Gerardo

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Hi List

Have any of you been successful in d/lng 9i for NT from technet ?? I am
getting Server not found.  Is there any other mirror fromwhich I can d/l ??

TIA

Srini

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ORA-00600

2001-09-18 Thread Sirisha


Hi
I get this error ORA-00600 when i try to execute a stored procedure.

The stored procedure gets compiled perfectly but gives this error at
run-time while executing it from a java code. This is what i found in
the alert log.

Tue Sep 18 04:57:14 2001
Errors in file
/usr/local/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle/admin/HHME1/udump/ora_2825.trc:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kcbgtcr_4], [6529], [6707],
[1049600], [1], [], [], []

Can someone tell me how to deal with this problem,

Thanx,
Sirisha.


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RE: Way off topic - Volunteering

2001-09-18 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA


Also Enlisted as volunteer 

Being Physically in INDIA , may NOT be of much help  


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  I received following information from a different listserv and
 hope it
 helps:
 For information on how to offer IT assistance or support to businesses
 in
 New York's World Trade Center, please visit our Web site at
 www.computerworld.com http://www.computerworld.com , where you can
 register to help through our IT Volunteers database (click on the red
 Volunteer IT banner). If your services are needed by businesses
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 I am looking to find a way to volunteer my time to assist non-profits
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 similar organizations that need technical assistance or maybe be a
 technical tutor or resource at a community center, etc.  I knows this
 sounds crazy but my early attempts to find these opportunities near my
 local community have come up empty.  Does anyone have any suggestions
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RE: Subtract 1 month from current date

2001-09-18 Thread Hatzistavrou Giannis

select ADD_MONTHS(trunc(your_date),-1)
from dual;
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 Can someone tell me how to subtract 1 month from the current date?  Also,
 where can I find answers and examples to this type of coding question?
 
 Thanks!
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RE: Perl code example

2001-09-18 Thread Hatzistavrou Giannis

A good solution might be to read the eviromental parameters of the UNIX
session. In there you can set the SID and username/password.

From within the Perl code then do:

$data_source=dbi:Oracle: . $ENV{SID};
$dbbscs = DBI-connect($data_source,$ENV{username},$ENV{passwd});
$sqlstmt_tmcode = select ... from ...;
$stmt_tmcode = $dbbscs-prepare($sqlstmt_tmcode) || die Couldn't prepare
the tmcode statement!\n;
$stmt_tmcode-execute || die Couldn't execute the tmcode statement!\n;

Regards,

Hatzistavrou Yannis

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 Subject:  Perl code example
 
 Hello, 
 
 I'm looking for a Perl example passing parameters.  
 
 The code below has the userids and passwords hardcoded in clear text in
 the system line, parms 3 and 5 (five lines from the bottom), and the
 Oracle sid is hardcoded also.  The code has to be changed to 1) read .pwd1
 and .pwd2 files containing the passwords, and set a literal for the SID
 and substitute it at in the code.  
 
 I'm not a Perl coder, and would appreciate any information, hints, or
 links to the manual.  
 
 Thanks, Linda 
 
 
 
 #!/usr/local/bin/perl 
 # 
 use CGI qw(:standard); 
 # 
 $| = 1; 
 ($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mmonth,$myear,$wday,$yday,$isdst) =
 localtime(time); 
 if ($myear  99) { 
 $myear++; 
 } 
 $myear += 1900; 
 $mmonth += 1; 
 print header; 
 if (!param()) { 
 print start_html('dev02 QRX4 DB Refresh'), 
 h1('centerdev02 QRX4 DB Refresh for Formulary qRx Version 4.0'),
 
 hr, 
 body bgcolor=\#66\ text=\#00\br, 
 Enter a date to start the Oracle database refresh script,br, 
 then hit iSubmit/i to kick off the refresh for that
 date.p, 
 start_form, 
 Enter the target refresh date: , 
 textfield('day',$mday,2), 
 textfield('month',$mmonth,2), 
 textfield('year',$myear,4), 
 p, submit('Submit'), 
 end_form, 
 hr; 
 } else { 
 #print You entered :p; 
 $dy = param('day'); 
 $mo  = param('month'); 
 $yr  = param('year'); 
 print You are transferring all data modified on or after , $dy, -,
 $mo,-, $yr,  to update; 
print  \n; 
  print QRX4: Starting script with
 /opt/oracle/scripts/staging/cerebellum/refresh.sh  $dy-$mo-$yr\n; 
 print A HREF=
 http://parietal.corpdc.epocrates.com/cgi-bin/staging/productionDater_dev0
 2.plReturn to previous page/A,hr;
 
 print pre; 
 system /opt/oracle/scripts/staging/refresh.sh gui4 pwd1 qrx4 pwd2
 $dy-$mo-$yr dev02; 
 print /prehr; 
 print A HREF=
 http://parietal.corpdc.epocrates.com/cgi-bin/staging/productionDater_dev0
 2.plReturn to previous page/A,hr;
 
 print end_html; 
 } 
 
 
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RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-18 Thread Guy Hammond

Satar, I'm afraid that I'm going to have to take issue with this. Bad
English food is, I agree, fairly grim, but the same could be said of bad
food everywhere. Have you ever been to New Jersey? All they eat there
are chicken parm subs! London is one of the great places in the world if
you like eating, altho' quite expensive compared to Paris or Amsterdam.
If you can get the Sunday Times where you are, try reading the A A Gill
column every week for an idea of some good places to go. Incidentally,
one of the VPs at my last job was a friend of A A Gill's girlfriend (aka
The Blonde), but I never did get to meet him. 

Now back onto the subject. Here, I count as part of the development
team, with simply a slightly different skill set to everyone else (SQL
rather than C++). It works pretty well. Of course, we are a software
house, and don't do much by the way of running 24/7 operations (altho'
of course our clients do).

Cheers,

g


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As for me, this is my 3rd job as an Oracle DBA.

My first job was working for a Porno Company based out
of Beverly Hills, CA. It was a small company (130
internal employees and 200 outside employees aka phone
actress and actors) that owned the majority of the
phone sex lines (over 10,000 lines coming in). As the
DBA, I reported to the owner. I supported and worked
closely with the developers and network admins. But my
major tasks were to automate business practices and to
suggest ways to improve perversion efficiency.

My Second job was working for a national VAR (value
added reseller) company which had strong ties to Sun
Microsystems, IBM, HP, SGI, etc. I reported to the
Co-owner of the company. My job role was to work
closely with the system admins to implement enterprise
solutions for major corporations.

My current job involves a large international
Manufacturing company. As the DBA, I report to the CIO
of the company. Each division has a MIS manager. My
role is to provide support to each division (which
sucks because I have to travel a lot, especially to
the UK...no offense to the people of the UK, but the
only good thing about the UK that I like are the
PUBS!!! The weather, some people and food is another
story).  My major tasks are to consolidate the
companies on a data level, which means I work closely
witht the ERP developers. I also make hardware and
software suggestions to ease operations.

Hope this helps! As far as being with the developers,
you will need to be with them regardless, either at
the beginning of development to make sure they don't
mess up the database or after development to fix the
problems that they did mess up.

Regards,
Satar

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violence. Please do not displace your anger on
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RE: ORA-00600

2001-09-18 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

 Hi  sirisha,
 ORA-00600 
 ORA-00600internal message code, arguments: [num], [?], [?], [?], [?], [?] 
 Cause:This is a catch-all internal message for ORACLE program exceptions.
 It indicates that a process has met a low-level, unexpected condition. 
 Various causes of this message include: 
 ·time-outs 
 ·file corruption 
 ·failed data checks in memory 
 ·hardware, memory, or I/O messages 
 ·incorrectly restored files 
 The first argument is the internal message number; other arguments are
 various numbers, names, and character strings. (See section Reporting a
 Problem to Worldwide Customer Support on page 1-12 for more information.)
 The numbers may change meanings between different versions of the ORACLE
 Server. 
 Action:Report this error to Worldwide Customer Support after gathering the
 following information: 
 ·events that led up to the error 
 ·the operations that were attempted that led to the error 
 ·the conditions of the operating system and database at the time of the
 error 
 ·any unusual circumstances that occurred prior to receiving the ORA-00600
 message. 
 ·contents of any trace files generated by the error 
 ·the relevant portions of the Alert file 
 NOTE: The cause of this error may manifest itself as different errors at
 different times. Be aware of the history of errors that occurred prior to
 this internal error. 
 ***
 
 Hope that this would help you,
 
 REgards,
 lamriN.
 
 
 
 
 Hi
 I get this error ORA-00600 when i try to execute a stored procedure.
 
 The stored procedure gets compiled perfectly but gives this error at
 run-time while executing it from a java code. This is what i found in
 the alert log.
 
 Tue Sep 18 04:57:14 2001
 Errors in file
 /usr/local/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle/admin/HHME1/udump/ora_2825.trc:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kcbgtcr_4], [6529], [6707],
 [1049600], [1], [], [], []
 
 Can someone tell me how to deal with this problem,
 
 Thanx,
 Sirisha.
 
 
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7 step guide to constructing a Disaster Recovery Plan

2001-09-18 Thread O'Neill, Sean

The site below contains a 7 step guide to constructing a Disaster Recovery
Plan.  Enjoy =:-0 
http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=091301-SevenDRPsteps 


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Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Barry Deevey

Hi all, 

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again, so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear
from you. 

TIA for any responses. 

Best Regards, 
Barry. 


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Turning off output when running pl/sql

2001-09-18 Thread Steven Hovington

Hi,

I'm running a block of PL/SQL in SQL Plus (8.1.7), and when its completed
it says the usual:

PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.

at the end.
I'm spooling the output of the PL/SQL block to a file using
dbms_put.put_line
but I want to get rid of the above line.  Anyone know how I can do this?

Thanks in advance,

Steven H.

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Re: Perl code example

2001-09-18 Thread lembark



-- Hagedorn, Linda [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/17/01 15:00:22 -0800


 I'm looking for a Perl example passing parameters.  
 
 The code below has the userids and passwords hardcoded in clear text in
 the system line, parms 3 and 5 (five lines from the bottom), and the
 Oracle sid is hardcoded also.  The code has to be changed to 1) read
 .pwd1 and .pwd2 files containing the passwords, and set a literal for the
 SID and substitute it at in the code.  
 
 I'm not a Perl coder, and would appreciate any information, hints, or
 links to the manual.  

Prepared queries can use placeholders (?) in the SQL.  You can 
start out with something like:

my $dbh = DBI-connect( %connect_args );

...

my $sth = $dbh-prepare( 'select blah blah blah where foo = ?' );

...

if( $sth-execute( $value_for_foo_here )
{
my $result = $sth-fetchall_arrayref;
}
...

This would avoid all hard-coding and leave you with a re-usable $sth.

Try perldoc DBI as a good starting place for info on DBI.

You might also want to check out the dbi mailing list or O'Reilly
Press' DBI manual.

sl




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Re: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Gene Sais

here is a snippet i use to determine if the db is up.  u can use any sql script, i 
choose to get the db name and compare to sid.

if [ `which sqlplus | grep no sqlplus | wc -l` -eq 0 ] 
   [ `print \n\n\n | sqlplus -s guest/guest@$sid  @$ORABIN/db_get_dbname | grep 
Instance_Name | awk '{print $2}'` = $sid ] 
then 
  db is up stuff...
fi

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/01 11:45AM 
Hi all, 

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again, so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear
from you. 

