RE: TEST

2002-05-20 Thread Abdul Aleem
Title: TEST



What 
are you testing?

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  TEST
  TESTING ... 


Re: Oracle web application

2002-05-20 Thread sean . hull


On Sat, 18 May 2002, Keith Carney wrote:

 I am a beginner in Oracle and I need help.
 I need to implement a interactive connection of oracle with web. I need to
 save data from web to database, make a kind of processing and send a
 response to the web. I have no idea even how to make the implementation. Can
 somebody help me ?

Keith:

I would consider PHP (http://www.php.net).  It is very powerful, and very
fast.  It is low overhead as compared to Java, and stored PL/SQL, as well
as many other web development solutions.  Basically you have PHP scripts
embedded in HTML pages or templates which get executed by Apache in a
similar way that CGI's used to.  Actually PHP is compiled into the Apache
server, or as a dynamically loaded module.  My biz site runs on it:
http://www.iheavy.com.

HTH,
Sean

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RE: Platinum Fastunloader

2002-05-20 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe



Thanks 
for all the replies chaps. Its a legacy product here and we needed to see if it 
was licenced correctly. It looks like we are going to dump it 
anyway.

Regards

Lee

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Platinum Fastunloader

  Weird question 
  chaps BUT
  
  Anyone out there 
  using this product and if so, is there a way of finding out if the product is 
  licenced on your system. 
  
  FYI we are on 
  Tru64.
  
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What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi guys,

I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster processors 
and more memory space)

I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database in the older 
machine,

When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when I import to 
newer machine it was fast too, 

and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am using same 
export parameters in both servers)
Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (


- The no of records are the same for both machines
- v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1



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tns-12541 no listener while using connection manager

2002-05-20 Thread M B Shibu




Hi friends.
I am having a problem when trying to connect 
through connection manger i have in my tnsnames.ora and cman.ora as given 
below then use_cman = TRUE in sqlnet.ora
and my server is configured for MTS . It's on 
oracle 8.1.7 in win 2k . 
-
TNSNAMES.ORA
-
ABC = (DESCRIPTION 
= (load_balance=on)  
(failover=on) (ADDRESS_LIST = 
( SOURCE_ROUTE = YES ) ( ADDRESS = ( PROTOCOL 
= TCP )( HOST = oracle )(SERVICE = CMAN)( PORT = 1610 
)) ( ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = 
oracle)(SERVICE = CMAN )( PORT = 1521)) 
) ( CONNECT_DATA = 
 ( SERVICE_NAME = oracledb 
) ) 
)
---
CMAN.ORA
---
cman = 
(ADDRESS_LIST= 
( ADDRESS=( PROTOCOL=tcp 
) 
( HOST= oracle 
) 
( PORT=1630 
) 
( QUEUESIZE=32 
) 
) )cman_profile = ( 
parameter_list= 
( MAXIMUM_RELAYS=1024 
) 
( LOG_LEVEL=1 
) 
( TRACING=yes 
) 
( RELAY_STATISTICS=yes 
) 
( SHOW_TNS_INFO=yes 
) 
( USE_ASYNC_CALL=yes 
) 
( AUTHENTICATION_LEVEL=0 
) 
( REMOTE_ADMIN=FALSE 
) 
)CMAN_ADMIN = 
(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=oracle)(PORT=1650))CMANAGER_NAME = 
cman

But i am getting the error 12541 no 
listener .Please help me in solving this
This is urgent

shibu


Errors on Alert file

2002-05-20 Thread GL2Z/ INF DBA BENLATRECHE

Hi All,

Is it normal that after a shutdown immediate of a database (Oracle
8.1.7),  Errors (Ora-602) are still generated on the Instance Alert file ? 


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rman

2002-05-20 Thread Malik, Fawzia
Title: RE: [Q] what difference between count(0), count(1) and



Hi 


Please 
can you help/advise with an rman problem we are having. We are getting the 
following error when trying to backup a database:

RMAN-20011: target database incarnation is not current 
in recovery catalog

If I 
look in the rman logs I see that our last valid backup was 16th May. The rman 
database shows that the rc_backup_file has an entry for that date- anything 
after that is blank.

Metalink has provided a solution to zero the dbid- what 
are the implications of this- it gives no information on that. The additional 
aspect is that I need to restore the 16th's backup onto our ref box so if 
zeroing the dbid will hose that backup..I'd rather avoid that??!!! : 
)

Any 
help would be REALLY appreciated!!!

Rgds

Fawzia

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SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB





Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB?


Thanks.





RE: Errors on Alert file

2002-05-20 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran
Title: RE: Errors on Alert file





ORA-00602 
ORA-00602internal programming exception 
Cause:An internal programming exception has occurred. 
Action:Report this error as a program bug to Worldwide Customer Support. 



nirmal.


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Hi All,


 Is it normal that after a shutdown immediate of a database (Oracle
8.1.7), Errors (Ora-602) are still generated on the Instance Alert file ? 



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RE: Connecting to DB from behind a firewall - solved !

2002-05-20 Thread Andrey Bronfin

thanks a lot to all who responded !!!


DBAndrey

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Oracle has a registry setting that will force all traffic for a session
through the same port that the listener connection was made on (e.g. 1521).
Place the USE_SHARED_SOCKET parameter in the registry under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:Software:Oracle with a value of TRUE, and restart Oracle
and the listener for it to take effect.  It also doesn't hurt to set this
parameter as a system environment variable as well.

---
Jason Heinrich, OCP
Oracle Database Administrator
Pensacola Christian College
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 Date: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:36 AM
 Subject: Connecting to DB from behind a firewall.

 Dear list !
 It's an Oracle 8.0.5 on Win NT question:
 We want to put our database server behind a firewall.
 The problem is the clients that need to connect to our DB from the outer
 world.
 Now , i know that the Oracle listener can choose any port when passing the
 connection to the Oracle server.
 That means , that theoretically all the ports should be open on the
firewall
 in order to allow client connections.
 Sounds illogical.
 So, is there a way to limit the ports range used by the listener when
 passing the connections to the Oracle server ?
 I do not want to use connection manager etc..

 thanks a lot !

 DBAndrey

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Finally....DBNEWID

2002-05-20 Thread Connor McDonald

Just a FYI...

Anyone using RMAN will know the joy of Rman getting
very upset if you pretty much do anything with a
database that has been cloned from another. 
(According to the doco) in 9i.2, the rumoured DBNEWID
is now available so you can change the database id or
database name.

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RE: Errors on Alert file

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

No. Which patch level is your 8.1.7? Are any trace files generated? Have you
checked Metalink?
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Hi All,

Is it normal that after a shutdown immediate of a database (Oracle
8.1.7),  Errors (Ora-602) are still generated on the Instance Alert file ? 


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Re: rman

2002-05-20 Thread Ruth Gramolini

You won't hose the backup you need.  You can use rman nocatalog if there is
a problem with the incarnation.

Ruth
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 Hi

 Please can you help/advise with an rman problem we are having. We are
 getting the following error when trying to backup a database:

 RMAN-20011: target database incarnation is not current in recovery catalog

 If I look in the rman logs I see that our last valid backup was 16th May.
 The rman database shows that the rc_backup_file has an entry for that
date-
 anything after that is blank.

 Metalink has provided a solution to zero the dbid- what are the
implications
 of this- it gives no information on that. The additional aspect is that I
 need to restore the 16th's backup onto our ref box so if zeroing the dbid
 will hose that backup..I'd rather avoid that??!!! : )

 Any help would be REALLY appreciated!!!

 Rgds

 Fawzia


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RE: Upgrade and it says it doesn't need it

2002-05-20 Thread YTTRI Lisa

Unfortunately - this is what I'm having a problem with.  I did install with
OUI.  The log files from that installation are in the oraInventory
directory.  Subsequently, I installed some client software (precompilers) on
the machine.  The oraInventory only shows the client installation, not the
real server.  

And...I have confirmed - the oraInst.loc file does correctly point to
the oraInventory directory.

It just looks as though the installer process didn't update the oraInventory
correctly.  Now I'm afraid I'm Screwed on the upgrade!

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I'm guessing that the 9.0.1.0 server software was not installed using the
Oracle installer?  Did you tar it over from somewhere else?

For a server installed using the installer, you'll find a file in
/var/opt/oracle named oraInst.loc, which contains the name of the
directory containing the Oracle Universal Installer's oraInventory
directory.

Your installer running the 9.0.1.2 patch is checking for that file in
/var/opt/oracle and probably not finding it.  Or, it is finding it and the
oraInventory directory, but the inventory says that only the client has
been installed...

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 HI -

 I'm trying to upgrade my database from 9.0.1.0 to 9.0.1.2 (Sun Solaris).
 The installer tells me there are no files that need to be applied.  When I
 click on installed products, under 9i it only show the client install, not
 the enterprise edition server.  Does anyone know what I can do to get the
 installer to realize that I do have the server installed?

