Re: High availability and real time data warehosuing

2003-08-14 Thread Alex
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and transactions.


On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, [iso-8859-1] hrishy wrote:

> Hi
>
> I was wundering if any of your shops are using High
> avaliability solutions .
>
> 1)Can you tell me how these solutions like datamirror
> are superior to oracle9i RAC ?
>
> 2)Has anybody implemented real time data warehousing
> solution ?If so what were the enabling technologies
> used like
>
> 1)Java Messaging servcies
> 2)Mq series
> 3)Oracle streams
>
> 3)Has anybody implemented oracle 9i datagaurd what has
> been your experinces so far
>
> regards
> Hrishy
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Antwort: clustering

2003-07-28 Thread Alex . Apostolopoulos




Hi

oracle running on sun cluster or MC/service guard is usually a failover
solution. If the
node running oracle fails the standby node takes over by executing
customized start
scripts.

With RAC both nodes have instances of the same database up and running.  If
one
node fails the other is still up and running.

Of course  you can run RAC on top of a failover cluster.

HTH alex




   

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Hi Guys ,
I am new to this clustering concept. Just trying to understand few basics .
Need ur help .

what is differece between oracle running on sun /hp cluster with 2 nodes
and oracle with RAC running on 2 nodes ?

thanks,
-ak



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Re: Who Says Oracle does not listen

2003-07-21 Thread Alex Feinstein
RE: Who Says Oracle does not listenAgree.
One can improve EXCEPTION section to ignore only relevant errors.

Alex.

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That's not good enough.
I don't want to discard ANY exception.
When dropping table, I don't want to see error messages only if there is
nothing to drop.  While if let's say there is a problem with privileges, it
will go unnoticed.
Or, when adding a table, it's fine not be getting an error, if table already
exists.  But, if there is no room to create a table, or to add a partition
to the table, I want to see this error message.

So, I still prefer my way of doing it (see scripts in my original message)
comparing to Oracle's script, you refer to.

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>From ORACLE own script:
Rem
Rem Drop tables without raising errors if they do not exist
Rem
declare
   PROCEDURE drop_force(tab varchar2) IS
   BEGIN
  EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 'DROP TABLE ' || tab;
   EXCEPTION WHEN OTHERS THEN
  NULL;
   END;
begin
   drop_force('utl_recomp_invalid');
   drop_force('utl_recomp_sorted');
   drop_force('utl_recomp_compiled');
   drop_force('utl_recomp_backup_jobs');
   drop_force('utl_recomp_log');
end;
/
Alex.
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Sure, I would.
But I can't wait till Oracle "turns around".
My scripts are executed by our "field" engineers, who know next to nothing
about Oracle, and the only thing they can do is to check log files for error
messages (and even this is done automatically).
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Igor,
True enough, but wouldn't you like it as part and parcel of the
command?
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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To avoid those errors in my scripts I'm checking data dictionary for the
"existence" of the object (fortunately, dynamic sql helps here):
REM Dropping synonym
DECLARE lCounter integer;
begin
SELECT COUNT(*) INTO lSyn
FROM dba_synonyms WHERE synonym_name = 'PRCPV_REPORT_INFO' AND OWNER
= 'PUBLIC'; IF (lSyn = 1) THEN
EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 'drop PUBLIC SYNONYM  PRCPV_Report_Info'; END IF;
end; /
or:
REM Adding column
DECLARE lCounter integer;
begin
SELECT count(*) INTO lCounter
FROM DBA_TAB_COLUMNS
WHERE table_name = 'PRCP_MENU'
  AND column_name = 'MENU_NAME'
  AND owner = 'IPN_DBA';
IF (lCounter = 0) THEN
EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 'ALTER TABLE prcp_menu ADD menu_name
VARCHAR2(50) NULL';
END IF;
end;
/
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Re: perl DBI/DBD: can I pass in an array as parameter?

2003-07-02 Thread Alex
LOL
I offered a solution to pass an array. Getting results are for the upgrade.

