Processing speed for Images

2002-01-14 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: Processing speed for Images 





Hi,
Background:
We user scanners to scan images of the documents and store it on our NT server. The documents are later shown to the user in data-entry screens for capturing the required information. We make use of *read_image_file* to populate the image item. This works successfully without any errors. In the data entry screen, User captures information from one image and presses commit (f10). The next image is populated automatically and user continues with the data capture.

Issue:
The response time. It takes approximately upto 4-5 seconds to show an image. Our data-entry operators are very fast and they want the image population time to be brought down. We tried this with Java and the response time was very fast, as we were storing the images in memory, in advance. Is it possible to do the same in form builder itself, or any other feature that can improve the processing speed of images in forms?

Image type:
JPG files sized around 50-80k. Stored on the network file server.


rgds
amar
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RE: Any other OCP discount code ? S36 code can no longer be used

2002-01-14 Thread James McCann

Cheers,
  that should save a few pounds. I actually decided to stop  being lazy
and looked it up myself,

Thanks,

JIm

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Hi Jim,

I use OTN20. 20% discount.

Regds,
New Bee
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Hi, could you pass it on to me please,

Thanks,

Jim

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Dear All,

I've found the discount code.

Regds,
New Bee
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Dear Gurus,

The education discount code S36 can no
longer be used to get
20% discount
from the OCP Test. Does anyone know of any
discount code ?
Please advise.
Thanks.

Regds,
New Bee




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TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread Relika Shetty

Hi DBAs,

Not sure, whether this has already been discussed on
list. If so, then please mail me directly instead of
mailing to list.

I just wanted to check how good TOAD software is. I am
evaluating this software for my company.

Has anyone bought it?

Will appreciate quick response.

Thanks in Advance,

Regards,
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dynamic views in 8.1.6

2002-01-14 Thread Oracle DBA

we have added these parameters in the init.ORA file .
query_rewrite_enabled=true
_complex_view_merging=true
_push_join_predicate=true
optimizer_max_permutations=79000
_use_column_stats_for_function=true
_like_with_bind_as_equality=true
_push_join_union_view=true
_ordered_nested_loop=true
_or_expand_nvl_predicate=true

after these changes all the dynamic views created by developers have stopped
working .

our database is running on aix 4.3.3 and its in MTS mode .

Will appreciate quick response.

thanks in advance .

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RE: TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread

Been there, done that, BOUGHT it.

All our DBA's (4) are working with it.

Mind you, this is a tool for DBA. We bought PlSqlDeveloper for the
development stuff.

A very good Swiss army knife for the dba.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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RE: TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread SARKAR, Samir

Well, it is much better than standard SQL*Plusgives u a lot of GUI
options
and other functionalities. For that matter, most of the products of Quest
Software
are quite good..especially their performance monitoring tools.

Samir

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Need SQL*Loader Coding Help

2002-01-14 Thread Ken Janusz

I need some help coding this scenario.  I have multiple records coming in a
delimited flat file.  Some of the records are:

RegNumber
Cnum1
Cnum2
.
.
.
Cnum10

There can be data in 1 to 10 of these fields.

I need to load this into this table.
Trademark_Class_Data
  Registration_Number (FK)
  Class_Code_ID (FK)

An example of the code.
RegNumber - 65304
Cnum1 - 45
Cnum2 - 54
Cnum3 - 100

So, my question is how do I code this so that I create 3 records in this
table as?

Registration_Number Class_Code_ID
65304   45
65304   54
65304   100

I need to take data that is contained in 1 record and load it into 3
records.

Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken Janusz, CPIM 
Database Conversion Lead 
Sufficient Systems, Inc. 
Minneapolis, MN




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Uninstall oracle

2002-01-14 Thread iashraf

As an experiment i tried installing oracle 8 (for NT) on my PC at home
(which  is win2k)it crashed at an early stage( with some OS
error-obviously) How do i uninstall this crashed version? and why does
oracle 8i (for NT) install without a problem?

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RE: OCP discount is avaialable still?

2002-01-14 Thread Tirumala, Surendra

Thanks for the replies. I have checked it again, the 'S36' discount is not
avaialable anymore.
You guys maight have read other thread on the same topic in this list,
someone mentioned about a new discount code, 'OTN20'.
I will try if it works.
 
Thanks,
Suren

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Hi...
 
I think the discount is still available, I am working in IT consultant
company and we are a member of Oracle Program Partner, we get the discount
until 35% for each Modul.
 
Rgds/Jeram

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Awhile ago one of the Developers took a PL/SQL course at the Oracle trainig
center. This fall we received a voucher redeemable for one OCP exam. Valid
until 08/31/2002. It looks like Oracle has realized the cost of OCP hits the
DBA's pocket and not the company's pocket and is offering assistance on the
certification costs. Either way I'll take it to do the upgrade exam.
I wonder if I have to claim the cost on my taxes???
ROR mª¿ªm

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In recent past it was available and code was 'S36' .PLease check Oracle 
education site/OCP section. No OTN membership required.

Regards
Rafiq


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Hi List,

I would like to know if anyone knows whether the OCP discount for otn
memebers is still avaialable?
Have been trying in technet.oracle.com without success.

Thanks,
Surendra
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dbms_stats.gather... (method_opt)

2002-01-14 Thread Walter K

Hi,

Could someone tell me what the HIDDEN columns option
is in the DBMS_STATS.GATHER_SCHEMA_STATS and
DBMS_STATS.GATHER_TABLE_STATS procedures? I don't seem
to find any explanation anywhere about its purpose.

Thanks again.
-w


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Re: RMAN

2002-01-14 Thread Cherie_Machler


Charlie,

The semi-equivalent to RMAN for 7.3.4 databases is EBU.

EBU is somewhat more difficult to set up and use than RMAN.
If possible, upgrade the 7.3.4.5 database.

Cherie Machler
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In addition to the obsolete version, which I'm forced to continue
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Re: Need SQL*Loader Coding Help

2002-01-14 Thread nlzanen1



Hi,


Maybe i'm looking for the easy way out here.

Load into temporary table and populate from there.

If you only have ten Cnum fileds it should be easy to query the
intermediate table for the records you need

select regnumber, cnum1 from table where cnum1 is not null
union
select regnumber, cnum2 from table where cnum2 is not null
union
...

upto ten


Jack




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I need some help coding this scenario.  I have multiple records coming in a
delimited flat file.  Some of the records are:

RegNumber
Cnum1
Cnum2
.
.
.
Cnum10

There can be data in 1 to 10 of these fields.

I need to load this into this table.
Trademark_Class_Data
  Registration_Number (FK)
  Class_Code_ID (FK)

An example of the code.
RegNumber - 65304
Cnum1 - 45
Cnum2 - 54
Cnum3 - 100

So, my question is how do I code this so that I create 3 records in this
table as?

Registration_Number   Class_Code_ID
65304   45
65304   54
65304   100

I need to take data that is contained in 1 record and load it into 3
records.

Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken Janusz, CPIM
Database Conversion Lead
Sufficient Systems, Inc.
Minneapolis, MN




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Socket directory under solaris

2002-01-14 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: Socket directory under solaris





Under HP-UX, NET8 sets up a directory
called /tmp/.oracle and creats a number of 
sockets there.


Does Oracle have a similar directory containing
sockets under solaris? Where?
(It does not appear to be /tmp).



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new to DBA

2002-01-14 Thread Production

Hi dear all

A  few days ago I was surprised by my IT manager who has offered to me
to administer local Sun box with Oracle 8i.