 Thank you -
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RE: TEST

2002-05-20 Thread Schilling, Ben

Your shift key is not working correctly

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TESTING ... 

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Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread Yexley Robert D Contr Det 1 AFRL/WSI

I was wondering if anyone might have tried this before, because I can't seem to get it 
to work.  I'd like to be able to determine which unit of measure to concatenate to a 
value by using a decode statement in the query.  I have a column in the database that 
stores time in minutes, and I'd like to be able to show the output in minutes if the 
value is less than 60, but in hours (such as 3.27 hours) if the value is greater than 
60.  So far I've tried the following statement, but it seems to be blowing up on the 
first comparison operator:

SELECT decode(in_value, to_char(to_number(in_value) = to_number('60')), 
to_char(in_value)||' minutes', to_char(to_number(in_value)  to_number('60')), 
to_char(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
  FROM dual
/

I'm selecting from dual just until I can get the query working at all.  Is what I'm 
trying to do even possible?  Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 
in advance.

_YEX_

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RE: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Chen, Brian
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB



Use 
BCP to export data from SQL Server and SQL Load import data into Oracle 
DB.

Brian Chen 

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  Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables 
  in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 
  Thanks. 


Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel_Carmichael



as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
honorary men?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for being an
honorary man.

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:

 The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
 around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

Stephane Faroult
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RE: rman

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Fawzia - I have not experienced your error, so these are just some thoughts.
Have you checked the dbid in RMAN and in the database (v$database)? Have you
performed an O.S. clone of the database? Metalink has quite a few entries on
20011 that may provide some ideas. If you need to reset the catalog and also
be able to use the 5/16 backup, one idea might be to export/recreate the
RMAN catalog under another schema first. Never tried that, but just a
thought. Hopefully someone that has experienced this error will respond.
Dennis Williams 
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Hi 
 
Please can you help/advise with an rman problem we are having. We are
getting the following error when trying to backup a database:
 
RMAN-20011: target database incarnation is not current in recovery catalog
 
If I look in the rman logs I see that our last valid backup was 16th May.
The rman database shows that the rc_backup_file has an entry for that date-
anything after that is blank.
 
Metalink has provided a solution to zero the dbid- what are the implications
of this- it gives no information on that. The additional aspect is that I
need to restore the 16th's backup onto our ref box so if zeroing the dbid
will hose that backup..I'd rather avoid that??!!! : )
 
Any help would be REALLY appreciated!!!
 
Rgds
 
Fawzia


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sql server to oracle db

2002-05-20 Thread JOE TESTA



Rich, since you have SQL SERVER, do you have DTS?, thats the easiest way to 
move he data around.

joe



Re:Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread dgoulet

Robert,

That won't work.  Decode works like a switch statement.  If condition 1 then
value 1.  You can't imbed logic operators therein.

DickG.

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I was wondering if anyone might have tried this before, because I can't seem to
get it to work.  I'd like to be able to determine which unit of measure to
concatenate to a value by using a decode statement in the query.  I have a
column in the database that stores time in minutes, and I'd like to be able to
show the output in minutes if the value is less than 60, but in hours (such as
3.27 hours) if the value is greater than 60.  So far I've tried the following
statement, but it seems to be blowing up on the first comparison operator:

SELECT decode(in_value, to_char(to_number(in_value) = to_number('60')),
to_char(in_value)||' minutes', to_char(to_number(in_value)  to_number('60')),
to_char(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
  FROM dual
/

I'm selecting from dual just until I can get the query working at all.  Is what
I'm trying to do even possible?  Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks in advance.

_YEX_

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RE: Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

How about 

select to_char(floor(my_col_in_minutes/60), '990') || ':' ||
to_char(mod(my_col_in_minutes, 60)) HH:MI from dual
/

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I was wondering if anyone might have tried this before, because I can't seem
to get it to work.  I'd like to be able to determine which unit of measure
to concatenate to a value by using a decode statement in the query.  I have
a column in the database that stores time in minutes, and I'd like to be
able to show the output in minutes if the value is less than 60, but in
hours (such as 3.27 hours) if the value is greater than 60.  So far I've
tried the following statement, but it seems to be blowing up on the first
comparison operator:

SELECT decode(in_value, to_char(to_number(in_value) = to_number('60')),
to_char(in_value)||' minutes', to_char(to_number(in_value) 
to_number('60')), to_char(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
  FROM dual
/

I'm selecting from dual just until I can get the query working at all.  Is
what I'm trying to do even possible?  Any help or ideas would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

_YEX_



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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel_Carmichael



Stephane,

I *did* warn you about the OT list before I approved your registration on
it..

btw, this sounds like it should have gone private, not to the list

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:

 The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
 around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

Stephane Faroult
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RE: Compressing Export Dumps

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Simon - I'll repeat (for the third time, I believe) that this sounds like an
ideal use for database cloning. Much faster, and as a bonus you get to test
your backups, which is always an excellent idea. More information can be
found at
http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:843675::NO::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID,F
4950_P8_CRITERIA:575623107841,%7Bclone%7D
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Hi Jared,
Sorry about the delayed response.
Trying to import into Training DB/Stadby DB/Development DB.
A kind of backup plan also -Anyhting wrong with this?
Thanks

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Simon,

I'm curious as to why you're creating exports that large.

Are you doing this as a backup method?

Have you ever restored an export that large?

The largest export I've ever restored is about 10 gig, and
it took far too long.

Jared






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Hi all,
My export dumps are too big (80 GB) for my filesystem and I'm looking for 
a
way 
to compress them on the fly -ie without taking *.dmp to disk first but
straight *.dmp.gz
Anybody with an idea on how to archive this ?
Thanking you,

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Re: Oracle web application

2002-05-20 Thread Keith Carney

Hi Dennis, my name is Aida, (my fault about this)

Keith is my husband (I love to bother him).

Thank you for answering to me, I really appreciate it.

Let me explain more clear the situation.

I am a graduate student at Stephen F. Austin State University in computer
science department.

I will graduate next summer. As part of my graduation the department has
assigned me the project

of Computer Science Programming Contest that is done every year. The way the
contest is organized

is this: There is a web site in which the student can register in teams of 3
or 4, they need to give their info

(first name, last name, phone, class, address, for each member, the name of
the team) and a user name

and password is assigned to each team so they can come back and change it at
any time.

At the contest day, to each time is given their account on TITANS and
password and directions how

they can send their answers back by mail form their account to the jury.
Every team-member can program in

C, C++ or COBOL (languages that are taught at our university). After the
e-mail is sent, the judge sends

back the result of the answer.

The way that is done until last time is this. A faculty member used the PHP
to make the registration and

humans do all the other part. (this is what they want to avoid mainly and
this time I think they are

going to use also UNIX accounts for students)

I took an oracle class (is the first time that is offered) this spring and
they assigned me to do this project using oracle.

I have learned SQL and PL/SQL and some of the basics of Oracle. I have
designed some web sites before

with forms, but never any one in interaction with the user and a database.
That's why I need help for basically

everything. (even for the general concept). Should I still use PHP or is
there any better choice? This is my first

big question right now but to tell you the truth I have everything under
question mark. But one thing at a time

and I am hunting around to get more comfortable with this problem.

Thank you very much for your time

AIDA



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 Keith - Usually you need to create some sort of application that will
 respond to user requests, extract data from Oracle, and format an HTML
page
 to send back to the user. That is basically what you described in your
 email. How that program interfaces to Oracle will depend on what
programming
 language you choose. Usually your program is executed by a software called
a
 web server or an application server. Before you need to worry about
 Oracle, you need to learn a lot more about Web programming. If by web
you
 mean the Internet, then you also need to learn about Web security. If your
 application is within your company intranet, then this concern isn't so
 significant.
 Suggestions: Find someone in your company that is an experienced Web
 programmer, and discuss your situation with them. That will teach you a
lot
 quicker.
 Go to http://www.google.com, and type terms like HTML Tutorial. A
 good site I found was http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/. This won't
 teach you about connecting to a database, but you've got learn the basics
 before you progress on to advanced topics.
 http://www.computerworld.com/departments/technology/quickstudies offers
 explanations of some of the important concepts so simple even a manager
can
 understand.
 If you encounter more specific questions, write back
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
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 hi,
 I am a beginner in Oracle and I need help.
 I need to implement a interactive connection of oracle with web. I need to
 save data from web to database, make a kind of processing and send a
 response to the web. I have no idea even how to make the implementation.
Can
 somebody help me ?

 Thanks


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RE: Errors on Alert file

2002-05-20 Thread GL2Z/ INF DBA BENLATRECHE

Hello DENNIS,

 Our patch level is 8.1.7.2.2 running under Netware 5.1.
 
 I think it's the latest patch that we found on Metalink.

Best Regards
Kamel Benlatreche

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No. Which patch level is your 8.1.7? Are any trace files generated? Have you
checked Metalink?
Dennis Williams
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Hi All,

Is it normal that after a shutdown immediate of a database (Oracle
8.1.7),  Errors (Ora-602) are still generated on the Instance Alert file ? 


