9.2.0.3 job coordinator bug

2003-06-07 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi gurus

after all that trace and error stack, oracle has
finally conculed that this is a bug and job queue
coordinator messes up shared memory so badly it starts
throwing 4031 errors for a few hours and eventaully
dbwr terminates the instance.

if jobs are the heart beat of ur system,please be
aware of this and try to make the number of jobs in
the queue less to avoid this issue,rather prolong the
time until db crashes. otherwise ina big soup.

suggestions:
1. increase job_queue_processes
2. flush share pool frequentl
3. bounce db everyday

and i am telling the truth when i say the above were
suggested by oracle until the patch is available.

thanks
sai
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Form question

2003-06-07 Thread Ofer Harel
Good morning,

This a question for Oracle form and report
I want to add a beep or sound to a form when a certain action occurs, e.g.,
result of a query. 
How can I make a beep (or sound) from within an Oracle Form.

thanking you in advance

Ofer Harel
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RE: shared memory issues in 9.2.0.3

2003-06-07 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
still occuring..db will crash anytime..job queue is
the heart beat of this db..

any clue on this issue
thanks
sai
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sai Selvaganesan
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:50 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> hi
> we have upgraded a database from 8.1.7.4 on aix 4.3
> to
> 9.2.0.3 on 5l and was running fine for the past two
> weeks.
> it all started day-before-yesterday when job queue
> coordinator started thrwoing 4031 errora and dbwr
> crashed eventually. we increased the shared pool and
> again the crash happened the next day.
> 
> in 8i the shared memory was 120M and i had a shared
> memory of 200Mb initally in 9i (dont know why??)
> ,later increased to 300mb after the first crash,then
> to 650mb after the second crash(oracle's
> suggestion).oracle send me some events to be set in
> init.ota for 4031 errors and the trace that
> generated
> it seems has very little info to debug..not
> surprised..job queue coordinator,apparently wakes up
> every 5 seconds and there is some bug filed
> regarding
> excessive usage of sga by job queue coordinator.
> oracle suggested about the _job_queue_interval
> parameter and i went ahead and put that in setting
> it
> to the same value as in 8i. oracle sent me a script
> which added sharable_mem from v$db_objcect_cache and
> v$sqlarea and told me that i have to double the
> shared
> memeory. i dont hv a clue though i think this is not
> a
> right way to check the shared pool size. also the
> application is the same.nothing has changed and the
> number of processes in the database at any point of
> time is less than 50!!! does 9i require 5 times the
> size of share pool of 8i 
> has anyone faced this kind of issue? i have been
> sitting in front of the system for the past two days
> trying to figure out what is happening? cant
> question
> oracle..but why really mess around with job queue
> processes when that simple daemon has been working
> fine in all versions?
> 
> anycase,gurus please help me out on this.
> 
> thanks
> sai
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RE: shared memory issues in 9.2.0.3

2003-06-07 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
mark
very interesting.can you explain. is the ulimit which
we are talking here or something very different from
this