TIA for any responses. 

Best Regards, 
Barry. 


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Re: Turning off output when running pl/sql

2001-09-18 Thread Jared . Still



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Hi,

I'm running a block of PL/SQL in SQL Plus (8.1.7), and when its completed
it says the usual:

PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.

at the end.
I'm spooling the output of the PL/SQL block to a file using
dbms_put.put_line
but I want to get rid of the above line.  Anyone know how I can do this?

Thanks in advance,

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Accept statement

2001-09-18 Thread Steven Hovington

I'm am trying to use an accept statement to grab some info from the user in
an SQL script,
and then use that in a subsequent PL/SQL block.  I can do the Accept ok, but
can't sem to
access the variable onside the block.  Can anyone point me in the right
direction?

Thanks in advance.


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RE: 9i D/l

2001-09-18 Thread Mark Leith

You know, this list is the greatest! I specifically submitted my name to the
OTN site, to be told *apparently* as soon as the version I am interested in
is released - which was 9i for Win2K. Guess what? The first I hear of this
being released was HERE!! Still haven't heard anything from Oracle!!

Now all I have to do is log on for 3 weeks to try and download it over my
56k modem :)

RANT

I can't believe that that the download is over a GIG in size!! 8.1.7 was
only close to 600 or so meg! We can't get Broadband services here either! In
a CITY! Though I hear of people all around the country (even residencies)
and small TOWNS etc. that can get ADSL, but here we are in a CITY and a
BUSINESS wanting to get the service, and BT can't supply it to us!! Neither
can NTL, because BT haven't installed it in our exchange!! Did I mention we
are in a CITY?!?!

Grumble grumble, moan, grumble, humph...

/RANT

Mark

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I think you just have to keep trying.  Maybe at different times.  I
experienced the same as you but with the 9i for Linux download.

HTH
Gerardo

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Hi List

Have any of you been successful in d/lng 9i for NT from technet ?? I am
getting Server not found.  Is there any other mirror fromwhich I can d/l ??

TIA

Srini

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Deta_default value not getting imported...

2001-09-18 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: Deta_default value not getting imported...






We did full export of a database and then imported the same in another database. The issue is that none of the data_default values have been imported. Has anyone encountered this before. Any links, bugs, actions to point to?

Oracle: 8.1.7
EXP  IMP: 8.1.7



rgds
amar






Materialized View/dbms_mview.refresh Question

2001-09-18 Thread mohammed bhatti

I have a materialized view created by user A in schema
A.  The view consists of simple table joins and union
statements.  I want user B to be able to execute the
refresh on the MV using dbms_mview.refresh.

I've granted select on all the tables to user B along
with creating public synonyms for the tables.  I've
also granted all privileges on the MV to user B and
granted REWRITE privs to user B.

When I exec dbms_mview.refresh('A.MVIEW_NAME', 'A');
as user B, I get the following error:

ORA-01031: Insufficent privileges
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_SNAPSHOT, line 610
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_SNAPSHOT, line 667
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_SNAPSHOT, line 647
ORA-06512: at line 1

Any thoughts?

Thanks


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RE: Looking for 24 X 7 Design Considerations

2001-09-18 Thread Jared . Still



7.3.4.5?

Ok, Charlie, now you're too far the other direction. :)

Jared



   
 
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Just so folks do NOT get the wrong idea, let me clarify.
Please note I said a production database. It is not THE
Production Database; which is still firmly planted in V7.3.4.5.
I've taken a few limited activity tablespaces up to 9i to
take advantage of 8i features; such as partitioning. I, too
would be hesitant to move into Production code that
makes use of 9i Bleeding Edge features. However I am
perfectly comfortable with moving V7 code onto a
tested 9i DB. Since our tests showed a stable DB,
I moved directly to 9i to avoid doing multiple upgrades
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Internal troublemaker

2001-09-18 Thread Sinardy

Hi all,


How to ensure our scripts are not changeable by other user, unix and sql
script.
I remember some unix guru said I need Pro C

Can I use embedded Java




Sinardy

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RE: Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-18 Thread O'Neill, Sean

I wrote:
So what perks if any do you get for being called in on a Saturday?.  The
longer I hang around in this DBA field the more it seems to be like a
vocation ;)

Rachel Replied:
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Perks for being a DBA? You jest.

If you do your job right, and nothing goes wrong, they don't understand
why 
they need you and why they pay you what they do.

If something goes wrong, they get upset because why didn't you know it was

going to happen and fix it to begin with?

Okay, for real:  I get thanks from people when I make their stuff work
fast 
(the best comment from a programmer was Rachel, now it flies like the 
wind!), thanks from end users when I dig the data out for them or 
straighten out the mess that the programmers made.

And I like what I do.

Hhhhm.  Rachel seems to me you've found your vocation in life ;)

I like to separate perks from vocation, unless of course they happen to be
one in the same!!!

Now back to my Oracle afternoon prayer book..


Sean :)

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RE: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Barry,

A while ago, when I wrote a script to do this for a site, I attempted to
login with a bogus userid/password and then checked for the Oracle error
message.  Thereby, eliminating a security hole, and not hugely impacting
Oracle by logging in for a simple check.

Also, I was poking around Steve Adams's site and came across his script to
do this, which is more through.  So I would check his site.  This link
should take to the misc page on his website, then scroll down to the
bottom...

http://www.ixora.com.au/scripts/misc.htm

HTH

Chris
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:46 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi all, 

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again, so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear
from you. 

TIA for any responses. 

Best Regards, 
Barry. 


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RDA from OWS - anyone used it?

2001-09-18 Thread Orr, Steve

Has anyone implemented and used RDA? (It's a diagnostic tool from OWS.)

It might be semi-cool ;-)  ...Comments?

Steve Orr
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Ora-03121

2001-09-18 Thread Ahmed Gholam Hussain

Hi listers ,

   I am getting this error while trying to connect to  Oracle
Designer2000(1.3.2)  on Oracle 8.0.5 -Plattform  NT4 :

Ora-03121 : No interface driver connected-function  not performed 

Does  this thing requires the installation  of some Oracle patches Any
help would be appreciated ...


TIA
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Good/Cheap Backup Agent?

2001-09-18 Thread Walter K

Hi,

We're looking for an inexpensive backup agent for our
databases. The databases are 8i and are on Sun boxes
but we're looking to have the agent/client hosted from
an NT box (because it appears to be cheaper that way).

What are your recommendations? Do all of the agents
work through RMAN these days? Are there any features
or caveats I should look for?

Thanks!
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Re: Accept statement

2001-09-18 Thread Jonathan Gennick

Tuesday, September 18, 2001, 1:30:17 PM, you wrote:
SH I'm am trying to use an accept statement to grab some info from the user in
SH an SQL script,
SH and then use that in a subsequent PL/SQL block.  I can do the Accept ok, but
SH can't sem to
SH access the variable onside the block.  Can anyone point me in the right
SH direction?

Can you post the part of your script in which you are doing
this?

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Re: ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2001, Number 261

2001-09-18 Thread Eric D. Pierce

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RE: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Haunschmidt Andreas VASL/FAS

Hi Barry!

We use the Oracle supplied program tnsping 
as in the following shell script snippet :
-
#!/bin/sh

PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/$ORACLE_HOME/bin
export PATH
# get SQL*NET alias from first argument or use ORCL as default
oradb=${1:ORCL}

if $ORACLE_HOME/bin/tnsping $oradb /dev/null 21 
then 
echo database $oradb is up
else
echo database $oradb is down ( tnsping returned $?)
fi
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Hope this helps,
Andreas

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 An:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Betreff:  Determining Oracle status
 
 Hi all, 
 
 I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
 instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
 thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it
 connects
 its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
 when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
 that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
 even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again,
 so
 unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
 If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
 attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
 finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to
 hear
 from you. 
 
 TIA for any responses. 
 
 Best Regards, 
 Barry. 
 
 
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Re:Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread dgoulet

Barry,

Do you get the IOUG-A mag?  There was a piece of Pro*C code therein (I'm the
author) that did exactly what you want, but does not use SQL*Plus.  There is
also 'oiconnect' that should be in $ORACLE_HOME/bin.

Dick Goulet

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Date:   9/18/2001 7:45 AM

Hi all, 

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again, so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear
from you. 

TIA for any responses. 

Best Regards, 
Barry. 


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RE: Dump Oracle Tables To ASCII/Comma Delimited File ..Summary

2001-09-18 Thread Deepender Kr Gupta

Hi All,
Here is the summary of all the mails I have recieved to Convert an 
oracle table into ASCII/Comma delimeted file.

1. Using sqlplus
   
   Set head off
   set pages 1000
   spool result.lis   
   Select col1 ||','|| col2 ||','|| col3 from table;
   spool off

or

2. Set colsep ,
   spool result.lis
   set head off
   set pages 1000
   select * from table;
   spool off


3. Using Jump.sql from jared site
   http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/util/util_master.html
   This is a very good utility.

4. Toad also can be used for this Purpose.
   download from www.toadsoft.com

5. Tabexp is a very good utility that can be downloaded from  
   www.materialdreams.com/product.html

Thanks to all who has replied for my qyery.
regds
deepender

 



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RE: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Smith, Ron L.

We tried that but we had times that tnsping would work but the client could
not connect to the database and return data.  We changed to a sqlplus call
which read the v$database view.  If we could read that, everyone should be
able to connect.  That doesn't solve the timeout problem though.

Ron

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Hi Barry!

We use the Oracle supplied program tnsping 
as in the following shell script snippet :
-
#!/bin/sh

PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/$ORACLE_HOME/bin
export PATH
# get SQL*NET alias from first argument or use ORCL as default
oradb=${1:ORCL}

if $ORACLE_HOME/bin/tnsping $oradb /dev/null 21 
then 
echo database $oradb is up
else
echo database $oradb is down ( tnsping returned $?)
fi
-

Hope this helps,
Andreas

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 Betreff:  Determining Oracle status
 
 Hi all, 
 
 I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
 instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
 thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it
 connects
 its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
 when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
 that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
 even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again,
 so
 unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
 If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
 attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
 finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to
 hear
 from you. 
 
 TIA for any responses. 
 
 Best Regards, 
 Barry. 
 
 
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Re: ORA-00600

2001-09-18 Thread Joe Testa

call support.

joe
Sirisha wrote:
 
 Hi
 I get this error ORA-00600 when i try to execute a stored procedure.
 
 The stored procedure gets compiled perfectly but gives this error at
 run-time while executing it from a java code. This is what i found in
 the alert log.
 
 Tue Sep 18 04:57:14 2001
 Errors in file
 /usr/local/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle/admin/HHME1/udump/ora_2825.trc:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kcbgtcr_4], [6529], [6707],
 [1049600], [1], [], [], []
 
 Can someone tell me how to deal with this problem,
 
 Thanx,
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RE: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Determining Oracle status





tnsping $ORACLE_SID works pretty well... 


Nick


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Hi all, 


I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again, so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear
from you. 


TIA for any responses. 


Best Regards, 
Barry. 