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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Root, Melanie

Hehe...  I was thinking the same thing and decided not to pursue!  Thanks
for stepping up to make that request.  I don't look like a man, I don't feel
like a man, have never been called one of the guys

Just curious too...  This is interesting!
Melanie Burns

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
honorary men?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for being
an
honorary man.

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:

 The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
 around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

Stephane Faroult
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RE: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB



I 
would use SQL Servers DTS tool. It is relatively easy depending on how 
much data you have to move. I use it fasirly often to move data between 
Oracle, SQL Server, DB2 and other data sources.

Dave

  -Original Message-From: Richard Huntley 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:03 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: SQL 
  Server to Oracle DB
  Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables 
  in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 
  Thanks. 


Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Ruth Gramolini

This inquiring mind want's to know, what is honorary about being thought of
as a man instead of the women you are?
Ruth.
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
 honorary men?  :)

 What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
being an
 honorary man.

 Inquiring minds want to know :)

 Rachel



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 Larry Elkins wrote:
 
  The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
running
  around ;-)

  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
 are like honorary men.


 Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
 curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
 anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
 full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
 less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
 The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
 rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
 or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
 Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
 have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
 Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
 the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
 because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
 (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
 and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
 the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
 shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
 rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
 when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
 but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
 logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
 Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
 account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
 tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
 have not tested anything yet.
 I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
 blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
 doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
 Pierce? Pretty active there.

 Cheers,

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RE: Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

I think in this case you're suppose to use sign as decode was only meant to
deal with specific values

e.g.

SELECT DECODE(SIGN(:in_value - 60),1,TO_CHAR(:in_value/60, '9.99')||'
hours',
-1,TO_CHAR(TO_CHAR(:in_value))||' minutes', 

TO_CHAR(TO_CHAR(:in_value))||' minutes')
FROM dual

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I was wondering if anyone might have tried this before, because I can't seem
to get it to work.  I'd like to be able to determine which unit of measure
to concatenate to a value by using a decode statement in the query.  I have
a column in the database that stores time in minutes, and I'd like to be
able to show the output in minutes if the value is less than 60, but in
hours (such as 3.27 hours) if the value is greater than 60.  So far I've
tried the following statement, but it seems to be blowing up on the first
comparison operator:

SELECT decode(in_value, to_char(to_number(in_value) = to_number('60')),
to_char(in_value)||' minutes', to_char(to_number(in_value) 
to_number('60')), to_char(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
  FROM dual
/

I'm selecting from dual just until I can get the query working at all.  Is
what I'm trying to do even possible?  Any help or ideas would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

_YEX_

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Re: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB



Richard:

Yes. The way I've done it in the past is to generate 
tilde (~) delimited flat files and then load the data into Oracle via 
SQL*Loader. You have to do a mapping first before using SQL*Loader. Then 
you have to write scripts for each table you are loading. I recommend the 
O'Reilly book Oracle SQL*Loader, The Definitive Guide. This is a process 
that can take time especially if the Oracle application needs data that the old 
legacy DB doesn't provide.

My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard Huntley 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:03 AM
  Subject: SQL Server to Oracle DB
  
  Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables 
  in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 
  Thanks. 


Re:Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread Jan Pruner

Don't use DECODE, but CASE

SELECT TO_CHAR(
CASE WHEN in_value  60 THEN in_value ELSE in_value/60 END
, '9.99'
)  FROM DUAL;

JP


 Reply Separator
 Author: Yexley Robert D Contr Det 1 AFRL/WSI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   5/20/2002 7:08 AM

 I was wondering if anyone might have tried this before, because I can't
 seem to get it to work.  I'd like to be able to determine which unit of
 measure to concatenate to a value by using a decode statement in the query.
  I have a column in the database that stores time in minutes, and I'd like
 to be able to show the output in minutes if the value is less than 60, but
 in hours (such as 3.27 hours) if the value is greater than 60.  So far I've
 tried the following statement, but it seems to be blowing up on the first
 comparison operator:

 SELECT decode(in_value, to_char(to_number(in_value) = to_number('60')),
 to_char(in_value)||' minutes', to_char(to_number(in_value) 
 to_number('60')), to_char(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
   FROM dual
 /

 I'm selecting from dual just until I can get the query working at all.  Is
 what I'm trying to do even possible?  Any help or ideas would be greatly
 appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 _YEX_

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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Freeman, Robert

How does one get on the OT list???

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
honorary men?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for being
an
honorary man.

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:

 The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
 around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

Stephane Faroult
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RE: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread GL2Z/ INF DBA BENLATRECHE
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB



You 
can use BCP Utility (SQL Server side), to download SQL SERVER data into a flat 
file (text file) and then you can use SQLLOADER (Oracle 
Side).

I hope 
it may helps you

Best 
Regards
Kamel 
Benlatreche

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  ORACLE-LObjet: SQL Server to Oracle DB
  Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables 
  in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 
  Thanks. 


Re: Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread Stephane Faroult

Yexley Robert D Contr Det 1 AFRL/WSI wrote:
 
 I was wondering if anyone might have tried this before, because I can't seem to get 
it to work.  I'd like to be able to determine which unit of measure to concatenate to 
a value by using a decode statement in the query.  I have a column in the database 
that stores time in minutes, and I'd like to be able to show the output in minutes if 
the value is less than 60, but in hours (such as 3.27 hours) if the value is greater 
than 60.  So far I've tried the following statement, but it seems to be blowing up on 
the first comparison operator:
 
 SELECT decode(in_value, to_char(to_number(in_value) = to_number('60')), 
to_char(in_value)||' minutes', to_char(to_number(in_value)  to_number('60')), 
to_char(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
   FROM dual
 /
 
 I'm selecting from dual just until I can get the query working at all.  Is what I'm 
trying to do even possible?  Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 
in advance.
 
 _YEX_

Robert,

  check function SIGN() in the SQL Reference manual.
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9i r2

2002-05-20 Thread JOE TESTA



2 of the files downloaded, will be loading it up today,. woohoo, 

can anyone say crash and burn, bwahahahahahaha


joe



Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Stephane Faroult

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
 honorary men?  :)
 
 What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for being an
 honorary man.
 
 Inquiring minds want to know :)
 
 Rachel
 

Well, coming from me 'honorary man' is almost a compliment (also perhaps
not totally in the context of nude sunbathing - I would not be totally
opposed to chador in some cases on French beaches). What summarizes my
thought best, and in a better way than I am able to put it, is probably
this :

http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/4575/mflaudrey7.html#A

Now I think I'd better run for cover, even if the trouble-and-strife is
not on the list ...

You asked for it ;-).

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RE: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Seefelt, Beth
Title: Message




If 
your Oracle platform is Windows, take a look at Heterogeneous Services. I 
just tried it Friday for the first time to load data from an Excel spreadsheet 
and it seems to work pretty well. Should work for SQL 
Server.

HTH,

Beth

  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:03 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: SQL 
  Server to Oracle DB
  Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables 
  in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 
  Thanks. 


RE: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Mark Leith
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB



Use 
the SQLServer DTS package. Under the SQLServer program menu, choose the 
import/export option, and it will start a Data Transformation Service wizard 
type thing for you. You can also do SQL transformations and alike as well, by 
opening the SQL Server Enterprise Manager console, expanding the server that you 
would like to export the data from, and under the Data Transformations folder, 
right click on Local Packages and create a new one.. All sorts of options in 
there, and probably best to hit F1 whilst on the screen.. 


HTHMark

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  Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables 
  in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 
  Thanks. 


Complementary ODTUG 2002 Registrations

2002-05-20 Thread Keith Peterson

as customers, we just received this.  Should be open
to all:

https://www.odtug.com/ssl/2002_reg_iraje.asp


Keith

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LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Mark Leith

If we told you, we would have to kill you ;P

You will need to be a registered user of Yahoo (have a Yahoo
logon/password). Go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oracle-l-ot

And click join this group. You will then be prompted for info such as how
you want to receive the messages etc..

HTH

Mark

a.k.a Dorothy
a.k.a Mutant Metabolism Boy

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How does one get on the OT list???

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
honorary men?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for being
an
honorary man.

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:

 The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
 around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

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Anyone using 8.1.7.4

2002-05-20 Thread Smith, Ron L.

I have an upgrade of Oracle 7.3.4 on NT.  I hear 8.1.7.3 had a lot of bugs.
Should I go with 8.1.7.4?  Any experience with 8.1.7.4?

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RE: Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

You can also implement your logic as 

SELECT DECODE(SIGN(in_value-60),
  -1, TO_CHAR(in_value)||' minutes', 
  TO_CHAR(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
  FROM dual
/

HTH
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Robert,

That won't work.  Decode works like a switch statement.  If condition 1
then
value 1.  You can't imbed logic operators therein.

DickG.



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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Grabowy, Chris

One makes a large cash offering to the Oracle Goddess...

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
honorary men?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for being
an
honorary man.