sai
--- Mark Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Check the setting for per process memory limits at
> the AIX level. In 4.3
> there is a bug that allowed processes to exceed
> there memory allocations.
> The bug is fixed in 5L so the per process memory
> limits are now enforced. We
> ran into this on our first upgrade to 5L and the
> symptom was 4031 errors
> from processes that ran just fine on 4.3.
> 
> Mark...
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sai Selvaganesan
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:50 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> hi
> we have upgraded a database from 8.1.7.4 on aix 4.3
> to
> 9.2.0.3 on 5l and was running fine for the past two
> weeks.
> it all started day-before-yesterday when job queue
> coordinator started thrwoing 4031 errora and dbwr
> crashed eventually. we increased the shared pool and
> again the crash happened the next day.
> 
> in 8i the shared memory was 120M and i had a shared
> memory of 200Mb initally in 9i (dont know why??)
> ,later increased to 300mb after the first crash,then
> to 650mb after the second crash(oracle's
> suggestion).oracle send me some events to be set in
> init.ota for 4031 errors and the trace that
> generated
> it seems has very little info to debug..not
> surprised..job queue coordinator,apparently wakes up
> every 5 seconds and there is some bug filed
> regarding
> excessive usage of sga by job queue coordinator.
> oracle suggested about the _job_queue_interval
> parameter and i went ahead and put that in setting
> it
> to the same value as in 8i. oracle sent me a script
> which added sharable_mem from v$db_objcect_cache and
> v$sqlarea and told me that i have to double the
> shared
> memeory. i dont hv a clue though i think this is not
> a
> right way to check the shared pool size. also the
> application is the same.nothing has changed and the
> number of processes in the database at any point of
> time is less than 50!!! does 9i require 5 times the
> size of share pool of 8i 
> has anyone faced this kind of issue? i have been
> sitting in front of the system for the past two days
> trying to figure out what is happening? cant
> question
> oracle..but why really mess around with job queue
> processes when that simple daemon has been working
> fine in all versions?
> 
> anycase,gurus please help me out on this.
> 
> thanks
> sai
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RE: Setting database owner to sid

2003-06-07 Thread Richard Ji
If you are doing this just so you can use ipcs and be able to
tell the owner of shared memory and semaphore etc.  You should
check into sysresv.  It can tell you which sid owns what shared
memory segments and semaphores.

Richard

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Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:14 PM
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Hthis may be more trouble than I originally thought.  Dennis, you 
are right in how I installed Oracle.  I suspected something like this.  
Hmmm...(oh, I said that already).  Let me ponder on this a while.

Thanks to all who responded!

-D-


On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:14:20 -0800
DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dwayne - My guess is that you installed Oracle under the "oracle" account.
> This means the binaries are owned by Oracle. If you do an ls -l
> $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle, you will probably see the permissions something
> like:
> -rwsr-s--x   1 oracle   dba  4238 Jul 31  2000 oracle
> This means that when the Oracle binary is run it does a "setuid" so that it
> runs as Oracle no matter what who the user is. The alternative is to not do
> this, which would mean that the Oracle binary would run as the individual
> user that started it, but there would probably be permission problems
> between the Oracle server process and the user shadow processes.
>  You may find it simpler to install Oracle under each of these accounts.
> This takes up more space, but will allow you to upgrade each database
> independently. Or you may find what you are trying to accomplish is more
> trouble than it is worth.
> 
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 4:04 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Here is what I am trying to do:
> 
> I want to set up three different databases: test1, test2 and test3.
> Each database is created by a user named after the sid (i.e. test1,
> test2, etc).  I want each database to be owned by the user so that when
> I run ipcs to look at memory processes, each database is identified by a
> different owner.
> 
> Would someone point me in the right direction to accomplish this?
> Currently, every database is owned by the oracle account and I am having
> a tough time figuring this out.  I was hoping to rebuld these databases
> this weekend to reflect the above.  I am running Oracle8i on RedHat 8.0
> (will be upgrading to RHAS and Oracle9i in a few months).
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Dwayne
> 
> 
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RE: shared memory issues in 9.2.0.3

2003-06-07 Thread Mark Brooks
Check the setting for per process memory limits at the AIX level. In 4.3
there is a bug that allowed processes to exceed there memory allocations.
The bug is fixed in 5L so the per process memory limits are now enforced. We
ran into this on our first upgrade to 5L and the symptom was 4031 errors
from processes that ran just fine on 4.3.

Mark...