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AW: test schema from prod

2001-09-18 Thread Schoen Volker

Syntax is

imp user/pw@instance file=export.dmp fromuser=PORDSCHEMA touser=TESTSCHEMA
log=import.log

If you call imp help=y you can see all import parameters.

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import fromuser touser?

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Hi Friends,

I want to create test schema from my production database, What is best way 
to do that!! Any ideas or ways to create test schema fast!! I appreciate 
your time.


TIA
Raghu.




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RE: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread JOE TESTA



tnsping does not check for database up, its nothing more than a ping to a 
listener, they only sure way to see if the database is up is to connect to 
it.

and its still that way in 9i.

joe

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/01 02:40PM 
Hi Barry!We use the Oracle supplied program tnsping 
as in the following shell script snippet 
:-#!/bin/shPATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/$ORACLE_HOME/binexport 
PATH# get SQL*NET alias from first argument or use ORCL as 
defaultoradb=${1:ORCL}if $ORACLE_HOME/bin/tnsping $oradb 
/dev/null 21 then  echo "database $oradb 
is up"else  echo 
"database $oradb is down ( tnsping returned 
$?)"fi-Hope 
this helps, Andreas -- Von: 
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 Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Betreff: 
 Determining Oracle status  Hi all,  
 I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific 
oracle instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' 
command, so I thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus 
- If it connects its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. 
However, the problem is that when it isn't up, the script hangs and does 
not return anything - I think that this is because sqlplus by default 
gives you 3 attempts to logon, so even though the logon attempt failed, 
it is waiting for you to try again, so unfortunately I'm not 
getting a failed return code.  If anybody could tell me how to change 
this so that it only allows 1 login attempt before 'kicking you out' or 
whether there is a better method to finding out the status of an 
instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear from you. 
  TIA for any responses.   Best Regards, 
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RE: Accept statement

2001-09-18 Thread Guidry, Chris

Hi,
Use variable

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 I'm am trying to use an accept statement to grab some info from the user
 in
 an SQL script,
 and then use that in a subsequent PL/SQL block.  I can do the Accept ok,
 but
 can't sem to
 access the variable onside the block.  Can anyone point me in the right
 direction?
 
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Re: Materialized View/dbms_mview.refresh Question

2001-09-18 Thread mohammed bhatti

Just solved it...Duh!

as sys
grant alter any materialized view to User_B;

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 A.  The view consists of simple table joins and
 union
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 refresh on the MV using dbms_mview.refresh.
 
 I've granted select on all the tables to user B
 along
 with creating public synonyms for the tables.  I've
 also granted all privileges on the MV to user B and
 granted REWRITE privs to user B.
 
 When I exec dbms_mview.refresh('A.MVIEW_NAME', 'A');
 as user B, I get the following error:
 
 ORA-01031: Insufficent privileges
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_SNAPSHOT, line 610
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_SNAPSHOT, line 667
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_SNAPSHOT, line 647
 ORA-06512: at line 1
 
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Re: Good/Cheap Backup Agent?

2001-09-18 Thread DBarbour


Write your own scripts.  Not inexpensive considering the labor cost, but
highly satisfactory.

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Hi,

We're looking for an inexpensive backup agent for our
databases. The databases are 8i and are on Sun boxes
but we're looking to have the agent/client hosted from
an NT box (because it appears to be cheaper that way).

What are your recommendations? Do all of the agents
work through RMAN these days? Are there any features
or caveats I should look for?

Thanks!
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Re: Good/Cheap Backup Agent?

2001-09-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini

Go for it!  Rman is cheap (free with Oracle) and works well.  You can either
run it from OEM (Backup Manager) or directly from the rman prompt or using
shell scripts.

Good luck,
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RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-18 Thread Grabowy, Chris

I have done a couple DBA trips to the UK.  For food, I always skip the
restaurants and goto the pubs, the food has always been fresh and just
great!!  I usually order the special for the day, just to try different
things.  As for people, everyone has always been very polite and friendly.
On one trip, a buddy and I were trying to figure out on a map how to get
from the train station to a hotel.  The chap sitting across from us on the
train offered to walk us to the hotel.  We discovered that we had walked a
mile and in the opposite direction that he lives from the train station, so
we just had to buy him a beer.  I look forward to being forced to goto the
UK on another assignment...

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As for me, this is my 3rd job as an Oracle DBA.

My first job was working for a Porno Company based out
of Beverly Hills, CA. It was a small company (130
internal employees and 200 outside employees aka phone
actress and actors) that owned the majority of the
phone sex lines (over 10,000 lines coming in). As the
DBA, I reported to the owner. I supported and worked
closely with the developers and network admins. But my
major tasks were to automate business practices and to
suggest ways to improve perversion efficiency.

My Second job was working for a national VAR (value
added reseller) company which had strong ties to Sun
Microsystems, IBM, HP, SGI, etc. I reported to the
Co-owner of the company. My job role was to work
closely with the system admins to implement enterprise
solutions for major corporations.

My current job involves a large international
Manufacturing company. As the DBA, I report to the CIO
of the company. Each division has a MIS manager. My
role is to provide support to each division (which
sucks because I have to travel a lot, especially to
the UK...no offense to the people of the UK, but the
only good thing about the UK that I like are the
PUBS!!! The weather, some people and food is another
story).  My major tasks are to consolidate the
companies on a data level, which means I work closely
witht the ERP developers. I also make hardware and
software suggestions to ease operations.

Hope this helps! As far as being with the developers,
you will need to be with them regardless, either at
the beginning of development to make sure they don't
mess up the database or after development to fix the
problems that they did mess up.

Regards,
Satar

Please remember that TRUE muslims do not advocate
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:49:20 -0500
  Subject: The DBA in the IS organization
 
 I am wondering how my fellow DBA's fit into their
 IS organization.  My
 situation is this.  I was hired just a little over
 a year ago as a DBA but
 my official title is network programmer.  Except
 for some job scripting I
 have not done any coding.  I am the only DBA for 5
 Oracle databases and 4
 SQL Server installations.  Currently my boss is
 the head of development.
 I
 work with the developers and with the network
 admins equally.  I sometimes
 feel a bit of a conflict with me being under the
 developers.  I have been
 thinking about approaching the VP of IS about
 having me be under him
 rather
 than being under development.  I feel I need to
 have equal footing with
 the
 development managers and with the network admins. 
 Right now I am kind in
 limbo with no real authority.
 So anyway, I am just wondering where you fit in
 your organization and what
 is the appropriate place for the DBA.
 And yes I got called into work.  Sucks to be me
 today.  :o)
 
 FWIW, I as the only DBA report directly to the IS
 Manager.  We don't do much
 in-house development preferrring to purchase OTS
 solutions.  We have 2 folk
 managing the Network and Server Admin one of whom
 reports directly to the IS
 Manager.  We have some information analysts who also
 report directly to the
 IS Manager.   We're an NT house.  I have local admin
 rights on servers which
 host Oracle databases 6 in all with 10 databases.  I
 share an office with
 the NT admin folk.
 
 I would have thought that you being separate from
 developers from a
 reporting point of view would be an advantage. 
 Being amoung them is an
 advantage in that you might get to raise matters of
 concern before they go
 too far down the line.  I would think you'd need
 autonomy to defend amoungst
 other topics issues relating to database performance
 potentially with
 developers and/or adminstrators.
 
 So what perks if any do you get for being called in
 on a Saturday?.  The
 longer I hang around in this DBA field the more it
 seems to be like a
 vocation ;)  
 
 
 Sean :)
 
 Rookie Data Base Administrator
 Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K
 [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA
 [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA
 

Deploying middle-tier on unix.

2001-09-18 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi


We use 3-tier architecture to run our application, the middle tier being an
OAS. How many of you have the middle tier on UNIX platform? I want to know
the pros and cons of having my executables kept on unix server which are
then being accessed from a  windows based client.

Most of the links I have visited talk about middle tier being on an NT
machine. I would appreciate any kind of information on this.

rgds
amar


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Re: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread DBarbour


Barry,

Depending on your shell, start a timer (korn supports TMOUT).  If you don't
get a valid response within N seconds (trap the signal), you've got a
problem.

David A. Barbour
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Hi all,

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again,
so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code.
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to
hear
from you.

TIA for any responses.

Best Regards,
Barry.


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RE: Lots and lots of redo logs

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Buchan


Out of curiosity and as a test I scrubbed my 16Mb RAID1 array and set it up 
again with 5 x 50Mb redo groups.  I ran the following script to generate 
lots of redo:

begin
 for i in 1..1500 loop
 insert into test_table values (mod(i,10));
 delete from test_table where anumber = (mod(i+1,10));
 commit;
 end loop;
end;

ARCHIVELOG mode was on and the archive destination (on another disk) was 
initially empty.
There were 239 log switches and the test completed in 2 hours 56 minutes.

I then added a further 250 50Mb redo groups, cleared the archive 
destination and ran the test again.  Again it completed in exactly 2 hours 
56 minutes, this time 240 log switches (difference of 1, I guess due to 
whereabouts in the first log it was when the test started).

v$session_wait shows permanent log file parallel write for LGWR while the 
test runs.

Any suggestions why I failed to see any slow down when I (almost) filled 
the disk with redo groups?  (This server wasn't doing anything else and the 
time of the test).  The RAID1 array had a Linux ext2 filesystem on it and I 
had disabled the write cache.

Thanks again,
- Bill.

At 08:40 14/09/01 -0800, you wrote:
!! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!

Generally IDE shows this problem much more than scsi, but on IDE you can see
as much as 50% performance degrading, I haven't really tested the
difference.

If you put the logs on, then fill the rests of the disks with a empty file
of that size, you can make sure that the end of the disk is filled with junk
and the logs will never pull blocks from that area.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275

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North, Chelmsford 01863



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!! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!


How big a performance issue is the location of the log file on disk?  Even
if I create the minimum of 2 archive log groups, how can I be sure the
controller hasn't put these on the outer platters anyway?  Since these are
log files then the writes will be sequential anyway (does that make a
difference?) - showing my hardware ignorance here!

As you said:

But in my opinion here is my priorities.
1. Recoverability
2. Performance

I would have thought that having lots of archive log groups (normally) not
overwritten for a few days in addition to properly archived logs would
boost my recoverability with negligible impact on
performance.  (Incidentally the MAXLOGFILES maximum value is 255, on Linux
anyway).

Thanks
- Bill.

At 07:10 14/09/01 -0800, you wrote:
 !! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!
 
 It is very common for people to see all that free space and want to fill
it.
 Avoid the desire, fill it with a blank file.  Disks are cheap and if you
 store things on the outer platters performance will suffer.
 
 Redo logs and other things in oracle waste disk space as drives get bigger,
 it is unavoidable.  But using the space for something totally defeats the
 purpose of good configurations.
 
 Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
 when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.
 
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 Phone: (978) 322-5744
 Fax:(707) 885-2275
 
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 !! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!
 
 Hi
 
 Thanks.  That's a very good point.  I agree that ARCHIVELOG mode will be
 needed.
 
 However, I still have this big disk just for redo logs, so I'm tempted to
 fill it anyway.  This will be a sort of supplementary backup in case the
 archive disk (+ database disks) crash before the backup.  Of course it is
 only sort of because, as you say, a runaway process will cycle the logs
 if it generates lots of redo.
 