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>
>Responses to 2 emails below:
>
>Alex wrote:
>>
>> not sure if this is what you want. one sql call
>>
>> select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
>> where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
>> and   tab1.X = ?
>> and   tab1.X = ?
>> and   tab1.X = ?
>> ;
>>
>> @my_array = (1,2,3);
>> sth->execute(@my_array);
>>
>
>Errm, no rows will be returned. Think about this one a little more.
>
>Steve Ollig wrote:
>> ok - that makes more sense.  sorry for misinterpreting the
>> question.  i've
>> never done it, but my first instinct would be to explore
>> using an in clause
>> in the query -
>>
>> select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
>>where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
>>and   tab1.X in (1, 2, 3)
>>
>> can you simply pass an array to the prepared statement that
>> way?  i'd try it
>> but don't have a sandbox with the DBI/DBD modules handy.
>>
>> perhaps one of the great Perl gurus of the list will offer
>> some insight...
>>
>
>I'm not a Perl guru, but I can think of 2 solutions:
>
>#build an array with the keys you want to look for:
>my @my_array = (1, 2, 3);
># then add that many ?s to the query
>
>#the 'in' solution:
>my $query = '
>  select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
>where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
>and   tab1.X in (' . join(',',('?') x @my_array) . ')';
>
># or the 'union' solution
>my $subquery = '
>  select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
>where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
>and   tab1.X = ?';
>
>my $query = join(' union ', ($subquery) x @my_array);
>
># pick only one of the above!
># and then
>
>my $sth = $db->prepare($query);
>$sth->execute(@my_array);
>
># then get the data back your favorite way: fetchall_arrayref, fetch_array,
etc
>
>But is it really worth the trouble? As long as you are using bind
variables, the overhead of multiple executes should not be very high.
>
>warning: these are typed from memory - I may have typos in the perl code.
But the concept should work.
>
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RE: perl DBI/DBD: can I pass in an array as parameter?

2003-07-01 Thread Alex
not sure if this is what you want. one sql call

select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
and   tab1.X = ?
and   tab1.X = ?
and   tab1.X = ?
;

@my_array = (1,2,3);
sth->execute(@my_array);




On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Guang Mei wrote:

> No. I want to reduce the numebr of sql calls.
>
> For example,
>
> @my_array = (1,2,3);
>
> I don't want to do
>
> select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
>where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
>and   tab1.X = 1;
>
> select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
>where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
>and   tab1.X = 2;
>
> select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
>where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
>and   tab1.X = 3;
>
> because that would require three calls to Oracle. I want to pass @my_array
> in so the sql statment only run once and return all the rows. Similar to
> "forall ..."  in PL/SQL situation.
>
> Guang
>
> -Original Message-
> STEVE OLLIG
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:56 PM
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>
> if i get you right - you're trying to treat the resultset from a query as an
> array in Perl.  That's the way it works.  Try something like this:
>
> $sth = $dbh->prepare (" select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
>where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
>and   tab1.X = ? ");
> my $resultset = $sth->execute("value for X");
> foreach (@$resultset) {
>   my($col1, $col2) = @$_;
>   # do more stuff
> }
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Hi:
>
> Does anyone know if I can pass an array in perl to an sql using DBI/DBD so
> that I get result set from Oracle?
>
> Specifically, I want do something like in perl:
>
>
> $sth = $dbh->prepare (" select  tab1.col1, tab2.col2 from tab1, tab2
>where tab1.ID1 = tab2.ID2
>and   tab1.X = ? ");
>
> my @my_array;
>
> # filling in my_array with data here
>
> $sth->execute(@my_array);
>
> my ($col1, $col2);
> while(($col1, $col2) = $sth->fetchrow_array())  {
>
>   # do processing of $col1 and $col2;
> }
>
> I am hoping to save repeated sql calls, do only one call and get all the
> rows back.
>
> Is it possible in any version DBI/DBD? I looked at
>
> http://perldoc.com/perl5.6.1/lib/DBI.html
>
> and I does not seem to be able to figure it out. If it is possible, any
> simple example code somewhere?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Guang
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Re: Need Script!!

2003-07-01 Thread Alex
you can use perl from activestate.com. run your awk script through a2p and
see if it works. there are many mail modules... Mime::Lite, Mail::Send to
name a couple.


On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Senthil Kumar D wrote:

> Hi Group,
>
> In one of our client place we are having Oracle 8.1.7 (std Ed) on NT.
>
> Here we need to send mails if the DB is down or if the listener is down or
> any errors in the alert log is found. In Unix we can use shell scripts and
> awk to do this. What about in NT/
>
> Guru's do you have any scripts to do the same.
>
> Please help me in this.
>
> TIA,
> Senthil.
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Re: OT: Is there a simple perl utility or program similar to Oracle's

2003-06-04 Thread Alex
If you're asking for a profiler of your perl code you can try dprof and
dbiprof.


