Re: Server upgrade NT4 -> W2K Oracle implications

2002-05-11 Thread Eric D. Pierce

under the original scenario, presumably one would deinstall oracle before upgrading 
from NT4
to win2k, and then reinstall it after win2k is in place.

-

another possible alternative:

(first: backup backup backup)

variation on the test box theme:

add an additional hard drive to install win2k dual boot, reinstall oracle on the win2k 
partition as a
test, and point it at the database (a test instance?) on the other drive and see if it 
works?

if you are anal about security (or what passes for security in the MS world), NT4 to 
Win2k
upgrade is more difficult to "secure" .

doing a clean win2k install and exportin/importing your database is probable a good 
idea, but
may not strictly be necessary. there is a vast amount of info on the net about NT4 
upgrade to
Win2k vs clean Win2K install. my impression is that to really exploit the more advanced
capabilities of Wink, it is considered better to do a clean install.

regards,
ep


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> Sounds good in theory.
>
> What if the upgrade destroys some DLL in the SYSTEM32 directory that
> Oracle is dependent on?
>
> There may be none Oracle registry entries set such as:
>
> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WaitToKillServiceTimeout
>
> This is sometimes set to a much higher than default value to
> allow Oracle to shutdown properly without getting killed by NT.
>
>
> Sounds like something that should be tested on a non-critical
> system first.
>
> Jared
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> We have an 8.1.7 SE database on a server which is currently NT4 SP6.  The
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RE: Cannot import--URGENT

2002-05-11 Thread Kimberly Smith

Ok, first, do not do imports/exports as sys.  The last thing you every
want to do is move around sys's tables.  Second, did sys truly own the
tables?  Hopefully not.  I hate to hear you have non data dictionary tables
owned by sys in a production database.  Course there are those certain
pesky little third party tools that sometimes make you do that but just
don't use them.

The fact that you are using different character sets is no biggy.  Ignore
that comment.  It would be an issue if say you were storing Japanese
characters
in one database and you were not setup to accept them on the other.  For
the most part its not a concern.  I leave it to you to do your own research
on that to see if it truly is an issue.

Seeing as how there are truly no errors in you import I keep going back
to the fact that sys is not the original owner of the table.  So it tried
to import sys's tables into ravi and there were none so all is good.

Unless you are starting/shutting your database or rerunning any catalog
related scripts (for upgrades or whatever) you need to forget the fact you
know
the sys password.  Course there are the occasional grants that need to
be done as well but really question why you are signing on as sys and
whether
or not it can be done as another user in the database.

-Original Message-
Rafiq
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:48 PM
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I was having similar problem with one of our table while exporting using
direct=y. No error either from export or while importing but no record with
data inserted although doing count it was giving right count.

Solution was to export that particular table with conventional path i.e. not
using direct while export. But in your case , it looks your not using
direct=y right. Oracle support could not figure it out this problem.
Platform for export and import was HP-UX 11. export version 8.1.6.2 and
importing to 8.1.7.2 database. Anyhow it was problem was with export as size
of dmp file size was visibly totally different.

Regards
Rafiq




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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:08:25 -0800

Ravindra - Just from looking at your error messages, it sounds like the two
Oracle systems have different character sets. I would check this out if I
were you. The other thing to check for is whether the tables are created in
a different schema than you are expecting. As SYS or SYSTEM,
 select owner from dba_tables where table_name = 'MYTABLE';
If the table was actually created, but in a different schema, this query
should tell you where.
Again, these are just a couple of ideas for you to look into, and the other
people who have replied have also given you some good ideas to look into.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I am trying to import from my production database to another database.Table
level export
was done on the production databse for 4 table.It ended w/o any errors.

When I am trying to import to anther user on a different datasbe the import
compltes
successfully without any warning but no table/records are imported
The tables being imported are not existing in the new user's schema.
I have tried this on 8.1.7 to 8.1.7 and also on 8.1.7 to 9.0.1.

