RE: SQL query

2002-07-13 Thread Abdul Aleem

At SQL*Plus it is the same command
Describe or desc and name of the table

You also need to be connected to the database

HTH
Aleem
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Subject:SQL query


I am using an Oracle database running in Linux. I would like to 
view the description of a table. For ex., if there is a table called 
'person'. I would like to see the names of the columns in this table, 
their datatypes and such other details. In other dbmss like mysql a 
command 'describe tablename' gives the information. What is the 
equivalent in Oracle? 

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RE: SQL query

2002-07-13 Thread Vandana


I am sorry for not being precise in my question. I would like to 
view the primary key, foreign key and other 'constraints' information of 
my table. While this could be viewed with 'desc' in other dbmss, this 
information is not provided with the 'desc' in oracle. With what command 
can I view it in Oracle?

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Abdul Aleem wrote:

 At SQL*Plus it is the same command
 Describe or desc and name of the table
 
 You also need to be connected to the database
 
 HTH
 Aleem
  -Original Message-
 Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:53 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  SQL query
 
 
   I am using an Oracle database running in Linux. I would like to 
 view the description of a table. For ex., if there is a table called 
 'person'. I would like to see the names of the columns in this table, 
 their datatypes and such other details. In other dbmss like mysql a 
 command 'describe tablename' gives the information. What is the 
 equivalent in Oracle? 
 
 

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RE: SQL query

2002-07-13 Thread Arslan Dar
Title: RE: SQL query





Same


Desc TableName



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-Original Message-
From: Vandana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:53 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: SQL query




 I am using an Oracle database running in Linux. I would like to 
view the description of a table. For ex., if there is a table called 
'person'. I would like to see the names of the columns in this table, 
their datatypes and such other details. In other dbmss like mysql a 
command 'describe tablename' gives the information. What is the 
equivalent in Oracle? 





Re: Re: Help me tuning the log file sync wait event

2002-07-13 Thread chaos

Bunyamin Karadeniz£¬



ÔÚ 2002-07-12 01:48:00 You wrote:
Hi ,
You encounter log file sync and log file parallel write  events .
This can be because of a slow device on which redo log files are on . OR
your redo log sizing is bad.
hi, you said the redo log size have something to do with this log file sync wait 
event? I do not understand it, can you explain it to me?
Maybe my log buffer is too big, now it is 2M in size. But when it was 1M, i see much 
wait time for log buffer space:(, so wondering whether downsize the log buffer.
Thanks for your suggestions.

Good luck!

chaos
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zhu chao
DBA of Eachnet.com
86-021-32174588-667


Bunyamin Karadeniz
Oracle DBA
Havelsan A.S. Eskisehir yolu 7.km
Ankara / Turkey
Tel : +90 535 3357729



- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:33 AM


 hi, dbas:
 One of the database i manage face a serious wait event, log file sync.
This is a big and busy oltp system, and using disk array of Sun T3 with
raid-5. We are using Veritas QuickIO for datafile and redo log files.
 The pressure on the database is growing fast, and more and more the redo
log becomes the bottleneck of the database.
 Here is some data showing the fact:



 2002/05/03
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait %
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt
Time
    ---

 log file sync  82,244   92,442
33.68
 db file sequential read   298,301   80,719
29.41
 log file parallel write81,849   36,989
13.48
 db file parallel write  5,427   33,615
12.25
 control file parallel write 4,6736,104
2.22


 2002/05/07
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait %
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt
Time
    ---

 log file sync   6,352,383   15,785,313
40.09
 db file sequential read26,862,699   12,538,922
31.85
 log file parallel write 5,971,2293,990,066
10.13
 db file parallel write290,4793,164,391
8.04
 db file scattered read  1,749,137  814,981
2.07

 2002/05/21
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait %
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt
Time
    ---

 log file sync   2,207,6096,688,751
59.47
 log file parallel write 2,044,9771,385,379
12.32
 db file parallel write103,1551,203,077
10.70
 db file sequential read 8,772,9081,088,922
9.68
 log buffer space3,284  222,604
1.98

 2002/05/28
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait %
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt
Time
    ---

 log file sync   2,247,585   20,529,779
63.71
 db file parallel write441,0524,377,899
13.59
 log file parallel write 1,724,0893,806,535
11.81
 db file sequential read 8,854,5252,044,020
6.34
 enqueue78,759  592,411
1.84

 2002/07/04
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait %
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt
Time
    ---

 log file sync   3,838,694   13,158,371
63.28
 db file sequential read 2,189,8632,401,275
11.55
 log file parallel write 3,401,0352,098,018
10.09
 db file parallel write 97,0861,503,608
7.23
 enqueue71,251  432,706
2.08

 2002/07/11
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait %
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt
Time
    ---

 log file sync 453,8629,679,513
68.11
 db file sequential read  

Re: SQL query

2002-07-13 Thread ltiu

select * from dba_cons_columns;



On Saturday 13 July 2002 01:08, Vandana wrote:
 I am sorry for not being precise in my question. I would like to
 view the primary key, foreign key and other 'constraints' information of
 my table. While this could be viewed with 'desc' in other dbmss, this
 information is not provided with the 'desc' in oracle. With what command
 can I view it in Oracle?

