Threat to Fast exports

2003-03-02 Thread Rajesh Dayal
Please have a look at following note: 223399.1 having title

ALERT: EXPORT with large BUFFER can silently produce a dump file with corrupted data.

Looks like all major versions on all platforms are affected.

Really scary one..

Rajesh


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RE: [Q]terminating instance due to error 601

2003-03-02 Thread Teenu

Dennis,Tim -

here are the trace files.  Hmmm, the problem seems to be ORA-27303
 //*Cause:  OS system call error
// *Action: contact Oracle Support  :-O

Thanks !
Regards,
Teenu


_pmon_1222.trc__

*** SESSION ID:(1.1) 2003-03-02 22:37:41.250
*** 2003-03-02 22:37:41.360
Load Indicator not supported by OS !
*** 2003-03-03 03:15:53.581
error 601 detected in background process


__ora_3274.trc__
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.1.0 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production
ORACLE_HOME = /aux/oracle
System name:Linux
Node name:  j21
Release:2.5.6
Version:#1 Tue Feb 25 18:55:04 IST 2003
Machine:i686
Instance name: tj1
Redo thread mounted by this instance: 1
Oracle process number: 0
3274

OPIRIP: Uncaught error -1. Error stack:
ORA--0001: Message -1 not found;  product=RDBMS; facility=ORA
ORA-27302: failure occurred at: skgpwinit4
ORA-27303: additional information: attach to invalid skgp shared ctx
_


On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

> Teenu
>
> Here is the text from oerr.
>
> 00601, 0, "cleanup lock conflict"
> // *Cause:  PMON process runs into lock conflict trying to recovery
> processes
> // *Action: This is trapped internally, no action necessary
>
> Was a trace file produced in bdump or udump?
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
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>
> Hi folks ,
> whats the meaning of error 601. The Database crashed with the following
> message in alert log -->
>
> Mon Mar  3 03:15:53 2003
> PMON: terminating instance due to error 601
> Instance terminated by PMON, pid = 1222
>
> Platform Details-->
> OS -> RH 7.1
> Oracle -> 8.1.6
>
> TIA
>
> Tc
>
>
>

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RE: multiple oracle homes

2003-03-02 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Alex,
 Thanks for that idea :) 

- Kirti 

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Kirti,

The next enhancement would be to execute script (from .profile) which will
generate all aliases based on oratab.
I use something like
alias PRMT='. /usr/local/bin/oracle_setup.ksh PRMT'
and /usr/local/bin/oracle_setup.ksh will source oraenv and do some
additional customization.

Alex.

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Better yet, have one single generic .profile with aliases defined for each
instance running on the server.

Want to change env for another instance? Just type it's name. It is that
simple.

We do this on all our servers, some with 20+ instances running under 7.3.4,
8.0.x, 8.1.x and 9.2.x. We use only one id for all versions of Oracle s/w.

The .profile file sources the alias' file as .local.aliases. This file has
entries as below:

#Add Database name here using the following format
alias PRMT='export ORACLE_SID=PRMT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias PRMX='export ORACLE_SID=PRMX; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias VP1D='export ORACLE_SID=VP1D; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv; cd
/u01/home/oracle/admin/VP1D;'
alias SDSD='export ORACLE_SID=SDSD; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SDST='export ORACLE_SID=SDST; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SVRP='export ORACLE_SID=SVRP; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SVRT='export ORACLE_SID=SVRT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias IDSU='export ORACLE_SID=IDSU; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias IWVT='export ORACLE_SID=IWVT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'

PRMT --> IWVT are the instances running on the server.



And finally, do change the UNIX prompt to include current ORACLE_SID, among
other things !!


HTH,

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Re: What to check?

2003-03-02 Thread Mark Richard
David,

Have you checked the most obvious...  The number of rows in the table?