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:

 The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
 around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

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Fat 

Re:Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread Brian_P_MacLean


You can do numeric logic by using the SIGN() function.  Here is the
solution I think he was looking for:

SQL@sandbox:test:8.1.7:OPS$ORACLE:12,34570r
  1  select ltrim(decode(sign(minutes - 59), 1, to_char(minutes/60, '9.99')
||' hours',
  2 to_char(minutes)||'
minutes'
  3 )
  4  ) TIME
  5from bart
  6*  order by minutes

TIME

13 minutes
55 minutes
1.08 hours
3.50 hours

SQL@sandbox:test:8.1.7:OPS$ORACLE:12,34570select * from bart order by 1;

  MINUTES
-
   13
   55
   65
  210




Brian P. MacLean
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Robert,

That won't work.  Decode works like a switch statement.  If condition 1
then
value 1.  You can't imbed logic operators therein.

DickG.

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Date:   5/20/2002 7:08 AM

I was wondering if anyone might have tried this before, because I can't
seem to
get it to work.  I'd like to be able to determine which unit of measure to
concatenate to a value by using a decode statement in the query.  I have a
column in the database that stores time in minutes, and I'd like to be able
to
show the output in minutes if the value is less than 60, but in hours (such
as
3.27 hours) if the value is greater than 60.  So far I've tried the
following
statement, but it seems to be blowing up on the first comparison operator:

SELECT decode(in_value, to_char(to_number(in_value) = to_number('60')),
to_char(in_value)||' minutes', to_char(to_number(in_value)  to_number
('60')),
to_char(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
  FROM dual
/

I'm selecting from dual just until I can get the query working at all.  Is
what
I'm trying to do even possible?  Any help or ideas would be greatly
appreciated.
 Thanks in advance.

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Re: Upgrade and it says it doesn't need it

2002-05-20 Thread Tim Gorman

log a tar...

sorry...

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 Unfortunately - this is what I'm having a problem with.  I did install
with
 OUI.  The log files from that installation are in the oraInventory
 directory.  Subsequently, I installed some client software (precompilers)
on
 the machine.  The oraInventory only shows the client installation, not the
 real server.

 And...I have confirmed - the oraInst.loc file does correctly point to
 the oraInventory directory.

 It just looks as though the installer process didn't update the
oraInventory
 correctly.  Now I'm afraid I'm Screwed on the upgrade!

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 I'm guessing that the 9.0.1.0 server software was not installed using the
 Oracle installer?  Did you tar it over from somewhere else?

 For a server installed using the installer, you'll find a file in
 /var/opt/oracle named oraInst.loc, which contains the name of the
 directory containing the Oracle Universal Installer's oraInventory
 directory.

 Your installer running the 9.0.1.2 patch is checking for that file in
 /var/opt/oracle and probably not finding it.  Or, it is finding it and
the
 oraInventory directory, but the inventory says that only the client has
 been installed...

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  HI -
 
  I'm trying to upgrade my database from 9.0.1.0 to 9.0.1.2 (Sun Solaris).
  The installer tells me there are no files that need to be applied.  When
I
  click on installed products, under 9i it only show the client install,
not
  the enterprise edition server.  Does anyone know what I can do to get
the
  installer to realize that I do have the server installed?
 
  Thank you -
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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Reddy, Madhusudana

Would you post the parameter file ??

Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment should
help you to have faster export ,
and also you can have a look at the DISK I/O stats ( verify the OFA is same
on both the boxes ).

Thanks,
Madhu

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Hi guys,

I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
processors and more memory space)

I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database in
the older machine,

When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when I
import to newer machine it was fast too, 

and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
using same export parameters in both servers)
Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (


- The no of records are the same for both machines
- v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1



Thank you


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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

oh I never said it was an honor to be considered a man.


--- Ruth Gramolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This inquiring mind want's to know, what is honorary about being
 thought of
 as a man instead of the women you are?
 Ruth.
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 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
 
 
 
 
  as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
 consider
  honorary men?  :)
 
  What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are
 for
 being an
  honorary man.
 
  Inquiring minds want to know :)
 
  Rachel
 
 
 
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  Larry Elkins wrote:
  
   The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
 running
   around ;-)
 
   That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
 many
  are like honorary men.
 
 
  Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
  curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
 hash
  anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
 fast
  full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans
 (more or
  less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
 equations.
  The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number
 of
  rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
 equations
  or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
  Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts,
 but I
  have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
 either.
  Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works
 on
  the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
  because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
  (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex
 approach
  and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
 and
  the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions
 I
  shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
  rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional
 problems
  when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious
 choice
  but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
 my
  logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
 days.
  Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take
 into
  account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
  tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but
 I
  have not tested anything yet.
  I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
  blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
  doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details
 about
  Pierce? Pretty active there.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Stephane Faroult
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wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Baumgartel

I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by event 10046
trace name context forever,level 8 (this dumps all wait events to a
file).  Has anyone written such a formatter, or have information on
one?  Thanks.



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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

it's joe's list

--- Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One makes a large cash offering to the Oracle Goddess...
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:34 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 How does one get on the OT list???
 
 -Original Message-
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 
 as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
 consider
 honorary men?  :)
 
 What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
 being
 an
 honorary man.
 
 Inquiring minds want to know :)
 
 Rachel
 
 
 
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 ||  sfaroult@orio|
 ||  le.com   |
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 ||  05/18/2002   |
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   |   you dont want to think ? |
   |
 
 
 
 
 Larry Elkins wrote:
 
  The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
 running
  around ;-)
 
  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
 many
 are like honorary men.
 
 
 Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
 curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
 hash
 anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
 fast
 full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more
 or
 less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
 equations.
 The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
 rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
 equations
 or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
 Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but
 I
 have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
 either.
 Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
 the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
 because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
 (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
 and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
 and
 the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
 shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
 rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
 when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
 but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
 my
 logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
 days.
 Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
 account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
 tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
 have not tested anything yet.
 I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
 blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
 doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
 Pierce? Pretty active there.
 
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Re: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Tim Gorman
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB



...speaking of $0.02, make sure that the 
utilityfrom SQL Server that produces the "flat" file does not perform 
unsolicited rounding of numerics. I was recently burned on a 
Sybase-Oracle conversion when the BCP (a.k.a. "bulk copy") and ISQL (a.k.a. 
SQL*Plus in Sybase) utilities each implicitly round numeric data to the 2nd 
digit to the right of the decimal. Since SQL Server comes from Sybase, 
beware...

In ISQL, I could just divide everything by 1. 
to get the true precision, but BCP doesn't provide that option. 
Instead,Iwrote a shell script to query the Sybase data dictionary to 
generate the "C" program sources for each table. The Sybase APIs were 
perfectly capable of handling numeric precision, but the %^#* Sybase 
developers who wrote ISQL and BCP were too lazy to use them correctly. 
Since the ODBC driver from MS-Access seemed to use the API correctly (i.e. no 
implicit rounding seen), then maybe the MS folks are more 
diligent...

Just FYI...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  KENNETH JANUSZ 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:08 AM
  Subject: Re: SQL Server to Oracle 
DB
  
  Richard:
  
  Yes. The way I've done it in the past is to generate 
  tilde (~) delimited flat files and then load the data into Oracle via 
  SQL*Loader. You have to do a mapping first before using SQL*Loader. Then 
  you have to write scripts for each table you are loading. I recommend 
  the O'Reilly book Oracle SQL*Loader, The Definitive Guide. This is a 
  process that can take time especially if the Oracle application needs data 
  that the old legacy DB doesn't provide.
  
  My $0.02 worth,
  Ken Janusz, CPIM
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Richard Huntley 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:03 
AM
Subject: SQL Server to Oracle DB

Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from 
tables in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 

Thanks. 



RE: Oracle web application

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Aida - Now that you have described your situation more clearly, I would
second the advice you received from Sean - use PHP if you can. While this
task can be accomplished with just about any language, with some choices you
will spend a lot of time getting everything set up. And you probably would
have to use more than one language to accomplish some aspects. PHP was
pretty much designed for quick Web pages and database interactivity. Some
people here have been very successful with it. As a bonus, it sounds like
you are already pretty accomplished in PHP. May the force be with you!
(guess which movie I saw this weekend).
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi Dennis, my name is Aida, (my fault about this)

Keith is my husband (I love to bother him).

Thank you for answering to me, I really appreciate it.

Let me explain more clear the situation.

I am a graduate student at Stephen F. Austin State University in computer
science department.

I will graduate next summer. As part of my graduation the department has
assigned me the project

of Computer Science Programming Contest that is done every year. The way the
contest is organized

is this: There is a web site in which the student can register in teams of 3
or 4, they need to give their info

(first name, last name, phone, class, address, for each member, the name of
the team) and a user name

and password is assigned to each team so they can come back and change it at
any time.

At the contest day, to each time is given their account on TITANS and
password and directions how

they can send their answers back by mail form their account to the jury.
Every team-member can program in

C, C++ or COBOL (languages that are taught at our university). After the
e-mail is sent, the judge sends

back the result of the answer.