These tables on the production database are protected so I can export them
only as sys user.I am attaching the log from the import.What is the problem.
Am i missing anything


imp sys/change_on_install fromuser=sys touser=ravi file=g.dmp log=g.log

Connected to: Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production

Export file created by EXPORT:V08.01.07 via conventional path
import done in WE8MSWIN1252 character set and AL16UTF16 NCHAR character set
export client uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set (possible charset conversion)
export server uses US7ASCII NCHAR character set (possible ncharset
conversion)
Import terminated successfully without warnings.

Ravindra

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RE: Cannot import--URGENT

2002-05-11 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

I was having similar problem with one of our table while exporting using 
direct=y. No error either from export or while importing but no record with 
data inserted although doing count it was giving right count.

Solution was to export that particular table with conventional path i.e. not 
using direct while export. But in your case , it looks your not using 
direct=y right. Oracle support could not figure it out this problem.
Platform for export and import was HP-UX 11. export version 8.1.6.2 and 
importing to 8.1.7.2 database. Anyhow it was problem was with export as size 
of dmp file size was visibly totally different.

Regards
Rafiq




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Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:08:25 -0800

Ravindra - Just from looking at your error messages, it sounds like the two
Oracle systems have different character sets. I would check this out if I
were you. The other thing to check for is whether the tables are created in
a different schema than you are expecting. As SYS or SYSTEM,
 select owner from dba_tables where table_name = 'MYTABLE';
If the table was actually created, but in a different schema, this query
should tell you where.
Again, these are just a couple of ideas for you to look into, and the other
people who have replied have also given you some good ideas to look into.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I am trying to import from my production database to another database.Table
level export
was done on the production databse for 4 table.It ended w/o any errors.

When I am trying to import to anther user on a different datasbe the import
compltes
successfully without any warning but no table/records are imported
The tables being imported are not existing in the new user's schema.
I have tried this on 8.1.7 to 8.1.7 and also on 8.1.7 to 9.0.1.

These tables on the production database are protected so I can export them
only as sys user.I am attaching the log from the import.What is the problem.
Am i missing anything


imp sys/change_on_install fromuser=sys touser=ravi file=g.dmp log=g.log

Connected to: Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production

Export file created by EXPORT:V08.01.07 via conventional path
import done in WE8MSWIN1252 character set and AL16UTF16 NCHAR character set
export client uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set (possible charset conversion)
export server uses US7ASCII NCHAR character set (possible ncharset
conversion)
Import terminated successfully without warnings.

Ravindra

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RE: Cannot import--URGENT

2002-05-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Ravindra - Just from looking at your error messages, it sounds like the two
Oracle systems have different character sets. I would check this out if I
were you. The other thing to check for is whether the tables are created in
a different schema than you are expecting. As SYS or SYSTEM, 
select owner from dba_tables where table_name = 'MYTABLE';
If the table was actually created, but in a different schema, this query
should tell you where.
Again, these are just a couple of ideas for you to look into, and the other
people who have replied have also given you some good ideas to look into.
Dennis Williams 
DBA 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:23 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I am trying to import from my production database to another database.Table
level export
was done on the production databse for 4 table.It ended w/o any errors.
 
When I am trying to import to anther user on a different datasbe the import
compltes
successfully without any warning but no table/records are imported
The tables being imported are not existing in the new user's schema.
I have tried this on 8.1.7 to 8.1.7 and also on 8.1.7 to 9.0.1.
 
These tables on the production database are protected so I can export them
only as sys user.I am attaching the log from the import.What is the problem.
Am i missing anything
 

imp sys/change_on_install fromuser=sys touser=ravi file=g.dmp log=g.log

Connected to: Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
 
Export file created by EXPORT:V08.01.07 via conventional path
import done in WE8MSWIN1252 character set and AL16UTF16 NCHAR character set
export client uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set (possible charset conversion)
export server uses US7ASCII NCHAR character set (possible ncharset
conversion)
Import terminated successfully without warnings. 
 