I  have  a  near-deep  experience  with  Solaris system administration
(about  4  year)  but  I  have  doubts  regarding  administration  of
Oracle+Solaris.

*** (hurray, this is the question section!) ***

From what I must to start to deeping into DBA business? Is it enough -
careful reading of Oracle documentation? I really confused ;-[

***

thank you!

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Re: TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread Jason Rowski

Hi Relika,

I have used Toad. Toad is an excellent replacement for
SQL*Plus and has a good PL/SQL development
environment.

Thanks
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UTF8 and Win2K

2002-01-14 Thread F Pettinato

Folks,
I am starting a new project today and the client is using 8.1.7 on a
standalone Win2K server. They had a DBA set up the server and install the
software.
Now when they run any query, the server locks up. I am not on-site yet, so I
can't give any further details yet, but has anyone ever heard of anything
like this?

I am not even sure that the UTF8 character set is involved, but I thought I
would ask.

Thanks,
Frank

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Re: Need SQL*Loader Coding Help

2002-01-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael

you have got to read the utilities manual -- there are case studies in
there with sample code to do what you need

--- Ken Janusz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 delimited flat file.  Some of the records are:
 
 RegNumber
 Cnum1
 Cnum2
 .
 .
 .
 Cnum10
 
 There can be data in 1 to 10 of these fields.
 
 I need to load this into this table.
 Trademark_Class_Data
   Registration_Number (FK)
   Class_Code_ID (FK)
 
 An example of the code.
 RegNumber - 65304
 Cnum1 - 45
 Cnum2 - 54
 Cnum3 - 100
 
 So, my question is how do I code this so that I create 3 records in
 this
 table as?
 
 Registration_Number   Class_Code_ID
 65304 45
 65304 54
 65304 100
 
 I need to take data that is contained in 1 record and load it into 3
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 Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.
 
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RE: Oracle Enterprise Manager

2002-01-14 Thread SRAJENDRAN

I have tried, but they show a status of pending. I am unable to de-register
from OEM against this node.

Srini 

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Have you cleared out all registered events, jobs, and alerts against
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Hi:
I am running into this problem with OEM while trying to delete a node
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may be corrupted.  I have gone through a few postings on Metalink and
implemented the suggestions there such as  removing .q files in agent
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Re: The OCP bar is being raised

2002-01-14 Thread bill thater

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additional tests to
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when I took those
upgrades. so what does that tell you? 


tells me that you are either twice lucky or the
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go for the goddess, the lady is wyy smart.  trust me in this.;-)


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RE: Data warehousing Resources

2002-01-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Take a look at Ralph Kimball's books.

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Hi,

try
http://www.stewartmc.com/oracle
http://www.dwinfocenter.org/

oli


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RE: new to DBA

2002-01-14 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

To install... release notes, Getting Started guide.

Then, Oracle Concepts manual and Database Administration manual.

Perhaps Oracle Press DBA 101 book.

After that, get a membership card for your local bookstore.  Get used to
purchasing books that sell for US$60 or more each...  Switch your meal plan
to macaroni and cheese.

Regards,
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Hi dear all

A  few days ago I was surprised by my IT manager who has offered to me
to administer local Sun box with Oracle 8i.

I  have  a  near-deep  experience  with  Solaris system administration
(about  4  year)  but  I  have  doubts  regarding  administration  of
Oracle+Solaris.

*** (hurray, this is the question section!) ***

From what I must to start to deeping into DBA business? Is it enough -
careful reading of Oracle documentation? I really confused ;-[

***

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Re: How to prevent Oracle 9i for Windows from starting?

2002-01-14 Thread Casey Jordan


Use the Oracle Admin Assistant for Windows NT.  It will make all the
necessary changes to the registry.



   

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Hi,


How can I prevent Oracle 9i (for Windows) to start automatically at Windows
startup?

I want Oracle to start _only_ when I want to ( as the Oracle under Linux).


Thank you in advance




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Re: new to DBA

2002-01-14 Thread Igor Neyman

Get yourself a test box and play with it while RTFMing.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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 Hi dear all
 
 A  few days ago I was surprised by my IT manager who has offered to me
 to administer local Sun box with Oracle 8i.
 
 I  have  a  near-deep  experience  with  Solaris system administration
 (about  4  year)  but  I  have  doubts  regarding  administration  of
 Oracle+Solaris.
 
 *** (hurray, this is the question section!) ***
 
 From what I must to start to deeping into DBA business? Is it enough -
 careful reading of Oracle documentation? I really confused ;-[
 
 ***
 
 thank you!
 
 Andy
 
 
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RE: UTF8 and Win2K

2002-01-14 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Obviously you need more details on the lock-up part.  But I am curious as
to why you think UTF8 would be part of the lock-up issue??

TIA

Chris

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Folks,
I am starting a new project today and the client is using 8.1.7 on a
standalone Win2K server. They had a DBA set up the server and install the
software.
Now when they run any query, the server locks up. I am not on-site yet, so I
can't give any further details yet, but has anyone ever heard of anything
like this?

I am not even sure that the UTF8 character set is involved, but I thought I
would ask.

Thanks,
Frank

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RE: new to DBA

2002-01-14 Thread Kimberly Smith

The Oracle documentation is a good thing to read.  I would start with
the concepts manual.  However, I recommend going out and purchasing a
third party book geared towards a new DBA.  I heard rumours that Oracle DBA
101
from Oracle Press is a good book but I have not read it myself.  I am just
going by the half a million recommendations for the book
I would also get a book on backup and recover.  Again, I would go with the
Oracle Press copy.  I would buy that one, even if you don't have time to
read
it yet, as its pretty easy to follow if you do need to recover a database.

I would also try and talk management into sending you on an Oracle course.

Best of luck.  If you are a solid Unix administrator you should do fine
as a DBA.  Its pretty much the same mentality.

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Hi dear all

A  few days ago I was surprised by my IT manager who has offered to me
to administer local Sun box with Oracle 8i.

I  have  a  near-deep  experience  with  Solaris system administration
(about  4  year)  but  I  have  doubts  regarding  administration  of
Oracle+Solaris.

*** (hurray, this is the question section!) ***

From what I must to start to deeping into DBA business? Is it enough -
careful reading of Oracle documentation? I really confused ;-[

***

thank you!

Andy


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Using procedures instead of coding update/insert SQL...huh?

2002-01-14 Thread Grabowy, Chris

I just joined a new Oracle/Java project using Tomcat app server.  On this
project they decided to create an update procedure and insert procedure for
every table.  This procedure is then called in the Java code with the
appropriate parameters passed, instead of simply coding the UPDATE or INSERT
SQL directly in Java.  

Does anyone else take this approach?  I'm trying to understand the pros vs
cons of this approach.  

TIA!!!

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RE: TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread Kimberly Smith

We use it.  I really like it.  I also got it purchased for the developers.
Small footprint, reasonably priced, new features added all the time, not
a lot of bugs.

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Hi DBAs,

Not sure, whether this has already been discussed on
list. If so, then please mail me directly instead of
mailing to list.

I just wanted to check how good TOAD software is. I am
evaluating this software for my company.

Has anyone bought it?

Will appreciate quick response.

Thanks in Advance,

Regards,
RS.

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buffer writes vs. archived logs generation

2002-01-14 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

FYI,

I just compared audit trail data for buffer writes against the number of
archived logs generated per day.

Although there appears to be a vague correspondence between the two, it is
not always the case.

I would have thought that the relationship would have been more direct.

Would anyone know why some buffer writes might not get written through redo
logs?