-Original Message-
Sai Selvaganesan
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:50 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


hi
we have upgraded a database from 8.1.7.4 on aix 4.3 to
9.2.0.3 on 5l and was running fine for the past two
weeks.
it all started day-before-yesterday when job queue
coordinator started thrwoing 4031 errora and dbwr
crashed eventually. we increased the shared pool and
again the crash happened the next day.

in 8i the shared memory was 120M and i had a shared
memory of 200Mb initally in 9i (dont know why??)
,later increased to 300mb after the first crash,then
to 650mb after the second crash(oracle's
suggestion).oracle send me some events to be set in
init.ota for 4031 errors and the trace that generated
it seems has very little info to debug..not
surprised..job queue coordinator,apparently wakes up
every 5 seconds and there is some bug filed regarding
excessive usage of sga by job queue coordinator.
oracle suggested about the _job_queue_interval
parameter and i went ahead and put that in setting it
to the same value as in 8i. oracle sent me a script
which added sharable_mem from v$db_objcect_cache and
v$sqlarea and told me that i have to double the shared
memeory. i dont hv a clue though i think this is not a
right way to check the shared pool size. also the
application is the same.nothing has changed and the
number of processes in the database at any point of
time is less than 50!!! does 9i require 5 times the
size of share pool of 8i 
has anyone faced this kind of issue? i have been
sitting in front of the system for the past two days
trying to figure out what is happening? cant question
oracle..but why really mess around with job queue
processes when that simple daemon has been working
fine in all versions?

anycase,gurus please help me out on this.

thanks
sai
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Re: shared memory issues in 9.2.0.3

2003-06-07 Thread M Rafiq
If you are using java objects then consider it to increae it to 100M or near 
about it. You can check free memory in java pool before deciding...

Regards
Rafiq


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 13:39:54 -0800
java pool size is set to 60 M in our environment.
sai
M Rafiq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Have you using java or by default any java objects installed. Ckeck for size
of java pool which has default of 20M. If yes, try to increase size of java
pool to min 50M. I have read some place that in newer version this 4031
message is misleading and may be result of java pool size.
Regards
Rafiq


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Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 10:49:46 -0800
hi
we have upgraded a database from 8.1.7.4 on aix 4.3 to
9.2.0.3 on 5l and was running fine for the past two
weeks.
it all started day-before-yesterday when job queue
coordinator started thrwoing 4031 errora and dbwr
crashed eventually. we increased the shared pool and
again the crash happened the next day.
in 8i the shared memory was 120M and i had a shared
memory of 200Mb initally in 9i (dont know why??)
,later increased to 300mb after the first crash,then
to 650mb after the second crash(oracle's
suggestion).oracle send me some events to be set in
init.ota for 4031 errors and the trace that generated
it seems has very little info to debug..not
surprised..job queue coordinator,apparently wakes up
every 5 seconds and there is some bug filed regarding
excessive usage of sga by job queue coordinator.
oracle suggested about the _job_queue_interval
parameter and i went ahead and put that in setting it
to the same value as in 8i. oracle sent me a script
which added sharable_mem from v$db_objcect_cache and
v$sqlarea and told me that i have to double the shared
memeory. i dont hv a clue though i think this is not a
right way to check the shared pool size. also the
application is the same.nothing has changed and the
number of processes in the database at any point of
time is less than 50!!! does 9i require 5 times the
size of share pool of 8i 
has anyone faced this kind of issue? i have been
sitting in front of the system for the past two days
trying to figure out what is happening? cant question
oracle..but why really mess around with job queue
processes when that simple daemon has been working
fine in all versions?
anycase,gurus please help me out on this.

thanks
sai
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Re: Setting database owner to sid

2003-06-07 Thread Dwayne Cox
Hthis may be more trouble than I originally thought.  Dennis, you 
are right in how I installed Oracle.  I suspected something like this.  
Hmmm...(oh, I said that already).  Let me ponder on this a while.

Thanks to all who responded!

