Questions on java

2003-07-04 Thread purushottam krishna hegde
hi all,

can i post questions on java and j2ee PF here?
waiting for +ve response for all of u
thanking all
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RE: FTP command -without user interaction

2003-07-04 Thread Saminathan_Seerangan




Hi Bruce,

Thanks for you response. Yes it is Windows environment.
I did follow exactly what you have mentioned in your mail, but i have
problem in login.

Could you please let me where i'm going wrong?

D:\Oracletype ftp_script.txt
open psrsndb2
oracle
temp123
cd sami
get 1.sql
quit
D:\Oracleftp -s:ftp_script.txt
ftp open psrsndb2
Connected to psrsndb2.i2.com.
220 psrsndb2 FTP server (SunOS 5.8) ready.
User (psrsndb2.i2.com:(none)):
331 Password required for oracle .

530 Login incorrect.
Login failed.
ftp
ftp cd sami
530 Please login with USER and PASS.
ftp get 1.sql
530 Please login with USER and PASS.
530 Please login with USER and PASS.
ftp quit
221 Goodbye.

D:\Oracleftp psrsndb2
Connected to psrsndb2.i2.com.
220 psrsndb2 FTP server (SunOS 5.8) ready.
User (psrsndb2.i2.com:(none)): oracle
331 Password required for oracle.
Password:
230 User oracle logged in.
ftp cd sami
250 CWD command successful.
ftp get 1.sql
200 PORT command successful.
150 ASCII data connection for 1.sql (10.153.11.3,4723) (238 bytes).
226 ASCII Transfer complete.
ftp: 245 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 245000.00Kbytes/sec.
ftp bye
221 Goodbye.

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What OS?
Since you say batch file I will presume Windows.

Use the -s:filename parameter and pass a scriptfile to the ftp command
You can generate the scriptfile on the fly with echo commands and 
symbol redirection:

eg:

   echo verbose off %ftp_tfile%
   echo open %ftp_tgt_node% %ftp_tfile%
   echo %ftp_tgt_user% %ftp_tfile%
   echo %ftp_tgt_pwd% %ftp_tfile%
   echo type ascii %ftp_tfile%
   echo cd %3 %ftp_tfile%
   echo put %1%2 %ftp_tfile%
   echo bye %ftp_tfile%

 rem Do the actual ftp using this script file
 rem TYPE %ftp_tfile%
   ftp -s:%ftp_tfile%

Example:

C:\Temptype ftpscript.ftp
open mynode
username
secretpassword
type ascii
cd sys$login
get login.com
bye
C:\Tempftp -s:ftpscript.ftp
ftp open mynode
Connected to mynode.
220 mynode FTP Server (Version V4.1-12) Ready.
User (mynode:(none)):
331 Username USERNAME requires a Password.

230 User logged in.
ftp
ftp type ascii
200 TYPE set to ASCII.
ftp cd sys$login
250 CWD command succesful.
ftp get login.com
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening data connection for login.com (a.b.c.d,2828)
226 Transfer complete.
ftp: 1570 bytes received in 0.20Seconds 7.85Kbytes/sec.
ftp bye
221 Goodbye.

C:\Temp

HTH,
Bruce Reardon

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Hi All,

How to execute FTP command without interaction. Basically i want to supply
hostname,username,passwors,filename thru batch script.

For example

ftp hostname userName passWord fileName

Could someone help me to do the same?

Thanks
Sami
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Re: FTP command -without user interaction

2003-07-04 Thread Amit Nargotra
That was about ftp. That is fine. Can anyone help on how to execute the
batch file (.bat) or windows executable file (.exe) using Oracle
Procedure...?

Thanks,
Amit Nargotra

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 What OS?
 Since you say batch file I will presume Windows.