 However, this seems better use of the disk space than just having a few log
 groups and leaving the rest of the array empty and unused.
 Unless there are any other implications?
 
 Thanks
 - Bill.
 
 
 
  Hi
  
  
  Yes you can untill the day that you have this runaway process that
creates
  20Gb of redo and than crashes your database 5 minutes before the daily
  offline backup should kick in.
  
  But you are only mirroring, why not put your database in archivelogmode.
  You do not have so much redo per day that your disks/archiver can't
handle
  it. Now if your archive directory is full oracle won't crash, but just
stop
  untill you free up some space (I believe this is the behaviour anyway).
  
  
  
  Jack

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Re:Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread DBarbour


Dick,

I haven't seen oiconnect since v7x.  I used to use it (as we've discussed
here previously, tnsping and grepping processes for smon, pmon and the like
won't provide you with a definitive answer for a variety of reasons), but
have since switched to actually logging into the database via a script,
running a stored procedure and logging out.  If it fails, I'm alerted.

David A. Barbour
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Barry,

Do you get the IOUG-A mag?  There was a piece of Pro*C code therein
(I'm the
author) that did exactly what you want, but does not use SQL*Plus.  There
is
also 'oiconnect' that should be in $ORACLE_HOME/bin.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Barry Deevey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   9/18/2001 7:45 AM

Hi all,

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again,
so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code.
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to
hear
from you.

TIA for any responses.

Best Regards,
Barry.


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RE: ORA-00600

2001-09-18 Thread Jeffery Stevenson

What version of Oracle are you running?  I've seen this ORA-00600 mentioned
in two different patchset fixes (but I guess the bugs weren't public, 'cause
I couldn't view any details on them, so I can't be sure that the other
arguments in the 600 are referring to the same type of error you're having).
Hopefully these might help you narrow it down some so that maybe you can
figure out some kind of workaround for the interim.

Bug 590783 (fixed in 8.0.4.x patch sets) -- occurred when dereferencing
large VARRAYS

Bug(s) 1610791, 1620278 (fixed in 8.1.7.x patch sets) -- occurred when
selecting from an IOT via a secondary index

Jeffery Stevenson
Chief Databeast Tamer
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Hi
I get this error ORA-00600 when i try to execute a stored procedure.

The stored procedure gets compiled perfectly but gives this error at
run-time while executing it from a java code. This is what i found in
the alert log.

Tue Sep 18 04:57:14 2001
Errors in file
/usr/local/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle/admin/HHME1/udump/ora_2825.trc:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kcbgtcr_4], [6529], [6707],
[1049600], [1], [], [], []

Can someone tell me how to deal with this problem,

Thanx,
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RE: Alternatives to roles in procedures?

2001-09-18 Thread Jesse, Rich

Surely, my good man, you jest!  I'm just happy that I convinced peoples that
SELECT ANY TABLE, DELETE ANY TABLE, etc were BAD for app accounts.
That's why I need to do all the GRANTs.

Waiting for that first accidental drop of a SYS object...

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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Short answer:  No

When using procedures to allow access to a schema, you really should
consider using 3 schemas, not 2.

The C schema gets execute access to the procs in Schema B.   No users
will have access to the tables this way.

Jared
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RE: DB Names in multiple oracle installs

2001-09-18 Thread Walthour, Jon (GEAE, Compaq)
Title: Message



Sujatha:

I've 
never done this myself, but I would think if you set us a second listener on a 
different port, it should work from a SQL*Net point of view. However, you'd 
probably have problems in the ORATAB file and in the local environment itself 
with things like svrmgrl. On NT I'm sure it's not possible as the names of the 
db services would be identical. So, I don't think it's possible from every 
aspect. But I'm curious now if someone else has better ideas than 
I.

Jon Walthour

  
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  2001 9:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: DB Names in multiple oracle 
  installs
  Hi,
  
  Is 
  it possible to call two databases the same name if they are residing on the 
  same machine, in different oracle homes? ... One database is version 8.0.6 and 
  the other is 8.1.7.
  
  Thanks
  
  Sujatha


time synchronization

2001-09-18 Thread Shevtsov, Eduard

Hi List,

we have about 2 min difference between the time on our db server and the
rest boxes in our network.
Actually, the time on DB server is 2min slow than the network time.It causes
real pain to us.

I think about the following order of time synchronization:

1. Normal shutdown the DB and listener
2. immediate cold backup
2. setup time synchronization on the unix level
3. startup the DB and listener
4. Normal shutdown DB and listener
5. immediate cold backup
6. startup DB and listener

Is this correct ? Any possible troubles? Any good links?

Thanks in advance,
Ed
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RE: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Glenn Travis

Here's mine.  Substitute 'user/pass' for 'internal' when running against external 
instances...

if sqlplus -s EOF | grep -q XOK
internal
select dummy||'OK' from dual;
EOF
then echo Oracle Instance ${ORACLE_SID} is up.
else echo Oracle Instance ${ORACLE_SID} is down.
fi

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Hi all, 

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again, so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear
from you. 

TIA for any responses. 

Best Regards, 
Barry. 


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Need assistance with a 'VIEW'.

2001-09-18 Thread William Rogge

I have been given the nice task of creating a view of some data in our database.

This doesn't seem like a major task, but after 2 days of work, I am stumped.

Given table 'table1'
   code1,
   code2,
   date,
   value1,
   value2

I need to produce a view showing
   code1,
   code2,
   sum(value1),
   sum(value2)
  where date  'user input date'

I have not been able to get the view to prompt for the date to limit the sum by.

Specifics:
  Oracle RDMBS  7.3.4
  Server:  Unix

What else can I say, but I am totally stumped.   HELP!
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OT: Need Hardware advice under Linux

2001-09-18 Thread Schoen Volker
Title: OT: Need Hardware advice under Linux





Hi List,


I want so setup new oracle server (for developement) under linux. I will install RedHat 7.1. What I like to know is what processor should I choose

AMD Athlon 1,4 Ghz or Intel 1,5 Ghz, I would prefer AMD.


Are there any know problems with AMD and RedHat 7.1?


TIA


Volker Schoen
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http://www.inplan.de






Need assistance with a 'VIEW'.

2001-09-18 Thread William Rogge

I have been given the nice task of creating a view of some data in our database.

This doesn't seem like a major task, but after 2 days of work, I am stumped.

Given table 'table1'
   code1,
   code2,
   date,
   value1,
   value2

I need to produce a view showing
   code1,
   code2,
   sum(value1),
   sum(value2)
  where date  'user input date'

I have not been able to get the view to prompt for the date to limit the sum by.

Specifics:
  Oracle RDMBS  7.3.4
  Server:  Unix

What else can I say, but I am totally stumped.   HELP!
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RE: Copy Oracle's binary.

2001-09-18 Thread Feng, Jun



Your 
were right. If you want to upgrade the copied Oracle, you would have problem. 
What we didwas move the executables from environment to environment, so we 
only do one time install on development machine, and copy the executables to all 
others (test and product).

Jun

  -Original Message-From: Kimberly Smith 
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  2001 7:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Copy Oracle's binary.
  Have 
  you upgraded those databases? Its no longer possible to 
  just
  copy 
  ORACLE_HOME and expect to be able to upgrade it. That 
  being
  said, I never did bother to identify the other 
  directories as I felt
  it 
  was just as easy to install the software. 
  
  You 
  could do a full system copy though. 
  
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PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
Copy Oracle's binary.
Sure. We have done that many 
times.

Jun

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  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Copy Oracle's binary.
  Hello,
  
  I've two machines (with the same unix's 
  configuration on Sun Solaris). On hasOracle 8.1.7. installed and a 
  database. Do you think it'spossible to copy Oracle's binary and the 
  database onUnix level to the new serveur instead of installing and 
  cloning the db ?
  
  Thank you very much.
  
  Thanh-truc Nguyen 
  


RE: 9i D/l

2001-09-18 Thread Christopher Spence

Been getting that error for a long time when I tried getting the Linux
version.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Hi List

Have any of you been successful in d/lng 9i for NT from technet ?? I am
getting Server not found.  Is there any other mirror fromwhich I can d/l ??

TIA

Srini

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RE: Looking for 24 X 7 Design Considerations

2001-09-18 Thread Christopher Spence

Only a little over 4 years here and a sys admin for 7, but I completely
agree 100%.

What a lot of people neglect is the bugs that he mentioned, yeah it may test
well under development, or under certain testing, and may even run fine for
a while even months, but when one of those new bugs come up out of no where,
and no one is familiar with it, it can cripple you.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Sure i've hit the undo management bug that wiped out my SAND box
database just last week, db got hung up, had to shutdown abort and then
redo logs/undo management tablespace couldnt be mounted so it was
screwed.

Sorry but I've been an oracle dba since version 5 almost 10 years ago
and my personal opinion is i'd never put a x.0 version of oracle in
production mode before its been out for 12 months.

joe
Paul Baumgartel wrote:
 
 I agree with you, Charlie.  The fact that an Oracle release is
 relatively new doesn't mean it's riddled with bugs (although that was
 once the case); neither does the fact that it's been out for 12 months
 or so mean that there aren't any show-stoppers lurking within.
 
 I've made the case before that 9i should be considered more as if it
 were 8.2.  Yes, it's new, and yes, you should test and verify
 carefully, but it's not as large a leap as going from Oracle7 to
 Oracle8, for example.
 
 Paul Baumgartel
 
 --- Charlie Mengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I guess then I'm nutso, because I have a 9i DB in production.
  Any independently verifiable substantiation for your claim would be
  welcomed.
  This 9i instance has had flawless performance for the last two
  months;
  which
  is how long it has been in production.
 
   Original Message 
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   Anyone contemplating upgrading anything more important than a
  sandbox
  database to 9i is nutso. 9i is ready for development playing around
  in
  6-8 months, production no earlier than 12-18 months is my
  estimation. joe
 
 
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OT RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-18 Thread Michael Barger

*How* is this related to oracle?

There is an OFF-TOPIC list for this list for these kinds of 
posts..   Please keep them there.

Michael B,
Who is not afraid to ask people to keep off-topic stuff off this list.

At 07:46 AM 9/18/01 -0800, Grabowy, Chris wrote:
I have done a couple DBA trips to the UK.  For food, I always skip the
restaurants and goto the pubs, the food has always been fresh and just

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Re: 8.1.7.2.1 patch for hp-ux 64 bit

2001-09-18 Thread Joan Hsieh



I have no problem to download this patch for AIX. I used winzip to unzip
it.

Joan
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RE: How to interpret Alert.Log Trace files...

2001-09-18 Thread Christopher Spence

Sometimes you can resolve ORA-600 messages, there are a few documented ones
(not by oracle of course).  But generally I would say it to be very good
practice to call Oracle and have a tar in place for it, they do very little
to document ORA-600 messages, there are many combinations.

Although, I must say, Metalink occasionally does come up with some good
results, granted the message may not have the same numbers, but reading the
description you may find an exact match of what your doing and get in the
area.  But it is hit or miss.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Denmark,

I am not an expert but from everything I have read is that when you get
ORA-00600 errors you should probably open a TAR with Oracle.  It may not be
much but why take the chance.
I would be interested in that tuning script that you downloaded.  Cound you
send it to me directly or let me know where you downloaded it from?