The way that is done until last time is this. A faculty member used the PHP
to make the registration and

humans do all the other part. (this is what they want to avoid mainly and
this time I think they are

going to use also UNIX accounts for students)

I took an oracle class (is the first time that is offered) this spring and
they assigned me to do this project using oracle.

I have learned SQL and PL/SQL and some of the basics of Oracle. I have
designed some web sites before

with forms, but never any one in interaction with the user and a database.
That's why I need help for basically

everything. (even for the general concept). Should I still use PHP or is
there any better choice? This is my first

big question right now but to tell you the truth I have everything under
question mark. But one thing at a time

and I am hunting around to get more comfortable with this problem.

Thank you very much for your time

AIDA



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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 9:03 PM


 Keith - Usually you need to create some sort of application that will
 respond to user requests, extract data from Oracle, and format an HTML
page
 to send back to the user. That is basically what you described in your
 email. How that program interfaces to Oracle will depend on what
programming
 language you choose. Usually your program is executed by a software called
a
 web server or an application server. Before you need to worry about
 Oracle, you need to learn a lot more about Web programming. If by web
you
 mean the Internet, then you also need to learn about Web security. If your
 application is within your company intranet, then this concern isn't so
 significant.
 Suggestions: Find someone in your company that is an experienced Web
 programmer, and discuss your situation with them. That will teach you a
lot
 quicker.
 Go to http://www.google.com, and type terms like HTML Tutorial. A
 good site I found was http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/. This won't
 teach you about connecting to a database, but you've got learn the basics
 before you progress on to advanced topics.
 http://www.computerworld.com/departments/technology/quickstudies offers
 explanations of some of the important concepts so simple even a manager
can
 understand.
 If you encounter more specific questions, write back
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:43 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 hi,
 I am a beginner in Oracle and I need help.
 I need to implement a interactive connection of oracle with web. I need to
 save data from web to database, make a kind of processing and send a
 response to the web. I have no idea even how to make the implementation.
Can
 somebody help me ?

 Thanks


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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Seefelt, Beth


All you men on this list really need to get out more!! ;-) 

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


we want jpegs !!!

:-)

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Sent: 20 May 2002 17:03
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hehe...  I was thinking the same thing and decided not to pursue!
Thanks
for stepping up to make that request.  I don't look like a man, I don't
feel
like a man, have never been called one of the guys

Just curious too...  This is interesting!
Melanie Burns

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
consider
honorary men?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
being
an
honorary man.

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:

 The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
running
 around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

Stephane Faroult
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Re: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Hi:

Check 'itprof'  at http://www.ubtools.com
or
'Sparky'  at http://www.hotsos.com

I have used the first one found very good. 




--- Paul Baumgartel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by event 10046
 trace name context forever,level 8 (this dumps all wait events to a
 file).  Has anyone written such a formatter, or have information on
 one?  Thanks.
 
 
 

=
Have a nice day !!

Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan,
Bangalore, INDIA.

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RE: ORA-01722 Error after DBA changes

2002-05-20 Thread Sandeep Kurliye

Hi,

Not sure about exact reason. But I am also having similar condition like
yours. One of my customers was running 8.1.5 with Forms5. I upgraded his DB
to 8.1.7. And I started facing problem with some reports. I got answer from
Oracle saying - this combination is not certified. Oracle has done lots of
changes in Timestamp in 8.1.7 DB.

Not very sure, but just check whether Forms 6i is certified on 8.1.6 and
7.3.4 or not. 

Recompilation of all forms and reports can be done by using project builder.
But I'll prefer some DOS BATCH script.

 Create a file with .bat extension and put following line  run it
FOR %%I IN (*.FMB) DO {YOUR ORACLE HOME}\BIN\ifcmp60 %%I username/password
 End of script*

Same logic you can apply for recompiling reports.

HTH,
Sandeep.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:ORA-01722 Error after DBA changes

I have been getting a FRM-40735 WHEN-BUTTON-PRESSED trigger raised
unhandled exception ORA-01722 error.  The button calls a procedure in
the form.  Whenever this happens, I open up the form in Developer,
recompile it, generate a new .fmx file and everything works fine.  In
other words, no changes, just recompilling.  Do you have any idea why
this might be happening?

It seems to have started happening after I made some changes to the
database.  I was dropping and recreating some tables in order to change
size parameters and also change privileges.  Could this have had
anything do with the ORA-1722 error?

Right now, I know the fix but I am curious why I have to recompile
everything. This is with Developer 6i (6.0.8.10.3) and Oracle 7.3.4.
but it also happens against my Oracle 8.1.6 test database.

When I asked this question to Oracle support, they replied that it was
because by changing the database objects, the timestamp gets changed.
But this does not make sense to me since these forms are not being
stored in the database.  It also seems to me that of the forms that are
dependant of the tables that I changed, some have problems and others
do not.  Also, I suppose if this is true, I will have to recomplile
all of my reports also.  Anyone have hints or scripts that I might run
to help me narrow down so that I do not have to recompile ALL forms
and reports?

TIA, Wayne
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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Jeremiah Wilton

On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:

 Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
 should help you to have faster export ,

What do you mean assigning the big rollback segment?  How do you do
that to an export and what does it accomplish?

What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?

If I were the original poster, I'd just look at v$session_event for
the export session after several minutes of slowness.

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 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:43 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
 processors and more memory space)
 
 I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database in
 the older machine,
 
 When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when I
 import to newer machine it was fast too, 
 
 and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
 using same export parameters in both servers)
 Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (
 
 
 - The no of records are the same for both machines
 - v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1

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TEMP TABLESPACE

2002-05-20 Thread Hamid Alavi

Hi List,

I have two data files for my TEMP tablespace,  i just find out one of the
data file AUTO EXTEND is set to on is it right??
I beleive for TEMP tablespace autoextend shoudn't be ON, AM I RIGHT or NOT?
Now my data file almost full for TEMP tablespace how can I Clean it up, I
run 
ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP COALESCE   BUT STILL DATA FILE IS FULL
ORACLE 8.1.7.0 ON SUN SOLARIS

\THANKS ALLOT



Hamid Alavi
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Cell818 402-1987






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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Ruth Gramolini

But the original poster and some of the others seem to think that this would
be an honor...RBG
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:33 PM


 oh I never said it was an honor to be considered a man.


 --- Ruth Gramolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This inquiring mind want's to know, what is honorary about being
  thought of
  as a man instead of the women you are?
  Ruth.
  - Original Message -
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
 
 
  
  
   as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
  consider
   honorary men?  :)
  
   What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are
  for
  being an
   honorary man.
  
   Inquiring minds want to know :)
  
   Rachel
  
  
  
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   Larry Elkins wrote:
   
The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
  running
around ;-)
  
That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
  many
   are like honorary men.
  
  
   Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
   curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
  hash
   anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
  fast
   full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans
  (more or
   less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
  equations.
   The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number
  of
   rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
  equations
   or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
   Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts,
  but I
   have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
  either.
   Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works
  on
   the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
   because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
   (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex
  approach
   and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
  and
   the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions
  I
   shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
   rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional
  problems
   when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious
  choice
   but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
  my
   logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
  days.
   Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take
  into
   account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
   tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but
  I
   have not tested anything yet.
   I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
   blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
   doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details
  about
   Pierce? Pretty active there.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Stephane Faroult
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

What is 'get out more'?

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



All you men on this list really need to get out more!! ;-) 

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


we want jpegs !!!

:-)

-Original Message-
Sent: 20 May 2002 17:03
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hehe...  I was thinking the same thing and decided not to pursue!
Thanks
for stepping up to make that request.  I don't look like a man, I don't
feel
like a man, have never been called one of the guys

Just curious too...  This is interesting!
Melanie Burns

-Original Message-
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:23 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
consider
honorary men?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
being
an
honorary man.

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:

 The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
running
 around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

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OT: Ray Lane sighting

2002-05-20 Thread DENISE

Check out http://www.dominionpost.com

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2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

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Rachel   
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 One makes a large cash offering to the Oracle Goddess...
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 
 as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
 consider
 honorary men?  :)
 
 What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
 being
 an
 honorary man.
 
 Inquiring minds want to know :)
 
 Rachel
 
 
 
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 Larry Elkins wrote:
 
  The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
 running
  around ;-)
 
  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
 many
 are like honorary men.
 
 
 Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
 curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
 hash
 anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
 fast
 full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more
 or
 less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
 equations.
 The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
 rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
 equations
 or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
 Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but
 I
 have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
 either.
 Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
 the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
 because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
 (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
 and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
 and
 the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
 shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
 rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
 when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
 but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
 my
 logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
 days.
 Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
 account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
 tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
 have not tested anything yet.
 I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
 blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
 doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
 Pierce? Pretty active there.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Errors on Alert file

2002-05-20 Thread Ray Stell



It was Abby something.  Abby who?  Abby...Abby Normal that's it.