 On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Abdul Aleem wrote:
  At SQL*Plus it is the same command
  Describe or desc and name of the table
 
  You also need to be connected to the database
 
  HTH
  Aleem
   -Original Message-
  Sent:   Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:53 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject:SQL query
 
 
  I am using an Oracle database running in Linux. I would like to
  view the description of a table. For ex., if there is a table called
  'person'. I would like to see the names of the columns in this table,
  their datatypes and such other details. In other dbmss like mysql a
  command 'describe tablename' gives the information. What is the
  equivalent in Oracle?
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Re: Re: Help me tuning the log file sync wait event

2002-07-13 Thread chaos

Connor McDonald£¬



ÔÚ 2002-07-12 02:33:00 You wrote:
Some suggestions

a) Check your commit frequency - if you're committing
like mad then this is a great way to over stress redo
logging operations.
Yes, i check the statspack report and find there is about 20 commits/second in may, 
and now there is 40 commits/second these days. I do not know whether this is too much. 
THis is  a busy oltp system,and the trend is that there will be more and more 
transactions per second, painful


b) Check the size of the average redo write.  If
they're small, you might get some benefit by
allocation write cache in the T3 to the redo logs (if
thats possible) to batch up the writes
The average redo size per transaction is quite small, as i can see it from the 
statspack,
~Per Second   Per Transaction
   ---   ---
  Redo size: 82,547.28  2,247.16
per transaction is 2kbytes in size. I will try to modify the T3 cache policy. and see 
if this helps.It can be modified when it is running, as the document said, but my sa 
do not dare to modify it as i had requested.:(, maybe we have to try it.

oracle@main-db1$sar -d 2 2

SunOS main-db1 5.7 Generic_106541-14 sun4u07/13/02

22:07:33   device%busy   avque   r+w/s  blks/s  avwait  avserv

22:07:35 ssd0,e  10020.7 1993189 0.0   104.4
This is the most busy time in the day for the system, and this device ssd0,e 
is for the redo log volumn, 3189blocks/200=16blocks/second, that means 8KBytes per 
write.This is some small write, but still much greate than the 2k per transaction. 
why? other wasted log because of the too large log_buffer_size?

(there should be no read for redo log, right, unless it is being archived, so all 
write).


c) Look at means at reducing the amount of redo log
your're generating eg transaction auditing etc
This seems hard, we do not have much other information other than the transaction data.

Thanks so much for your help, and your site:)



Good luck!

chaos
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zhu chao
DBA of Eachnet.com
86-021-32174588-667

hth
connor

 --- chaos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hi, dbas:
  One of the database i manage face a serious wait
 event, log file sync. This is a big and busy oltp
 system, and using disk array of Sun T3 with raid-5.
 We are using Veritas QuickIO for datafile and redo
 log files.
 The pressure on the database is growing fast, and
 more and more the redo log becomes the bottleneck of
 the database.
 Here is some data showing the fact:



 2002/05/03
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~
  Wait % Total
 Event
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync
 82,244   92,442   33.68
 db file sequential read
 298,301   80,719   29.41
 log file parallel write
 81,849   36,989   13.48
 db file parallel write
 5,427   33,615   12.25
 control file parallel write
 4,6736,1042.22


 2002/05/07
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~
  Wait % Total
 Event
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync
 6,352,383   15,785,313   40.09
 db file sequential read
 26,862,699   12,538,922   31.85
 log file parallel write
 5,971,2293,990,066   10.13
 db file parallel write
 290,4793,164,3918.04
 db file scattered read
 1,749,137  814,9812.07

 2002/05/21
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~
  Wait % Total
 Event
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync
 2,207,6096,688,751   59.47
 log file parallel write
 2,044,9771,385,379   12.32
 db file parallel write
 103,1551,203,077   10.70
 db file sequential read
 8,772,9081,088,9229.68
 log buffer space
 3,284  222,6041.98

 2002/05/28
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~
  Wait % Total
 Event
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync
 2,247,585   20,529,779   63.71
 db file parallel write
 441,0524,377,899   13.59
 log file parallel write
 1,724,0893,806,535   11.81
 db file sequential read
 8,854,5252,044,0206.34
 enqueue
 78,759  592,4111.84

 2002/07/04
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~
  Wait % Total
 Event
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync
 3,838,694   13,158,371   63.28
 db file sequential read
 2,189,8632,401,275   11.55
 log file parallel write
 3,401,0352,098,018   10.09
 db file parallel write
 97,0861,503,6087.23
 enqueue
 71,251  432,7062.08

 2002/07/11
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~
  Wait

RE: Re: Help me tuning the log file sync wait event

2002-07-13 Thread Khedr, Waleed

 Definitely there is a bottleneck in disks or the response time is very
high.