-D-


On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:14:20 -0800
DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dwayne - My guess is that you installed Oracle under the "oracle" account.
> This means the binaries are owned by Oracle. If you do an ls -l
> $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle, you will probably see the permissions something
> like:
> -rwsr-s--x   1 oracle   dba  4238 Jul 31  2000 oracle
> This means that when the Oracle binary is run it does a "setuid" so that it
> runs as Oracle no matter what who the user is. The alternative is to not do
> this, which would mean that the Oracle binary would run as the individual
> user that started it, but there would probably be permission problems
> between the Oracle server process and the user shadow processes.
>  You may find it simpler to install Oracle under each of these accounts.
> This takes up more space, but will allow you to upgrade each database
> independently. Or you may find what you are trying to accomplish is more
> trouble than it is worth.
> 
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 4:04 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Here is what I am trying to do:
> 
> I want to set up three different databases: test1, test2 and test3.
> Each database is created by a user named after the sid (i.e. test1,
> test2, etc).  I want each database to be owned by the user so that when
> I run ipcs to look at memory processes, each database is identified by a
> different owner.
> 
> Would someone point me in the right direction to accomplish this?
> Currently, every database is owned by the oracle account and I am having
> a tough time figuring this out.  I was hoping to rebuld these databases
> this weekend to reflect the above.  I am running Oracle8i on RedHat 8.0
> (will be upgrading to RHAS and Oracle9i in a few months).
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Dwayne
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dwayne Cox
> Corporate Database Administrator
> Info Tech, Inc.
> 5700 SW 34th Street, Suite 1235
> Gainesville, FL  32608
> 
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RE: Setting database owner to sid

2003-06-07 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Dwayne - My guess is that you installed Oracle under the "oracle" account.
This means the binaries are owned by Oracle. If you do an ls -l
$ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle, you will probably see the permissions something
like:
-rwsr-s--x   1 oracle   dba  4238 Jul 31  2000 oracle
This means that when the Oracle binary is run it does a "setuid" so that it
runs as Oracle no matter what who the user is. The alternative is to not do
this, which would mean that the Oracle binary would run as the individual
user that started it, but there would probably be permission problems
between the Oracle server process and the user shadow processes.
 You may find it simpler to install Oracle under each of these accounts.
This takes up more space, but will allow you to upgrade each database
independently. Or you may find what you are trying to accomplish is more
trouble than it is worth.

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Hi all,

Here is what I am trying to do:

I want to set up three different databases: test1, test2 and test3.
Each database is created by a user named after the sid (i.e. test1,
test2, etc).  I want each database to be owned by the user so that when
I run ipcs to look at memory processes, each database is identified by a
different owner.

Would someone point me in the right direction to accomplish this?
Currently, every database is owned by the oracle account and I am having
a tough time figuring this out.  I was hoping to rebuld these databases
this weekend to reflect the above.  I am running Oracle8i on RedHat 8.0
(will be upgrading to RHAS and Oracle9i in a few months).

Thanks in advance for your help.
Dwayne


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Re: shared memory issues in 9.2.0.3

2003-06-07 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
java pool size is set to 60 M in our environment.
saiM Rafiq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Have you using java or by default any java objects installed. Ckeck for size of java pool which has default of 20M. If yes, try to increase size of java pool to min 50M. I have read some place that in newer version this 4031 message is misleading and may be result of java pool size.RegardsRafiqReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 10:49:46 -0800hiwe have upgraded a database from 8.1.7.4 on aix 4.3 to9.2.0.3 on 5l and was running fine for the past twoweeks.it all started day-before-yesterday when job queuecoordinator started thrwoing 4031 errora and dbwrcrashed eventually. we increased the shared pool andagain the crash happened the next day.in 8i the shared memory was 120M and i had a sharedmemory of 200Mb initally !
in 9i (dont know why??),later increased to 300mb after the first crash,thento 650mb after the second crash(oracle'ssuggestion).oracle send me some events to be set ininit.ota for 4031 errors and the trace that generatedit seems has very little info to debug..notsurprised..job queue coordinator,apparently wakes upevery 5 seconds and there is some bug filed regardingexcessive usage of sga by job queue coordinator.oracle suggested about the _job_queue_intervalparameter and i went ahead and put that in setting itto the same value as in 8i. oracle sent me a scriptwhich added sharable_mem from v$db_objcect_cache andv$sqlarea and told me that i have to double the sharedmemeory. i dont hv a clue though i think this is not aright way to check the shared pool size. also theapplication is the same.nothing has changed and thenumber of processes in the database at any point oftime is less than 50!!! does 9i require 5 t!
imes thesize of share pool of 8i has anyone faced this kind of issue? i have beensitting in front of the system for the past two daystrying to figure out what is happening? cant questionoracle..but why really mess around with job queueprocesses when that simple daemon has been workingfine in all versions?anycase,gurus please help me out on this.thankssai--Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net--Author: Sai SelvaganesanINET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list!
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RE: buffer busy waits, unique index, p3=1?