Thanks,

Dave

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Hi DBA's

I'm currently monitoring the Oracle SIDALRT.LOG and *.TRC files in
$ORACLE_HOME/RDBMS80/TRACE on our production Oracle 805 database.
I've observed the following files being used by Oracle in that directory:
SIDP000.TRC  5MB
SIDP001.TRC  5MB
SIDP002.TRC  5MB
SIDP003.TRC  5MB
SIDP004.TRC  Current Trace file

Other trace files exist in the directory with the following naming 
convention: Ora9.trc

One is generated everytime I run the BACKUP CONTROLFILE TO TRACE command. 
However, I notice that each Ora9.trc generated with the CONTROLFILE 
TRACE has other trace dumps in it as well from previous events. For example,

the last CONTROLFILE Trace written (Ora00479.trc) (8 Aug 2001 8:03 AM) has 
this entry at the beginning:

Dump file e:\orant\rdbms80\trace\ORA00479.TRC
Tue Aug 07 16:38:30 2001
ORACLE V8.0.5.0.0 - Production vsnsta=0
vsnsql=c vsnxtr=3
Windows NT V4.0, OS V5.101, CPU type 586
Oracle8 Enterprise Edition Release 8.0.5.0.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 8.0.5.0.0 - Production
Windows NT V4.0, OS V5.101, CPU type 586
Instance name: prod

Redo thread mounted by this instance: 1

Oracle process number: 38

pid: 1df


*** 2001.08.07.16.38.30.976
*** SESSION ID:(28.1790) 2001.08.07.16.38.30.945
FATAL ERROR IN TWO-TASK SERVER: error = 12571
*** 2001.08.07.16.38.30.976
ksedmp: internal or fatal error
- Call Stack Trace -
...
...Dump file e:\orant\rdbms80\trace\ORA00479.TRC
Fri Aug 24 08:03:32 2001
ORACLE V8.0.5.0.0 - Production vsnsta=0
vsnsql=c vsnxtr=3
Windows NT V4.0, OS V5.101, CPU type 586
Oracle8 Enterprise Edition Release 8.0.5.0.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 8.0.5.0.0 - Production
Windows NT V4.0, OS V5.101, CPU type 586
Instance name: prod

Redo thread mounted by this instance: 1

Oracle process number: 11

pid: 1df


*** SESSION ID:(12.39) 2001.08.24.08.03.32.433
*** 2001.08.24.08.03.32.433
# The following commands will create a new control file and use it
# to open the database.
# Data used by the recovery manager will be lost. Additional logs may
# be required for media recovery of offline data files. Use this
# only if the current version of all online logs are available.
STARTUP NOMOUNT
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE ORCL NORESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG
MAXLOGFILES 32
MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
MAXDATAFILES 254
MAXINSTANCES 1
MAXLOGHISTORY 618
LOGFILE
  GROUP 1 'E:\ORANT\DATABASE\LOGPROD1.ORA'  SIZE 1M,
  GROUP 2 'E:\ORANT\DATABASE\LOGPROD2.ORA'  SIZE 1M
DATAFILE
  'E:\ORANT\DATABASE\SYS1PROD.ORA',
  'E:\ORANT\DATABASE\RBS1PROD.ORA',
  'E:\ORANT\DATABASE\USR1PROD.ORA',
  'E:\ORANT\DATABASE\TMP1PROD.ORA',
  'E:\ORANT\DATABASE\INDX1PROD.ORA',
  'E:\ORANT\DATABASE\IRDBASEPROD.ORA',
  'E:\ORANT\DATABASE\ROLL1PROD.ORA'
;
# Recovery is required if any of the datafiles are restored backups,
# or if the last shutdown was not normal or immediate.
RECOVER DATABASE
# All logs need archiving and a log switch is needed.
ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG ALL;
# Database can now be opened normally.
ALTER DATABASE OPEN;

**
**

Now to get to my questions.
I'm noticing the following entries in the PRODALRT.LOG.
Below is a paste of the entries logged since this morning:

Completed: alter tablespace SYSTEM end backup
Fri Aug 24 08:03:26 2001
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 3880
  Current log# 2 seq# 3880 mem# 0: E:\ORANT\DATABASE\LOGPROD2.ORA
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 3881
  Current log# 1 seq# 3881 mem# 0: E:\ORANT\DATABASE\LOGPROD1.ORA
Fri Aug 24 08:03:31 2001
alter database backup controlfile to 'CTL1PROD.8am'

Fri Aug 24 08:03:32 2001
Completed: alter database backup controlfile 

OT: Web Logic Server

2001-09-18 Thread Ivan_Rivera
Title: OT: Web Logic Server





Greetings to all.


Are there any Web Logic Guru's out there? Does anyone know of any forums/lists or url's that deal with web logic issues. Searching google seems to only point to bea's site. Anyone out there running 4.5.1? We're having some complications here that I just can't figure out and searching and reading from docs.bea.com isn't helping. Thanks




RE: any body come across, decreasing db_block_size.

2001-09-18 Thread Christopher Spence

Yes, it would work both ways.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Hi lists

have any body come across, decreasing db_block_size.

we know that the db_block_size can be increased.

to do this, usual way is export full db. create new db with new
increased db_block_size and import the data into it.

will this work for decrease db_block_size.

my present size is 8 k now that should be decreased to 4K

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RE: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)

Barry:

I've seen responses saying to use TNSPING, but all that does is tell you if
the listener is running on the destination machine.  If the listener is up
and no databases are up you will still get a positive response from TNSPING.

So, here's what we do.  This ksh function snippet requires that your 
remote database be defined in your TNSNAMES.ORA file.  This function
attempts
to login with a completely invalid user id and password.  If Oracle returns
a ORA-01017 (invalid username/password; logon denied), then the database
is available.  Any other message and the database is not available.

I didn't write this, but I use it a lot.

Cheers,
Mike


#---
IsTheDatabaseUp()
{
STAT=`sqlplus -silent EOF
dumusr/dumpass@$1
exit
EOF`
echo ${STAT} | grep ORA-01017  /dev/null 21
if [ $? = 0 ]
then
   DBUP=T
   echo `date` (: $1 UP  ${OUTPUT}/logs/${BASEFILE}.log 21
else
   DBUP=F
   echo `date` (: $1 DOWN  ${OUTPUT}/logs/${BASEFILE}.log 21
fi
return
}
#---

---
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Hi all, 

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again, so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear
from you. 

TIA for any responses. 

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Info request for installing Ora 7.3 on AIX 4.1

2001-09-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Dba's,
in my company they told me to create a DB on an IBM AIX box.
I'm new on the AIX environment (I come from VMS) and I have only
found the Oracle
installation manual (Oracle7 Installation and Configuration Guide
for IBM RS/6000 ) that seems to me a little confusing.
There is someone, experienced in these tasks, that can suggest me
some more practical hints to accomplish the task?
( a check-list or a document or a link to a document; after the
creation of DB I have also to import a production DB ).
Many thanks,
Francesco







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Resources for Gateway to MQ Series

2001-09-18 Thread Bond Mike A Contr OC-ALC/TILC



Good 
morning,

I am 
investigating Procedural Gateway for IBM's MQ Series. Documentation seems 
to be hard to find.Can anyone suggest a resource (links, books, etc) that would 
help in this area?

Thanks,

Mike


Re: Good/Cheap Backup Agent?

2001-09-18 Thread Walter K

I neglected to mention that we're trying to backup to
tape. I'm not sure what is involved with configuring a
media manager for Oracle that will allow Rman to work
with a tape drive but it would seem to me at that
point I'm into a 3rd party solution anyway. Yes? No?  

What does it take to get a tape drive to work with
RMAN? If a 3rd party solution is better, then I'm back
to inquiring about an inexpensive, but useful,
solution.

Thanks.
-w

--- Ruth Gramolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Go for it!  Rman is cheap (free with Oracle) and
 works well.  You can either
 run it from OEM (Backup Manager) or directly from
 the rman prompt or using
 shell scripts.
 
 Good luck,
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  Hi,
 
  We're looking for an inexpensive backup agent for
 our
  databases. The databases are 8i and are on Sun
 boxes
  but we're looking to have the agent/client hosted
 from
  an NT box (because it appears to be cheaper that
 way).
 
  What are your recommendations? Do all of the
 agents
  work through RMAN these days? Are there any
 features
  or caveats I should look for?
 
  Thanks!
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Re: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Richard Ji

Don't know how to change it to only 1 login attempt.  But I would do a select sysdate 
from dual;
after connect via sqlplus.  This way if the 1st login failed, the SQL statement will 
cause the next two
attemt fail as well and sqlplus will exit.

Richard Ji

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Hi all, 

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again, so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear
from you. 

TIA for any responses. 

Best Regards, 
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RE: truncating snapshots

2001-09-18 Thread A. Bardeen

Henry,

OK, I think I see what you're trying to accomplish. 
By truncating the snapshot between refreshes, the
refresh is essentially populating the snapshot with
only the changed rows from the master site.

Probably not supported, but I can't see that it would
cause any real problems.  The way the refresh
mechanism works, the missing rows on the snapshot site
shouldn't be a problem.  

I see a couple of potential problems, however.

1.  The refresh will pull over all changed rows on the
master site, in your case inserts AND updates.  So if
a row does get updated on the master site, then it
will get refreshed to the snapshot site and your
counts will be off since you'll be treating the update
of an existing row as a newly inserted row.

It all depends on how critical the numbers are for the
developers, because I can assure you it's only a
matter of time before someone updates rows on a table
that should only have inserts ;)

2.  If a fast refresh fails this requires that the
next refresh is a complete refresh, or the snapshot is
recreated, so you will not have a way of getting just
the set of changed rows.  Your procedure will need to
be able to detect this and perform the joins against
the entire table again.

In the long run you're probably much better off
developing your own trigger to populate another table
or setting a flag, as you mentioned.  Just because it
works today doesn't mean that it will work in a newer
release if they change the refresh mechanism.  

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Henry Poras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Guess I wasn't too clear. Here's the scoop (there is
 probably a much easier
 way to do this, but I just can't get there from
 here). There is a 10million
 row table on a remote database. Each week, there is
 a change in about
 5-10,000 rows (inserts). Currently this table is
 brought over to a local
 database. A convoluted query is then run to keep our
 developers happy and
 the result set is entered into another table. The
 query, though convoluted,
 does not use any aggregate functions, just a mess of
 joins. Right now this
 query is run on the complete 10 million row table
 brought over from the
 remote database. What I would like to do is to run
 the query on just the new
 rows, appending this result to the existing data.
 Since the snapshot log
 used for a fast refresh already keeps track of this
 for me I thought it
 might be a nice way to go. (I guess I could always
 flip a flag field, but
 why do extra work if Oracle already does it for me?)
 
 
 So my plan was to create a procedure which will
 manually take a fast
 refresh, run the query, check for success, truncate
 the table underlying the
 snapshot view. Since the underlying structure is
 just a table, and the
 master log data transfer is strictly in one
 direction, it looks like it
 should work, but are there any gothchas? It seems to
 be OK on a test system.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:38 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Henry Poras
 
 
 Henry,
 
 I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by
 truncating the snapshot.  The whole point of the
 refresh process is to keep the snapshot in sync with
 the master site.
 