Since you are using Raid-5, I would suggest as a test to make your redo
groups one member only or to move the other members to another raid while
keeping the log_buffer at 2M.

Regards,

Waleed


-Original Message-
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: 7/13/02 11:03 AM

Bunyamin Karadeniz,



? 2002-07-12 01:48:00 You wrote:
Hi ,
You encounter log file sync and log file parallel write  events .
This can be because of a slow device on which redo log files are on .
OR
your redo log sizing is bad.
hi, you said the redo log size have something to do with this log file
sync wait event? I do not understand it, can you explain it to me?
Maybe my log buffer is too big, now it is 2M in size. But when it was
1M, i see much wait time for log buffer space:(, so wondering whether
downsize the log buffer.
Thanks for your suggestions.

Good luck!

chaos
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

zhu chao
DBA of Eachnet.com
86-021-32174588-667


Bunyamin Karadeniz
Oracle DBA
Havelsan A.S. Eskisehir yolu 7.km
Ankara / Turkey
Tel : +90 535 3357729



- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:33 AM


 hi, dbas:
 One of the database i manage face a serious wait event, log file
sync.
This is a big and busy oltp system, and using disk array of Sun T3 with
raid-5. We are using Veritas QuickIO for datafile and redo log files.
 The pressure on the database is growing fast, and more and more the
redo
log becomes the bottleneck of the database.
 Here is some data showing the fact:



 2002/05/03
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait
%
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)
Wt
Time
  
 ---

 log file sync  82,244
92,442
33.68
 db file sequential read   298,301
80,719
29.41
 log file parallel write81,849
36,989
13.48
 db file parallel write  5,427
33,615
12.25
 control file parallel write 4,673
6,104
2.22


 2002/05/07
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait
%
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)
Wt
Time
  
 ---

 log file sync   6,352,383
15,785,313
40.09
 db file sequential read26,862,699
12,538,922
31.85
 log file parallel write 5,971,229
3,990,066
10.13
 db file parallel write290,479
3,164,391
8.04
 db file scattered read  1,749,137
814,981
2.07

 2002/05/21
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait
%
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)
Wt
Time
  
 ---

 log file sync   2,207,609
6,688,751
59.47
 log file parallel write 2,044,977
1,385,379
12.32
 db file parallel write103,155
1,203,077
10.70
 db file sequential read 8,772,908
1,088,922
9.68
 log buffer space3,284
222,604
1.98

 2002/05/28
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait
%
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)
Wt
Time
  
 ---

 log file sync   2,247,585
20,529,779
63.71
 db file parallel write441,052
4,377,899
13.59
 log file parallel write 1,724,089
3,806,535
11.81
 db file sequential read 8,854,525
2,044,020
6.34
 enqueue78,759
592,411
1.84

 2002/07/04
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait
%
Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)
Wt
Time
  
 ---

 log file sync   3,838,694
13,158,371
63.28
 db file sequential read 2,189,863
2,401,275
11.55
 log file parallel write 3,401,035
2,098,018
10.09
 db file parallel write 97,086
1,503,608
7.23
 enqueue71,251
432,706
2.08

 2002/07/11
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait
%
Total
 Event 

Re: SQL query

2002-07-13 Thread ltiu

select object_name 
from all_objects
where
lower(object_name)
like
'%cons%';

will give you all the data dictionary tables/views that deals with constraints

ltiu

On Saturday 13 July 2002 01:08, Vandana wrote:
 I am sorry for not being precise in my question. I would like to
 view the primary key, foreign key and other 'constraints' information of
 my table. While this could be viewed with 'desc' in other dbmss, this
 information is not provided with the 'desc' in oracle. With what command
 can I view it in Oracle?

 On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Abdul Aleem wrote:
  At SQL*Plus it is the same command
  Describe or desc and name of the table
 
  You also need to be connected to the database
 
  HTH
  Aleem
   -Original Message-
  Sent:   Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:53 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject:SQL query
 
 
  I am using an Oracle database running in Linux. I would like to
  view the description of a table. For ex., if there is a table called
  'person'. I would like to see the names of the columns in this table,
  their datatypes and such other details. In other dbmss like mysql a
  command 'describe tablename' gives the information. What is the
  equivalent in Oracle?
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RE: SQL query

2002-07-13 Thread Jack Silvey

Vandana,

Put this into a script, save to hard drive, and run
from sqlplus using @path\script:

SET ECHO OFF 
accept table_name prompt Enter the name of the Table
: 
set heading on 
set verify on 
set newpage 0 
ttitle 'Table Description - Space Definition' 
spool tfstbdsc.lst 
 
 
btitle off 
column nline newline 
set pagesize 54 
set linesize 78 
set heading off 
set embedded off 
set verify off 
accept report_comment char prompt 'Enter a comment to
identify system: ' 
select 'Date -  '||to_char(sysdate,'Day Ddth Month
 HH24:MI:SS'), 
'At-  '||'report_comment' nline, 
'Username  -  '||USER  nline 
from sys.dual 
/ 
prompt 
set embedded on 
 
 
set heading on 
set verify off 
column ts format a30 
column ta format a30 
column clu format a30 
column pcf format 90 
column pcu format 90 
column int format 99,999,999,990 
column mat format 99,999,999,990 
column inx format 99,999,999,990 
column nxt format 99,999,999,990 
column mix format 99,999,999,990 
column max format 99,999,999,990 
column pci format 90 
column num format 99,999,999,990 
column blo format 99,999,999,990 
column emp format 99,999,999,990 
column avg format 99,999,999,990 
column cha format 99,999,999,990 
column rln format 99,999,999,990 
column hdg format a30 newline 
set heading off 
select  'Table Name' hdg,   TABLE_NAME  ta, 
'Tablespace Name' hdg,  TABLESPACE_NAME ts, 
'Cluster Name' hdg, CLUSTER_NAMEclu, 
'% Free' hdg,   PCT_FREEpcf, 
'% Used' hdg,   PCT_USEDpcu, 
'Ini Trans' hdg,INI_TRANS   int, 
'Max Trans' hdg,MAX_TRANS   mat, 
'Initial Extent (K)' hdg,   INITIAL_EXTENT/1024 inx, 
'Next Extent (K)' hdg,  NEXT_EXTENT/1024nxt, 
'Min Extents' hdg,  MIN_EXTENTS mix, 
'Max Extents' hdg,  MAX_EXTENTS max, 
'% Increase' hdg,   PCT_INCREASEpci, 
'Number of Rows' hdg,   NUM_ROWSnum, 
'Number of Blocks' hdg, BLOCKS  blo, 
'Number of Empty Blocks' hdg,   EMPTY_BLOCKSemp, 
'Average Space' hdg,AVG_SPACE   avg, 
'Chain Count' hdg,  CHAIN_CNT   cha, 
'Average Row Length' hdg,   AVG_ROW_LEN rln 
from all_tables 
where TABLE_NAME=UPPER('table_name') 
/ 
set heading on 
set embedded off 
column cn format a30 heading 'Column Name' 
column fo format a15 heading 'Type' 
column nu format a8 heading 'Null' 
column nds format 99,999,999 heading 'No Distinct' 
column dfl format  heading 'Dflt Len' 
column dfv format a40 heading 'Default Value' 
ttitle 'Table Description - Column Definition' 
select  COLUMN_NAME cn, 
DATA_TYPE || 
decode(DATA_TYPE, 
'NUMBER', 
'('||to_char(DATA_PRECISION)|| 

decode(DATA_SCALE,0,'',','||to_char(DATA_SCALE))||')',

'VARCHAR2',  
'('||to_char(DATA_LENGTH)||')', 
'DATE','', 
'Error') fo, 
decode(NULLABLE,'Y','','NOT NULL') nu, 
NUM_DISTINCT nds, 
DEFAULT_LENGTH dfl, 
DATA_DEFAULT dfv 
FROM all_tab_columns 
where TABLE_NAME=UPPER('table_name') 
order by COLUMN_ID 
/ 
ttitle 'Table Constraints' 
set heading on 
set verify off 
column cn format a30 heading 'Primary Key' 
column cln format a45 heading 'Table.Column Name' 
column ct format a7 heading 'Type' 
column st format a7 heading 'Status' 
column ro format a30 heading 'Ref Owner|Constraint
Name' 
column se format a70 heading 'Criteria ' newline 
break on cn on st  
set embedded on 
prompt Primary Key 
prompt 
select  cns.CONSTRAINT_NAME cn, 
cns.TABLE_NAME||'.'||cls.COLUMN_NAME cln, 
initcap(cns.STATUS) st 
fromall_constraints cns, 
all_cons_columns cls 
where   cns.table_name=upper('table_name') 
and cns.owner=user 
and cns.CONSTRAINT_TYPE='P' 
and cns.constraint_name=cls.constraint_name 
order by cls.position 
/ 
prompt Unique Key 
prompt 
column cn format a30 heading 'Unique Key' 
select  cns.CONSTRAINT_NAME cn, 
cns.TABLE_NAME||'.'||cls.COLUMN_NAME cln, 
initcap(cns.STATUS) st 
fromall_constraints cns, 
all_cons_columns cls 
where   cns.table_name=upper('table_name') 
and cns.owner=user 
and cns.CONSTRAINT_TYPE='U' 
and cns.constraint_name=cls.constraint_name 
order by cls.position 
/ 
column cln format a38 heading 'Foreign Key' newline 
column clfn format a38 heading 'Parent Key' 
break on cn on st skip 1 
prompt Foreign Keys 
prompt 
select  cns.CONSTRAINT_NAME cn, 
initcap(STATUS) st, 

Re: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???