2003-06-07 Thread John Clarke

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Setting database owner to sid

2003-06-07 Thread Dwayne Cox
Hi all,

Here is what I am trying to do:

I want to set up three different databases: test1, test2 and test3.
Each database is created by a user named after the sid (i.e. test1,
test2, etc).  I want each database to be owned by the user so that when
I run ipcs to look at memory processes, each database is identified by a
different owner.

Would someone point me in the right direction to accomplish this?
Currently, every database is owned by the oracle account and I am having
a tough time figuring this out.  I was hoping to rebuld these databases
this weekend to reflect the above.  I am running Oracle8i on RedHat 8.0
(will be upgrading to RHAS and Oracle9i in a few months).

Thanks in advance for your help.
Dwayne


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Re: Chris: Thank you!

2003-06-07 Thread M Rafiq
Yes, it is 5.1.22.1 and still keep running successfully.

Regards

Rafiq



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That's fantastic. I'd be delighted with the version 4. Funny that a 5.0.22 
(or is it 5.1.22?) is still alive and kicking out there.

M Rafiq wrote:

Mogens,

I am very far away from my employer otherwise I could have sent you 5.25" 
disks for Oracle version 4 under DOS for your museum. That employer is 
still using successfully version 5.0.22.1 under Unix. We started that 
version in 1988.

Regards
Rafiq
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I have to tell you this, my friends:

Today, a package arrived here in Maaloev on the oak table. It contained 
Oracle version 5.1.C and 6.0 on 5.25'' diskettes.

The sender was Chris G. from Nokesville, VA.

This will go right into the Oracle Museum, and I hope to be able to let you 
guys one day try to install version 5 on a DOS PC at some future 
conference.

Chris - I owe you a case of beer or two. And your name will be forever 
saved in the Oracle Museum.

Thank you.

Mogens

PS. Version 5 and 6 docs are most welcome, if anyone can live without them.

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Re: shared memory issues in 9.2.0.3

2003-06-07 Thread M Rafiq
Have you using java or by default any java objects installed. Ckeck for size 
of java pool which has default of 20M. If yes, try to increase size of java 
pool to min 50M.  I have read some place that in newer version this 4031 
message is misleading and may be result of java pool size.

Regards
Rafiq


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 10:49:46 -0800
hi
we have upgraded a database from 8.1.7.4 on aix 4.3 to
9.2.0.3 on 5l and was running fine for the past two
weeks.
it all started day-before-yesterday when job queue
coordinator started thrwoing 4031 errora and dbwr
crashed eventually. we increased the shared pool and
again the crash happened the next day.
in 8i the shared memory was 120M and i had a shared
memory of 200Mb initally in 9i (dont know why??)
,later increased to 300mb after the first crash,then
to 650mb after the second crash(oracle's
suggestion).oracle send me some events to be set in
init.ota for 4031 errors and the trace that generated
it seems has very little info to debug..not
surprised..job queue coordinator,apparently wakes up
every 5 seconds and there is some bug filed regarding
excessive usage of sga by job queue coordinator.
oracle suggested about the _job_queue_interval
parameter and i went ahead and put that in setting it
to the same value as in 8i. oracle sent me a script
which added sharable_mem from v$db_objcect_cache and
v$sqlarea and told me that i have to double the shared
memeory. i dont hv a clue though i think this is not a
right way to check the shared pool size. also the
application is the same.nothing has changed and the
number of processes in the database at any point of
time is less than 50!!! does 9i require 5 times the
size of share pool of 8i 
has anyone faced this kind of issue? i have been
sitting in front of the system for the past two days
trying to figure out what is happening? cant question
oracle..but why really mess around with job queue
processes when that simple daemon has been working
fine in all versions?
anycase,gurus please help me out on this.