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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Re: new to DBA

2002-01-14 Thread Dwayne Cox

Andy,

One addition to Patrice's steps:
If you really want to be a good DBA, forget sleep or a social life for at 
least a year, maybe longer depending on your goals.

Oh, and have fun!

-D-

On Monday 14 January 2002 10:10 am, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
 To install... release notes, Getting Started guide.

 Then, Oracle Concepts manual and Database Administration manual.

 Perhaps Oracle Press DBA 101 book.

 After that, get a membership card for your local bookstore.  Get used to
 purchasing books that sell for US$60 or more each...  Switch your meal plan
 to macaroni and cheese.

 Regards,
 Patrice Boivin
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RE: new to DBA

2002-01-14 Thread Orr, Steve

I would insist that your boss send you to Oracle training. If they'll pay 
for training, travel, and your salary while you are in training then that's
a good measure of their support. You should also get commitment for annual
trips to the IOUG conference. Is your employer willing to support you in 
your Oracle DBA education? If they are not willing to give this level of 
commitment then why expend the energy to become self-taught? The answer to
that last question is up to you.



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To install... release notes, Getting Started guide.

Then, Oracle Concepts manual and Database Administration manual.

Perhaps Oracle Press DBA 101 book.

After that, get a membership card for your local bookstore.  Get used to
purchasing books that sell for US$60 or more each...  Switch your meal plan
to macaroni and cheese.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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Subject:new to DBA

Hi dear all

A  few days ago I was surprised by my IT manager who has offered to me
to administer local Sun box with Oracle 8i.

I  have  a  near-deep  experience  with  Solaris system administration
(about  4  year)  but  I  have  doubts  regarding  administration  of
Oracle+Solaris.

*** (hurray, this is the question section!) ***

From what I must to start to deeping into DBA business? Is it enough -
careful reading of Oracle documentation? I really confused ;-[

***

thank you!

Andy


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Re: RMAN

2002-01-14 Thread Ruth Gramolini

There was it's predecessor, EBU, but I have never used it.  HTH, Ruth
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Re: Exporting thru a pipe

2002-01-14 Thread Ruth Gramolini

The script is on the Lazy DBA website, but I have been having trouble with
it.  Look on Metalink for ways to do this.

Ruth
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  I know someone had the script because I've read it here, but at the
 time it
  was on little interest since an export did not take that much space.
Well
 times

 this is from Metalink:

 ==
 o How do you create a compressed export file?


 If you have calculated the size of the file your export will produce and
 it is too large to fit onto disk, you may want to consider producing a
 compressed export file as an alternative to exporting directly to tape.

 Please note, this method should be thoroughly tested before being
 implemented.

 - To create a compressed export file:

 1. Create a unix named pipe :

 os mknod /tmp/exp_pipe p

 2. Start compress in the background reading in from the named
pipe,
writing out to 'export.dmp.Z' :

 os compress  /tmp/exp_pipe  export.dmp.Z 

 3. Start the export, specifying the named pipe as the output file
:

 os exp file=/tmp/exp_pipe other options
 ==


 hth,

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RE: Using procedures instead of coding update/insert SQL...huh?

2002-01-14 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Chris,

I personally think this is the best approach.  Think of the application
task:  

1). Is it easier to perform Database Processing within PL/SQL than within
Java?  PL/SQL is a very strong development tool.  Code development and
maintenance-wise, I think it is much easier to do all the work in PL/SQL
rather than in Java.
2). DB Tuning wise, this forces the application to always use bind variables
- a very good thing.
3).  Finally, it forces an application model to work in an n-tier model
where Java is doing the presentation (making pretty pictures  interfacing
with the db), and the database is doing what it does best - process the data
within the db engine.  Remember, of all the computers in the mix, the db
server is usually the strongest machine of the bunch - why not take
advantage of that power and make it do the db work.

Just my 2 cents.

Tom Mercadante
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I just joined a new Oracle/Java project using Tomcat app server.  On this
project they decided to create an update procedure and insert procedure for
every table.  This procedure is then called in the Java code with the
appropriate parameters passed, instead of simply coding the UPDATE or INSERT
SQL directly in Java.  

Does anyone else take this approach?  I'm trying to understand the pros vs
cons of this approach.  

TIA!!!

Chris
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Re: Using procedures instead of coding update/insert SQL...huh?

2002-01-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael

We used it at a former site. The idea is, this makes the JAVA code
totally reusable if you end up changing database servers. All you would
have to do is change the underlying insert and update procedures and
recompile the application code.

I can see a use for it even if you aren't changing databases If you
use a standard routine, then the SQL statements will always be
identical,and you don't have to worry about shared pool problems

rachel
--- Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just joined a new Oracle/Java project using Tomcat app server.  On
 this
 project they decided to create an update procedure and insert
 procedure for
 every table.  This procedure is then called in the Java code with the
 appropriate parameters passed, instead of simply coding the UPDATE or
 INSERT
 SQL directly in Java.  
 
 Does anyone else take this approach?  I'm trying to understand the
 pros vs
 cons of this approach.  
 
 TIA!!!
 
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RE: Using procedures instead of coding update/insert SQL...huh?

2002-01-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

It makes absolute sense to use this encapsulated approach, because you don't
have to keep changing your code for DML every time table structure changes,
plus this way you guarantee that everyone will use the same statement
promoting its reuse in the SGA.

Oracle designer likes to call this approach TAPI (Table API).

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RE: Exporting thru a pipe

2002-01-14 Thread Smith, Ron L.

One thing I have found is that the pipe can get messed up if anything goes
wrong with the import or export.  I always recreate the pipe before each run
to make sure it is clean. (pipe cleaner?)

Ron


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The script is on the Lazy DBA website, but I have been having trouble with
it.  Look on Metalink for ways to do this.

Ruth
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 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 23:20


 
  I know someone had the script because I've read it here, but at the
 time it
  was on little interest since an export did not take that much space.
Well
 times

 this is from Metalink:

 ==
 o How do you create a compressed export file?


 If you have calculated the size of the file your export will produce and
 it is too large to fit onto disk, you may want to consider producing a
 compressed export file as an alternative to exporting directly to tape.

 Please note, this method should be thoroughly tested before being
 implemented.

 - To create a compressed export file:

 1. Create a unix named pipe :

 os mknod /tmp/exp_pipe p

 2. Start compress in the background reading in from the named
pipe,
writing out to 'export.dmp.Z' :

 os compress  /tmp/exp_pipe  export.dmp.Z 

 3. Start the export, specifying the named pipe as the output file
:

 os exp file=/tmp/exp_pipe other options
 ==


 hth,

 Marin

 
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RE: Uninstall oracle

2002-01-14 Thread

hkey_local_machine - system - currentcontrolset - services 
take a look on ALL the controlsets.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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 Perhaps because Oracle 8.0.x is not supported on Win2k.
 
 Assuming you have no valid Oracle files on the system, to deinstall you 
 will need to do the following
 
 1.  If any oracle services were created, make sure they are shut down
 2. Using Oracle explorer of similar tool delete the entire directory 
 pointed to by oracle_home
 3. Using Oracle explorer or similar tool delete the entire directory 
 c:\program files\oracle and subdirectories
 
 4. Using regedit or regedt32 remove the entire key
 hkey_local_machine - software - Oracle
 
 5.  Remove all services that are associated with oracle (if any).  This 
 can be done using the resource kit utility
 delsrv  or by using regedit or regedt32 to find and remove the services. 
  If using regedit you will be going to
 the hkey_local_machine - system - currentcontrolset - services  and 
 remove the oracle services.
 