On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, gmei wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I have a perl program which calls lots of subroutines, and plus it calls
> sqls through DBI/DBD. I am wondering if there are some utilities or programs
> similar to Oracle's dbms_profiler that I could use to identify parts that
> are heavy-hitters?
>
> TIA.
>
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Re: oracle full table scan

2003-04-03 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello Arvind,

Thursday, April 3, 2003, 5:58:38 AM, you wrote:

AK> Dear All,

AK>   is there any way to find which tables (table name) are suffering from
AK> full table scan ,so that  i can create indexes on them to enhance the
AK> performance.


AK> Thanks

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Use SQL_TRACE feature to find all statements which used FTS.

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Re: How to use small oracle database in my program

2003-04-01 Thread Alex
What are you going to be doing? You probably can use an embedded
database like BerkeleyDB or Sqlite



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> What do you thinke of how the OutLook express handle the data (email)?
> I think they are stored in database .
> Now ,I am going to program by visual c++ ,
> In order to process large data , I want to use oracle .
> But I don't want to tell my users: " to get a oracle database 9i and
> install it .The program needs them".
> If there is some way to get the core parts of oracle that you only
> install it you can use them?
> I just need some table and index to make my processing data fast.
> Thank you !
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RE: make utility in Solaris 8

2003-03-25 Thread Alex
what's the error that make generates? As long as make is on your PATH then
all you have to do is type make. Also, there are different versions of
make that use a different syntax in the Makefile. What make do you have?



On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Ross Collado wrote:

> Thanks Dennis.
> I only happen to suspect make is not properly installed because comparing it
> with the other Sun boxes we have, make is in /usr/ccs/bin whereas with this
> particular box, it's in /usr/local/bin.  How it got there, I don't know.
> Anyway, I'll try reinstalling the Sun package with make on it.  Another
> lister posted the package I was after.
> Rgds,
> Ross
>
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> Ross - I'm far from a Solaris guru, but since I don't see where you received
> a reply, here goes. The Oracle install may fail because it can't complete
> the make process. This happens, and requires a fix. But what makes (no pun
> intended) you think the root cause is that the Solaris make utility was
> improperly installed? Now if you are coming from a Micro$oft background,
> that might be a reasonable reaction. ;-)
>Are you receiving some error messages during make?
>
> Dennis Williams
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> Env. Solaris 8 Oracle 817
>
> My apologies for this OT posting.  I know we have quite a lot of Solaris
> gurus here.
> It appears the "make" utility was not installed properly as the Oracle
> install keeps failing.
> Can anyone tell what the SUN package name where make is in?
> Apologies again.
>
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Re: Value of OCP

2003-03-19 Thread Alex
Certifications are good for self marketing just like a degree from a
prestigious school. Does a certification mean
anything? It means the person took time to study and pass a test. It shows
a little dedication. A certification by itself means the individual
is competent enough for an entry level job.
Given enough time and rote
memorization many people could pass a certification without ever actually
touching the technology...the jailhouse lawyers of IT.

On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

>
> Foote Partners surveys the value of certifications. They support that over
> the past two years, the OCP pay premium increased by nearly 40%. In the same
> period, the value of Microsoft MCP declined by nearly 60%.
>
> A good article on the value of certifications.
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936853,00.asp
> I don't see where they included the Foote data online. It is in the eWeek
> magazine 3/17/03 edition, page 50.
>
> Dennis Williams
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Autoallocate (was Re: LMT monitoring)

2003-03-16 Thread Alex Feinstein
How about UNDO tablespace in 9.2?
It gets created with "autoallocate", and there is no way to change it or
specify any parameters for undo segments.
Each segment extended as needed, and when shrinked deallocated some extents
not necessary the last, than allocate new extent.

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You do get odd results.  The last time I tested on
a clean tablespace, an initial of 65MB gave me
a consistent result which I recall as:
Extent 0 at 8MB
Extents 1 - 56 at 1MB each
Extent 57at 8MB



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   case
 when initial_extent < 1m then
   case when extents < 16 then next = 64k,
when extents < 80 then next = 1m,
when extents < 200 then next = 8m,
else next = 64m
 when initial_extent >= 1m then
   case when extents < 64 then next = 1m,
when extents < 184 then next = 8m,
else next = 64m )


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Re: Oracle Development Suite for Linux?

