Does the case of an Oracle query statement affect query performance?

2002-09-29 Thread Shantanu Datta



Hi,
    
Pardon me for such a naive question, coz I am a novice when it comes to Oracle. 
This is basically got to do with how Oracle parses a query.
 
    
Consider the following queries: 
 
a)    
SELECT column1, column2 FROM table WHERE column0 = 5;
 
b)    
SELECT COLUMN1, COLUMN2 FROM TABLE WHERE COLUMN0 =5;
 
    
Scenario 1: I use the naming convention a) for ALL my 
queries
 
    
Scenario 2: I use the naming convention b) for ALL my 
queries
 
    
Will there be any difference in the execution time of the same queries in 
Scenario 1 vs 2?
    

Thanx in 
advance,
Shantanu.
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Memory Based FS on Solaris 8

2002-09-29 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA


With Online Redo Logfiles placed on Memory Based File system i.e. tmpfs on Solaris 8 
with Oracle 8.1.7.2) can Heavy / Data Intensive SQL Loads (DIRECT=TRUE , PARALLEL) 
Cause Other 
regular File systems to Crash ?

SQL Loading happening for 5 Tables Concurrently 
Also Within Each Table 16 Parallel SQL Loads happening 
Data SQL Loaded into Tables of Sizes from 2-5 GB

Thanks

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I hesitated mentioning that parameter in this forum, but I figured what the
heck?  Could be fun, in a sick way...  :-)

Once I was teaching a DBA class and mentioned "_DISABLE_LOGGING".
Immediately, I saw every head in the class look down, scribbling furiously!
I had to backtrack very quickly and warn of the consequences of disabling
redo logging (i.e. database corruption if not shutdown normally for any
reason)...

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> Hi Tim
>
> Yes, I have tried the _disable_logging, does not work on all platforms. DB
> starts up fine, but redo log is generated, evidenced by log switching
going
> on.
>
> Also if I do a normal DML (large-ish one to verify), then dump the redo
log,
> I see my transaction there, so for a 420R, running Solaris8 and Oracle
> 9.0.1, it would seem that _disable_logging does not work.
>
> I don't want to complicate the picture even further with transportable
> tablespaces, which would mean that I would need to store all dependent
> objects (in this case indexes only) in the same tablespace, which I could
> easily achieve by rebuilding all indexes using a dynamic SQL.
>
> Informatica BTW does not only do single level inserts, version 5.0 onwards
> has a 'bulk load' feature, but I am not sure what this actually does.
> Previously Sagent also had a 'direct load' switch, which meant that it
wrote
> all of its data to large (very large) flat files and then used Sql*Loader
> direct path to load. Fast, but Sagent at the time was very unreliable,
> because on identical runs, it would sometimes load all the data, sometimes
> only a portion, and every time, would report no errors and everything
hunky
> dory, until you went looking for your data. I remember that took me about
a
> week of arguing to prove that Sagent was at fault.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion of the Non volatile RAM (NVRAM) unit, it makes
the
> most sense. I will suggest this to my damagers.
>
> Regards:
> Ferenc Mantfeld
> Senior Performance Engineer
> Siebel Performance Engineering
> Melbourne, 3000, VIC, Australia
> Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday
>
>
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>
>
> Have you considered setting "_DISABLE_LOGGING = TRUE"
> instead?  It could be just as disastrous...  ;-)
>
> Buying an NVRAM unit would probably be more sensible, since
> at least then you have some probability of the file-system
> on such a unit surviving node failure or restart.
>
> I don't use Informatica, but I believe it mainly does
> single-row inserts, so not using the APPEND hint is a
> blessing anyway.  After all, who likes one row in each
> database block?  However, I could be wrong about that and it
> may actually be performing multi-row/array insertions...
>
> I don't know what your loads are like, but how about
> something like this instead?
>
>   - create a small database with _DISABLE_LOGGING set to
> TRUE
>   - use Informatica to load into a tablespace on that small,
> sacrificial db
>   - use "transportable tablespace" to copy the tablespace to
> your real DW
>
> Just an idea (better you than me to try it!)...
>
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>
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > does anyone have any white paper or info on how to
> configure a dedicated
> > portion of real memory as a virtual drive on Solaris ? I
> want to move my
> > online redo logs (4 X 128 M single threaded) for a 300 GB
> DW onto it, to
> > speed up Informatica ETL, since Informatica does not allow
> me to specify /*+
> > APPEND */ mode of insert. I know I will not bypass the SQL
> layer this way,
> > but at least, the LGWR will be writing to memory instead
> of disk. Thanks in
> > advance.
> >
> > Regards:
> > Ferenc Mantfeld
> > Senior Performance Engineer
> > Siebel Performance Engineering
> > Melbourne, 3000, VIC, Australia
> > Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> >
> >
> > On Solaris
> >
> > ps -ef -opid,ppid,vsz=VIRTMEM -orss=PHYSMEM
> -opmem,pcpu,user,args
> >
> > use:
> >
> > psrinfo -v
> > prtconf | grep Mem
> > format
> > uname -a
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > -Original Message-
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OT: fast tape drive for AIX