thanks
sai
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shared memory issues in 9.2.0.3

2003-06-07 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi
we have upgraded a database from 8.1.7.4 on aix 4.3 to
9.2.0.3 on 5l and was running fine for the past two
weeks.
it all started day-before-yesterday when job queue
coordinator started thrwoing 4031 errora and dbwr
crashed eventually. we increased the shared pool and
again the crash happened the next day.

in 8i the shared memory was 120M and i had a shared
memory of 200Mb initally in 9i (dont know why??)
,later increased to 300mb after the first crash,then
to 650mb after the second crash(oracle's
suggestion).oracle send me some events to be set in
init.ota for 4031 errors and the trace that generated
it seems has very little info to debug..not
surprised..job queue coordinator,apparently wakes up
every 5 seconds and there is some bug filed regarding
excessive usage of sga by job queue coordinator.
oracle suggested about the _job_queue_interval
parameter and i went ahead and put that in setting it
to the same value as in 8i. oracle sent me a script
which added sharable_mem from v$db_objcect_cache and
v$sqlarea and told me that i have to double the shared
memeory. i dont hv a clue though i think this is not a
right way to check the shared pool size. also the
application is the same.nothing has changed and the
number of processes in the database at any point of
time is less than 50!!! does 9i require 5 times the
size of share pool of 8i 
has anyone faced this kind of issue? i have been
sitting in front of the system for the past two days
trying to figure out what is happening? cant question
oracle..but why really mess around with job queue
processes when that simple daemon has been working
fine in all versions?

anycase,gurus please help me out on this.

thanks
sai
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Re: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink o

2003-06-07 Thread Mladen Gogala
Why don't you try it? Create a small database on Alpha, rcp it to
HP and see what happens.

On 2003.06.07 09:39 DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
> K
>   I'm looking to move a large database from HP/Compaq/DEC Alpha to Sun. Any
> possibility the datafiles might be compatible?
> 
> Sashidar
>   This was discussed quite a bit on this list 5/14, the subject was
> "quickest method". The consensus seemed to be that:
>   1. SQL*Loader in direct path mode is the fastest. The catch is the hassle
> of getting the data out to a flat file and creating a loader control file.
>   2. Database links and exp/imp are roughly the same speed, so you have to
> test to see which will be fastest for your situation.
> I plan to test these various methods in our environment, since the downtime
> window will be rather small.
>Consider using the 80/20 principle (Pareto's Rule). Typically, just a
> handful of tables contain most of the data. In my case, a single table
> contains about 25% of the data. It is worth the effort to develop a method
> to dump the data to a flat file and to create a loader control file if that
> is the fastest method. For the many small files, just use exp/imp. Please
> update me on any conclusions you reach since this topic is of significant
> interest to me. Thanks.
> 
> Dennis Williams
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> or ..
> 
> 
> Sashidar:
> 
> 
> In THEORY HP datafiles and Sun data files are compaible. That is you
> can just move the HP data files to the Sun server and recreate the data
> files. Both data files are in same endianness and they are cross
> platform compatible.
> 
> There is no tool to convert a datafile from one OS format to another OS
> format. Some time back, some one (Guess who??) tried developing a tool
> and the idea was dropped since Oracle started addressing this issue as
> a standard feature inside the RDBMS product. So there is no third party
> tool available in the market to do that conversion and I don't expect
> any new tools to do that.
> 
> Having said that, that above said method is NOT officially supported by
> Oracle in current versions. You have to wait for some more time to get
> that officially supported by Oracle (clue!!)
> 
> If you have a faster interconnect CTAS will be much faster than export
> import method, I remember seeing some comparitive numbers in Metalink..
> Have you checked that?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> =
> Have a nice day !!
> 
> Best Regards,
> K Gopalakrishnan,
> Bangalore, INDIA.
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RE: ORA-03113 After Pathc 8.1.7.4

2003-06-07 Thread Ramon E. Estevez
That's it.  I ran it again and everything ok.