 Use the -s:filename parameter and pass a scriptfile to the ftp command
 You can generate the scriptfile on the fly with echo commands and 
symbol redirection:

 eg:

echo verbose off %ftp_tfile%
echo open %ftp_tgt_node% %ftp_tfile%
echo %ftp_tgt_user% %ftp_tfile%
echo %ftp_tgt_pwd% %ftp_tfile%
echo type ascii %ftp_tfile%
echo cd %3 %ftp_tfile%
echo put %1%2 %ftp_tfile%
echo bye %ftp_tfile%

 rem Do the actual ftp using this script file
rem TYPE %ftp_tfile%
ftp -s:%ftp_tfile%

 Example:

 C:\Temptype ftpscript.ftp
 open mynode
 username
 secretpassword
 type ascii
 cd sys$login
 get login.com
 bye
 C:\Tempftp -s:ftpscript.ftp
 ftp open mynode
 Connected to mynode.
 220 mynode FTP Server (Version V4.1-12) Ready.
 User (mynode:(none)):
 331 Username USERNAME requires a Password.

 230 User logged in.
 ftp
 ftp type ascii
 200 TYPE set to ASCII.
 ftp cd sys$login
 250 CWD command succesful.
 ftp get login.com
 200 PORT command successful.
 150 Opening data connection for login.com (a.b.c.d,2828)
 226 Transfer complete.
 ftp: 1570 bytes received in 0.20Seconds 7.85Kbytes/sec.
 ftp bye
 221 Goodbye.

 C:\Temp

 HTH,
 Bruce Reardon

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, 4 July 2003 4:09 PM

 Hi All,

 How to execute FTP command without interaction. Basically i want to supply
 hostname,username,passwors,filename thru batch script.

 For example

 ftp hostname userName passWord fileName

 Could someone help me to do the same?

 Thanks
 Sami
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RE: Oracle 9 on redhat 9...kernal settings

2003-07-04 Thread Jack van Zanen
Hi Jared,


I ventured into my first red hat install not to long ago, but these
parameters do do need a kernel rebuild (afaik)


Jack


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Unless you've run into errors requiring adjustment of these parameters,
don't bother with them.

I've run 4 databases on a 2Gig RAM RH 7.1 box without ever touching these.

Modifying them requires rebuilding the kernel, which can be quite a 
hassle.

It also invalidates Oracle support on linux.

Jared





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I have 512 MB RAM in my Redhat Linux intel machine running Oracle 9.

What should I set the Kernal parameters to. shmmax, shmmni, shmall, 
sem


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RE: RE: Performance

2003-07-04 Thread Stephane Faroult
Ramon,

   Whatever the plan, your stats border on the insignificant (I mean these are very 
small values and it shouldn't even take 2mn to run). Set TIMED_STATISTICS to TRUE if 
this is not already done and check system events. There is something unorthodox going 
on - not purely a matter of SQL processing.

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Stephane,

I continue having the same problem, in LAB 2
minutes and in PRODUCTION
forever. I made the changes you indicate me.  

This is the explain plan in LAB, NO STATISTICS with
data from yesterday


Execution Plan
   0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE
   10   SORT (GROUP BY)
   21 NESTED LOOPS
   32   VIEW
   43 SORT (GROUP BY)
   54   TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID)
OF 'TCON_ACUM'
   65 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF
'IDX_ACUM_02' (NON-UNIQUE)
   72   TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF
'TCON_ACUM'
   87 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF
'IDX_ACUM_02' (NON-UNIQUE)




Statistics
  0  recursive calls
  0  db block gets
311  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
353  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
   1159  bytes received via SQL*Net from client

  3  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  2  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
  1  rows processed

-
This the explain plan in PRODUCTION.


Execution Plan
   0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=9
Card=1 Bytes=53)
   10   SORT (GROUP BY) (Cost=9 Card=1
Bytes=53)
   21 NESTED LOOPS (Cost=7 Card=1 Bytes=53)

   32   VIEW (Cost=6 Card=1 Bytes=15)
   43 SORT (GROUP BY) (Cost=6 Card=1
Bytes=26)
   54   TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF
'TCON_ACUM' (Cost=4 Card=1
  Bytes=26)

   62   TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF
'TCON_ACUM' (Cost=2 C
  ard=1 Bytes=38)

   76 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF
'IDX_ACUM_02' (NON-UNIQUE) (Co
  st=3 Card=1)





Statistics
  0  recursive calls
  4  db block gets
108  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
245  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
981  bytes received via SQL*Net from client

  3  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  2  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
  1  rows processed

Ramon E. Estevez
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Stephane Faroult
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:16 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Ramon,