 There may be still be a few files floating around on the c: drive but 
 this should be enough to let you reinstall Oracle8i.
 
 John
 
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 As an experiment i tried installing oracle 8 (for NT) on my PC at home
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 error-obviously) How do i uninstall this crashed version? and why does
 oracle 8i (for NT) install without a problem?
 
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Re[2]: new to DBA

2002-01-14 Thread Production

DC Andy,

DC One addition to Patrice's steps:
DC If you really want to be a good DBA, forget sleep or a social life for at 
DC least a year, maybe longer depending on your goals.

DC Oh, and have fun!

Thanks, Dwayne and everyone ;-)

So : Five steps to become Oracle DBA

1. Read Oracle documentation.
2. Read specific third-party books.
3. Change a meal plan.
4. Change a social life  etc.
5. Get out the Allergy from my manager and local bookstore seller.


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Database sizing estimates in Designer 6i

2002-01-14 Thread Cherie_Machler


I'm trying to generate some table sizing estimates for a new database using
Des/6i.

Within the Repository Object Navigator, I've entered initial and final row
estimates in the Table Definitions section.

I have tried to run the report generator that runs Database Table and Index
Sizing Report from Repository Reports
from Tools Pull-down menu.   It runs but shows no tables.   The tables are
defined in the Table Definitions section of the RON but I'm not sure if
they need to be defined somewhere else.

I can't find anything in the on-line documentation that shows how to do
this within Designer.   Can anyone give me the big picture on what needs to
be set up/configured in order to run this report successfully.

Perhaps I have to have the tables defined within the database in RON in
order to get the report to show the sizing.

Thanks for any light shed or for pointing me to adequate documentation.

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network

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RE: Database sizing estimates in Designer 6i

2002-01-14 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Hi Cherie,

I ran the report and my tables were listed just fine.

Have you implemented the tables within a database using either the Ron or
Design Editor?  Try that (assigning them to a tablespace, assigning storage
clauses, etc) and try and run the report again.

Hope this helps

Tom Mercadante
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I'm trying to generate some table sizing estimates for a new database using
Des/6i.

Within the Repository Object Navigator, I've entered initial and final row
estimates in the Table Definitions section.

I have tried to run the report generator that runs Database Table and Index
Sizing Report from Repository Reports
from Tools Pull-down menu.   It runs but shows no tables.   The tables are
defined in the Table Definitions section of the RON but I'm not sure if
they need to be defined somewhere else.

I can't find anything in the on-line documentation that shows how to do
this within Designer.   Can anyone give me the big picture on what needs to
be set up/configured in order to run this report successfully.

Perhaps I have to have the tables defined within the database in RON in
order to get the report to show the sizing.

Thanks for any light shed or for pointing me to adequate documentation.

Cherie Machler
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Re: Access to Oracle migration

2002-01-14 Thread Jared . Still



Somewhere at otn.oracle.com is an Access migration kit for Oracle.

It's been awhile since I've looked at it, but it's still there.

If you need to have several LONG types in a table, you will need
to use BLOB or CLOB instead of a LONG.

You don't really want to use  a LONG datatype anyway, as the LOB
is much more flexible.

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Hi List,

I have a small Access database which needs to be migrated to Oracle. I can
use ODBC to convert the data from Access to Oracle. However I encountered
the following constraints.

1. Access's MEMO datatype will be converted to Oracle's LONG. Oracle allows
only one column with LONG in each table. How about if I have multiple
columns with MEMO in the Access database?

2. ODBC does not allow me to pre-create the table in Oracle and then export
the data. Otherwise it will complain that the table already exists.

Does anybody on the list know if there is any better way or utilities to
convert from Access to Oracle?

Thanks,

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Virtual Private Databases

2002-01-14 Thread gnorwell

I've read several articles about this aspect of Oracle 8i. However, the 8i database I would like to implement it on is running Standard Edition, not Enterprise Edition.

I have information comparing 8i SE vs EE features and VPD was listed as only available if you are running EE. When I poked around the database it appears that the DBMS_RLS package is installed and available. Before I try testing this on a happy production server, can someone confirm whether or not I can implement VPD on Standard Edition?


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Re: tablespace default maxextents

2002-01-14 Thread mitchell

Hi Gurus.

Oracle  has tablespace maxextents and table or index maxextents. Which one
oracle depend on?

thanks
Mitchell

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RE: Using procedures instead of coding update/insert SQL...huh?

2002-01-14 Thread Orr, Steve

DITTO THAT!!!

You can also use PL/SQL for selects, not just inserts, updates and deletes.
You do this by having the PL/SQL return a reference cursor and then the Java
code takes it from there to display everything via jsp or whatever. I was
DBA where we did this on a Java/Oracle development project. We had tons of
queries and NO EMBEDDED SQL in the Java code. I could change (tune) the SQL
queries in the PL/SQL packages without making any changes to the Java source
code. We also used some native dynamic SQL for the queries with lot's of
user interface driven permutations on the WHERE clause. This approach
requires duhvelopers to work closely with DBAs/database dweebs and...
depending on your demeanor, you can count this as a pro or a con. ;-)


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Chris,

I personally think this is the best approach.  Think of the application
task:  

1). Is it easier to perform Database Processing within PL/SQL than within
Java?  PL/SQL is a very strong development tool.  Code development and
maintenance-wise, I think it is much easier to do all the work in PL/SQL
rather than in Java.
2). DB Tuning wise, this forces the application to always use bind variables
- a very good thing.
3).  Finally, it forces an application model to work in an n-tier model
where Java is doing the presentation (making pretty pictures  interfacing
with the db), and the database is doing what it does best - process the data
within the db engine.  Remember, of all the computers in the mix, the db
server is usually the strongest machine of the bunch - why not take
advantage of that power and make it do the db work.

Just my 2 cents.

Tom Mercadante
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I just joined a new Oracle/Java project using Tomcat app server.  On this
project they decided to create an update procedure and insert procedure for
every table.  This procedure is then called in the Java code with the
appropriate parameters passed, instead of simply coding the UPDATE or INSERT
SQL directly in Java.  

Does anyone else take this approach?  I'm trying to understand the pros vs
cons of this approach.  

TIA!!!

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Re: dynamic views in 8.1.6

2002-01-14 Thread Jared . Still



1.  Did you really change all of those 'undocumented' parameters at once?

That is *not* a good idea.  You should change them one
at a time and determine the effects of each, unless you are
already familiar with using them.

You should comment all but one out and restart your database.

2.  What   do you mean by 'dynamic views'?

3.  What does 'stopped working' mean?
Any error messages?
Incorrect data?

etc... ?

Also, if possible, upgrade to  8.1.7.(current patch level here) and some of
these undocs either go away or become documented.

Jared



   
 
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we have added these parameters in the init.ORA file .
query_rewrite_enabled=true
_complex_view_merging=true
_push_join_predicate=true
optimizer_max_permutations=79000
_use_column_stats_for_function=true
_like_with_bind_as_equality=true
_push_join_union_view=true
_ordered_nested_loop=true
_or_expand_nvl_predicate=true

after these changes all the dynamic views created by developers have
stopped
working .

our database is running on aix 4.3.3 and its in MTS mode .