Tks

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Did you re-run the glibc stub patch after applying 8.1.7.4?

Richard

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Platform suse linux professional 7.2 

Sorry :-(

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Hi list,

I installed the patch 8.1.7.4 and now when trying to start the instance
I get ORA-03113 after like 1 minute.

I followed the steps in the readme file of the patch.

TIA,

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Re: Oracle's use of Indexes

2003-06-07 Thread Jared Still

Yes, I have such a tool also.  Unfortunately for me, when
I try to use it on my most problem child database, it barfs
and dies with and ORA-3113.  Seems 'explain plan' chokes and
dies on complex plans, such as when evaluating the execution
path for an insert that goes through an 'on insert' trigger.

This is 8.1.7.4, the bug was supposedly fixed by then.

Guess what the fix is now?  You guessed it, 'just upgrade
your database'.  Simon Travaglia must work for Oracle.

Jared

On Friday 06 June 2003 18:09, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
> Yes.
>
> I'm not even trying to be more than just moderately funny about this,
> but yes, you should worry about stats going wroing and yes it happens.
> But not very often. The way forward is to monitor the execution plans of
> your important SQL's, I think. Well, it's one of many ways forward.
> Peter Gram built a free and very simple tool for use against 7.3.4
> recently, which will send the DBA and/or Development chief an email when
> an execution plan changes. It might be for the better, it might be for
> the worse. But it changed. Then you can investigate why the plan
> changed, and here there could be many, many reasons.
>
> Mogens
>
> Mogens
>
> Craig Healey wrote:
> >Thanks for all the suggestions.
> >After playing about, it was apparent that the stats were wrong for the
> >table and screwing up the CBO. I had done analyze ... calculate, but
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RE: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink o

2003-06-07 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
K
  I'm looking to move a large database from HP/Compaq/DEC Alpha to Sun. Any
possibility the datafiles might be compatible?

Sashidar
  This was discussed quite a bit on this list 5/14, the subject was
"quickest method". The consensus seemed to be that:
  1. SQL*Loader in direct path mode is the fastest. The catch is the hassle
of getting the data out to a flat file and creating a loader control file.
  2. Database links and exp/imp are roughly the same speed, so you have to
test to see which will be fastest for your situation.
I plan to test these various methods in our environment, since the downtime
window will be rather small.
   Consider using the 80/20 principle (Pareto's Rule). Typically, just a
handful of tables contain most of the data. In my case, a single table
contains about 25% of the data. It is worth the effort to develop a method
to dump the data to a flat file and to create a loader control file if that
is the fastest method. For the many small files, just use exp/imp. Please
update me on any conclusions you reach since this topic is of significant
interest to me. Thanks.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Sashidar:


In THEORY HP datafiles and Sun data files are compaible. That is you
can just move the HP data files to the Sun server and recreate the data
files. Both data files are in same endianness and they are cross
platform compatible.

There is no tool to convert a datafile from one OS format to another OS
format. Some time back, some one (Guess who??) tried developing a tool
and the idea was dropped since Oracle started addressing this issue as
a standard feature inside the RDBMS product. So there is no third party
tool available in the market to do that conversion and I don't expect
any new tools to do that.

Having said that, that above said method is NOT officially supported by
Oracle in current versions. You have to wait for some more time to get
that officially supported by Oracle (clue!!)

If you have a faster interconnect CTAS will be much faster than export
import method, I remember seeing some comparitive numbers in Metalink..
Have you checked that?