I have had a closer look at your coe. My gut
feeling is that 
 
SELECT MAX(A.ACM_FECACUM),
   Nvl(A.ACM_ACUMDBANT,0) -
   nvl(A.ACM_ACUMCRANT,0) +
   nvl(A.ACM_ACUMDB,0)-
   nvl(A.ACM_ACUMCR,0)
into   vFechaIni, vSaldoAnt
from  tcon_acum A,
  (select ACM_Oficina,
  ACM_Moneda,
 
nvl(max(TRUNC(ACM_FECACUM)), '2001/01/01')
MAXFECACUM
   FROM TCON_ACUM
   WHERE
 Acm_codigo   = pCuenta
  AND
 ACM_Sucursal = i
   GROUP BY ACM_Oficina,
ACM_Moneda) T
where
   A.acm_codigo= pCuenta   
  AND
   A.acm_sucursal  = i 
 AND
   T.ACM_Oficina  = A.ACM_Oficina 
AND
   T.ACM_Moneda   = A.ACM_MOneda
AND
  TRUNC(A.ACM_FECACUM)  =
T.MAXFECACUM
 GROUP BY Nvl(A.ACM_ACUMDBANT,0),
nvl(A.ACM_ACUMCRANT,0),
nvl(A.ACM_ACUMDB,0),   
nvl(A.ACM_ACUMCR,0);
   nvl(A.ACM_ACUMDB,0),nvl(A.ACM_ACUMCR,0);


would return the same thing as what you have, only
faster. On first
readin I had not noticed that you IN (SELECT ...)
was correlated. Ouch.
If ACM_CODIGO and ACM_SUCURSAL are indexed (and the
index is
discriminant enough), and if (ACM_OFICINA,
ACM_MONEDA) are also
separately indexed (with the same restriction as
before), it should run
reasonably fast.

Ramon E. Estevez wrote:
 
 Tks Stephane and Madlen,
 
 Still the same problem.
 
 I added the hint /*+ FIRST_ROWS */ to the query
that invoke the 
 function and it changed from FTS to use Index but
still have the same 
 problem.  I added the same hint to the function
and Nothing.
 
 I checked the v$session_wait during the execution
of the procedure and

 the only thing that Was waiting was SQL NET TO
CLIENT MESSAGE.
 
 Ramon E. Estevez
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 809-535-8994
 
 -Original Message-
 Stephane Faroult
 Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:15 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 Ramon,
 
 This is not a strange case at all; I find
quite customary to see 
 dazzling fast queries in a development
environment crawl 

AW: calling an external procedure

2003-07-04 Thread Foelz.Frank
This line jumps out:

 create library zPrintString as 'c:/newsys/bin/PrintString.dll';

Any difference if you change those to backslashes?


:-)))

yes, indeed ! that's it ! works perfectly now !

TNX to all of you, who helped a blind man ;-)


 Frank 

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RE: {SPAM?} Re: {SPAM?} Re: fine grained access

2003-07-04 Thread Robson, Peter

Then AUDIT it is (we don't have 9) - thanks, Arup...

peter
edinburgh

 
 Are you interested to know whether a select statement ran againt a
 particular table, only? Then AUDIT command will do the job nicely.
 
 However, if you want to record 'what' was selected from that 
 table, you need
 Fine Grained Auditing, which requires Oracle 9i.
 
 HTH.
 
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  Interesting threads.
 
  May I just seek the advice of the list on the alternative 
 means by which
 one
  might capture read only activity? We want to know if a 
 'select' statement
 is
  run against particular tables.
 
  peter
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   Subject: {SPAM?} Re: fine grained access
  
  
   Fine grained access control doesn't tell you who did what, it
   restricts
   users from doing certain things.
  
   If you want to just capture the changes, not the actual update
   statement, you can do this via triggers which insert into a
   copy of the
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Re: Oracle 9 on redhat 9...kernal settings

2003-07-04 Thread Jared Still

Must have changed when I wasn't looking.

On Friday 04 July 2003 01:34, Jack van Zanen wrote:
 Hi Jared,


 I ventured into my first red hat install not to long ago, but these
 parameters do do need a kernel rebuild (afaik)


 Jack


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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Unless you've run into errors requiring adjustment of these parameters,
 don't bother with them.