Also, you say "three different Solaris8 machines"...  How "different" are
they?  Are the disk subsystems the same on all three?  How identical are
their configurations?  How similar are the init.ora files on all three
machines (perhaps sort_area_size or something similar depending on the
query to dump the table)?  Unfortunately there's a lot of possibilities
about what might cause the slow down.

The other suggestions of wait events and execution plans are valid ideas.
Hopefully one of these will give a hint about where to look for the cause.

Regards,
 Mark.



   

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investigate why.  I log into the machine in question to check I/O
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Re: Oracle Mag Bio

2003-03-02 Thread Arup Nanda
Thanks for the compliments, Jared. Much appreciated. 

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Re: multiple oracle homes

2003-03-02 Thread Alex Feinstein
Kirti,

The next enhancement would be to execute script (from .profile) which will
generate all aliases based on oratab.
I use something like
alias PRMT='. /usr/local/bin/oracle_setup.ksh PRMT'
and /usr/local/bin/oracle_setup.ksh will source oraenv and do some
additional customization.

Alex.

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Better yet, have one single generic .profile with aliases defined for each
instance running on the server.

Want to change env for another instance? Just type it's name. It is that
simple.

We do this on all our servers, some with 20+ instances running under 7.3.4,
8.0.x, 8.1.x and 9.2.x. We use only one id for all versions of Oracle s/w.

The .profile file sources the alias' file as .local.aliases. This file has
entries as below:

#Add Database name here using the following format
alias PRMT='export ORACLE_SID=PRMT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias PRMX='export ORACLE_SID=PRMX; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias VP1D='export ORACLE_SID=VP1D; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv; cd
/u01/home/oracle/admin/VP1D;'
alias SDSD='export ORACLE_SID=SDSD; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SDST='export ORACLE_SID=SDST; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SVRP='export ORACLE_SID=SVRP; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SVRT='export ORACLE_SID=SVRT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias IDSU='export ORACLE_SID=IDSU; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias IWVT='export ORACLE_SID=IWVT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'

PRMT --> IWVT are the instances running on the server.



And finally, do change the UNIX prompt to include current ORACLE_SID, among
other things !!


HTH,

- Kirti

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Oracle Mag Bio

2003-03-02 Thread Jared Still

Congrats to Arup Nanda, whose bio appears
in the latest issue of Oracle Mag.

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RE: [Q]terminating instance due to error 601

2003-03-02 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Teenu

Here is the text from oerr.

00601, 0, "cleanup lock conflict"
// *Cause:  PMON process runs into lock conflict trying to recovery
processes
// *Action: This is trapped internally, no action necessary   

Was a trace file produced in bdump or udump?

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Hi folks ,
whats the meaning of error 601. The Database crashed with the following
message in alert log -->

Mon Mar  3 03:15:53 2003
PMON: terminating instance due to error 601
Instance terminated by PMON, pid = 1222

Platform Details-->
OS -> RH 7.1
Oracle -> 8.1.6

TIA

Tc


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Re: [Q]terminating instance due to error 601

2003-03-02 Thread Tim Gorman
...take a look at the latest "pmon_*.trc" file in the
BACKGROUND_DUMP_DEST...

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> Hi folks ,
> whats the meaning of error 601. The Database crashed with the following
> message in alert log -->
>
> Mon Mar  3 03:15:53 2003
> PMON: terminating instance due to error 601
> Instance terminated by PMON, pid = 1222
>
> Platform Details-->
> OS -> RH 7.1
> Oracle -> 8.1.6
>
> TIA
>
> Tc
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[Q]terminating instance due to error 601

2003-03-02 Thread Teenu
Hi folks ,
whats the meaning of error 601. The Database crashed with the following
message in alert log -->

Mon Mar  3 03:15:53 2003
PMON: terminating instance due to error 601
Instance terminated by PMON, pid = 1222

Platform Details-->
OS -> RH 7.1
Oracle -> 8.1.6

TIA

Tc


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Re: V$ARCHIVED_LOG question

2003-03-02 Thread Tim Gorman
The ACTIVATION# and ARCHIVAL_THREAD# columns are apparently used by Data
Guard "fetch archive log" (FAL) processes to manage any logfile transfer
gaps using the FAL_CLIENT and FAL_SERVER parameters on the primary and
standby databases.  Metalink note #150214.1 ("Synchronization of primary and
standby database due to log transfer gap") mentions the values in these
columns, though not the column names themselves.