2002-09-29 Thread Rahul

list, we are looking for a fast tape drive to backup all the volume groups
on our IBM H70.. 
around 100GB+, our current backup takes around 5-6 hours !!!

any ideas about a faster tape drive ? or an optical one ? 

regards
-Rahul


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RE: Remember me? Oracle DBA veteran considering getting certifi

2002-09-29 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Remember me? Oracle DBA veteran considering getting certifi





Sorry I didn't respond sooner - been up to my neck recovering from a bad controller.  Anyway - 8i.  If Mike Ault wrote a cram book for 9i upgrade I would get that one too.  Please don't tell me that 8i ceritfication is retired.  

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Which version you are talking about? 8i or 9i upgrade certification


Regards
Rafiq





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Well,


Given the IT market I felt that it was worth getting certified even though I
haven't had any problems and been working with Oracle as DBA for over 8
years.  However, I decided that I didn't want to spend a lot of money or
time to do it.  I have 2 small children, work, - yadayadayada(sp?).  I got
the self-test for the first test, studied using that and read Mike Ault's
Exam cram book from front to back (excellent resource, concise,
straightforward, good examples - just a couple of errors in whole book).
Total test time was about 30 hours.  Took the exam this morning in 60
minutes (120 alloted), got 49 out of 57 questions correct and passed.  I
really want to thank Mike Ault for the excellent concise Cram book and
intend to continue on this same path for the other exams.  Unfortunately,
Mike didn't write all of them - however, I am hoping they are all of the
same level of quality.  I haven't taken a course in Oracle (any) for about 5
year and SQL/PLSQL in about 10-12.


Total hours to prepare :  30 hours
Resources:  Exam Cram by Mike Ault and self-test exam
Any additional costs - none
Didn't want to study on clients time so ended up studying mostly between the
hours of 2:00 a.m. and 8:00 a.m. in the morning.


Hope the others go well and can get this done before Oracle changes the
criteria.





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Oracle DBA veteran considering getting certification

2002-09-29 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Congratulations Paula, and thanks for sharing "how I did it". Like you, I
believe that today there are still plenty of hiring managers that will count
experience far heavier than certification. I just worry that if they are
considering someone with equal experience, the OCP might tip their decision.
Ironically, those who have been out of work have been in a better position
to study for their certification than those of us who have been working
steadily. 
   - Which level of Oracle are you pursuing? Oracle 8i?
   - Which test did you take?
I have been very pleased with Jason Couchman's "Oracle 8i DBA Practice
Exams" from Oracle Press. One thing he points out is that for the
experienced DBA, the different modules are definitely of different
difficulty levels. Here is my assessment so far:
   - SQL and PL/SQL is one of the hardest. You need to know all the SQL
functions. Discourages too many experienced DBAs from continuing the
certification process, if they were caught napping by this first test.
   - Database Administration - the easiest for an experienced DBA. Take this
first.
   - Tuning - Pretty easy since most of us end up tuning from time to time.
   - Backup & Recovery - One of the hardest. Most of us don't spend much
time recovering (if we're lucky), but nobody can deny it is a critical
function. Of course, I took this one first.
   - Net Administration - I don't have a good feel for this one. I don't do
much network stuff, so I have a lot to learn.
 