2002-07-13 Thread lembark


 We are considering both Red Hat and Suse distributions. We have discovered
 that regardless of the Linux distribution  support is generally
 expensive. That is not a particularly 'deal breaker' determining factor ..
 BUT .. I question the quality of support, the expediency of response and the
 'sense of urgency' experienced in the event of a critical application being
 down. I am familiar with limited Oracle-Linux implementations but not to the
 'industrial strength' degree that has been proposed (but already
 implemented) by our requesting user community.

The prices for 7x24 support are roughly the same for linux
and Solaris, HP-UX, or AIX. One other option is to buy the 
linux from IBM, with support. IBM seriously wants linux to
succeed on thier platforms and has good support.

Linux Care and Cygnus (now part of Red Hat) have been dealing
with mission-critical systems for some time and are capable
of fixing things. Obviously, setting up the system in a 
supportable fashion (e.g., supported hardware, up to date
drivers) will get you better response times.

 Is there a preferred distribution 

Sure: Red Hat preferrs that you buy theirs, SuSE wants your
money also.

Beyond that the kernel -- a.k.a., linux -- is something you
download from the net and compile locally. It has relatively
little effect on the difference between distributions. The 
real distinctions are in SysAdmin tools and the installation.
Most of it is a purely religious issue, all you can really do
is set up a few machines and try them.

So far as I know HP and IBM are both going with Red Hat as 
their base distro's and Oracle only supports Red Hat so that
is probably what you'll end up with. Eyeball the available
support contracts to be sure.

The net result will depend heavily on the hardware you're
running. For serious databases X86 platforms don't work
well because of hardware limitations. You are probably 
better off looking at the hardware first and then finding
out which software vendor is supported (probably Red Hat
for HP or IBM systems).

 My initial implementation is Suse 7.2 Enterprise on an IBM NetFinity, 4 cpu,
 2 Gbyte (memory) server using a Net Appliance Filer. There are six instances
 currently up and running. Thus far there have been no occurrences of
 swapping or i/o bottlenecks  but then the system has yet to be fully
 'stressed' and there are scalability concerns. The USER also wants to put
 Oracle 9iAS on the same box - I have managed to delay that for now, pending
 further research. I have had a couple of worrying episodes where a file
 system 'filled up' (on the Filer) that completely 'hung' the system 
 requiring a full system re-boot. Incidentally the aforementioned NetFinity
 implementation is 'a given' as the six instances have already been migrated
 from an aged and de-commissioned HP system. I have inherited the results and
 there is no going back at this juncture.

What file system are you running? Are you using LVM? devfs? 
A full system lockup in this case seems suspicious.



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(Fwd) ORACLE HAS ONCE AGAIN ROYALLY F*ED UP / Re: Looking for Forms 5

2002-07-13 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Assuming that you can somehow find the patch number (which is 
the same as the directory name), this is the new patch 
download facility:


ftp updates.oracle.com
cd 1647241
binary
get p1647241_210_WINNT.zip

---log file---
230- 
230-   Welcome to the Oracle Patch Download FTP Server
230- 
230- Access
230- --
230- Access to this system is limited to authorized users of Oracle
230- Metalink.  Unauthorized access to or use of this system is prohibited
230- and may subject you to civil and criminal prosecution.  Use of this
230- system may be monitored for the purpose of maintaining system
230- security, and system information may be accessed or disclosed under
230- limited circumstances.
230- 
230- All transmissions of Oracle software, documentation, source code,
230- technical data or technology must comply with Oracle's Export
230- Compliance Corporate Policy.  For more information, refer to Oracle's
230- Internal Export Control  Compliance Manual or contact your division's
230- Export Control Officer.
230- 
230- Usage
230- -
230- To download a patch, you must know the patch number. At any time you
230- can cd patch number and then ls to find a listing of patches
230- with that number. Enter quote site help to get this welcome banner
230- and additional helpful instructions.
230-  
230- Caveats
230- ---
230- - You may not list files or directories from the root directory.
230- - You must select binary transfers for this service to work. 
230  
ftp 
--- dir
PORT 192,168,0,2,13,85
200 PORT command OK.
--- LIST
150 Opening data connection for file listing.
total 1
226-Listing complete. Data connection has been closed.
226-It is the policy of this server to deny all
226-requests to list from the root directory.
226-Only diretories with names which match
226 bug numbers exist and there are too many to be listed.
ftp: 9 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 9000.00Kbytes/sec.
ftp --- quit
QUIT
221 Goodbye. Service closing connection.