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> Murali,
>
> I can offer some insight into the activation# column because I was
> interested in that too earlier. When a database starts, a new "database
> instantiation id" is given to that instance, presumably for the RMAN
> backups. This id can be seen from v$database under column activation#. So
> when you create another incarnation of the database using RMAN cloning,
the
> archived logs are either used or not depending on the value of this
> activation# associated with them.
>
> Hope someone else can shed some light into the other columns -
particularly
> archival_thread# and why it's different from the thread#.
>
> Arup Nanda
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> > Oracle 9i has quite a few new columns added to the V$ARCHIVED_LOG
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> >
> > For example, END_OF_REDO, ARCHIVAL_THREAD#,ACTIVATION#
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> > Any clues on what these columns mean.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Murali
> >
> >DEST_IDTHREAD#  SEQUENCE# END BACKUP_COUNT ARCHIVAL_THREAD#
> > ACTIVATION#
> > -- -- -- ---  
> > ---
> >  1  2 48 NO 12
> > 3612293975
> >  1  1116 NO 11
> > 3612293975
> >  1  2 49 NO 12
> > 3612293975
> >  1  1117 NO 01
> > 3612293975
> >  1  2 50 NO 02
> > 3612293975
> >  1  1118 NO 02
> > 3612293975
> >  1  2 51 NO 02
> > 3612293975
> >  1  1119 NO 02
> > 3612293975
> >  1  2 52 NO 02
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RE: Datafile Resize Question

2003-03-02 Thread Meng, Dennis
Thanks John. Actually it turns out there are a couple of small tables left
in the tablespace that I missed in my query. After moving those outta there,
I was able to shrink.

Thanks

Dennis

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Apologies - when I use MS Web Outlook, I can't change the mail format from
rich text to plan text, so it attaches the winmail.dat garbage.

Are your tablespaces, by any chance, locally managed with a large uniform
extent size?  I don't believe you can shrink the size of a datafile smaller
than the uniform extent size of the tablespace when it's locally managed.

If the size of your files, after moving all segments elsewhere, is about
equal to the uniform extent size of the tablespace, this could be your
answer.

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John -
Your E-mail came to me as unreadable. If you have an answer to this, can you
send plain text ?

Thanks!

Dennis

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RE: Datafile Resize Question

2003-03-02 Thread John Clarke
Apologies - when I use MS Web Outlook, I can't change the mail format from rich text 
to plan text, so it attaches the winmail.dat garbage.

Are your tablespaces, by any chance, locally managed with a large uniform extent size? 
 I don't believe you can shrink the size of a datafile smaller than the uniform extent 
size of the tablespace when it's locally managed.

If the size of your files, after moving all segments elsewhere, is about equal to the 
uniform extent size of the tablespace, this could be your answer.

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John -
Your E-mail came to me as unreadable. If you have an answer to this, can you
send plain text ?

Thanks!

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RE: Datafile Resize Question

2003-03-02 Thread Meng, Dennis
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RE: Datafile Resize Question

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Datafile Resize Question

2003-03-02 Thread Meng, Dennis
Hi all -
I am trying to resize a datafile and have the following puzzler -
I used the following query to get the list of tables that use this datafile
and then use 'alter table ... move tablespace ' to move the tables to
another tablespace. Now the datafile should be empty as indicated by the
query and OEM. But I looked at the file and the  high water mark for the
file is still pretty high ( it is lower than before though) and I can't
resize it to the size I wanted.
My questions is - since I moved EVERYTHIG from the datafile, what could be
in it that is holding me back?

select distinct a.object_name, a.object_type, a.table_space, a.ts_size
 from reorg_table_map a, dba_extents b 
 where upper(rtrim(a.object_name)) = upper(b.segment_name )

   and b.file_id = 111

TIA

Dennis

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Re: DeadLock: session wait on itself with no rows.