 Presumably you are doing a CTAS off of the snapshot
 to
 do your manipulations, so what is the point in
 truncating the snapshot?  I don't have a db handy to
 test whether Oracle detects that the snapshot has
 been
 truncated and does a complete refresh, but if the
 snapshot is very large it would probably be faster
 to
 drop and recreate it than to do a complete refresh.
 
 A more detailed explanation of the process would
 help.
 
 HTH,
 
 -- Anita
 
 --- Henry Poras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  !! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!
  
  I need to move the changes in a table from one
  database to another. It
  seemed that fast snapshots would be a good way to
 do
  this as the database
  will automatically keep track of the changes for
 me.
  The question is that
  once I move the data to the snapshot side, I need
 to
  manipulate it, move it
  into another table, and start the cycle again.
 This
  means truncating the
  snapshot between refreshes. I tried this on a test
  system and it seesm to
  work, but I don't think Oracle supports it. I
 don't
  want updatable snapshots
  as this is strictly one way movement of data. Has
  anyone else tried this?
  Are there any potential problems? I think I am
 just
  truncating a table
  underlying the snapshot view so I don't see what
  could go wrong.
  
  Thanks.
  
  Henry


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RE: ORA-00600

2001-09-18 Thread Gogala, Mladen

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 Subject: ORA-00600
 
 
 
 Hi
 I get this error ORA-00600 when i try to execute a stored 
 procedure.
 
 The stored procedure gets compiled perfectly but gives this error at
 run-time while executing it from a java code. This is what i found in
 the alert log.
 
 Tue Sep 18 04:57:14 2001
 Errors in file
 /usr/local/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle/admin/HHME1/udump/ora_2825.trc:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kcbgtcr_4], 
 [6529], [6707],
 [1049600], [1], [], [], []
 
 Can someone tell me how to deal with this problem,
 
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## 7.3.4 to 8.1.6 Migration issue

2001-09-18 Thread Warkentien, Stephen

I am migrating from 7.3.4 to 8.1.6 (Enterprise Edition) on Solaris 2.8

Before running the migration I took all the tablespaces except SYSTEM and
Rollback offline as recommended.
When I issued Alter database open resetlogs;  I got the following message
for almost every file in the database:

File #3 is offline, but part of an online tablespace.
Successfully brought file #3 online.

Can anyone explain this error please?  Oracle support is saying that all the
files should have been offline, and if not the migration must be restarted.

TIA!!


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Re: Perl code example

2001-09-18 Thread Jared Still

 I'm looking for a Perl example passing parameters.

 The code below has the userids and passwords hardcoded in clear text in the
 system line, parms 3 and 5 (five lines from the bottom), and the Oracle sid
 is hardcoded also.  The code has to be changed to 1) read .pwd1 and .pwd2
 files containing the passwords, and set a literal for the SID and
 substitute it at in the code.

Linda,

Here's a cheap lightweight password server.

Put the files pwd.pm and pwd.pl into a directory
and try as is.

Follow the example of the template in pwd.pm and fill
in with your own wervers/instances/usernames.

Copy the file 'pwd.pm' to some secure location, and change
the line use lib  './ to use lib 'full_path_to_pwd.pm.

You can cut and paste pwd.pl into your code.

When 'Perl for Oracle DBA's' comes out ( or whatever we
eventually call it  it will have a network password
server in it, with encrypted transmissions.

This one should suffice though.

Jared

PS. the power of Perl demonstrated. this took 30 minutes. :)


 pwd.pl 
#!/usr/bin/perl

use lib './';

use pwd;
use Getopt::Long;

my %optctl;

GetOptions( \%optctl,
username:s,
instance:s,
server:s,
z|h|help = \$help
);

if ( $help ) {
usage();
exit 1;
}

$optctl{server} || do { usage();exit 2};
$optctl{instance} || do { usage();exit 3};
$optctl{username} || do { usage();exit 4};

my $password = pwd::password(
$optctl{server},
$optctl{instance},
$optctl{username}
);

print Password: $password\n;

sub usage {
print qq{
pwd.pl
  --server
  --instance
  --username
};
}
hŽ

 pwd.pm


package pwd;

$PKG = pwd;

=head1

stuff between '=head1' and '=cut' is comments

here's an example

my %passwd = (
server = {
instance = {
username = 'password',
username = 'password'
}
}
);

=cut

%passwd = (

venus = {

db1 = {
system = 'foxtrot',
sys = 'over_the_hedge'
},

db2 = {
system = 'user_friendly',
sys = 'gpf-comics'
}

},

mars = {
db1 = {
system = 'ubersoft',
sys = 'get_fuzzy'
},

db3 = {
system = 'schlock',
sys = 'mercenary'
}

}
);

sub password {
my ( $server, $instance, $username ) = @_;
use Carp;

$server || croak Please specify server in $PKG\n;
$instance || croak Please specify instance in $PKG\n;
$username || croak Please specify username in $PKG\n;

$passwd{$server}{$instance}{$username};

}



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sizeiof table!!!

2001-09-18 Thread Alexander Ordonez

Hi gurus, 
I need get the size in bytes of any table!!!

thanks!!!

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List of changed objects in the DB

2001-09-18 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Hi all,

is it possible to identify only those objects that have changed since a
given date? Wait ... I know last_ddl_timestamp but we would like to EXCLUDE
stored code which has been recompiled and INCLUDE only those procedures/
functions/ packages that were created.

any ideas?

TIA
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RE: Need assistance with a 'VIEW'.

2001-09-18 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

William,

Views can't prompt the User for values.

Maybe a stored function or procedure would be better?  An application
interface could store a User-provided Date in a public packaged variable,
which could be referenced in the Where clause of the view.

Do you want to Group By just Code1,Code2 or Group By Code1,Code2,Date?  In
other words, do you want just one resultant row representing the aggregate
of all rows with Date  InputDate, or a resultant row for every Date?

We need more info.

Jack


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I have been given the nice task of creating a view of some data in our
database.

This doesn't seem like a major task, but after 2 days of work, I am stumped.

Given table 'table1'
   code1,
   code2,
   date,
   value1,
   value2

I need to produce a view showing
   code1,
   code2,
   sum(value1),
   sum(value2)
  where date  'user input date'

I have not been able to get the view to prompt for the date to limit the sum
by.

Specifics:
  Oracle RDMBS  7.3.4
  Server:  Unix

What else can I say, but I am totally stumped.   HELP!
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RE: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

I don't how to stop after 1st failed attempt, but here is a script that I
use to check if database is up or not.

#!/usr/bin/ksh
#
# dbcheck : Script to check if datbase is up and accessible.
#It tries to connect via SQL*Net (Net8) using a non-existing
userid and password.
#
# Author : Kirti Deshpande
#---
 
echo Enter Name of the Database SID to check if it is accessible
read DB

sqlplus -s  EOF  /tmp/$$.1
whenever sqlerror exit
aaa/aaa@$DB
exit;
EOF
egrep 'ORA-121|ORA-01034' /tmp/$$.1  /dev/null
if [[ $? = 0 ]]
then
   echo - '$DB' is _NOT_ Accessible\n 
else
   grep 'ORA-01017' /tmp/$$.1  /dev/null
   if [[ $? = 0 ]]
   then
 echo - '$DB' is UP and Accessible\n 
   else
 echo - '$DB' is _NOT_ Accessible\n 
   fi
fi
rm /tmp/$$.1

# --- End of File

HTH,

Regards,

- Kirti Deshpande 
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   http://www.superpages.com

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 Subject:  Determining Oracle status
 
 Hi all, 
 
 I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
 instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
 thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it
 connects
 its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
 when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
 that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
 even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again,
 so
 unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
 If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
 attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
 finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to
 hear
 from you. 
 
 TIA for any responses. 
 
 Best Regards, 
 Barry. 
 
 
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Re: Turning off output when running pl/sql

2001-09-18 Thread Paul Baumgartel

Just SET FEEDBACK OFF.

SQL set feedback off serveroutput on size 2
SQL begin
  2  dbms_output.put_line('Foo');
  3  end;
  4  /
Foo
--- Steven Hovington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm running a block of PL/SQL in SQL Plus (8.1.7), and when its
 completed
 it says the usual:
 
 PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
 
 at the end.
 I'm spooling the output of the PL/SQL block to a file using
 dbms_put.put_line
 but I want to get rid of the above line.  Anyone know how I can do
 this?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Steven H.
 
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Re:Accept statement

2001-09-18 Thread dgoulet

Steve,

Is that 'inside the block' or 'outside the block'?  I assume inside. 
therefore try:

accept var_a char prompt 'Insert your variable'

declare
  local_var varchar2(100) := var_a;
begin
 
end;
/

Dick Goulet

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I'm am trying to use an accept statement to grab some info from the user in
an SQL script,
and then use that in a subsequent PL/SQL block.  I can do the Accept ok, but
can't sem to
access the variable onside the block.  Can anyone point me in the right
direction?

Thanks in advance.


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RE: Looking for 24 X 7 Design Considerations

2001-09-18 Thread Kimberly Smith

Man, that was one of their most stable releases.  Missing some
nice features mind you.  I wish I could bring one of my databases
up to that level.  I have one on a very buggy release of 7.3.3
but the vendor application that runs on it is not supported higher
then that.

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7.3.4.5?

Ok, Charlie, now you're too far the other direction. :)

Jared



 

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Just so folks do NOT get the wrong idea, let me clarify.
Please note I said a production database. It is not THE
Production Database; which is still firmly planted in V7.3.4.5.
I've taken a few limited activity tablespaces up to 9i to
take advantage of 8i features; such as partitioning. I, too
would be hesitant to move into Production code that
makes use of 9i Bleeding Edge features. However I am
perfectly comfortable with moving V7 code onto a
tested 9i DB. Since our tests showed a stable DB,
I moved directly to 9i to avoid doing multiple upgrades
over the next 6 - 12 months.






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RE: Alternatives to roles in procedures?

2001-09-18 Thread Jesse, Rich

Interesting!  However, if I had shown a real-world example, I think it
would've poked a hole in your excellent idea.  Add schema C (and D and
E) onto this example that schema B also needs to access.

Ain't no way in hell the devs are gonna rewrite all of their code to
accommodate Jeff T's environment, either.

Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm looking at the brute force method,
methinks.  :)

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um, create the procedures in schema A and grant execute to schema B?  
removes the need for direct grants on the tables.


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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:30:24 -0800

So, there we are, in 8.1.7 on HP/UX 11.0.  We have several dozen tables in
schema A that need to be accessed from procedures in schema B.  We had
previously been using a role to grant access to these tables but now with
the procedures, this ain't an option.

Are there any alternatives to granting SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, etc
on each table to schema B?

TIA,
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RE: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Christopher Spence

Use sqlplus internal, although this goes away with 9i

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Hi all, 

I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I
thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it connects
its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that
when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think
that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so
even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again, so
unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to
finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to hear
from you. 

TIA for any responses. 

Best Regards, 
Barry. 


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RE: RDA from OWS - anyone used it?