On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:38:25AM -0800, Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran wrote:
 ORA-00602 
 ORA-00602internal programming exception 
 Cause:An internal programming exception has occurred. 
 Action:Report this error as a program bug to Worldwide Customer Support. 
 
 
 nirmal.
 
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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Tkprof ??

I was just reading 9iR2 notes and it seems there is a new parameter for
tkprof 'wait events' that will list waits (if available) in the file per
cursor, very useful feature.

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I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by event 10046
trace name context forever,level 8 (this dumps all wait events to a
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one?  Thanks.



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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Mohammed . Ahsanuddin

If you are on 9i, tkprof now includes that functionality. Otherwise
hotsos.com is one of the source for such a tool.

Mohammed Ahsanuddin
Oracle DBA

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I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by event 10046
trace name context forever,level 8 (this dumps all wait events to a
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

Sigh no more, ladies, sigh nor more;
Men were deceivers ever;
One foot in sea and one on shore,
To one thing constant never;
Then sigh not so,
But let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny;
Converting all your sounds of woe
Into. Hey nonny, nonny.

Sing no more ditties, sing no mo,
Or dumps so dull and heavy;
The fraud of men was ever so,
Since summer first was leavy.
Then sigh not so, 
But let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny,
Converting all your sounds of woe
Into. Hey, nonny, nonny.

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
DBAElcom, Inc.
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oh I never said it was an honor to be considered a man.


--- Ruth Gramolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This inquiring mind want's to know, what is honorary about being
 thought of
 as a man instead of the women you are?
 Ruth.
 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
 
 
 
 
  as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
 consider
  honorary men?  :)
 
  What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are
 for
 being an
  honorary man.
 
  Inquiring minds want to know :)
 
  Rachel
 
 
 
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  ||  le.com   |
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  ||  11:13 AM |
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|   cc: (bcc: Rachel Carmichael) |
|   Subject: Re: Do you ever have days where |
|   you dont want to think ? |
|
 
 
 
 
  Larry Elkins wrote:
  
   The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
 running
   around ;-)
 
   That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
 many
  are like honorary men.
 
 
  Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
  curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
 hash
  anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
 fast
  full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans
 (more or
  less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
 equations.
  The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number
 of
  rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
 equations
  or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
  Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts,
 but I
  have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
 either.
  Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works
 on
  the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
  because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
  (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex
 approach
  and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
 and
  the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions
 I
  shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
  rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional
 problems
  when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious
 choice
  but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
 my
  logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
 days.
  Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take
 into
  account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
  tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but
 I
  have not tested anything yet.
  I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
  blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
  doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details
 about
  Pierce? Pretty active there.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Stephane Faroult
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Re: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Tim Gorman

ITRPROF from http://www.ubtools.com/products/itrprof/itrprof.html and I
believe that www.hotsos.com has a new 10046 trace analyzer as well...

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 I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by event 10046
 trace name context forever,level 8 (this dumps all wait events to a
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Yeah, so.  I would think for the right amount of money, he would put on a
wig and dress...

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it's joe's list

--- Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One makes a large cash offering to the Oracle Goddess...
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:34 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 How does one get on the OT list???
 
 -Original Message-
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 
 as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
 consider
 honorary men?  :)
 
 What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
 being
 an
 honorary man.
 
 Inquiring minds want to know :)
 
 Rachel
 
 
 
 |+---
 ||   |
 ||   |
 ||  sfaroult@orio|
 ||  le.com   |
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 ||  05/18/2002   |
 ||  11:13 AM |
 ||  Please   |
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 ||  ORACLE-L |
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   |   you dont want to think ? |
   |
 
 
 
 
 Larry Elkins wrote:
 
  The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
 running
  around ;-)
 
  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
 many
 are like honorary men.
 
 
 Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
 curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
 hash
 anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
 fast
 full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more
 or
 less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
 equations.
 The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
 rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
 equations
 or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
 Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but
 I
 have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
 either.
 Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
 the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
 because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
 (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
 and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
 and
 the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
 shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
 rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
 when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
 but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
 my
 logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
 days.
 Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
 account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
 tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
 have not tested anything yet.
 I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
 blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
 doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
 Pierce? Pretty active there.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

ah but who says Henry Higgins was right?


--- Stephane Faroult [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
 consider
  honorary men?  :)
  
  What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are
 for being an
  honorary man.
  
  Inquiring minds want to know :)
  
  Rachel
  
 
 Well, coming from me 'honorary man' is almost a compliment (also
 perhaps
 not totally in the context of nude sunbathing - I would not be
 totally
 opposed to chador in some cases on French beaches). What summarizes
 my
 thought best, and in a better way than I am able to put it, is
 probably
 this :
 
 http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/4575/mflaudrey7.html#A
 
 Now I think I'd better run for cover, even if the trouble-and-strife
 is
 not on the list ...
 
 You asked for it ;-).
 
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SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Hamid Alavi

HI,

IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCREASE THE SHARED_POOL_SIZE WITHOUT SHUT DOWN THE
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RE: TEMP TABLESPACE

2002-05-20 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

Hamid,

1) Do not let TEMP tablespace have autoextend set to on - my .02 is to never
have this set to on for any tablespace, but to monitor and expand as
necessary. Other DBAs like autoextend, so you may want that for other
tablespaces, but not for TEMP.

2) A nice trick to get TEMP cleared of allocated-but-no-longer-used space is
to set the next extent to, say 512MB (from say, 1024MB). This will cause all
space but what is being currently used to be wiped out. The set next extent
back to 1024 (or whatever it was before).

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Hi List,

I have two data files for my TEMP tablespace,  i just find out one of the
data file AUTO EXTEND is set to on is it right??
I beleive for TEMP tablespace autoextend shoudn't be ON, AM I RIGHT or NOT?
Now my data file almost full for TEMP tablespace how can I Clean it up, I
run 
ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP COALESCE   BUT STILL DATA FILE IS FULL
ORACLE 8.1.7.0 ON SUN SOLARIS

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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread JoJo Al-Zawawi

ROFL -- this whole thread has kept me cracking up all morning !!!

-- (Mrs.) JoJo  :D


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Sigh no more, ladies, sigh nor more;
Men were deceivers ever;
One foot in sea and one on shore,
To one thing constant never;
Then sigh not so,
But let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny;
Converting all your sounds of woe
Into. Hey nonny, nonny.

Sing no more ditties, sing no mo,
Or dumps so dull and heavy;
The fraud of men was ever so,
Since summer first was leavy.
Then sigh not so, 
But let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny,
Converting all your sounds of woe
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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Yes, upgrade to 9.0.1. Oops, you'll also have to shut down to do that. Well,
I guess the answer comes down to . . . . no.
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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

Hamid,

Check v$parameter table and it will tell you if a given parameter that is
used and/or defaulted, is system or session modifiable. Whether or not to
modify, if a given parameter is session or system modifiable, is left up to
the discretion and experience of the DBA.

By the way, the example I sent to you on TEMP tblspace - it should have been
in K, not MB; thus, change to 512K then back to 1024K, not MB. Sorry about
that!

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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Root, Melanie

No.  This is not one of the parameters that can be set on the fly...

Regards,
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Re: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still

The code to do this in Perl is trivial, and you get the bonus of complete 
control,
as well as the ability to generate sqlloader control and paramters files 
on the fly.

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...speaking of $0.02, make sure that the utility from SQL Server that 
produces the flat file does not perform unsolicited rounding of 
numerics.  I was recently burned on a Sybase-Oracle conversion when the 
BCP (a.k.a. bulk copy) and ISQL (a.k.a. SQL*Plus in Sybase) utilities 
each implicitly round numeric data to the 2nd digit to the right of the 
decimal.  Since SQL Server comes from Sybase, beware...
 
In ISQL, I could just divide everything by 1. to get the true 
precision, but BCP doesn't provide that option.  Instead, I wrote a shell 
script to query the Sybase data dictionary to generate the C program 
sources for each table.  The Sybase APIs were perfectly capable of 
handling numeric precision, but the %^#* Sybase developers who wrote 
ISQL and BCP were too lazy to use them correctly.  Since the ODBC driver 
from MS-Access seemed to use the API correctly (i.e. no implicit rounding 
seen), then maybe the MS folks are more diligent...
 
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Richard:
 
Yes.  The way I've done it in the past is to generate tilde (~) delimited 
flat files and then load the data into Oracle via SQL*Loader.  You have to 
do a mapping first before using SQL*Loader. Then you have to write scripts 
for each table you are loading.  I recommend the O'Reilly book Oracle 
SQL*Loader, The Definitive Guide.  This is a process that can take time 
especially if the Oracle application needs data that the old legacy DB 
doesn't provide.
 
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables in an SQL Server DB 
and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 
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Re: AQ using a trigger?

2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still

My limited knowledge of AQ would lead me to believe
that you're trying to reinvent the wheel.

Maybe you should spend more time on the AQ docs?