2003-03-02 Thread Arup Nanda
chao_ping,

Read MetaLink Doc Id 166924.1. It offer some insights into this kind of
"Self Deadlocks". Here is an excerpt.


1. Self Deadlocks

It occur when one session tries to get a lock on a resource that he already
has in some way.  Normally, the Oracle engine should detect those situations
and should avoid the signalling of the ORA-04020 to the end-users. When a
self deadlock detection occurs, Oracle generates a trace file in the
user_dump_dest. It is only considered as a bug if  an ORA-04020 is signalled
to the end-user.



HTH.

Arup

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> hi, friends:
>
> >>>select count(*) into :b0 from USERCONFIRMINFO where USER_ID=:b1
> >>>The following deadlock is not an ORACLE error. It is a
> >>>deadlock due to user error in the design of an application
> >>>or from issuing incorrect ad-hoc SQL. The following
> >>>information may aid in determining the deadlock:
> >>>
> >>>Deadlock graph:
> >>>-Blocker(s) -Waiter(s)-
> >>>Resource Name process session holds waits process session holds waits
> >>>TX-000e005d-00037cfa 306 484 X 306 484 S
> >>>session 484: DID 0001-0165-00010802 session 484: DID 0001-0165-00010802
> >>>Rows waited on:
> >>>Session 484: no row
>
> Another trace file like:
> >>>*** 2003-03-02 16:50:22.447
> >>>DEADLOCK DETECTED
> >>>Current SQL statement for this session:
> >>>select USER_ID ,USER_EMAIL into :b0,:b1  from USERPRIVATEINFO where
USER_ACCOUNT=:b2
> >>>The following deadlock is not an ORACLE error. It is a
> >>>deadlock due to user error in the design of an application
> >>>or from issuing incorrect ad-hoc SQL. The following
> >>>information may aid in determining the deadlock:
> >>>Deadlock graph:
>
>>   -Blocker(s)  -Waiter(s)
-
> >>>Resource Name  process session holds waits  process session
holds waits
> >>>TX-0012004a-000374f8   293 263 X306 512
S
> >>>session 263: DID 0001-0165-0004EC65 session 512: DID
0001-0165-0004EC65
> >>>Rows waited on:
> >>>Session 512: no row
>
>
>
> I ever saw message talking about two session deadlock with no rows waited
on, maybe it is because of pctfree/initrans, How about session wait on
itself then?  And how can it happen?
>
>
>
> Regards
> zhu chao
> msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> www.cnoug.org(China Oracle User Group)
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Re: V$ARCHIVED_LOG question

2003-03-02 Thread Arup Nanda
Murali,

I can offer some insight into the activation# column because I was
interested in that too earlier. When a database starts, a new "database
instantiation id" is given to that instance, presumably for the RMAN
backups. This id can be seen from v$database under column activation#. So
when you create another incarnation of the database using RMAN cloning, the
archived logs are either used or not depending on the value of this
activation# associated with them.

Hope someone else can shed some light into the other columns - particularly
archival_thread# and why it's different from the thread#.