Will appreciate quick response.

thanks in advance .

brajesh jaiswal






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Re: Virtual Private Databases

2002-01-14 Thread Jared . Still


I'm hoping you can tell us.  :)

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I have information comparing 8i SE vs EE features and VPD was listed as
only available if you are running EE. When I poked around the database it
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Regards,

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RE: Socket directory under solaris

2002-01-14 Thread Aponte, Tony
Title: Socket directory under solaris



Try 
/ver/tmp/.oracle

Tony 
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  Socket directory under solaris
  Under HP-UX, NET8 sets up a directory called /tmp/.oracle and creats a number of sockets there. 
  Does Oracle have a similar directory containing 
  sockets under solaris? Where? (It 
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RE: tablespace default maxextents

2002-01-14 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

Hello,

Read up on the hierarchy rules and you will see that if no specific
table/index parameters are set, then they default to the tablespace's
parameters.

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
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Hi Gurus.

Oracle  has tablespace maxextents and table or index maxextents. Which one
oracle depend on?

thanks
Mitchell

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RE: tablespace default maxextents

2002-01-14 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI

Mitchell,

When creating a new table or index, Oracle uses the tablespace's default
maxextents setting unless you specify a different one in the table or
index creation storage clause. After that, Oracle depends on the each
table's or index's maxextents for the actual number of extents.

Jerry Whittle
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RE: Virtual Private Databases

2002-01-14 Thread Jesse, Rich

Listen to yourself:  *testing* on a happy *production* server.

Add 1 cup of milk.  Shake well.  Makes enough Chaos for 100-200 users.

Just MHO,
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I've read several articles about this aspect of Oracle 8i. However, the 8i
database I would like to implement it on is running Standard Edition, not
Enterprise Edition. 

I have information comparing 8i SE vs EE features and VPD was listed as only
available if you are running EE. When I poked around the database it appears
that the DBMS_RLS package is installed and available. Before I try testing
this on a happy production server, can someone confirm whether or not I can
implement VPD on Standard Edition? 


Regards,

Gary Norwell

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RE: Access to Oracle migration

2002-01-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Michael - This was discussed in detail recently on this list. Basically,
what I recall is:
- The key is to define the tables in Oracle first, then import your
Access data. You don't want to let Access define the tables, and I think you
are learning this.
- How large are the Memo fields? Can you store them in a varchar2
column? Can you break them into multiple varchar2 columns, like maybe they
have some internal structure? If the latter, you could create a child table
to store each. Just a wild thought.
- If you are just doing a few tables, and your posting uses the word
small, then this should work fine. If you had many tables, someone
mentioned an Oracle migration tool provided by Oracle that worked well.
Dennis Williams
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Hi List,

I have a small Access database which needs to be migrated to Oracle. I can
use ODBC to convert the data from Access to Oracle. However I encountered
the following constraints.

1. Access's MEMO datatype will be converted to Oracle's LONG. Oracle allows
only one column with LONG in each table. How about if I have multiple
columns with MEMO in the Access database?

2. ODBC does not allow me to pre-create the table in Oracle and then export
the data. Otherwise it will complain that the table already exists.

Does anybody on the list know if there is any better way or utilities to
convert from Access to Oracle?

Thanks,

Michael 



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RE: dynamic views in 8.1.6

2002-01-14 Thread Khedr, Waleed

I'm happy that something stopped working!

Do you really enjoy changing the undocumented parameters?

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we have added these parameters in the init.ORA file .
query_rewrite_enabled=true
_complex_view_merging=true
_push_join_predicate=true
optimizer_max_permutations=79000
_use_column_stats_for_function=true
_like_with_bind_as_equality=true
_push_join_union_view=true
_ordered_nested_loop=true
_or_expand_nvl_predicate=true

after these changes all the dynamic views created by developers have stopped
working .

our database is running on aix 4.3.3 and its in MTS mode .

Will appreciate quick response.

thanks in advance .

brajesh jaiswal






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Re: tablespace default maxextents

2002-01-14 Thread Igor Neyman

'tablespace maxextents' is used as a default, when you don't explicitly
specify 'table or index maxextents'.

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Re: tablespace default maxextents

2002-01-14 Thread orantdba

Hi Mitchell,

The maxextents on the tablespace are applied as defaults to tables or 
indexes that are created without an explicit maxextents value.  An 
explicit maxextents clause on the table or index level
will override the tablespace clause.

Hope this helps,
John

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Hi Gurus.

Oracle  has tablespace maxextents and table or index maxextents. Which one
oracle depend on?

thanks
Mitchell



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RE: tablespace default maxextents

2002-01-14 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Oracle doesn't depend on maxextents. Oracle depends on the 
sale of their software. As for the maxextents, it depends:
If maxextents is specified for the table, then the table level definition
will be used. If, not the tablespace level default will be used.
I believe that that is explained in the oracle documentation and
that you should read the fine manuals.

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Hi Gurus.

Oracle  has tablespace maxextents and table or index maxextents. Which one
oracle depend on?

thanks
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NT questions

2002-01-14 Thread Joan Hsieh

Hi dear Listers,

I have 2 NT questions like to ask;

1.On unix, I use the following script to change the name of alert file.
How to change it in the same way on NT?

for log_file in $(find $ORACLE_BASE/admin -name alert_FMRPT.log | grep
-v alert_FMRPT_.*.log)
do
   newfile=$(echo $log_file | sed s/\.log$/_$dt.log/)
   echo moving alert logs: $log_file $newfile
   mv $log_file $newfile

2. I remember read somewhere about oracle version, for example,
8.1.7.2.x , the last digit is OS related informantion. Is that true? Our
nt boxes, some instance show it is 8.1.7.2.1, some shows 8.1.7.2.6. I'd
like to make all the same version. Where I can get those patch
information? (On unix, all our instances are 8.1.7.2.0, we installed and
patched. Not on NT. kind of out of control at beginning)

Thanks in advance, 

Joan
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Re: new to DBA

2002-01-14 Thread Charlie Mengler

Been there, Burned out!
Gee, lucky you.
You get to do two full time jobs at your current salary.

If you are bored  are looking for new things to do  learn,
then accept the offer. 

If you are fully loaded or overloaded,
then ask which tasks you get to hand off to sombody else.

HTH   YMMV
HAND!
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Production wrote:
 
 Hi dear all
 
 A  few days ago I was surprised by my IT manager who has offered to me
 to administer local Sun box with Oracle 8i.
 
 I  have  a  near-deep  experience  with  Solaris system administration
 (about  4  year)  but  I  have  doubts  regarding  administration  of
 Oracle+Solaris.
 
 *** (hurray, this is the question section!) ***
 
 From what I must to start to deeping into DBA business? Is it enough -
 careful reading of Oracle documentation? I really confused ;-[
 
 ***
 
 thank you!
 
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problem with 9i import

2002-01-14 Thread New2orcl

Hi,
I have recently installed 9i on my computer and wanted to import my exdat.dmp 
file from my Oracel 8i. I got nowhere with the enterprise manager console so 
after trying with no success through Oracle support I decided to try doing 
the import from a command prompt. Well, I must have done something wrong 
because it imported the file but it put it in the  OEM database instead of 
the ORCL and so my developer 6.0 does not have access to any of the tables or 
data that I imported. Does anyone know the correct sintax to do the import 
that I want to do and also how do I get it out of the OEM now? Have I totally 
messed everything up?
Thanks
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DBA Experiences with Oracle and RAID 0+1

2002-01-14 Thread Jon Behnke

We are in the process of setting up a SAN using RAID 0+1 for our database.
In our current environment, we are able to separate our tables, indexes,
rollback segments, and archive logs on different disks.  On the SAN we would
have six 73 gig disks on RAID 0+1 for a total of about 210 Gig of usable
space (3 disks worth of space). 