 I've run 4 databases on a 2Gig RAM RH 7.1 box without ever touching these.

 Modifying them requires rebuilding the kernel, which can be quite a
 hassle.

 It also invalidates Oracle support on linux.

 Jared





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 I have 512 MB RAM in my Redhat Linux intel machine running Oracle 9.

 What should I set the Kernal parameters to. shmmax, shmmni, shmall,
 sem
 

 JD

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Re: Questions on java

2003-07-04 Thread Jared Still

Yes, but you may not get any answers.

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RE: Oracle 9 on redhat 9...kernal settings

2003-07-04 Thread Markus Reger
standard kernel : no rebuild. 
just use sysctl -p
after writing yr preeferred settings into /etc/sysctl.conf

for advanced linux guys: they can be set directly - but the previous way is more 
convinient. 

in case you don't set them yr installation might hnag when creating the database 
instance. in this case just install the database later. means start dbassiost fter 
setting the kernel params. doesn't need a complete re-install.

kr 



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Hi Jared,


I ventured into my first red hat install not to long ago, but these
parameters do do need a kernel rebuild (afaik)


Jack


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Unless you've run into errors requiring adjustment of these parameters,
don't bother with them.

I've run 4 databases on a 2Gig RAM RH 7.1 box without ever touching these.

Modifying them requires rebuilding the kernel, which can be quite a 
hassle.

It also invalidates Oracle support on linux.

Jared





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I have 512 MB RAM in my Redhat Linux intel machine running Oracle 9.

What should I set the Kernal parameters to. shmmax, shmmni, shmall, 
sem


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Re: FTP command -without user interaction

2003-07-04 Thread Amit Nargotra
YOu have to check for your password. I am using same kind of job for working
with this batch file. All I do is use two files.. One batch file and
other the parameter file...
Below is the copy of the same...
===
Batch File
===
ftp -v -n -s:amit.txt
o--o--o
===
amit.txt contents
===
open 192.168.26.45
user anonymous try@
verbose
prompt
ascii
cd d/smsc5/server/input/
put amit.aut
close
o-o--o


Hope this helps


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 Hi Bruce,

 Thanks for you response. Yes it is Windows environment.
 I did follow exactly what you have mentioned in your mail, but i have
 problem in login.

 Could you please let me where i'm going wrong?

 D:\Oracletype ftp_script.txt
 open psrsndb2
 oracle
 temp123
 cd sami
 get 1.sql
 quit
 D:\Oracleftp -s:ftp_script.txt
 ftp open psrsndb2
 Connected to psrsndb2.i2.com.
 220 psrsndb2 FTP server (SunOS 5.8) ready.
 User (psrsndb2.i2.com:(none)):
 331 Password required for oracle .

 530 Login incorrect.
 Login failed.
 ftp
 ftp cd sami
 530 Please login with USER and PASS.
 ftp get 1.sql
 530 Please login with USER and PASS.
 530 Please login with USER and PASS.
 ftp quit
 221 Goodbye.

 D:\Oracleftp psrsndb2
 Connected to psrsndb2.i2.com.
 220 psrsndb2 FTP server (SunOS 5.8) ready.
 User (psrsndb2.i2.com:(none)): oracle
 331 Password required for oracle.
 Password:
 230 User oracle logged in.
 ftp cd sami
 250 CWD command successful.
 ftp get 1.sql
 200 PORT command successful.
 150 ASCII data connection for 1.sql (10.153.11.3,4723) (238 bytes).
 226 ASCII Transfer complete.
 ftp: 245 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 245000.00Kbytes/sec.
 ftp bye
 221 Goodbye.

 D:\Oracle








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 What OS?
 Since you say batch file I will presume Windows.