Jared





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Does anyone have experience with AQ tables?  I would like to put a trigger
on my AQ table so that when a message comes in, it will automatically fire
off a job to dequeue the message.  I opened a TAR and was told that I can
put a trigger on the table, but it's not recommended.  When I asked why,
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way
to handle the messages, but if it will cause problems, I'd like to know 
that
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Re: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still

No.

Jared





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Patch: 1951929

2002-05-20 Thread Ray Stell


Has anyone applied this?  The last sentence from support, copied
below, gives me the creeps:


Please go to the Oracle MetaLink ( http://metalink.oracle.com/ ) site
to download the patch referenced below.

Patch: 1951929 - RECIEVING MANY ORA-07445 [KQRGCU()+244]ERRORS

Customers are reminded that one-off Oracle Server patches are not
subject to the same rigorous level of testing as done for Oracle
Server patch sets.  Customers are encouraged to install and test this
patch in a test environment prior to full production implementation.
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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Stephane Faroult

Sherman, Paul R. wrote:
 
 Sigh no more, ladies, sigh nor more;
 Men were deceivers ever;
 One foot in sea and one on shore,
 To one thing constant never;
 Then sigh not so,
 But let them go,
 And be you blithe and bonny;
 Converting all your sounds of woe
 Into. Hey nonny, nonny.
 
 Sing no more ditties, sing no mo,
 Or dumps so dull and heavy;
 The fraud of men was ever so,
 Since summer first was leavy.
 Then sigh not so,
 But let them go,
 And be you blithe and bonny,
 Converting all your sounds of woe
 Into. Hey, nonny, nonny.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Paul Sherman
 DBAElcom, Inc.
 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

One woman is fair, yet I am well; another is wise, yet I am well;
another virtuous, yet I am well; but till all graces be in one woman,
one woman shall not come in my grace. Rich she shall be, that's certain;
wise, or I'll none; virtuous, or I'll never cheapen her; fair, or I'll
never look on her; mild, or come not near me; noble, or not I for an
angel; of good discourse, an excellent musician, and her hair shall be
of what colour it please God.

Time to move to the OT list, perhaps.
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Re: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ

All this coding stuff is fine if there is a one-to-one correlation between
the SQL Server tables and the Oracle tables. If not, then the first thing
that needs to be accomplished is mapping the SQL Server tables to Oracle.
This can be a fun job especially if data is required in Oracle that doesn't
exist in the old tables.

Ken Janusz, CPIM

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 The code to do this in Perl is trivial, and you get the bonus of complete
 control,
 as well as the ability to generate sqlloader control and paramters files
 on the fly.

 Jared Still
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 ...speaking of $0.02, make sure that the utility from SQL Server that
 produces the flat file does not perform unsolicited rounding of
 numerics.  I was recently burned on a Sybase-Oracle conversion when the
 BCP (a.k.a. bulk copy) and ISQL (a.k.a. SQL*Plus in Sybase) utilities
 each implicitly round numeric data to the 2nd digit to the right of the
 decimal.  Since SQL Server comes from Sybase, beware...

 In ISQL, I could just divide everything by 1. to get the true
 precision, but BCP doesn't provide that option.  Instead, I wrote a shell
 script to query the Sybase data dictionary to generate the C program
 sources for each table.  The Sybase APIs were perfectly capable of
 handling numeric precision, but the %^#* Sybase developers who wrote
 ISQL and BCP were too lazy to use them correctly.  Since the ODBC driver
 from MS-Access seemed to use the API correctly (i.e. no implicit rounding
 seen), then maybe the MS folks are more diligent...

 Just FYI...
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 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:08 AM

 Richard:

 Yes.  The way I've done it in the past is to generate tilde (~) delimited
 flat files and then load the data into Oracle via SQL*Loader.  You have to
 do a mapping first before using SQL*Loader. Then you have to write scripts
 for each table you are loading.  I recommend the O'Reilly book Oracle
 SQL*Loader, The Definitive Guide.  This is a process that can take time
 especially if the Oracle application needs data that the old legacy DB
 doesn't provide.

 My $0.02 worth,
 Ken Janusz, CPIM
 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:03 AM

 Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables in an SQL Server DB
 and insert into tables in an Oracle DB?
 Thanks.


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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Baumgartel

Unfortunately this is 8.1.7 (sorry I didn't specify).

A note on Metalink makes reference to a formatting utility but, of
course, neither includes nor specifies where to find said utility.

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DB Clone from RMAN backups

2002-05-20 Thread Marmdba

Hi all, 

I am trying to speed up refreshes of QA databases and am familiar with cloning 
databases using user managed backups (hot and cold). The problem is the organization I 
am currently with uses RMAN to manage the backups. The perform a level 0 once a month, 
level 1 once a week, level 2 daily. How/could I use these backups to clone the 
database to another environment? One of the db's that needs to be refreshed is approx. 
40gb and takes about 5 hours to import. The other db is 200+ gb and takes about 24 
hours to import. 

Any suggestions / strategies. Also, its a 24 x 7 environment.

TIA,

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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Baumgartel


--- Jeremiah Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
  should help you to have faster export ,
 
 What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?

it causes an error message!

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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Reddy, Madhusudana

The idea of huge rollback segment is just to eliminate the contention the
rollback segment. Well its not always applicable ( possible make sure all
the other applications are not used), but we can create a big rollback
segment and bring it on line and make other rollback segments offline, and
run the export . So definitely the big rollback segment will be used.

COMMIT=Y is not a parameter for export , instead good for import , its my
mistake.

Somewhere I have read that NFS Mounted file system will make the export
slower .

Thanks for your correction,
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On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:

 Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
 should help you to have faster export ,

What do you mean assigning the big rollback segment?  How do you do
that to an export and what does it accomplish?

What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?

If I were the original poster, I'd just look at v$session_event for
the export session after several minutes of slowness.

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 I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
 processors and more memory space)
 
 I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database
in
 the older machine,
 
 When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when
I
 import to newer machine it was fast too, 
 
 and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
 using same export parameters in both servers)
 Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (
 
 
 - The no of records are the same for both machines
 - v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1

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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread raja

Only on 9.0.1 and above

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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

My favorite Shakespearean (sp?) play

and yes, I think we should move this  to the OT list :)


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  To one thing constant never;
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  But let them go,
  And be you blithe and bonny;
  Converting all your sounds of woe
  Into. Hey nonny, nonny.
  
  Sing no more ditties, sing no mo,
  Or dumps so dull and heavy;
  The fraud of men was ever so,
  Since summer first was leavy.
  Then sigh not so,
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 wise, or I'll none; virtuous, or I'll never cheapen her; fair, or
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RE: Patch: 1951929

2002-05-20 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: Patch: 1951929





This pretty much boilerplate text I've seen
on LOTS of patches from Oracle.



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Has anyone applied this? The last sentence from support, copied
below, gives me the creeps:



Please go to the Oracle MetaLink ( http://metalink.oracle.com/ ) site
to download the patch referenced below.


Patch: 1951929 - RECIEVING MANY ORA-07445 [KQRGCU()+244]ERRORS


Customers are reminded that one-off Oracle Server patches are not
subject to the same rigorous level of testing as done for Oracle
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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Sunil_Nookala

No, it is NOT.

Connected to:
Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production

  1  select name, ISSES_MODIFIABLE, ISSYS_MODIFIABLE from v$parameter
  2* where name like'shared_pool_size%'
SQL /

NAME ISSES
ISSYS_MOD
 -
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shared_pool_size FALSE
IMMEDIATE


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Only on 9.0.1 and above

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RE: Korn Shell Sqlplus

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Michael - I have noticed the same issue you describe - ie. after the sqlplus
process terminates, the shadow process continues to completion (assuming
there is a COMMIT in the script). We are also on Compaq Tru64, but Oracle
8.1.6. I have only noticed it, not had a reason to dig in and investigate. I
suspect that the shadow process is getting reparented to root. You might
consider changing your kill to a kill -9. Or locate the shadow process and
kill it, maybe first. Just some ideas, hopefully someone has more direct
experience.
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 Maybe one of you has some inspiration. 
 
Environment: Compaq Tru64 5.1;  Oracle 8.1.7.3

 The concept is for a parent Korn shell to spawn a sqlplus child in
 background (which will validate table structure via a PL/SQL Block) then
 wait for a fixed time period before stopping/killing the sqlplus child.
 After the sqlplus child is stopped some follow-up processing is needed to
 bookmark where the sqlplus processing has stopped.
 
 My quick test script so far look like:
 #!/bin/ksh
 echo Starting val_asc, spawning at  $(date)  val_asc.out
 sqlplus x/ @val_asc3.pls  val_asc3.log 
valpid=$!
 sleep 240
 kill -KILL  %1
 echo Leaving val_asc at  $(date)  val_asc.out
 exit
 
When the sqlplus line runs it starts 2 processes:
 oragdv   169035 167185  0.0 10:00:20 pts/10:00.18 sqlplus
 oragdv   169652 169035  0.0 10:00:22 ??   0:00.13 oracleGDV
 (DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=YES). . .
 