Ravindra

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Re: Cannot import--URGENT

2002-05-11 Thread Joe Raube

How was the export created?

Do you have the output from the export, or the script that created
it?

-Joe

--- Ravindra B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to import from my production database to another
> database.Table level export
> was done on the production databse for 4 table.It ended w/o any
> errors.
> 
> When I am trying to import to anther user on a different datasbe
> the import compltes
> successfully without any warning but no table/records are imported
> The tables being imported are not existing in the new user's
> schema.
> I have tried this on 8.1.7 to 8.1.7 and also on 8.1.7 to 9.0.1.
> 
> These tables on the production database are protected so I can
> export them
> only as sys user.I am attaching the log from the import.What is the
> problem.
> Am i missing anything
> 
> imp sys/change_on_install fromuser=sys touser=ravi file=g.dmp
> log=g.log
> 
> Connected to: Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.1.1 -
> Production
> With the Partitioning option
> JServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
> 
> Export file created by EXPORT:V08.01.07 via conventional path
> import done in WE8MSWIN1252 character set and AL16UTF16 NCHAR
> character set
> export client uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set (possible charset
> conversion)
> export server uses US7ASCII NCHAR character set (possible ncharset
> conversion)
> Import terminated successfully without warnings. 
> 
> Ravindra
> 


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Re: Cannot import--URGENT

2002-05-11 Thread Jack Silvey

Ravi,

Why is your fromuser=sys? Are you specifying a parfile
anywhere?

Jack




--- Ravindra B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to import from my production database to
> another database.Table level export
> was done on the production databse for 4 table.It
> ended w/o any errors.
> 
> When I am trying to import to anther user on a
> different datasbe the import compltes
> successfully without any warning but no
> table/records are imported
> The tables being imported are not existing in the
> new user's schema.
> I have tried this on 8.1.7 to 8.1.7 and also on
> 8.1.7 to 9.0.1.
> 
> These tables on the production database are
> protected so I can export them
> only as sys user.I am attaching the log from the
> import.What is the problem.
> Am i missing anything
> 
> imp sys/change_on_install fromuser=sys touser=ravi
> file=g.dmp log=g.log
> 
> Connected to: Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release
> 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
> With the Partitioning option
> JServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
> 
> Export file created by EXPORT:V08.01.07 via
> conventional path
> import done in WE8MSWIN1252 character set and
> AL16UTF16 NCHAR character set
> export client uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set
> (possible charset conversion)
> export server uses US7ASCII NCHAR character set
> (possible ncharset conversion)
> Import terminated successfully without warnings. 
> 
> Ravindra
> 


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Cannot import--URGENT

2002-05-11 Thread Ravindra B



I am trying to import from my production database 
to another database.Table level export
was done on the production databse for 4 table.It 
ended w/o any errors.
 
When I am trying to import to anther user on 
a different datasbe the import compltes
successfully without any warning but no 
table/records are imported
The tables being imported are not existing in the 
new user's schema.
I have tried this on 8.1.7 to 8.1.7 and also on 
8.1.7 to 9.0.1.
 
These tables on the production database are 
protected so I can export them
only as sys user.I am attaching the log from the 
import.What is the problem.
Am i missing anything
 
imp sys/change_on_install fromuser=sys touser=ravi file=g.dmp 
log=g.log
Connected to: Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.1.1 - 
ProductionWith the Partitioning optionJServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - 
Production
 
Export file created by EXPORT:V08.01.07 via conventional pathimport 
done in WE8MSWIN1252 character set and AL16UTF16 NCHAR character setexport 
client uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set (possible charset conversion)export 
server uses US7ASCII NCHAR character set (possible ncharset 
conversion)Import terminated successfully without 
warnings. 
 
Ravindra