2003-03-11 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
RS> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:28:50PM -0800, Charles Hart wrote:
>> I installed 9.2 on redhat 8.0 with great luck.  I installed on a 700 PC 
>> with 756 megs of memory.  I was using forms 6i running on NT client and 
>> could not tell when I was pointed at this instance verus one running on a 
>> HP machine.  The document I found that was helpful in the install was   
>> http://otn.oracle.com/tech/linux/pdf/installtips_final.pdf


RS> I believe the real problems where with 8i on a 2.4 kernel.  There is a
RS> miss-match is the glibc versions used for the kernel and oracle.  What
RS> a mess.  This seemed to work on 8.1.7-rh7.1 combination.  rh7.1 is the 
RS> last free version in the support matrix if that matters.

RS> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Oracle8-on-RH7X-HOWTO-3.html

RS> On an error with a 9.0 install:

RS> Error when invoking /9.0/plsql/lib/ins_plsql.mk
RS> Doc ID: 197301.995

OK Lads, there are good responses. Thank you.

Just clarify something...
I have installed Oracle Database Server 9.2.0.1 on RH 7.3
without any major problems as well. Now I look at Application Server
and Development Tools (such as Forms and Reports). I see 2 options
for me: Linux (preferable) or Windows.

It will be "test" installation - performance is not an issue. The main call for
me is time I spent to get it work.

Is Linux installation is more time consumed than Windows now
(before it took more time and involved more complex procedure to get it
working under Linux)?

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Oracle Development Suite for Linux?

2003-03-10 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello List,

Has somebody had any luck or problems to install Oracle development
suite v9.0.2 under RH Linux? How good it is there now?

I found that previous versions run much better under Windows.

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Re: remote / as sysdba

2003-03-09 Thread Alex Feinstein
Jared,
Look at Note 60634.1 on MetaLink.
OSAUTH_PREFIX_DOMAIN = TRUE is default for 8.1 and 9.
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Re: perl DBI question: fetchrow_array

2003-03-06 Thread Alex
try using fetchrow_arrayref and see if its faster or less resource
intensive.



On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, gmei wrote:

> I have some perl code which selects table data and write it into a file. I
> have something like:
>
> ---
> $dbh->{RowCacheSize} = 1;
> open(DATA, ">$tn") || die "Can't open file\n";
> $dat=$dbh->prepare("select id||chr(9)||FUNCTIONID||chr(9)||GENEID from
> FUNCTION2GENE");
> $dat->execute();
> while(($row) = $dat->fetchrow_array) {
> print DATA "$row\n";
> }
> close(DATA);
> -
>
> I am trying to see if there is any way to speed up the process.
>
> So here is my question:
>
> Is "fetchrow_array" the fatest way to get the data?
>
> TIA.
>
> Guang
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Re: multiple oracle homes

2003-03-02 Thread Alex Feinstein
Kirti,

The next enhancement would be to execute script (from .profile) which will
generate all aliases based on oratab.
I use something like
alias PRMT='. /usr/local/bin/oracle_setup.ksh PRMT'
and /usr/local/bin/oracle_setup.ksh will source oraenv and do some
additional customization.

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Better yet, have one single generic .profile with aliases defined for each
instance running on the server.

Want to change env for another instance? Just type it's name. It is that
simple.

We do this on all our servers, some with 20+ instances running under 7.3.4,
8.0.x, 8.1.x and 9.2.x. We use only one id for all versions of Oracle s/w.

The .profile file sources the alias' file as .local.aliases. This file has
entries as below:

#Add Database name here using the following format
alias PRMT='export ORACLE_SID=PRMT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias PRMX='export ORACLE_SID=PRMX; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias VP1D='export ORACLE_SID=VP1D; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv; cd
/u01/home/oracle/admin/VP1D;'
alias SDSD='export ORACLE_SID=SDSD; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SDST='export ORACLE_SID=SDST; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SVRP='export ORACLE_SID=SVRP; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias SVRT='export ORACLE_SID=SVRT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias IDSU='export ORACLE_SID=IDSU; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'
alias IWVT='export ORACLE_SID=IWVT; export ORAENV_ASK="NO";. oraenv;'

PRMT --> IWVT are the instances running on the server.