Someone posted a statement awhile back to the effect: "look at it from the
test developer's point of view." Here is what I think the objectives are:
1. Ensure that a client can hire an OCP with reasonable assurance that they
are reasonably competent.
2. Test basic competence. Make it difficult enough and practical enough to
weed out most of the inexperienced people.
3. Test breadth of knowledge. This trips up most of us experienced people.
For example, maybe you've never worked with MTS. An OCP should at least know
some basic facts about MTS just so a hiring manager doesn't shake his head
in disbelief that he just hired someone that never heard of MTS. On the
other hand, Oracle database is very complex and richly featured so you can't
expect an OCP to be an expert in every facet. 
4. Tie it to the Oracle Education courses. Oracle didn't get where it was by
leaving money on the table. If it can get most people to take the courses
and most course graduates glide through the exams, then for Oracle it is a
win-win.
 
You can't make the test so difficult that you get so few certified people
that it never gets any mass appeal.
But you can't make it so easy that its value is ridiculed (aside from this
list).
 
I'll tell you something more ominous. I am a Licensed Professional Engineer
(mechanical engineer). This is a really old certification track, that is
administered by a national professional engineer's society (wouldn't work
here, the professional societies like IEEE aren't strong enough, and Oracle
will resist competition, since they sell educational classes). These things
tend to vary over time. In the early days, you could simply send in a
licensing fee. That is how they grandfathered in all the working
professionals, and forestalled a rebellion. Then they instituted an easy
test. By the time I came along, the test was a real bear, and you couldn't
take it until you had 4 years of experience (4 years to forget).
Technically, you could come in off the street, no degree, and pass the test.
Unlikely, but theoretically possible. Now, they have accomplished most of
their goals and they more certify the school than the engineer. Or they are
trying to raise the number of licensed engineers. My apologies for boring
most of you, but personally, I find some interesting parallels. We may
actually see the certification process get harder now that the wide
acceptance seems to be coming.

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Well, 

Given the IT market I felt that it was worth getting certified even though I
haven't had any problems and been working with Oracle as DBA for over 8
years.  However, I decided that I didn't want to spend a lot of money or
time to do it.  I have 2 small children, work, - yadayadayada(sp?).  I got
the self-test for the first test, studied using that and read Mike Ault's
Exam cram book from front to back (excellent resource, concise,
straightforward, good examples - just a couple of errors in whole book).
Total test time was about 30 hours.  Took the exam this morning in 60
minutes (120 alloted), got 49 out of 57 questions correct and passed.  I
really want to thank Mike Ault for the excellent concise Cram book and
intend to continue on this same path for the other exams.  Unfortunately,
Mike didn't write all of them - however, I am hoping they are all of the
same level of quality.  I haven't taken a course in Oracle (any) for about 5
year and SQL/PLSQL in about 1

Oracle DBA veteran considering getting certification/9i

2002-09-29 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Thanks..I was more interested in 9i upgrade exam. Mike Ault don't have book 
for this 9i upgrade as far as I know...However, I just passed my 9i upgrade 
today ..My study material was

1-Robert Freeman 9i New Features Book
2-Daniel's OCP 9i New Features Book
3-STS Software question(now password is validated from their site for online 
test question purchase by using purchaser's email account and their account 
password so no free distribution from purchaser). However they offer 30% 
discount now a days meaning test cost under $70 ISO $99.
4-Some more sources from web...
5-Personal experience

It is just for info for whoever is interested and no publicity of 
material

For any specific question, send me email directly (please not for STS test)

Regards
Rafiq


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I think he meant Oracle 9i Exam 1 of 4 - Intro to SQL.