The problem is when the kill command executes, only the first of these 2
processes is killed immediately.  The 2nd (with the PPID at 1) continues
processing until the PL/SQL Block completes (including database updates)
before it terminates.

 Here's the question.  Is there a straightforward way to terminate that 2nd
 process before starting post processing?
 
 Any suggestions would be appreciated as I have been bashing my head
 against the proverbial wall for several days now  ;)
I have used the $! parameter to id the sqlplus PID and have been fiddling
with ps  awk to try and obtain the 2nd process's PID but have yet to be
successful

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RE: DB Clone from RMAN backups

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Michele - Have you looked at the RMAN DUPLICATE command?
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Hi all, 

I am trying to speed up refreshes of QA databases and am familiar with
cloning databases using user managed backups (hot and cold). The problem is
the organization I am currently with uses RMAN to manage the backups. The
perform a level 0 once a month, level 1 once a week, level 2 daily.
How/could I use these backups to clone the database to another environment?
One of the db's that needs to be refreshed is approx. 40gb and takes about 5
hours to import. The other db is 200+ gb and takes about 24 hours to import.


Any suggestions / strategies. Also, its a 24 x 7 environment.

TIA,

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Re: Korn Shell Sqlplus

2002-05-20 Thread Stephane Faroult

Hand, Michael T wrote:
 
  Maybe one of you has some inspiration.
 
 Environment: Compaq Tru64 5.1;  Oracle 8.1.7.3
 
  The concept is for a parent Korn shell to spawn a sqlplus child in
  background (which will validate table structure via a PL/SQL Block) then
  wait for a fixed time period before stopping/killing the sqlplus child.
  After the sqlplus child is stopped some follow-up processing is needed to
  bookmark where the sqlplus processing has stopped.
 
  My quick test script so far look like:
  #!/bin/ksh
  echo Starting val_asc, spawning at  $(date)  val_asc.out
  sqlplus x/ @val_asc3.pls  val_asc3.log 
 valpid=$!
  sleep 240
  kill -KILL  %1
  echo Leaving val_asc at  $(date)  val_asc.out
  exit
 
 When the sqlplus line runs it starts 2 processes:
  oragdv   169035 167185  0.0 10:00:20 pts/10:00.18 sqlplus
  oragdv   169652 169035  0.0 10:00:22 ??   0:00.13 oracleGDV
  (DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=YES). . .
 
 The problem is when the kill command executes, only the first of these 2
 processes is killed immediately.  The 2nd (with the PPID at 1) continues
 processing until the PL/SQL Block completes (including database updates)
 before it terminates.
 
  Here's the question.  Is there a straightforward way to terminate that 2nd
  process before starting post processing?
 
  Any suggestions would be appreciated as I have been bashing my head
  against the proverbial wall for several days now  ;)
 I have used the $! parameter to id the sqlplus PID and have been fiddling
 with ps  awk to try and obtain the 2nd process's PID but have yet to be
 successful
 
  Michael Hand
 Polaroid Corp
 


Michael,

  Killing Oracle server processes is definitely bad manners. Especially
if you are using MTS. Even if you are not, the proper way to kill an
Oracle process is to use ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION. I think that you
should use the DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO package to set something like 'Hey!
Shoot me!' in your CLIENT_INFO column in V$PROCESS - it would make it
easier to another process to log as DBA, spot the process and bang.
  Another thing that you might want to explore are profiles - you can
define and set a profile with limits to suit your needs, and let Oracle
do the dirty work.

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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Paul:

I think you are talking about the support tool TRCSUMMARY. IT is a perl
script from oracle Support. You can get it externally if you have some
friends in Oracle Support ;)

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 A note on Metalink makes reference to a formatting utility but, of
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Have a nice day !!

Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan,
Bangalore, INDIA.

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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: SHARED POOL SIZE





The value of IMMEDIATE in the ISSYS_MODIFIABLE column
means that it IS modifiable and takes effect
immediately.



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No, it is NOT.


Connected to:
Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production


 1 select name, ISSES_MODIFIABLE, ISSYS_MODIFIABLE from v$parameter
 2* where name like'shared_pool_size%'
SQL /


NAME ISSES
ISSYS_MOD
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shared_pool_size FALSE
IMMEDIATE



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Only on 9.0.1 and above


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No.


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IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCREASE THE SHARED_POOL_SIZE WITHOUT SHUT DOWN THE
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rodd Holman




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How does one get on the OT list???

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
honorary men?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for being
an
honorary man.

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:

 The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
 around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

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DECODE HELP

2002-05-20 Thread Viktor

Hello all,

This has probably been discussed here before and I'm
sorry if I'm repeating this. But I'd very much
appreciate if someone could show me how to use DECODE
to select a MAX date where records are like this:

PRIM. KEY  FIRST_DATE SEC_DATE   THIRD_DATE
JO001599O 12/14/2000 03/23/2001 05/21/2001 
JO001620L12/27/2000 05/16/2001 

The first_date, sec_date and third_date may or may not
exist; either one of the dates will be there. I need
to come up with another column LATEST_DATE which will
show the latest date of the 3.

Thanks very much in advance!


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Re: 9i r2

2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still

Someone at Oracle has modified the login procedures for 
download.oracle.com, 
as wget no longer works with -http-user and -http-password from this site.

So, you get to do it from a browser.  What fun.

Jared





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2 of the files downloaded, will be loading it up today,. woohoo, 
 
can anyone say crash and burn, bwahahahahahaha
 
 
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Re: oracle job question

2002-05-20 Thread BigP

What if I have jobs scheduled at 2:15 , 2:30 , 3:00  . Will oracle run them
all at once if database is up at 4:00 .
-Ajay

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  BigP wrote:
 
  Hi List ,
  I have a question regarding oracle database job . I have a database
  job which runs everyday at 3pm . Due to some reason database was
  shutdown between 2-4 pm . What will happen to that job . Will oracle
  run this job after restaring database ?
 
  Thanks in advace for your answers
  Bp

 Yes. Can be a big problem if you have a dozen jobs which were carefully
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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Jeremiah Wilton

On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:

 The idea of huge rollback segment is just to eliminate the contention the
 rollback segment. Well its not always applicable ( possible make sure all
 the other applications are not used), but we can create a big rollback
 segment and bring it on line and make other rollback segments offline, and
 run the export . So definitely the big rollback segment will be used.

Used for what?  Are you talking about constructing consistent reads?
If so, then that shouldn't be necessary on any significant scale if
we, as you suggest, make sure all the other applications are not
used.

Even if concurrent access is allowed (as it should be) during export,
why would constructing consistent reads from a variety of rollback
segments cause contention conpared to constructing the same
consistent reads from one big rollback segment?  What are you trying
to accomplish with the big rollback segment?

What do you think the rollback segments are being used for by an
export?

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 On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:
 
  Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
  should help you to have faster export ,
 
 What do you mean assigning the big rollback segment?  How do you do
 that to an export and what does it accomplish?
 
 What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?
 
 If I were the original poster, I'd just look at v$session_event for
 the export session after several minutes of slowness.
 
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  I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
  processors and more memory space)
  
  I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database
 in
  the older machine,
  
  When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when
 I
  import to newer machine it was fast too, 
  
  and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
  using same export parameters in both servers)
  Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (
  
  
  - The no of records are the same for both machines
  - v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1

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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

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Paul - We had this discussion last week, so you can probably search the
archives and get answers. What I received from the discussion is that it is
probably simple to create a simple trace file formatter, but that won't
account for all the nuances in the trace files. The people that have
developed the trace file formatters have devoted an enormous amount of time
learning the subtleties and understanding the inconsistencies in the files.
Obviously, they deserve to be compensated for their effort, and I don't
think they are asking for large amounts of money by any means. 
But I expect that you can do some experimenting on your own,
learning the basics, and it will probably give you a better appreciation for
what Cary has gone through.
Dennis Williams
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Thanks for all the replies.  I was hoping to find a simple user-written
script that didn't require signing up for a fee-based service, though. 
I guess there aren't any available.


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 Check 'itprof'  at http://www.ubtools.com
 or
 'Sparky'  at http://www.hotsos.com
 
 I have used the first one found very good. 
 


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Re: DECODE HELP

2002-05-20 Thread Ron Thomas


Why use decode.  Look up the greatest sql function.

select prim_key, greatest(first_date,sec_date,third_date) from your_table.

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Hello all,

This has probably been discussed here before and I'm
sorry if I'm repeating this. But I'd very much
appreciate if someone could show me how to use DECODE
to select a MAX date where records are like this:

PRIM. KEY  FIRST_DATE SEC_DATE   THIRD_DATE
JO001599O 12/14/2000 03/23/2001 05/21/2001
JO001620L12/27/2000 05/16/2001

The first_date, sec_date and third_date may or may not
exist; either one of the dates will be there. I need
to come up with another column LATEST_DATE which will
show the latest date of the 3.

Thanks very much in advance!


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