2001-09-18 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Steve,

I've used it a couple of times on NT against a test instance.

It seemed to produce some useful information re wait events, tablespace
sizings etc but probably nothing that you wouldn't be collecting anyway.
It does however put them into a nice html report.

Would be useful I imagine for Oracle support to ensure that who they are
talking to can provide them with the information they want.

I also will be interested in other's comments.

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Has anyone implemented and used RDA? (It's a diagnostic tool from OWS.)

It might be semi-cool ;-)  ...Comments?

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Re: Determining Oracle status

2001-09-18 Thread Sakthi , Raj

Check out the following script.

*** SCRIPT STARTS
HERE*
#!/usr/bin/sh 
###
#
#   Auther  : Raj Sakthi
#   
#   Modification History: 
#   02/23/01: Network Connectivity Checking was added
.   
#
#   *** THIS SCRIPT CHECKS FOR THE AVAILABILITY OF
INSTANCE ALONG WITH THE  
#   *** NETWORK CONNECTIVITY   
  
#
#   Usage   :  Pass SID as parameter.  
# Example   :  sid_run orcl
# 

export CHECK_CONNECT=$$.CHECK_CONNECT
export READY=$$.ready
SID=$1
rm -f $READY
print 
 connect a/aa@$SID
  host touch $READY
 exit  |
 sqlplus /nolog   $CHECK_CONNECT 
#
# Next we use a timer to check the sqlplus
hanging.
#
((timeout = 60))
while ((timeout -= 1))  [[ ! -r $READY ]]
do
sleep 1
done
#
# If the file Doesn't exist then we check for internal
connectivity ..
#
if [  ! -f $READY ]
  then
 print 
 connect internal
 exit  |
 sqlplus /nolog  $SID_connect.log
 egrep 'Connected' $SID_connect.log 
/dev/null
  if [ $? = 0 ]
 then
 echo  Problem in Network connectivity of
$SID 
 else
 echo  Instance $SID is not responding 
#
# Here we decide that Database is unavailable Due to
SQLPLUS hanging . 
#---
 exit 86
  fi
fi 
   egrep 'ORA-01034|ORA-12224|ORA-12154'
$CHECK_CONNECT  /dev/null
if [[ $? = 0 ]]; then
   echo Instance '$SID' is NOT accessible, or invalid
ORACLE_SID
   rm $CHECK_CONNECT
   rm $READY
#
# Here instance is not availablestaight and
simple..: )
#-
   exit 86
else   
#
# Check for INSTANCE availability by the specific
ORACLE error..slick ..eh?!
#-
   grep 'ORA-01017' $CHECK_CONNECT  /dev/null   
  if [[ $? = 0 ]]; then
  echo Instance '$SID' is UP and Accessible 
 
   else   
#
#To catch any other  error .
#
  echo Instance '$SID' is HAVING UNKNOWN ERROR.
\n Verify Instance internal state 
   fi 
fi
rm $CHECK_CONNECT
rm $READY
 END  
regards,
RS


--- Barry Deevey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 I am trying to write a script in unix that
 determines if a specific oracle
 instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the
 'ps' command, so I
 thought the easiest method would be to connect via
 sqlplus - If it connects
 its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However,
 the problem is that
 when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not
 return anything - I think
 that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3
 attempts to logon, so
 even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting
 for you to try again, so
 unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
 If anybody could tell me how to change this so that
 it only allows 1 login
 attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is
 a better method to
 finding out the status of an instance, I would be
 extremely grateful to hear
 from you. 
 
 TIA for any responses. 
 
 Best Regards, 
 Barry. 
 
 
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Re: time synchronization

2001-09-18 Thread John Carlson



Oracle is designed to handle time changes. For 
example switching to and from daylight savings. This is because the 
archive logging is not dependent on a date. It has its own sequence. 
Therefore changing the date and time even while oracle is up is no 
problem. I have done this many times for testing. The only thing to 
watch for is if you are using DBMS_JOBS. Changing the time may cause a job 
not to execute or to run when you don't want it to. Just make sure there 
is no time conflict with any of these jobs and also 'cron' jobs and go ahead and 
change the time. I believe your backup strategy is an overkill which I 
personally would not do but you decide if you would feel safer with the backups, 
then go ahead with your plan.

HTH,
John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/01 08:46AM 
Hi List,we have about 2 min difference between the time 
on our db server and therest boxes in our network.Actually, the time on 
DB server is 2min slow than the network time.It causesreal pain to 
us.I think about the following order of time synchronization:1. 
Normal shutdown the DB and listener2. immediate cold backup2. setup time 
synchronization on the unix level3. startup the DB and listener4. Normal 
shutdown DB and listener5. immediate cold backup6. startup DB and 
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RE: List of changed objects in the DB

2001-09-18 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: List of changed objects in the DB





you might want to take a look at Schema Manager from Quest Software (www.quest.com)... it will not only show you what has changed since the last time you used it... but also build you the code to apply and rollback those changes to different systems... for use when migrating changes from dev to test to pilot and then on to production. It's a great product for change management. 

Nick


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Hi all,


is it possible to identify only those objects that have changed since a
given date? Wait ... I know last_ddl_timestamp but we would like to EXCLUDE
stored code which has been recompiled and INCLUDE only those procedures/
functions/ packages that were created.


any ideas?


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need an 8.0.5 client and an 8.1.7 client on same machine

2001-09-18 Thread Doug C

I need to get an 8.0.5 client and an 8.1.7 client working on the same machine.
Currently, the 8.1.7 is the only one installed.  This is an NT
winframe/metaframe server running NT 4.0.  Some apps use the 8.1.7 client and
some will require the 8.0.5.

Any suggestions before I start the surgery?

Thanks,
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Re: Need assistance with a 'VIEW'.

2001-09-18 Thread Greg Moore

A view is simply an SQL statement.  In your case you want the user to be
able to specify a specific date.  The problem is quite specific:  Each
different date makes a new SQL statement.  But a view is based on a single
SQL statement, not multiple SQL statements.

It's like saying you want to sew a jacket, but you want to sew it in such a
way that people of different sizes will be able to change the size when they
put it on so it will fit them perfectly.  There is no way to sew a single
jacket that will do that.

Why not make a simple SQL*Plus script that uses ACCEPT to get a variable
from a user.  Then the SQL will be modified each time to include the date
the user specifies.

Apparently the reason for wanting to create a view is you want users to then
be able to select against it.  That can be accomplished by using ACCEPT to
get values from the users for those columns, too.

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RE: Need assistance with a 'VIEW'.

2001-09-18 Thread Gogala, Mladen

And you want be able to do it. Views do not prompt, do not execute anything
and do not run marathons. Views are static  views of data. Please, read the 
fine manual.

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 I have been given the nice task of creating a view of some 
 data in our database.
 
 This doesn't seem like a major task, but after 2 days of 
 work, I am stumped.
 
 Given table 'table1'
code1,
code2,
date,
value1,
value2
 
 I need to produce a view showing
code1,
code2,
sum(value1),
sum(value2)
   where date  'user input date'
 
 I have not been able to get the view to prompt for the date 
 to limit the sum by.
 
 Specifics:
   Oracle RDMBS  7.3.4
   Server:  Unix
 
 What else can I say, but I am totally stumped.   HELP!
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Re: Deploying middle-tier on unix.

2001-09-18 Thread Jared . Still



Amar,

I've use OAS on both platforms.

The unix variety is easier to maintain  for the most part.

The only unix specific difficulties I ran into were caused by case
sensitivity.  Many forms were calling other modules with inconsistent
case, and I had to find these and modify them before the forms
could be successfully compiled on unix.

If your programmers have good habits, you shouldn't run into that.

If all they have ever worked on is Windoze, then you will probably
 be doing some error correction before compiling.  ;)

Jared




   
 
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We use 3-tier architecture to run our application, the middle tier being an
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the pros and cons of having my executables kept on unix server which are
then being accessed from a  windows based client.

Most of the links I have visited talk about middle tier being on an NT
machine. I would appreciate any kind of information on this.

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RE: RDA from OWS - anyone used it?

2001-09-18 Thread Orr, Steve

Bruce and List,

 probably nothing that you wouldn't be collecting anyway
Yup, it's pretty lightweight as a database monitoring tool... but I don't
think that was the intent. When you consider everything they've brought
together it makes a decent system documentation tool... especially from a
support perspective. It balls everything up into a zipped tar file which you
can move to a web server or upload to Oracle for analysis. With this info an
OWS dweeb (or other user) can point and click and see a ton of info about
your server configuration and site performance. Since Oracle has made this
available via Metalink should we anticipate that it will become an often
used and sometimes required component of support? They wouldn't call it
Remote Diagnostic AGENT for nothing. Of course there's nothing
conspiratorial here since Oracle has our interests at heart.

Are the Unix/Linux implementations similar to the Windows implementation?
For Unix/Linux the rda.sh script generates HTML with expandable javascript
menus for: 
1) OS Setup with 12 expandable links or sub-menus; 
2) Network, 10 expandable links; 
3) Performance, 3 links (and pretty weak); 
4) Web Server, 8 links; and 
5) RDBMS, 14 links. 

The links point to other files also generated by the rda.sh script and some
of these reports are fairly extensive. I've looked at the scripts
developed by Oracle and I don't like the fact that it stores a DBA password
in an ascii file. Comments in Oracle's code indicate that it is meant to
modular so it can be further built upon. In other words, it sounds like
Oracle is committed to an ongoing development effort for the RDA toolset.

 I also will be interested in other's comments.
Yeah, me too. I guess there hasn't been much feedback on this post because
RDA is so new. Take a look at what's coming down the road fellow DBA's. Of
course they want us to beta test it for them. :-)


Steve Orr


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Steve,

I've used it a couple of times on NT against a test instance.

It seemed to produce some useful information re wait events, tablespace
sizings etc but probably nothing that you wouldn't be collecting anyway.
It does however put them into a nice html report.

Would be useful I imagine for Oracle support to ensure that who they are
talking to can provide them with the information they want.

I also will be interested in other's comments.

Bruce Reardon


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Has anyone implemented and used RDA? (It's a diagnostic tool from OWS.)

It might be semi-cool ;-)  ...Comments?

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Re: Renaming GLOBAL_NAME

2001-09-18 Thread Mario Alberto Ramos Arellano

I tried all the suggestions and the only one that worked was updating the global name 
directly to the table.

Mario Alberto Ramos
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17/09/01 16:35 

Thank you all for your replies. I  bounced the database and still it has
the same problem.

Regards,
Prasad



   

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you need to reboot your database, changing the init.ora parameter to
global_name to false:

SQL select value from v$parameter where name like 'global_name%';

VALUE
--
FALSE

SQL select * from global_name;

GLOBAL_NAME
--
UREGPROD



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I don't think you can do this.  GLOBAL_NAME by definition consists of
the database name and database domain, which defaults to WORLD.

Paul Baumgartel

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  I am trying to rename the global_name from SIMSNT7B.WORLD to
  SIMSNT7B.
 
  I issued the following command to change the global_name.
 