Some white papers that I have read suggest attempting to separate the data,
indexes, and rollback segments on separate RAID volumes, and others simply
suggest that the performance boost of striping will supercede the separation
of these items.

Can anyone offer any comments or suggestions?

Jon Behnke
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Re: dynamic views in 8.1.6

2002-01-14 Thread Stephane Faroult

Oracle DBA wrote:
 
 we have added these parameters in the init.ORA file .
 query_rewrite_enabled=true
 _complex_view_merging=true
 _push_join_predicate=true
 optimizer_max_permutations=79000
 _use_column_stats_for_function=true
 _like_with_bind_as_equality=true
 _push_join_union_view=true
 _ordered_nested_loop=true
 _or_expand_nvl_predicate=true
 
 after these changes all the dynamic views created by developers have stopped
 working .
 
 our database is running on aix 4.3.3 and its in MTS mode .
 
 Will appreciate quick response.
 
 thanks in advance .
 
 brajesh jaiswal
 

_stop_messing_with_undocumented_parameters=TRUE

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Re: Virtual Private Databases

2002-01-14 Thread gnorwell

Sometimes, when you aren't sure if it will work, someone will say Let's try it and see what happens ... . Every once in awhile, you hit one of those We probably shouldn't have tried that on a production system   landslides.


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I'm hoping you can tell us. :)

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Re: dbms_stats.gather... (method_opt)

2002-01-14 Thread Stephane Faroult

Walter K wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Could someone tell me what the HIDDEN columns option
 is in the DBMS_STATS.GATHER_SCHEMA_STATS and
 DBMS_STATS.GATHER_TABLE_STATS procedures? I don't seem
 to find any explanation anywhere about its purpose.
 
 Thanks again.
 -w
 

I would guess that 'hidden' columns may more or less have to do with the
object option, which seems (if sys.col$ is to be believed) to sometimes
present as a single aggregated column what is indeed traditional 'split'
columns. Another possibility might be function-based indexes. They
create dummy columns in dba_ind_columns, those dummy (and therefore
hidden) columns might be used when gathering stats. Just wild ideas.
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Re: problem with 9i import

2002-01-14 Thread orantdba

HI New2orcl,

My guess is that your $oracle_sid was set to point to oem when you did 
the import with is why it imported into that database.  The only way to 
get it out is to log on to the oem database and drop each table.

To get it into the correct database set the oracle_sid and then do your 
import.

Good luck,
John

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Hi,
I have recently installed 9i on my computer and wanted to import my exdat.dmp 
file from my Oracel 8i. I got nowhere with the enterprise manager console so 
after trying with no success through Oracle support I decided to try doing 
the import from a command prompt. Well, I must have done something wrong 
because it imported the file but it put it in the  OEM database instead of 
the ORCL and so my developer 6.0 does not have access to any of the tables or 
data that I imported. Does anyone know the correct sintax to do the import 
that I want to do and also how do I get it out of the OEM now? Have I totally 
messed everything up?
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RE: dynamic views in 8.1.6

2002-01-14 Thread Todd Carlson

LOL!!!

Todd


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Oracle DBA wrote:
 
 we have added these parameters in the init.ORA file .
 query_rewrite_enabled=true
 _complex_view_merging=true
 _push_join_predicate=true
 optimizer_max_permutations=79000
 _use_column_stats_for_function=true
 _like_with_bind_as_equality=true
 _push_join_union_view=true
 _ordered_nested_loop=true
 _or_expand_nvl_predicate=true
 
 after these changes all the dynamic views created by developers have
stopped
 working .
 
 our database is running on aix 4.3.3 and its in MTS mode .
 
 Will appreciate quick response.
 
 thanks in advance .
 
 brajesh jaiswal
 

_stop_messing_with_undocumented_parameters=TRUE

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Re: NT questions

2002-01-14 Thread Peter Gram

Hi Joan


A1) ?


A2) You are right about that the last digit is OS patches, you can get 
the patches from Metalink (http://metalink.oracle.com).

Joan Hsieh wrote:

Hi dear Listers,

I have 2 NT questions like to ask;

1.On unix, I use the following script to change the name of alert file.
How to change it in the same way on NT?

for log_file in $(find $ORACLE_BASE/admin -name alert_FMRPT.log | grep
-v alert_FMRPT_.*.log)
do
   newfile=$(echo $log_file | sed s/\.log$/_$dt.log/)
   echo moving alert logs: $log_file $newfile
   mv $log_file $newfile

2. I remember read somewhere about oracle version, for example,
8.1.7.2.x , the last digit is OS related informantion. Is that true? Our
nt boxes, some instance show it is 8.1.7.2.1, some shows 8.1.7.2.6. I'd
like to make all the same version. Where I can get those patch
information? (On unix, all our instances are 8.1.7.2.0, we installed and
patched. Not on NT. kind of out of control at beginning)

Thanks in advance, 

Joan


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RE: TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread schmoldt

TOAD is the one Oracle tool I would refuse to give up.  We used to use
SQL*Navigator, and I much prefer TOAD.  It has a well-thought-out interface,
and has useful features for both DBA and Developer.  All of our developers
and DBAs use it.

The support from Toadman and his development group is outstanding.  There is
a very active mail list (http://www.egroups.com/list/toad) and an active
beta program open to ALL registered TOAD owners.

I can't recommend TOAD highly enough.

Dave

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 mailing to list.
 
 I just wanted to check how good TOAD software is. I am
 evaluating this software for my company.
 
 Has anyone bought it?
 
 Will appreciate quick response.
 
 Thanks in Advance,
 
 Regards,
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RE: Virtual Private Databases

2002-01-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Gary - I don't have that much experience with SE vs. EE, but my experience
has been that Oracle tends to provide many features, regardless of your
licensing. Think of it as the honor system. The problem for you is that if
you use features that your license does not entitle you to, then some day
your Oracle rep. discovers it and gently suggests a change in your license
policy. To your boss. So, in the words of Clint Eastwood: Do you feel
lucky, punk? Well do you?.
Personally, I think the best policy is to check your licensing policy
carefully before using a feature.
Dennis Williams 
DBA 
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I've read several articles about this aspect of Oracle 8i. However, the 8i
database I would like to implement it on is running Standard Edition, not
Enterprise Edition. 

I have information comparing 8i SE vs EE features and VPD was listed as only
available if you are running EE. When I poked around the database it appears
that the DBMS_RLS package is installed and available. Before I try testing
this on a happy production server, can someone confirm whether or not I can
implement VPD on Standard Edition? 


Regards,

Gary Norwell

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RE: DBA Experiences with Oracle and RAID 0+1

2002-01-14 Thread Ken Janusz

Jon:

I would suggest Oracle8i DBA Handbook by Loney  Theriault.  Chapter 4
deals with the physical database layouts.  It starts with the ideal layout
on 22 disks and goes down to about 7 disks.  It's very good.

Ken Janusz, CPIM 
Database Conversion Lead 
Sufficient Systems, Inc. 
Minneapolis, MN
 

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Subject:DBA Experiences with Oracle and RAID 0+1

We are in the process of setting up a SAN using RAID 0+1 for our database.
In our current environment, we are able to separate our tables, indexes,
rollback segments, and archive logs on different disks.  On the SAN we would
have six 73 gig disks on RAID 0+1 for a total of about 210 Gig of usable
space (3 disks worth of space). 

Some white papers that I have read suggest attempting to separate the data,
indexes, and rollback segments on separate RAID volumes, and others simply
suggest that the performance boost of striping will supercede the separation
of these items.