 Use the -s:filename parameter and pass a scriptfile to the ftp command
 You can generate the scriptfile on the fly with echo commands and 
 symbol redirection:

 eg:

echo verbose off %ftp_tfile%
echo open %ftp_tgt_node% %ftp_tfile%
echo %ftp_tgt_user% %ftp_tfile%
echo %ftp_tgt_pwd% %ftp_tfile%
echo type ascii %ftp_tfile%
echo cd %3 %ftp_tfile%
echo put %1%2 %ftp_tfile%
echo bye %ftp_tfile%

  rem Do the actual ftp using this script file
  rem TYPE %ftp_tfile%
ftp -s:%ftp_tfile%

 Example:

 C:\Temptype ftpscript.ftp
 open mynode
 username
 secretpassword
 type ascii
 cd sys$login
 get login.com
 bye
 C:\Tempftp -s:ftpscript.ftp
 ftp open mynode
 Connected to mynode.
 220 mynode FTP Server (Version V4.1-12) Ready.
 User (mynode:(none)):
 331 Username USERNAME requires a Password.

 230 User logged in.
 ftp
 ftp type ascii
 200 TYPE set to ASCII.
 ftp cd sys$login
 250 CWD command succesful.
 ftp get login.com
 200 PORT command successful.
 150 Opening data connection for login.com (a.b.c.d,2828)
 226 Transfer complete.
 ftp: 1570 bytes received in 0.20Seconds 7.85Kbytes/sec.
 ftp bye
 221 Goodbye.

 C:\Temp

 HTH,
 Bruce Reardon

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 Hi All,

 How to execute FTP command without interaction. Basically i want to supply
 hostname,username,passwors,filename thru batch script.

 For example

 ftp hostname userName passWord fileName

 Could someone help me to do the same?

 Thanks
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RE: Oracle DBA 9i Books ever needed.

2003-07-04 Thread Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson
 in the Hogwarts school of Oracle Wizardry
 Cary Dumbledore is probably the headmaster

Yes, and only because he looks very much like him.

 who will have the role of Lord Voldemort?

There really is only one possible answer to this but I won't say it public :-)

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Re: Oracle DBA 9i Books ever needed.

2003-07-04 Thread Nuno Souto
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 okay, now Jared will perform the crucias (sp? I don't have the book
 with me, I finished it and it's home) curse on me if I don't stop here
 and take this to the OT list.


Back on topic, reparo is for db recovery!
dr, I promise! sorry, Jared

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Re: Questions on java

2003-07-04 Thread Ryan



best pl,ace ive seen for java questions are the 
sun.com forums. 

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Re: Questions on java

2003-07-04 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

IMO, better not to ask offtopic questions, since this is a mailinglist 
there's no possibility to fine-grained control which mails hit our
mailboxes.

Tanel.

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 Yes, but you may not get any answers.

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RE: [PMX:##] Re: cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE trigger !

2003-07-04 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: [PMX:##] Re: cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE trigger 





This will teach you that you should be _very_ careful when dealing with sys schema.


what's that parameter to disable sys triggers ??


1. Call OWS 
2. If this is production DB, keep your resume ready.


Raj


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At first glance it appears that you have created a self referencing 
trigger.


You can't drop it, because dropping it fires the trigger.


Check metalink, open a TAR, etc.


Jared






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Help list... i have created the following in 8.1.5 instance


CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DDL_TRIGGER BEFORE
CREATE OR ALTER OR DROP ON DATABASE


BEGIN
 null;
END;
/


and now i cannot drop or disable this trigger 


ERROR at line 1:
ORA-04045: errors during recompilation/revalidation of SYS.DDL_TRIGGER



i'm loggin into svrmgrl and connecting as internal to try drop or 
disable..
is this a bug ??


TIA


Rahul..




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Re: Oracle 9 on redhat 9...kernal settings

2003-07-04 Thread Jared Still

Nice.  I haven't even looked at setting these parms in linux
in a couple years, didn't know this was available.

So, how do you set SHMMAX, etc on linux using sysctl?

The man pages weren't much help.

Jared

On Friday 04 July 2003 03:24, Markus Reger wrote:
 standard kernel : no rebuild.
 just use sysctl -p
 after writing yr preeferred settings into /etc/sysctl.conf

 for advanced linux guys: they can be set directly - but the previous way is
 more convinient.

 in case you don't set them yr installation might hnag when creating the
 database instance. in this case just install the database later. means
 start dbassiost fter setting the kernel params. doesn't need a complete
 re-install.

 kr

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/04/03 10:34 AM 

 Hi Jared,


 I ventured into my first red hat install not to long ago, but these
 parameters do do need a kernel rebuild (afaik)


 Jack


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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Unless you've run into errors requiring adjustment of these parameters,
 don't bother with them.