  ALTER DATABASE RENAME GLOBAL_NAME TO SIMSNT7B;
 
  Still it is showing SIMSNT7B.WORLD when I query the global_name view.
  SQL select * from global_name;
 
  GLOBAL_NAME
  --
  SIMSNT7B.WORLD
 
  Values for the following parameters in v$parameter view,
  GLOBAL_NAMES  parameter value is FALSE and DB_DOMAIN parameter value
  is
  NULL.
  We are not using Oracle Names server.  I renamed SQLNET.ORA file in
  network\admin location.
  Init.ora file has global_names set to false.
 
  How do I change to SIMSNT7B?  This database is on Windows NT and it
  is
  8.1.6.
 
  Thanks in advance for your help.
 
  Best regards
  Prasad
 
 
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Sqlplus tunning

2001-09-18 Thread Sinardy

Hi,

I have 2 big tables, ITEM (is about 1 million rows) and RTNITEM (is about
20K rows)

When I do:

SELECT ITEM.no,
 NVL(SUM(ITEM.CUSTSOLD), 0),
 NVL(SUM(RTNITEM.CUSTRTN)

FROM ITEM, RTNITEM

WHERE ITEM.no=RTNITEM.no

GROUP BY ITEM.no;


Time to execute above query is to long.

I tried

CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemsold AS
SELECT no,
 NVL(SUM(custsold, 0)) AS sold
FROM item
GROUP BY no;

CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemrtn AS
SELECT no,
 NVL(SUM(custrtn, 0)) as return
FROM rtnitem
GROUP BY no;

SELECT i.no,
 i.sold
 r.return
FROM proc_view_itemsold, proc_view_itemrtn
WHERE i.no = r.no;

DROP VIEW proc_view_itemsold;
DROP VIEW proc_view_itemrtn;


The result is the same, it took more than 25 minutes.

Do I have to create a temporary tables instead of view to prevent these two
giant tables producing a cardinality product ?
In this situation is that possible using inner query with where clause again
to prevent those giant tables combined?



Thank you,


Sinardy

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RE: Alternatives to roles in procedures?

2001-09-18 Thread Rachel Carmichael


isn't it still simpler to let the schema owner own procedures that access 
tables in that schema, and grant execute on the procedures rather grant SIUD 
on all tables owned by each schema owner? I'd think there would be fewer 
procedures than tables in each schema

From: Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:20:28 -0800

Interesting!  However, if I had shown a real-world example, I think it
would've poked a hole in your excellent idea.  Add schema C (and D and
E) onto this example that schema B also needs to access.

Ain't no way in hell the devs are gonna rewrite all of their code to
accommodate Jeff T's environment, either.

Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm looking at the brute force method,
methinks.  :)

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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um, create the procedures in schema A and grant execute to schema B?
removes the need for direct grants on the tables.


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 Subject: Alternatives to roles in procedures?
 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:30:24 -0800
 
 So, there we are, in 8.1.7 on HP/UX 11.0.  We have several dozen tables 
in
 schema A that need to be accessed from procedures in schema B.  We 
had
 previously been using a role to grant access to these tables but now with
 the procedures, this ain't an option.
 
 Are there any alternatives to granting SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, 
etc
 on each table to schema B?
 
 TIA,
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Re: Compiling package

2001-09-18 Thread Raymond Lee Meng Hong

  Hello guru  


  I need help on this , I got 2 database reside in 2 server , 1 is a AIX
-server , another is a winnt server , 
everything go smooth when I compile my package( which consist of 10
procedure , 10 function inside)in the winnt server , but when I move my
package to another testing server , once I open the package my TOAD slow for
a while ,and further when I compile the whole package ..it look stop for
5-10 minute and refresh back to normal status.

 When I ask my DBA , he compile it straight from sqlplus and under
Enterprise manage console , directly w/o any delay . I ask him to try on my
user name also the same...fast...

 He said it might be my TOAD problem , I try to install again my TOAD..it
still work back the same ? Any idea how can I troubleshoot it ?
 

Best Regard 
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RE: need an 8.0.5 client and an 8.1.7 client on same machine

2001-09-18 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Doug,

I wrote the below without noticing that it was a winframe server.
I haven't used a winframe server before.
So, if it was a normal PC I would do what is below.  I would probably do the
same thing on a winframe server - I would just want to try it on a test
server first.

805 on NT is not multiple-home compliant.
So, you need to install 805 before you install 817 (install them into
separate homes).

So what I would do is:

Backup Oracle configuration files
Do a total remove of Oracle off the client (ie registry, files, icons etc)
Install 8.0.5 (eg into \oracle\product\805)
Install 8.1.7 into its own home (eg into \oracle\product\817)

I would maintain only 1 set of Oracle networking files.
eg create d:\oracle\admin\tns_admin 
Create a system environment variable tns_admin with a value of
d:\oracle\admin\tns_admin

Put sqlnet.ora and tnsnames.ora into d:\oracle\admin\tns_admin

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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I need to get an 8.0.5 client and an 8.1.7 client working on the same
machine.
Currently, the 8.1.7 is the only one installed.  This is an NT
winframe/metaframe server running NT 4.0.  Some apps use the 8.1.7 client
and
some will require the 8.0.5.

Any suggestions before I start the surgery?

Thanks,
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Re: Sqlplus tunning

2001-09-18 Thread ASHRAF SALAYMEH

Try to use Index for big table ITEM
To avoid full table scan.

Create index item_index on item(no);

This will speed the process...

--- Sinardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have 2 big tables, ITEM (is about 1 million rows)
 and RTNITEM (is about
 20K rows)
 
 When I do:
 
 SELECT ITEM.no,
NVL(SUM(ITEM.CUSTSOLD), 0),
NVL(SUM(RTNITEM.CUSTRTN)
 
 FROM ITEM, RTNITEM
 
 WHERE ITEM.no=RTNITEM.no
 
 GROUP BY ITEM.no;
 
 
 Time to execute above query is to long.
 
 I tried
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemsold AS
   SELECT no,
NVL(SUM(custsold, 0)) AS sold
   FROM item
   GROUP BY no;
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemrtn AS
   SELECT no,
NVL(SUM(custrtn, 0)) as return
   FROM rtnitem
   GROUP BY no;
 
 SELECT i.no,
i.sold
r.return
 FROM proc_view_itemsold, proc_view_itemrtn
 WHERE i.no = r.no;
 
 DROP VIEW proc_view_itemsold;
 DROP VIEW proc_view_itemrtn;
 
 
 The result is the same, it took more than 25
 minutes.
 
 Do I have to create a temporary tables instead of
 view to prevent these two
 giant tables producing a cardinality product ?
 In this situation is that possible using inner query
 with where clause again
 to prevent those giant tables combined?
 
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 
 Sinardy
 
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Re: Lots and lots of redo logs

2001-09-18 Thread Paul Drake

Bill Buchan wrote:
 
 Out of curiosity and as a test I scrubbed my 16Mb RAID1 array and set it up
 again with 5 x 50Mb redo groups.  I ran the following script to generate
 lots of redo:
 
 begin
  for i in 1..1500 loop
  insert into test_table values (mod(i,10));
  delete from test_table where anumber = (mod(i+1,10));
  commit;
  end loop;
 end;
 
 ARCHIVELOG mode was on and the archive destination (on another disk) was
 initially empty.
 There were 239 log switches and the test completed in 2 hours 56 minutes.
 
 I then added a further 250 50Mb redo groups, cleared the archive
 destination and ran the test again.  Again it completed in exactly 2 hours
 56 minutes, this time 240 log switches (difference of 1, I guess due to
 whereabouts in the first log it was when the test started).
 
 v$session_wait shows permanent log file parallel write for LGWR while the
 test runs.
 
 Any suggestions why I failed to see any slow down when I (almost) filled
 the disk with redo groups?  (This server wasn't doing anything else and the
 time of the test).  The RAID1 array had a Linux ext2 filesystem on it and I
 had disabled the write cache.
 
 Thanks again,
 - Bill.
 

Bill,

Is there any chance that you had the following:

- dictionary-managed USERS tablespace with small extent size (lots of
recursize SQL)
- RBS, SYSTEM, USERS datafiles on same storage volume
- indexes on test_table, with INDEXES on same storage
- log_buffer at default value of 32K (or some other small value)

It seems likely that the bottleneck was not in the LGWR process.
As others here would likely indicate, what were the other I/O-related
v$system_event waits?

Since I don't see version info, is it possible that you do not have a
dedicated CKPT process?

Paul
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CLOB trigger problem

2001-09-18 Thread Campbell, James

Dear listers,

I am trying to copy an updated CLOB from a table in one database (let's call
it A) to the equivalent table in another database (called B just to be
original).  I have written triggers and procedures to do this (one package
on each database), and I am passing the contents of the CLOB to the remote
update procedure as VARCHAR fields in a PL/SQL table.   

Everything works perfectly well when I run an update against table A.  I am
connecting via TOAD and am logged on to Oracle as the schema owner.  The
contents of the CLOB are retrieved, passed across and used to update the
remote table.

When the client updates the CLOB in table A, however, the select statement
in my package on database A which 'locates' the CLOB, retrieves a CLOB of
zero length.  No exception occurs in the Select statement.  The client's
update succeeds on table A, and my package sends an empty PL/SQL table to
the remote procedure (and the CLOB on the remote table is duly erased). The
client is connecting through an ASP-driven web interface via IIS, which as
far as I can tell is also logging on to Oracle as the schema owner.

Anyone encountered this sort of behaviour before?  I've just about run out
of ideas.  If I can't solve this by direct means I can probably do something
kludgy like launch the remote update as a background process via
DBMS_JOB.SUBMIT, but I'd far rather have it under transactional control.

Oracle version is 8.1.6.3 on both databases.

Can supply contents of triggers etc. if needed. 

Cheers,
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Re: Sqlplus tunning

2001-09-18 Thread Deepender Kr Gupta

try nested query in place of sort join method...

- Original Message -
Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:10 am

 Try to use Index for big table ITEM
 To avoid full table scan.
 
 Create index item_index on item(no);
 
 This will speed the process...
 
 --- Sinardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have 2 big tables, ITEM (is about 1 million rows)
  and RTNITEM (is about
  20K rows)
  
  When I do:
  
  SELECT ITEM.no,
   NVL(SUM(ITEM.CUSTSOLD), 0),
   NVL(SUM(RTNITEM.CUSTRTN)
  
  FROM ITEM, RTNITEM
  
  WHERE ITEM.no=RTNITEM.no
  
  GROUP BY ITEM.no;
  
  
  Time to execute above query is to long.
  
  I tried
  
  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemsold AS
  SELECT no,
   NVL(SUM(custsold, 0)) AS sold
  FROM item
  GROUP BY no;
  
  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemrtn AS
  SELECT no,
   NVL(SUM(custrtn, 0)) as return
  FROM rtnitem
  GROUP BY no;
  
  SELECT i.no,
   i.sold
   r.return
  FROM proc_view_itemsold, proc_view_itemrtn
  WHERE i.no = r.no;
  
  DROP VIEW proc_view_itemsold;
  DROP VIEW proc_view_itemrtn;
  
  
  The result is the same, it took more than 25
  minutes.
  
  Do I have to create a temporary tables instead of
  view to prevent these two
  giant tables producing a cardinality product ?
  In this situation is that possible using inner query
  with where clause again
  to prevent those giant tables combined?
  
  
  
  Thank you,
  
  
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