Can anyone offer any comments or suggestions?

Jon Behnke
Applications Development Manager
Industrial Electric Wire  Cable
Phone (262) 957-1147  Fax (262) 957-1647 
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Sign Out

2002-01-14 Thread Newport, Colin

I will be out for the remainder of the day.
Thanks

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sniped sessions

2002-01-14 Thread Sunil_Nookala

Dear List,

I have init.ora resource_limit = true, and idle_time set in profile. 
When idle_time exceeds, the session status becomes 'sniped' in v$session and
never gets cleaned up.
I manually kill these threads using orakill utility.

I appreciate, if someone can help me with a script to clean up these
sessions automatically(8.1.7 on NT)??

Sunil Nookala
DBA
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RE: Sign Out

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RE: dynamic views in 8.1.6

2002-01-14 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

If you added these to a production system, I trust you that you habitually
wear asbestos underwear. Personally, I never add supported undocumented
parameters to init.ora unless I have to resolve an issue. And I would do so,
one parameter at a time, on a test system, and carefully note the effects.

Thank you,

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LOL!!!

Todd


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Oracle DBA wrote:
 
 we have added these parameters in the init.ORA file .
 query_rewrite_enabled=true
 _complex_view_merging=true
 _push_join_predicate=true
 optimizer_max_permutations=79000
 _use_column_stats_for_function=true
 _like_with_bind_as_equality=true
 _push_join_union_view=true
 _ordered_nested_loop=true
 _or_expand_nvl_predicate=true
 
 after these changes all the dynamic views created by developers have
stopped
 working .
 
 our database is running on aix 4.3.3 and its in MTS mode .
 
 Will appreciate quick response.
 
 thanks in advance .
 
 brajesh jaiswal
 

_stop_messing_with_undocumented_parameters=TRUE

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RE: DBA Experiences with Oracle and RAID 0+1

2002-01-14 Thread Craig Munday
Title: RE: DBA Experiences with Oracle and RAID 0+1





If I remember correctly, I do not think that chapter covers RAID. There is a good white paper on implementing RAID for Oracle at http://www.quest.com/whitepapers/Raid1.pdf

Cheers,
Craig.


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Jon:


I would suggest Oracle8i DBA Handbook by Loney  Theriault. Chapter 4
deals with the physical database layouts. It starts with the ideal layout
on 22 disks and goes down to about 7 disks. It's very good.


Ken Janusz, CPIM 
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We are in the process of setting up a SAN using RAID 0+1 for our database.
In our current environment, we are able to separate our tables, indexes,
rollback segments, and archive logs on different disks. On the SAN we would
have six 73 gig disks on RAID 0+1 for a total of about 210 Gig of usable
space (3 disks worth of space). 


Some white papers that I have read suggest attempting to separate the data,
indexes, and rollback segments on separate RAID volumes, and others simply
suggest that the performance boost of striping will supercede the separation
of these items.


Can anyone offer any comments or suggestions?


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RE: Sign Out

2002-01-14 Thread Fisher, Julie

Wait for me, I want to sign out too!!!  Let's go for a beer.


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We'll sorely miss you. Can you reconsider? If not,
can you publish that on CNN and NYT so that the rest 
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is bliss but this certainly qualifies as breaking news.

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I will be out for the remainder of the day.
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RE: The NT forms60 service in iAS 1.0.2.2.

2002-01-14 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Patrice,

When you run the forms server using the desktop shortcut who are you logged in as?

Can the local administrator account map to the mapped drives?
ie, what happens if you login to the server as the local admin account and run the 
forms server from the desktop?

Alternatively, what happens if you tell the forms server to run as a domain account 
rather than the local admin account?

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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When I run the forms server on one of the servers using a shortcut from the
desktop (i.e. from the command line), Web clients can run Web form
applications.

When I start the forms server service, however, I see the following errors
on the client:

This is an old problem, revisiting it hoping to fix it.

Basically, we use mapped drives to point to .fmx and .html files, therefore
the 
Forms server cannot be run as the NT SYSTEM account. The Forms Server
service 
has been set to run as the local Administrator account.

When I start the Forms60Server service, the services applet reports no 
problems.

From the remote browser however, when I bring up a Web Application, the HTML

loads properly, a small window opens, and then I see error FRM-92050: Failed
to 
connect to the Server hostname:9001

When the Forms Server is started from the command line with port=9001, the
Web 
application appears no problem.

I would like to run the Forms Server as a service, the OEM Forms Listener 
monitoring guidelines say I should start it as a service.

Misc. notes:
formsweb.cfg file says port=9001.
forms60_timeout does not exist in the registry.
Local Admin has the log in as a service user right.
The Jinit version had been set to 1.1.8.16, but we are using 1.1.8.14 -- I 
changed formsweb.cfg to reflect this.  I clicked on the link from technet to
download 1.1.8.16, but it leads nowhere.  
Also the text just before the link appears to have a typo, it refers to
1.1.8.17.


Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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Re: NT questions

2002-01-14 Thread Peter . McLarty

Hi you have a couple of choices for the first problem. You could install cygwin on the NT server and then you could use the shell script to do the work or alternatively install Perl and recode the script in Perl and it would be useable on either platform.

Yes the last number is a platform specific patch. There may be reasons that different systems are patched differently. It may be that one system exhibited a bug relevant to the package the server supports but due to different things the other servers do not have that issue. It might not be a good thing to just patch the other systems without investigating further the purpose of those patches. It is possible you could break something else


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Hi dear Listers,

I have 2 NT questions like to ask;

1.On unix, I use the following script to change the name of alert file.
How to change it in the same way on NT?

for log_file in $(find $ORACLE_BASE/admin -name alert_FMRPT.log | grep
-v alert_FMRPT_.*.log)
do
  newfile=$(echo $log_file | sed s/\.log$/_$dt.log/)
  echo moving alert logs: $log_file $newfile
  mv $log_file $newfile

2. I remember read somewhere about oracle version, for example,
8.1.7.2.x , the last digit is OS related informantion. Is that true? Our
nt boxes, some instance show it is 8.1.7.2.1, some shows 8.1.7.2.6. I'd
like to make all the same version. Where I can get those patch
information? (On unix, all our instances are 8.1.7.2.0, we installed and
patched. Not on NT. kind of out of control at beginning)

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RE: TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread Jared . Still



Warning:  if you are offended by fogeyism or curmudgeonly attitudes, you
should not read the rest of this message.

Thank you.

As for TOAD vs SQL*Navigator, I would certainly agree with you there.  TOAD
has a much better interface.

As for the tools that I would steadfastly refuse to give up, sorry, TOAD
doesn't make the cut.

Tools that do make the cut:

SQL*Plus
vi or vim
korn shell
Perl
Guiness
Yukon Jack
Bombay Saphire Gin
Martini and Rossi Vermouth
Lagavulin Single Malt

Not necessarily in that order.

Jared



   
 
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TOAD is the one Oracle tool I would refuse to give up.  We used to use
SQL*Navigator, and I much prefer TOAD.  It has a well-thought-out
interface,
and has useful features for both DBA and Developer.  All of our developers
and DBAs use it.

The support from Toadman and his development group is outstanding.  There
is
a very active mail list (http://www.egroups.com/list/toad) and an active
beta program open to ALL registered TOAD owners.

I can't recommend TOAD highly enough.

Dave

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 Not sure, whether this has already been discussed on
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 mailing to list.

 I just wanted to check how good TOAD software is. I am
 evaluating this software for my company.