---end log file---



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Of course the profoundly sick b*stards that designed the 
convoluted select 
criteria list made it impossible to find something simple like 
a list of 
patches for forms 5, you have to rummage around amongst 
various 
options/suboptions for Developer, Developer Suite, etc.

Another victim of Oracle's byzantine product naming/numbering 
scheme.

Note that a simple search for forms 5 patch returned a vast 
number of 
entries that do not appear to be relevant.

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!

Moving right along, I look in Top Tech Docs.

Internet Developer Tools seems the closest approximation???

(of course forms 5 may, or may not, be used for Internet, 
but nevermind.)

Ah yes, click Oracle Forms.

Under Patches, there is almost nothing useful!!!

AMAZING!

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!


Ah, but in 64630.1, there is a link to 74145.1 (Developer 
Version Number 
Matrix). hm... :

Forms 5.0.5 = Developer 2.0
Forms 5.0.6 = Developer 2.1

So, the 

TOra: Toolkit for Oracle

2002-07-13 Thread Don

I've seen some chatter here about Tora, but when I go to 
http://www.globecom.se/tora/ or http://www.globecom.net/tora/, all I get is 
a page with user comments and screen shots.

Where do I go to download the product?

Thx.

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Re: TOra: Toolkit for Oracle

2002-07-13 Thread Dennis M. Heisler

Go to the web site you mentioned below.  There is a link saying it's available
from sourceforge.  Click on it and download.

Dennis


Don wrote:

 I've seen some chatter here about Tora, but when I go to
 http://www.globecom.se/tora/ or http://www.globecom.net/tora/, all I get is
 a page with user comments and screen shots.

 Where do I go to download the product?

 Thx.

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RE: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?

2002-07-13 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

All Right, Larry. Since we have the test servers and databases; and my
Company still pays for 'doing Oracle' the 'scary' way, here is another
'scary thing' I did with SPFILE :) 
(9iR1 on HP)

SQL conn / as sysdba
Connected to an idle instance.
SQL startup using spfile 

ORACLE instance started.
Total System Global Area   72273416 bytes
Fixed Size   437768 bytes
Variable Size  37748736 bytes
Database Buffers   33554432 bytes
Redo Buffers 532480 bytes
Database mounted.
Database opened.
SQL show parameter db_cache_size
NAME TYPEVALUE
 ---
--
db_cache_sizebig integer 33554432

SQL !mv spfileKED9.ora spfileKED9.ora.bak  -- hide the spfile

SQL !ls -l *.ora
-rw-r--r--   1 oracle dba  12920 May 10  2001 initdw.ora

SQL alter system set db_cache_size=10M scope=both;   -- try to set a new
value 

System altered.   --- No problem?  

SQL show parameter db_cache_size

NAME TYPEVALUE
 ---
--
db_cache_sizebig integer 12582912   

-- New value in effect. 

SQL !ls -l *.ora
-rw-r--r--   1 oracle dba  12920 May 10  2001 initdw.ora 

-- Still no SFILE 
-- Now, why would not Oracle tell us that there was no spfile to process
SCOPE=BOTH ?

SQL c/both/spfile
  1* alter system set db_cache_size=10M scope=spfile
SQL /
alter system set db_cache_size=10M scope=spfile
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-27037: unable to obtain file status
HP-UX Error: 2: No such file or directory
Additional information: 3

--This is what should have happened with SCOPE=BOTH as well, or at least a
warning that SCOPE=BOTH was processed as SCOPE=MEMORY since there was no
SPFILE available. I would not have objected if Oracle re-recreated SPFILE in
the default location and told me so! 

If anyone has seen any mention of this particular behaviour of SCOPE=BOTH, I
would like to know the source of that information. I have searched Metalink,
Google but have not come across any. I have created an iTar with OWS.
Thanks. 

As I said before, SPFILE has some things that need to be made fool proof. 

This time I did not drink prior to doing this 'scary' stuff !!;-)  

Regards,

- Kirti 

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Elkins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:03 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?
 
 Man, it scares the heck out of me too that Jared and Kirti are actually
 doing Oracle -- I can't believe companies actually pay them ;-)
 
 And you two guys, and I'm talking to you Kirti and Jared, probably dig in
 and do things you shouldn't on test boxes just to see how things work and
 to
 learn. FWIW, I've heard rumors about other people doing similar things.
 You've probably even intentionally crashed a DB or pulled the plug just to
 see if you could recover. Shame on you two. You should both be banished
 from
 the list for doing such unconventional things ;-)
 
 And neither of you will ever be allowed close to a DB I deal with -- I'll
 call ltiu from now on ;-)
 
 Larry
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  Some of us have been around the block a few times.  :)
 
  Editing binary files is no big deal.
 
  You neophytes are all the same.
 
  Jared
 
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  You DBA's must be drunk.
 