Arup Nanda

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> Oracle 9i has quite a few new columns added to the V$ARCHIVED_LOG
dictionary
> view,however there is no documentation.
>
> For example, END_OF_REDO, ARCHIVAL_THREAD#,ACTIVATION#
>
> Any clues on what these columns mean.
>
> Thanks
>
> Murali
>
>DEST_IDTHREAD#  SEQUENCE# END BACKUP_COUNT ARCHIVAL_THREAD#
> ACTIVATION#
> -- -- -- ---  
> ---
>  1  2 48 NO 12
> 3612293975
>  1  1116 NO 11
> 3612293975
>  1  2 49 NO 12
> 3612293975
>  1  1117 NO 01
> 3612293975
>  1  2 50 NO 02
> 3612293975
>  1  1118 NO 02
> 3612293975
>  1  2 51 NO 02
> 3612293975
>  1  1119 NO 02
> 3612293975
>  1  2 52 NO 02
> 3612293975
>
>
>
>
> Murali Vallath
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V$ARCHIVED_LOG question

2003-03-02 Thread Murali Vallath
Oracle 9i has quite a few new columns added to the V$ARCHIVED_LOG dictionary 
view,however there is no documentation.

For example, END_OF_REDO, ARCHIVAL_THREAD#,ACTIVATION#

Any clues on what these columns mean.

Thanks

Murali

  DEST_IDTHREAD#  SEQUENCE# END BACKUP_COUNT ARCHIVAL_THREAD# 
ACTIVATION#
-- -- -- ---   
---
1  2 48 NO 12  
3612293975
1  1116 NO 11  
3612293975
1  2 49 NO 12  
3612293975
1  1117 NO 01  
3612293975
1  2 50 NO 02  
3612293975
1  1118 NO 02  
3612293975
1  2 51 NO 02  
3612293975
1  1119 NO 02  
3612293975
1  2 52 NO 02  
3612293975



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RE: multiple oracle homes

2003-03-02 Thread John Blake

We do something similar to this, we created a series of scripts that use the
oratab file to create a menu  for the oracle id.
this same proc is called when running batch jobs against the DB's by sending
the DB name as a parm.
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Better yet, have one single generic .profile with aliases defined for each
instance running on the server.

Want to change env for another instance? Just type it's name. It is that
simple.

We do this on all our servers, some with 20+ instances running under 7.3.4,
8.0.x, 8.1.x and 9.2.x. We use only one id for all versions of Oracle s/w.

The .profile file sources the alias' file as .local.aliases. This file has
entries as below:

#Add Database name here using the following format
alias PRMT='export ORACLE_SID=PRMT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias PRMX='export ORACLE_SID=PRMX; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias VP1D='export ORACLE_SID=VP1D; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv; cd
/u01/home/oracle/admin/VP1D;'
alias SDSD='export ORACLE_SID=SDSD; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SDST='export ORACLE_SID=SDST; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SVRP='export ORACLE_SID=SVRP; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SVRT='export ORACLE_SID=SVRT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias IDSU='export ORACLE_SID=IDSU; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias IWVT='export ORACLE_SID=IWVT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'

PRMT --> IWVT are the instances running on the server.



And finally, do change the UNIX prompt to include current ORACLE_SID, among
other things !!


HTH,

- Kirti


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Using something other than oracle makes it more complicated - I think.  Have
a different .profile - can name it something that makes sense.
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Ray - My 2 cents worth. Don't ever use another username besides Oracle. Had
a bad experience :-)
Dennis Williams
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On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:08:55AM -0800, Ray Stell wrote:
>
> Where is it well documented how to install multiple server versions,
> 8i and 9i, on the same unix server?
--
Thanks for you replies.  I've never tried this before and it seems like
there are two different approaches on the surface:
1. use two different userids, ora817 and ora920, to do the install.  This
seems stupid, since it replicates the product directory structure and
oraInventory stuff under different ownership.  This might be safer since
it is like running one version in that everything is seperate, but
maybe there are operational issues to not using the oracle userid.
Seems like there may be a gotcha waiting in the wings.  Like maybe you
can't run the same listener for both, or worse.
2. use the same oracle userid for both installs and change the environment
vars as needed.  Seems like you could damage the first install if you
made a mistake.  Also, it seems like in a stressful failure situation
you don't want to have to think about who's on first?  I don't know,
third base.
Are both paths valid?
===
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DeadLock: session wait on itself with no rows.