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RE: Benchmarking of ASP.NET with Oracle v/s MSSQL

2003-06-07 Thread Niall Litchfield
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I'm 
not really aware of any objective tests, though I think back in the early days 
of this stuff there were a couple of different pet-store apps written by MS and 
Oracle. I'd strongly suggest though that you are likely to find that you need to 
code appropriately for oracle when using Oracle{bind variables, maybe 
materialized views/query rewrite, whatever) and appropriately for MSSQL when 
using MSSQL. 
 

Niall 

  
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  RE: Benchmarking of ASP.NET with Oracle v/s MSSQL
  Really want an objective study.  Would like to find out 
  if ASP.net against Oracle has any performance limitations as compared to 
  ASP.NET against MSSQL.  Also, would like to know if there are any 
  maintenance/administration/coding limitations.  Does going against ORacle 
  provide a lot of hardship for developers and what kind?
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  > Anybody done performance benchmarking of a 
  typical ASP.NET > application with IIS(or any web 
  server) with Oracle > database(9.2) v/s MS SQL 
  Server.(Latest version)  > Any pointers for 
  the same is most appreciated. If there is > any 
  document on which POC has been done, plz mail to my id. > FYI: 80% of the transactions are DB intensive. So, any 
  > guidelines for the same will be useful to me. 
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Re: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or ..

2003-06-07 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Sashidar:


In THEORY HP datafiles and Sun data files are compaible. That is you
can just move the HP data files to the Sun server and recreate the data
files. Both data files are in same endianness and they are cross
platform compatible.

There is no tool to convert a datafile from one OS format to another OS
format. Some time back, some one (Guess who??) tried developing a tool
and the idea was dropped since Oracle started addressing this issue as
a standard feature inside the RDBMS product. So there is no third party
tool available in the market to do that conversion and I don't expect
any new tools to do that.

Having said that, that above said method is NOT officially supported by
Oracle in current versions. You have to wait for some more time to get
that officially supported by Oracle (clue!!)

If you have a faster interconnect CTAS will be much faster than export
import method, I remember seeing some comparitive numbers in Metalink..
Have you checked that?




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Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan,
Bangalore, INDIA.
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HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or ..

2003-06-07 Thread Sashidhar Kondareddy
Hi all:

We are considering migration of an Oracle eBusiness Suite 11.5.8 from 
HP-UX 11.0 to Solaris9.

I'd like to know if anyone has done this and how daunting the task is.

Are there any 3rd Party tools which can help out?

Coming to the conventional approaches:

1. What do you think of Export/Import of a 200 GB database? 
1a. How much time will it take? 
1b. Any strategies for cutting that down?

2. How does CTAS over dblink compare to Export/Import?

3.  Is there any tool that converts Oracle datafiles on HP-UX 11.0 to 
Oracle datafiles on Solaris 9. If so we would just need to recreate the 
control files on the target database and we are done. 

Any suggestions, pointers, words of wisdom are greatly appreciated...

Thanks & Regards,
Sashi
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Quest People

2003-06-07 Thread Maria Aurora de la Vega
Hello,

I'm looking for listers who happen to work for Quest.

I would like to get information as to who/how to contact the marketing
(?) dept.
We are interested in reselling Quest products/becoming a Quest partner.
We have sent email to the address indicated in your corporate website,
but we still have not received any replies yet.

I hope someone from Quest can read this and can forward this query to
the right person.

Thanks a lot.


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ifrun60_dump_1240

2003-06-07 Thread Walid Alkaakati

HiList ,

Please i need your help on this urgent issue ,while inserting on forms  iam
facing from time to time  by  this
error ifrun60_dump_1240   and the form exit  immediatly ,some
developers  consulted metalink they
said   open the form and recompile  all ,i did  that but the error is
appearing  once again from time to time
what   i have to do ?  has any one encounterd this before  ??


Thanks for any help.


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