  Spfiles are in binary format and if you open it in a text editor, all
 you
  see
  are weird characters.
 
  Man. You guys are actually doing Oracle? Scares me.
 
  ltiu
 
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RE: Re: Buffer busy waits are 10.96% of non-idle waits

2002-07-13 Thread Cary Millsap

One more detail: buffer busy waits is not an indication of competition
for a block on disk. It indicates competition for a block IN MEMORY.
More memory won't help, faster disks won't help. The cure is to make the
competing processes not compete.

The problem is usually a result of applications that have been
parallelized by running several similar jobs simultaneously, without
designing the jobs to work on different subsets of the data at the same
time.


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-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 4:14 PM
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 CLASS   COUNT   TIME
 -- -- --
 data block  131525173  225446798

 will not
 -- using bind variables instead of literals
 -- seperating tables and indexes to diferent tabelspace

 solve my problem  ?

No and no.  You have a very specific problem:  Two or more processes are
trying to access the exact same data block at the same time.  You are
part
way through diagnosing your problem but you haven't finished yet.

Your job now is to figure out some very specific things:  which data
block
the processes are waiting for, which table or index the block belongs
to,
which SQL statement keeps accessing that block so often, and why.

Diagnosis complete, you'll fix the problem.  But you can't do that until
you
know what the problem is.  Until you know which SQL statement is causing
the
problem and specifically what the nature of the problem is, you're not
going
to be able to fix it.

To figure out the next steps to take, which v$ views to query, what to
look
for, what the common problems are and how to fix them, do a Google
search
for:

buffer busy waits data block

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RE: Help me tuning the log file sync wait event

2002-07-13 Thread Cary Millsap

Also, as Anjo taught me a couple years ago, log file sync is
particularly susceptible to long latencies if you simply have long CPU
runqueues.


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-Original Message-
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Some suggestions

a) Check your commit frequency - if you're committing
like mad then this is a great way to over stress redo
logging operations.

b) Check the size of the average redo write.  If
they're small, you might get some benefit by
allocation write cache in the T3 to the redo logs (if
thats possible) to batch up the writes

c) Look at means at reducing the amount of redo log
your're generating eg transaction auditing etc

hth
connor

 --- chaos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hi, dbas:
   One of the database i manage face a serious wait
 event, log file sync. This is a big and busy oltp
 system, and using disk array of Sun T3 with raid-5.
 We are using Veritas QuickIO for datafile and redo
 log files. 
 The pressure on the database is growing fast, and
 more and more the redo log becomes the bottleneck of
 the database. 
 Here is some data showing the fact: 
 
 
 
 2002/05/03
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~   
  Wait % Total
 Event  
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync 
 82,244   92,442   33.68
 db file sequential read  
 298,301   80,719   29.41
 log file parallel write   
 81,849   36,989   13.48
 db file parallel write 
 5,427   33,615   12.25
 control file parallel write
 4,6736,1042.22
  
 
 2002/05/07
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~   
  Wait % Total
 Event  
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync  
 6,352,383   15,785,313   40.09
 db file sequential read   
 26,862,699   12,538,922   31.85
 log file parallel write
 5,971,2293,990,066   10.13
 db file parallel write   
 290,4793,164,3918.04
 db file scattered read 
 1,749,137  814,9812.07
 
 2002/05/21
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~   
  Wait % Total
 Event  
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync  
 2,207,6096,688,751   59.47
 log file parallel write
 2,044,9771,385,379   12.32
 db file parallel write   
 103,1551,203,077   10.70
 db file sequential read
 8,772,9081,088,9229.68
 log buffer space   
 3,284  222,6041.98
 
 2002/05/28
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~   
  Wait % Total
 Event  
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync  
 2,247,585   20,529,779   63.71
 db file parallel write   
 441,0524,377,899   13.59
 log file parallel write
 1,724,0893,806,535   11.81
 db file sequential read
 8,854,5252,044,0206.34
 enqueue   
 78,759  592,4111.84
  
 2002/07/04 
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~   
  Wait % Total
 Event  
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 
   ---
 log file sync  
 3,838,694   13,158,371   63.28
 db file sequential read
 2,189,8632,401,275   11.55
 log file parallel write
 3,401,0352,098,018   10.09
 db file parallel write
 97,0861,503,6087.23
 enqueue   
 71,251  432,7062.08
 
 2002/07/11
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~   
  Wait % Total
 Event  
 Waits  Time (cs)   Wt Time
 

Re: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???

2002-07-13 Thread James J. Morrow



Christopher Royce wrote:
 
 Need Input:
 
 I would like to solicit real life experiences, educated opinions, accolades
 and criticisms from those of you who have implemented or are considering
 implementing Oracle on Linux in a business critical production environment.
 