 I've run 4 databases on a 2Gig RAM RH 7.1 box without ever touching these.

 Modifying them requires rebuilding the kernel, which can be quite a
 hassle.

 It also invalidates Oracle support on linux.

 Jared





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 I have 512 MB RAM in my Redhat Linux intel machine running Oracle 9.

 What should I set the Kernal parameters to. shmmax, shmmni, shmall,
 sem
 

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Re: RE: Should percent increase higher than 0 in 817?

2003-07-04 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Yes, it does. 
(Sorry, Dan :). 

From OEM I see it set to 32765. 

OEM (9i R2) is still a bit dumb when it comes to undo segments,  as it allowed me to 
*attempt* to 
change Rollback Segment _SYSSMU1$ to alter its maxextents. 

I received an error, of course, and alert log contained following:

Fri Jul  4 11:15:48 2003
/* OracleOEM */ ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT _SYSSMU1$ STORAGE ( MAXEXTENTS UNLIMITED)
Fri Jul  4 11:15:48 2003
ORA-30019 signalled during: /* OracleOEM */ ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT _SYSSMU1$...

In OEM, I got to the Edit window for Rollback Segments via Tablespace - Dependencies 
route ;)   

- Kirti 


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 Don't know.  I bet Dan Fink does.
 
 He's in  the air right now on his way to Portland, so I guess he won't be 
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 I can ask him at lunch.  :)
 
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 does the 32k limit hold in 9i with undo tablespaces?

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  Due to bugs and limitations in the internal structure of rollback
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  ie. they aren't allowed more than 32k extents.
 
  See MetaLink note  50380.1
 
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   Guang,
  
  In temp I really don't watch anything.  In Rollback I
  watch for segments that are approaching maxextents and just plain 
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Re: [PMX:##] Re: cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE trigger !

2003-07-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
Parameter to disable database triggers is:

_system_trig_enabled = FALSE

This is 9i parameter. Alternatively, if you start the database up in the 
migrate mode, system triggers will be disable (startup migrate is what
you need)



On 2003.07.04 10:54, Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
This will teach you that you should be _very_ careful when dealing with sys
schema.
what's that parameter to disable sys triggers ??

1. Call OWS
2. If this is production DB, keep your resume ready.
Raj

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At first glance it appears that you have created a self referencing
trigger.
You can't drop it, because dropping it fires the trigger.

Check metalink, open a TAR, etc.

Jared





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Help list... i have created the following in 8.1.5 instance

CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DDL_TRIGGER BEFORE
CREATE OR ALTER OR DROP ON DATABASE
BEGIN
null;
END;
/
and now i cannot drop or disable this trigger 

ERROR at line 1:
ORA-04045: errors during recompilation/revalidation of SYS.DDL_TRIGGER
i'm loggin into svrmgrl and connecting as internal to try drop or
disable..
is this a bug ??
TIA

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Re: Oracle 9 on redhat 9...kernal settings

2003-07-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
The macho way is: echo 1073741824  /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax.
If you put the line
kernel.shmmax = 1073741824 in your /etc/sysctl.conf, RH Linux will do
that for you during the next startup. When you do that, you should remember
two things:
a) Don't panic!
b) Always have your documentation CD and a towel with you.
Now, it's the time for me to hit the beach (Golf Beach, Milford CT if somebody
is interested.) Happy 4th of July to everybody!
On 2003.07.04 13:39, Jared Still wrote:
Nice.  I haven't even looked at setting these parms in linux
in a couple years, didn't know this was available.
So, how do you set SHMMAX, etc on linux using sysctl?

The man pages weren't much help.