2003-03-02 Thread chao_ping
hi, friends:

>>>select count(*) into :b0 from USERCONFIRMINFO where USER_ID=:b1
>>>The following deadlock is not an ORACLE error. It is a
>>>deadlock due to user error in the design of an application
>>>or from issuing incorrect ad-hoc SQL. The following
>>>information may aid in determining the deadlock:
>>>
>>>Deadlock graph:
>>>-Blocker(s) -Waiter(s)-
>>>Resource Name process session holds waits process session holds waits
>>>TX-000e005d-00037cfa 306 484 X 306 484 S
>>>session 484: DID 0001-0165-00010802 session 484: DID 0001-0165-00010802
>>>Rows waited on:
>>>Session 484: no row
 
Another trace file like:
>>>*** 2003-03-02 16:50:22.447
>>>DEADLOCK DETECTED
>>>Current SQL statement for this session:
>>>select USER_ID ,USER_EMAIL into :b0,:b1  from USERPRIVATEINFO where USER_ACCOUNT=:b2
>>>The following deadlock is not an ORACLE error. It is a
>>>deadlock due to user error in the design of an application
>>>or from issuing incorrect ad-hoc SQL. The following
>>>information may aid in determining the deadlock:
>>>Deadlock graph:
>>>   -Blocker(s)  -Waiter(s)-
>>>Resource Name  process session holds waits  process session holds waits
>>>TX-0012004a-000374f8   293 263 X306 512   S
>>>session 263: DID 0001-0165-0004EC65 session 512: DID 0001-0165-0004EC65
>>>Rows waited on:
>>>Session 512: no row



I ever saw message talking about two session deadlock with no rows waited on, maybe it 
is because of pctfree/initrans, How about session wait on itself then?  And how can it 
happen?



Regards
zhu chao
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Re: Oracle Magazine excels itself

2003-03-02 Thread Connor McDonald
I agree wholeheartedly, the reason being (to share my
own experiences), that some months ago I sent some
feedback on an (unrelated) article in Oracle magazine
because I thought much of it was incorrect.

I got a reply from the author of the article basically
agreeing with my points.  

Of course, *that* reply came offline, not in the
magazine!

Cheers
Connor

 --- Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > 
> 
> I think it was only a few weeks ago that
> I posted a list of errors in an article about
> statspack that Oracle Magazine published
> in January.
> 
> You may be interested to see that another reader
> sent a letter to the editor about the same article,
> which has been published, with a response, in
> the March issue.
> 
> <>
> 
> I found an error in "Advanced Tuning with
> Statspack" in your
> January/February 2003 issue. Rich Niemiec writes
> that in 
> the event of a wait on a segment header to
> increase the 
> Freelist groups. Freelist groups only apply to
> Oracle9i RAC 
> systems, and have nothing to do buffer busy
> waits on 
> non-RAC systems.
> 
> <>
> 
> << my comment>>
> 
> It is, of course, unfortunate that this 'correction'
> is actually
> wrong. Although the manuals have persistently
> stated, until
> very recently, that freelist groups were relevant
> only to OPS, 
> they have been effective in single instance Oracle
> for a long 
> time - possibly as far back as 7.2.3
> 
> <>
> 
> <>
> 
> Freelist groups do, in fact, have some benefits
> apart from
> Oracle9i RAC. MetaLink says that Freelist groups
> can 
> have a positive impact in an exclusive
> environment 
> (non-RAC) by helping reduce contention on the
> segment
> header. However, I should point out that segment
> header
> block contention can be addressed without
> multiple Freelist 
> groups, for example, by increasing the
> pctfree/pctused gap 
> or by partitioning the segment.
> 
> <>
> 
> 
> <>
> 
> Surely the point of a 'readers comments' section is
> to get feedback from the readers, add value to the
> article by including readers' experiences or extra
> observations, allow expression of readers' attitudes
> and feelings (without an aggressive editorial
> response),
> and, if an actual error does get noted, allow a
> correction
> to be published.
> 
> 
> So why publish this erroneous correction ?  It did
> not
> add value to the article, it didn't even expose the
> need
> for clarification of a point. It merely elicited a
> repetition
> of some material that had already been stated in the
> article (which originally said: "... If this is the
> case, increase
> the freelist groups or increase the pctused to
> pctfree gap"...) 
> plus the claim that the author had to be right
> because the 
> comment was taken from Metalink.
> 
> 
> It would, quite arguably, have been valid to reply
> with
> something like:  "Your comments do, indeed reflect
> a well-known, and often documented, misconception
> about freelist groups.  However, the behaviour
> changed in
> Oracle 7.X.X, and single-instance Oracle will take
> advantage of multiple free list groups. Be careful,
> however, that you set FREELISTS and FREELIST
> GROUPS to relatively co-prime numbers, or you
> will lose some of the benefits etc."
> 
> 
> So what has the dialogue achieved:
> 
> a) It hasn't improved the knowledge of the
> readers.
> 
> b) It has told readers that they had better not
> write in if they think that there is an error in 
> one of the articles unless they want to run 
> the risk of looking stupid in public.
> 
> c) It has given Rich Niemiec the chance to
> say "I'm right, you're wrong - yah, boo, sucks".
> 
> 
> I'm not impressed..
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
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Re: bulk load of data