On Saturday 28 September 2002 14:28, Mohammad Rafiq wrote:
 > Which version you are talking about? 8i or 9i upgrade certification
 >
 > Regards
 > Rafiq
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:53:19 -0800
 >
 > Well,
 >
 > Given the IT market I felt that it was worth getting certified even 
though
 > I haven't had any problems and been working with Oracle as DBA for over 8
 > years.  However, I decided that I didn't want to spend a lot of money or
 > time to do it.  I have 2 small children, work, - yadayadayada(sp?).  I 
got
 > the self-test for the first test, studied using that and read Mike Ault's
 > Exam cram book from front to back (excellent resource, concise,
 > straightforward, good examples - just a couple of errors in whole book).
 > Total test time was about 30 hours.  Took the exam this morning in 60
 > minutes (120 alloted), got 49 out of 57 questions correct and passed.  I
 > really want to thank Mike Ault for the excellent concise Cram book and
 > intend to continue on this same path for the other exams.  Unfortunately,
 > Mike didn't write all of them - however, I am hoping they are all of the
 > same level of quality.  I haven't taken a course in Oracle (any) for 
about
 > 5 year and SQL/PLSQL in about 10-12.
 >
 > Total hours to prepare :  30 hours
 > Resources:  Exam Cram by Mike Ault and self-test exam
 > Any additional costs - none
 > Didn't want to study on clients time so ended up studying mostly between
 > the hours of 2:00 a.m. and 8:00 a.m. in the morning.
 >
 > Hope the others go well and can get this done before Oracle changes the
 > criteria.
 >
 >
 >
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Re: linux and Oracle Apps jinit

2002-09-29 Thread Madhavan Amruthur

Hi Ron,

> Has anyone found a way to use linux as a client to Oracle Applications?
>  The self service stuff runs
> just fine but the Oracle Forms requires that damnable jinit.  This is
> the only problem left before I
> can give MS the big Heave Ho.
 
I am also in the process of trying to find if I can get Linux to be a
client for Oracle Apps and the only lead I had was that there was once
a Solaris version that can be still made to work and I am trying to
find out if I can get that.

Other than that, I have heard Windows is the only platform that jinit
runs on :-(

Regards,
Madhavan
http://www.dpapps.com

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Re: DBA place in the business (was RE: DBA work load)

2002-09-29 Thread Yechiel Adar

Hello Peter

We have an infrastructure division that divides into two departments:
system programming and DBA.

Organization chart for us will be:
CEO -> CIO -> Infrastructure -> DBA.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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>
> I've found the thread on DBA workload valuable and interesting. It
endorses
> points made repeatedly over the past years, basically the highly variable
> nature of the job.
>
> This variability is giving us a small problem. Our dba work (shared
between
> two of us) tends to function in the background, and of course because we
do
> it so damn well (!!), our impact on the running of the organisation is
> pretty low. Kind of 'reverse exception' effect, if you will.
>
> There is now a desire to formalise the role of the dba function within the
> organisation, and nobody has the first idea of how to define, in an
> organisational / structural sense just how the dba role slots in. I'm
> talking about organsiational charts, herarchies etc, that sort of thing.
Not
> just across the org, but particularly within the IT domain too.
> Specifically, dba impacts from the low-level hardware side, right up to
> application development, with everything in between. And that already
spans
> several existing lines of management responsibility. Our problem has added
> spice as we are (trying) to operate a matrix management system, which
> repeatedly throws up intriguing political dimensions.
>
> Anybody ever been down this particular route?
>
> Any thoughts much appreciated,
>
> peter
> edinburgh
>
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