 Has anyone bought it?

 Will appreciate quick response.

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Re: sniped sessions

2002-01-14 Thread Jared . Still



Here's a very rough cut at a script to generate a batch file
to kill the threads.

-- orakill.sql
set head off feed off linesize 100 pagesize 0

spool okill.bat

select
   'orakill ' || i.instance_name || ' ' ||  p.spid
from v$process p, v$session s, v$instance i
where p.addr=s.paddr
and s.status = 'SNIPED'
/

spool off

exit
---

from the command line:

sqlplus system/manager  @orakill.sql
okill.bat

Jared




   
 
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Dear List,

I have init.ora resource_limit = true, and idle_time set in profile.
When idle_time exceeds, the session status becomes 'sniped' in v$session
and
never gets cleaned up.
I manually kill these threads using orakill utility.

I appreciate, if someone can help me with a script to clean up these
sessions automatically(8.1.7 on NT)??

Sunil Nookala
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RE: UTF8 and Win2K

2002-01-14 Thread Mr Frank Pettinato

Maybe I am wrong, but here is my thinking..
The problem is that the DBA on-site built a db using
US7ACII and then used the dbca to change the character
set to UTF8 and perform a partial re-install. My
thought was that some of the language specific .msb
files were not installed correctly during the
modification. 

Since I was just engaged, I have had only 1 hour on
the server, I found ORA-0600 errors in the alter.log.
I have opened a TAR and I am working all the other
potential holes in the DB. Like 1 db with 6 service
handlers ! I could understand 1 or 2 but 6 ? All for
TCP/IP and all for the same DB and server.

I will be doing some cleaning here while I wait!

Frank
--- Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Obviously you need more details on the lock-up
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 Folks,
 I am starting a new project today and the client is
 using 8.1.7 on a
 standalone Win2K server. They had a DBA set up the
 server and install the
 software.
 Now when they run any query, the server locks up. I
 am not on-site yet, so I
 can't give any further details yet, but has anyone
 ever heard of anything
 like this?
 
 I am not even sure that the UTF8 character set is
 involved, but I thought I
 would ask.
 
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Re[2]: TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread Robert Eskridge

Jared,

I find it somewhat curious that while the first four tools suggest a
preference for the home brew approach, the last five are certainly
third party tools.  I'm certainly with you on the first four, but I
think the others need more research.  If you are ever in Dallas, we'll
have to go to a lab and compare results

-rje



J As for the tools that I would steadfastly refuse to give up, sorry, TOAD
J doesn't make the cut.

J Tools that do make the cut:

J SQL*Plus
J vi or vim
J korn shell
J Perl
J Guiness
J Yukon Jack
J Bombay Saphire Gin
J Martini and Rossi Vermouth
J Lagavulin Single Malt

J Not necessarily in that order.


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RE: TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread Steve McClure

Tools that do make the cut:

SQL*Plus
vi or vim
korn shell
Perl
Guiness
Yukon Jack
Bombay Saphire Gin
Martini and Rossi Vermouth
Lagavulin Single Malt

Jared

Yukon Jack !?  I would never have guessed it.

Lagavulin huh?  If only I had known.  I am partial to Dalwhinnie myself.

Oh I absolutely agree on the other important tools, though I admit you did
have me wondering what the Guiness software suite had to offer.

As for TOAD,  I would definately give it a thumbs up.  I used to work for a
client that owned a copy.  I admit it was the GUI tool that made me
begrudgingly begin to accept GUI tools.

Steve



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RE: buffer writes vs. archived logs generation

2002-01-14 Thread John Kanagaraj

Patrice,

Didn't see any answers from the performance gurus, so here's my take on
this.

While it is true that all changes that are made to the database is made
against the buffers in the buffer cache, this is preceded by redo entries in
the redo buffer that is in turn written almost continuosly into the
redologs. It is these redologs that are then written out as archivelogs at
redolog switch (when a redolog fills up). Multiple changes to a particular
'hot' db buffer will result in multiple redolog entries (more redolog and
thus archive log) but a single write (buffer write) when the buffer is
ultimately written out. In other words, the amount of information written
out as measured by 'buffer writes' cannot be compared to archivelogs
generated when you have a multiple simultaneous update-intensive workload. I
believe you should look at V$SYSSTAT's 'redo blocks written' to measure what
you are looking for.

Does this answer your query? Btw, what did you use to measure 'buffer
writes'? 

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 Subject: buffer writes vs. archived logs generation
 
 
 FYI,
 
 I just compared audit trail data for buffer writes against 
 the number of
 archived logs generated per day.
 
 Although there appears to be a vague correspondence between 
 the two, it is
 not always the case.
 
 I would have thought that the relationship would have been 
 more direct.
 
 Would anyone know why some buffer writes might not get 
 written through redo
 logs?
 
 Regards,
 Patrice Boivin
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RE: Oracle Enterprise Manager

2002-01-14 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

What version of OEM - 204, 2.1 or 2.2?

In 204 to clean out you had to manually connect via sqlplus and run a PLSQL package.
In 2.1 / 2.2 this can be done from the navigator.

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I have tried, but they show a status of pending. I am unable to de-register
from OEM against this node.

Srini 

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Have you cleared out all registered events, jobs, and alerts against
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Hi:
I am running into this problem with OEM while trying to delete a node
previously configured.  OEM returns an error VNI-4040 Node agent queue file
may be corrupted.  I have gone through a few postings on Metalink and
implemented the suggestions there such as  removing .q files in agent
directory on the NODE and restating agent on the node, bouncing OMS on the
client side  but the problem persists. 

I would appreciate recommendations on resolving this problem.

Thanks

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RE: dynamic views in 8.1.6

2002-01-14 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

This one's a keeper :) 


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Oracle DBA wrote:
 
 we have added these parameters in the init.ORA file .
 query_rewrite_enabled=true
 _complex_view_merging=true
 _push_join_predicate=true
 optimizer_max_permutations=79000
 _use_column_stats_for_function=true
 _like_with_bind_as_equality=true
 _push_join_union_view=true
 _ordered_nested_loop=true
 _or_expand_nvl_predicate=true
 
 after these changes all the dynamic views created by developers have
stopped
 working .
 
 our database is running on aix 4.3.3 and its in MTS mode .
 
 Will appreciate quick response.
 
 thanks in advance .
 
 brajesh jaiswal
 

_stop_messing_with_undocumented_parameters=TRUE

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Re: Re[2]: TOAD Software???

2002-01-14 Thread Jared Still


While the first four are required low level tools, those
following are indeed outsourced from a third party.

Though considered by many to be used only in case
of emergency, I find that modest application of these tools
tends to relieve situations that might otherwise induce panic.

Overuse on the other hand, tends to throw a wrench in the
works and complicate issues, as third party tools are 
wont to do.

Jared



On Monday 14 January 2002 15:51, Robert Eskridge wrote:
 Jared,

 I find it somewhat curious that while the first four tools suggest a
 preference for the home brew approach, the last five are certainly
 third party tools.  I'm certainly with you on the first four, but I
 think the others need more research.  If you are ever in Dallas, we'll
 have to go to a lab and compare results

 -rje



 J As for the tools that I would steadfastly refuse to give up, sorry, TOAD
 J doesn't make the cut.

 J Tools that do make the cut:

 J SQL*Plus
 J vi or vim
 J korn shell
 J Perl
 J Guiness
 J Yukon Jack
 J Bombay Saphire Gin
 J Martini and Rossi Vermouth
 J Lagavulin Single Malt

 J Not necessarily in that order.
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