2003-03-02 Thread Connor McDonald
certainly sqlldr direct is the way to do until you
could look at external tables in ver 9.  The only
advice I would add is that if you do go the external
table route in v9, try get more benefit than just
replacing sqlldr with some sql.

I've seen a few places where they adopted external
tables but they still just loaded the data from the
external into staging tables and then did some
processing, where I think the aim should be to use the
external table and possibly some pipelining to
streamline the process.

hth
connor

 --- John Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Age
old question I guess, but looking for the up to
> date answer.
> 
> 
> We have requirement to process up to 500,000 records
> of data currently held
> in 
> a text file.
> 
> Currently we process these through external C
> procedures and only totals are
> 
> loaded into the database, Now we have a functional
> requirement which
> probably 
> means we need to load all the records into a
> database table.
> 
> Is sqlloader still the quickest option?
> 
> What other options are there? We know that utl_file
> is too slow. External 
> tables?
> 
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RE: Statistics on SYS?

2003-03-02 Thread Connor McDonald
The cynic in me would think that this is tantamount to
Oracle asking us to beta-test their cbo-enabled
dictionary in preparation for ver 10 :-)

I think they're pretty much there though - bucketloads
of the recursive sql seems to be hinted nowadays,
presumably to get it cbo ready.

cheers
connor

 --- Freeman Robert - IL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
There is actually now a comment in the 9iR2 doc's
> that it's ok to start
> generating stats on the SYSTEM tablespace (in prep
> for the removal of RBO in
> 10i). Has anyone actually done that in 9iR2, and
> what is your experience?
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> RF
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> I remember it was noted here that
> dbms_stats.gather_database_stats 
> was busted in 8i, it went about attacking system ts.
>  Is that fixed in 
> 9.2.0.2?
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> On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:16:17AM -0800, DENNIS
> WILLIAMS wrote:
> > Chuck - Don't do it man! People have had very bad
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Re: How to load pictures/documents in oracle

2003-03-02 Thread Connor McDonald
asktom.oracle.com has a number of plsql examples to do
so.

hth
connor

 --- Gene Sais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I
don't have much experience developing applications
> using blobs but
> here is a link to help get you started.
>
http://developer.iplanet.com/appserver/samples/database/docs/blob.html
> Gene
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/28/03 10:04AM >>>
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I have never had to insert pictures/documents in the
> oracle database
> before
> and would like to give it a go. Does anybody have
> some scripts that I
> can
> tear apart to look at how to do it (examples I find
> more usefull than
> books). I tried finding useful info on the net but
> did not find any
> concrete
> answers.
> 
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> TIA
> 
> 
> Jack
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