Jared

On Friday 04 July 2003 03:24, Markus Reger wrote:
 standard kernel : no rebuild.
 just use sysctl -p
 after writing yr preeferred settings into /etc/sysctl.conf

 for advanced linux guys: they can be set directly - but the previous way is
 more convinient.

 in case you don't set them yr installation might hnag when creating the
 database instance. in this case just install the database later. means
 start dbassiost fter setting the kernel params. doesn't need a complete
 re-install.

 kr

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/04/03 10:34 AM 

 Hi Jared,


 I ventured into my first red hat install not to long ago, but these
 parameters do do need a kernel rebuild (afaik)


 Jack


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 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 7:21 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Unless you've run into errors requiring adjustment of these parameters,
 don't bother with them.

 I've run 4 databases on a 2Gig RAM RH 7.1 box without ever touching these.

 Modifying them requires rebuilding the kernel, which can be quite a
 hassle.

 It also invalidates Oracle support on linux.

 Jared





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 I have 512 MB RAM in my Redhat Linux intel machine running Oracle 9.

 What should I set the Kernal parameters to. shmmax, shmmni, shmall,
 sem
 

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RE: Oracle 9 on redhat 9...kernal settings

2003-07-04 Thread Jack van Zanen
Hi  Jared,



The link I send earlier this thread explains in detail how to set this


Happy Holidays

Jacob A. van Zanen




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Nice.  I haven't even looked at setting these parms in linux
in a couple years, didn't know this was available.

So, how do you set SHMMAX, etc on linux using sysctl?

The man pages weren't much help.

Jared

On Friday 04 July 2003 03:24, Markus Reger wrote:
 standard kernel : no rebuild.
 just use sysctl -p
 after writing yr preeferred settings into /etc/sysctl.conf

 for advanced linux guys: they can be set directly - but the previous 
 way is more convinient.

 in case you don't set them yr installation might hnag when creating 
 the database instance. in this case just install the database later. 
 means start dbassiost fter setting the kernel params. doesn't need a 
 complete re-install.

 kr

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/04/03 10:34 AM 

 Hi Jared,


 I ventured into my first red hat install not to long ago, but these 
 parameters do do need a kernel rebuild (afaik)


 Jack


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 7:21 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Unless you've run into errors requiring adjustment of these 
 parameters, don't bother with them.

 I've run 4 databases on a 2Gig RAM RH 7.1 box without ever touching 
 these.

 Modifying them requires rebuilding the kernel, which can be quite a 
 hassle.

 It also invalidates Oracle support on linux.

 Jared





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RE: Oracle 9 on redhat 9...kernal settings

2003-07-04 Thread Jack van Zanen


http://codah.net/install-oracle9iR2-on-redhat9.html



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Nice.  I haven't even looked at setting these parms in linux
in a couple years, didn't know this was available.

So, how do you set SHMMAX, etc on linux using sysctl?

The man pages weren't much help.

Jared

On Friday 04 July 2003 03:24, Markus Reger wrote:
 standard kernel : no rebuild.
 just use sysctl -p
 after writing yr preeferred settings into /etc/sysctl.conf

 for advanced linux guys: they can be set directly - but the previous 
 way is more convinient.

 in case you don't set them yr installation might hnag when creating 
 the database instance. in this case just install the database later. 
 means start dbassiost fter setting the kernel params. doesn't need a 
 complete re-install.

 kr

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/04/03 10:34 AM 

 Hi Jared,


 I ventured into my first red hat install not to long ago, but these 
 parameters do do need a kernel rebuild (afaik)


 Jack


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 7:21 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Unless you've run into errors requiring adjustment of these 
 parameters, don't bother with them.

 I've run 4 databases on a 2Gig RAM RH 7.1 box without ever touching 
 these.

 Modifying them requires rebuilding the kernel, which can be quite a 
 hassle.

 It also invalidates Oracle support on linux.

 Jared





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 What should I set the Kernal parameters to. shmmax, shmmni, 
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Re: [PMX:##] Re: cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE

2003-07-04 Thread Gilles PARC
Hi Rahul

in your case (8i ) put _system_trig_enabled = FALSE in your init.ora file,
bounce
the DB and drop the trigger.

Nota : In 9i you can use alter system set _system_trig_enabled=false;

HTH

you wrote:
 Help list... i have created the following in 8.1.5 instance
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DDL_TRIGGER BEFORE
 CREATE OR ALTER OR DROP ON DATABASE
 
 BEGIN
 null;
 END;
 /
 
 and now i cannot drop or disable this trigger 
 
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-04045: errors during recompilation/revalidation of SYS.DDL_TRIGGER
 
 
 i'm loggin into svrmgrl and connecting as internal to try drop or
 disable..
 is this a bug ??
 