 We are considering both Red Hat and Suse distributions. We have discovered
 that regardless of the Linux distribution  support is generally
 expensive. That is not a particularly 'deal breaker' determining factor ..
 BUT .. I question the quality of support, the expediency of response and the
 'sense of urgency' experienced in the event of a critical application being
 down. I am familiar with limited Oracle-Linux implementations but not to the
 'industrial strength' degree that has been proposed (but already
 implemented) by our requesting user community.
 
 Is there a preferred distribution  We already have Red Hat and Suse
 implementations and will choose one of them as the standard  'should we
 chose to accept this mission'. I believe that both claim to be the preferred
 distribution by Oracle and that they are 'tier one ports' 

As for Linux distributions?  While Linux is Linux (mostly), you will probably
have fewer problems listening to Oracle's recommendation than trying to go it
alone using another distro.  The reason I say that is, when Oracle tells you
that Oracle 8.X or 9.X is certified on RedHat 7.X they mean that, for the most
part, if you install *THAT* distro of Linux, you should be able to successfully
install Oracle on it.  

You shouldn't have to worry about tracking down a specific Kernel version to
patch your particular favorite distro.  And, you shouldn't have to worry about
*which* version of the glibc libraries you have to track down and install. 
Obviously, newer versions may require you to upgrade those things to be
certified, but, you shouldn't need to worry so much about them out the door.

By thw way, my preferred Distro is Mandrake.  (Bear in mind that RedHat was [and
may still be] compiled to run on an 80386.  Most modern CPU's have additional
features that you have to compile your software to use.  Mandrake, on the other
hand, is pre-compiled for a Pentium.)  [NOTE:  you can always re-compile the
operating system binaries to run on a different type of CPU with either Distro.]

 My initial implementation is Suse 7.2 Enterprise on an IBM NetFinity, 4 cpu,
 2 Gbyte (memory) server using a Net Appliance Filer. There are six instances
 currently up and running. Thus far there have been no occurrences of
 swapping or i/o bottlenecks  but then the system has yet to be fully
 'stressed' and there are scalability concerns. The USER also wants to put
 Oracle 9iAS on the same box - I have managed to delay that for now, pending
 further research. I have had a couple of worrying episodes where a file
 system 'filled up' (on the Filer) that completely 'hung' the system 
 requiring a full system re-boot. Incidentally the aforementioned NetFinity
 implementation is 'a given' as the six instances have already been migrated
 from an aged and de-commissioned HP system. I have inherited the results and
 there is no going back at this juncture.

Bear in mind that if you are using a NetApp Filer, you are actually using NFS to
access your filesystems.  While Oracle's stance on this has changed somewhat
(used to be a never, but never, do that, now [thanks to much goading by NetApp
and others] it is a 'compatible' solution).  In my understanding, the previous
position was taken because not all NFS servers start nfslockd and nfsstatd by
default.  Namely, some version of HP/UX.  (They were there, and could be
started, but you had to know that you needed them).

Personally, accessing my datafiles (or any other Oracle component) via NFS is
sub-optimal in my book.   NFS is a hideously inefficient protocol and an Oracle
Database can create quite a bit of NFS traffic (in the regular world, this would
be just disk I/O).  Additionally NFS doesn't necessarily handle some things
quite as gently as a local filesystem would.  (As you noticed, the
unavailability of the filesystem can cause the machine to hang).

I would recommend investigating several things:

1.  Look into your NFS mount options (and any other options you can set 
with your NFS client).  You may be able to change the NFS client's behavior,
somewhat,
when conditions like a full filesystem occur.

2.  Turn off tablespace autoextend.  This way, with the exception of archivelogs,
your
chances of filling up a filesystem are dramatically decreased.  You (as a
DBA) will
actually have to *manage* the growth.  (In case you haven't guessed,
tablespace 
autoextend is a bad feature, in my book).

3.  Consider disabling the NetApp's snapshot feature.  I believe that this is
on
by default.  (And, I'm told, allows some nice point-in-time recoverability. 
However,
I'm not sure how well this works 

RE: My TAR button disappeared from MetaLink

2002-07-13 Thread Sandeep Kurliye

Hi,
 
Your - TAR read and create priv has been removed, that is why you are not able to see 
TAR button in left pane.
 
You contact with your local support and tell them your problem and they will grant you 
this privs. I am having administrator right on my company CSI, and I have done this 
thing many times. If I don't want a user to give privs of TAR creation or reading, 
then I simply remove this privs, and that user not able to see TAR section.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Regards,
Sandeep.

-Original Message- 
From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Fri 7/12/2002 8:24 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Cc: 
Subject: My TAR button disappeared from MetaLink



I clicked on a URL link in an e-mail from Oracle support, and got an error
message telling me I have no privs to view the document.

I logged into Metalink, and noticed that there is no TAR section in the
right pane, as I usually have.

There also is no TAR button in the left pane, I remember there being one
there but my memory may be wrong...

???

I submitted MetaLink feedback.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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