 TIA
 
 Rahul..
 
 
 
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RE: Filesystem for Linux production database server?

2003-07-04 Thread Craig I. Hagan
 As far as the max-readahead option, I don't understand the specific
 relevance to fibre-attached storage.  I would imagine, though admittedly
 I no longer have large storage arrays to play with, that setting
 readahead to be higher could damage performance against arrays with
 intelligent caching algorithms.  Having the OS handle read-ahead

this has less to do with the caching than bw utilization. (someone ought to
test for async) and/or for filesystem io. Also, this is only for reads
(obviously).

nutshell is that the default fs *max* readahead is the current block (4k) +
31blocks for a total of ~128k. If you mess with a lot of io to fibre arrays
(through fs or raw) you'll find that 128k sized io's is right at the base of
the ramp-up for efficiently using your bus bandwidth for streaming io's (e.g.  
range or fast full scans). 

If you look at what happens, you start with current block + min-readahead
blocks (default is 7) for a total of 64k. if the readahead is successful, then
it doubles the number of pages read ahead for that file. repeat until you are
at max-readahead.

This PITA is that you really are trading streaming io throughput for a
percentage of random io with a caveat that a higher readahead change much if
you don't do that much sequential io happening (e.g. an OLTP database).

 rather than the array will likely fool the array into thinking that the
 i/o patterns are more sequential than they are.  This will cause them to
 pre-allocate cache regions and pre-fetch more tracks off disk, which
 could adversely impact performance.  

again, this comes back to *know* your io pattern. A large db_multiblock_read
setting can yield similar results if used incorrectly (the trick with fs 
readahead is that there is variance)

 Totally separate from that, Redhat strongly advises _against_ tuning
 that parameter.

if you are doing async io, yes. Likewise, if you know what is really going on
under the hood and understand your io patterns, then it is handy to have.

 I happen to be doing I/O testing right now anyway, so maybe I'll gen up
 some workloads on different filesystems and go nuts.

whatcha got for storage and machines? [reply to me offline]

-- craig



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Re: Oracle 9 on redhat 9...kernal settings

2003-07-04 Thread Craig I. Hagan
 Nice.  I haven't even looked at setting these parms in linux
 in a couple years, didn't know this was available.

some are 2.4.x things, others are 2.2.x changes.

 So, how do you set SHMMAX, etc on linux using sysctl?

if you aren't sure, run sysctl -a  /tmp/foo which basically dumps your
entire proc layout. for shmmax, the variable is kernel.shmmax,
so you'd add a line:

kernel.shmmax = ##

then run sysctl -p

-- craig

 
 The man pages weren't much help.
 
 Jared
 
 On Friday 04 July 2003 03:24, Markus Reger wrote:
  standard kernel : no rebuild.
  just use sysctl -p
  after writing yr preeferred settings into /etc/sysctl.conf
 
  for advanced linux guys: they can be set directly - but the previous way is
  more convinient.
 
  in case you don't set them yr installation might hnag when creating the
  database instance. in this case just install the database later. means
  start dbassiost fter setting the kernel params. doesn't need a complete
  re-install.
 
  kr
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/04/03 10:34 AM 
 
  Hi Jared,
 
 
  I ventured into my first red hat install not to long ago, but these
  parameters do do need a kernel rebuild (afaik)
 
 
  Jack
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 7:21 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Unless you've run into errors requiring adjustment of these parameters,
  don't bother with them.
 
  I've run 4 databases on a 2Gig RAM RH 7.1 box without ever touching these.
 
  Modifying them requires rebuilding the kernel, which can be quite a
  hassle.
 
  It also invalidates Oracle support on linux.
 
  Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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  cc:
  Subject:Oracle 9 on redhat 9...kernal settings
 
 
  I have 512 MB RAM in my Redhat Linux intel machine running Oracle 9.
 
  What should I set the Kernal parameters to. shmmax, shmmni, shmall,
  sem
  
 
  JD
 
 

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