And finally, do change the UNIX prompt to include current ORACLE_SID, among
other things !!


HTH,

- Kirti

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Re[2]: How to start with Oracle Financial?

2003-02-28 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello Mike,

Friday, February 28, 2003, 11:48:49 AM, you wrote:

HMNI> To be honest if you can't download manuals, books or software you don't
HMNI> leave yourself many options.
HMNI> It's not clear whether you've been unable to download manuals or won't. The
HMNI> manuals are all available at
HMNI> http://download-uk.oracle.com/docs/cd/A99488_01/html/erpdoc.html.
HMNI> You can't download Oracle Financials but you can order Oracle Financials
HMNI> from the Oracle Store? It's pretty cheap (look under "CD Packs").
 
Thanks a lot for link above. Unfortunately I was asked about user name
and password there :(

Do you know it?

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Re[2]: How to start with Oracle Financial?

2003-02-28 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello Folks,

Many thanks for your help.

I found this in Oracle Store:

* We do not offer trial licenses for our E-Business Suite Applications
>From Mike's letter it is avoidable ;)

But this...
OracleR Applications 11i Release 8 CD Pack for Linux Intel  
NOTE: This CD Pack is only for existing 11i customers.
CD Pack contains the Doc Library CD and Maintenance Pack CDs

Does it mean I would be asked about some key during ordering?

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Re: Fwd: RE: newbie dba question - THANKS AGAIN!

2003-02-28 Thread Alex Dashko
 Darrell Landrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Reply to///Thanks very much to everyne!I should've told you, first mistake sorry, that this is ORACLE 8.0.6 - can I run STATSPACK? Or should I stick with bstat/estat? I will be running stats during times when performance is normal nomal. But what steps in identifying the slowdowns in performace should be taken WHILE the issue is hot and users are on the horn with it? Obviously, they want FAST fix, magic stick. Their thinking is that there is a switch you turn on and that's it you're going fast again. Is there something that can be done in a short time window while the issue is present?Thanks again!"Godlewski, Melissa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Alex, My 2 cents, First you need to get a baseline of performance during normal business hours, statspak is a great tool to use. When the system start to experience performance problems, then start drilling down to identify t!
he issues. Use v$ tables as well as statspak more frequently. Additionally, when you find the sessions causing problems pull the sql and work with the developer to tune it, or identify hot objects you need to manage. Run the 10046 trace on the sessions and collect information on the waits etc. A good place to look is the www.orafaq.com for past list comments/information. A helpful book is Oracle 101 performance tuning by Gaja, Kirti, and John. You can also go to the hotsos site and run your reports through the YAPP to help identify bottlenecks. LOLM.Godlewski-///Alex,Melissa has some good advice here. Your issue is too vague and broad for any reasonable assistance. It seems you're kind of in a trial by fire situation. There are so many things you need to look at and know for trouble shooting performance that, without more information, the most likely offering is a book(s). Unless someone has specifically backported statspack, it is only available from 8!
.1.6 forward, so you're stuck with bstat/estat.I haven't read Oracle 101 performance tuning, but I saw Gaja speak at the hotsos symposium and based on that would second Melissa's recommendation for this book. Also, "Expert One-on-One" by Tom Kyte and "Practical Oracle 8i" by Jonathan Lewis (I know it says 8i and you're on 8.0, but there are a lot of concepts and applications the same or similar.) There are probably many other good books which I haven't read.Some sites you should get into very soon (in any order)...http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk http://asktom.oracle.com http://www.hotsos.com In the meantime, try and get some traces of troublesome sessions and post those to the list, as well as any stat reports, and we'll offer what help we can. Also, please include any platform information you can get (operating system, etc.). Are your tables getting analyzed?Folks on the list weren't ignoring you, there just wasn't enough information to get !
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How to start with Oracle Financial?

2003-02-28 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello List,

Have the one question from subj please.

I'd like to get some initial experience with Oracle Financial. What is
the best way to do so? I couldn't download this package or
manuals/books from OTN for practise... But I need to have some
knowledge of it to get new job.

Thank you for your help.

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Fwd: RE: newbie dba question - another try

2003-02-27 Thread Alex Dashko
 
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Thanks very much to everyne!
I should've told you, first mistake sorry, that this is ORACLE 8.0.6 - can I run STATSPACK? Or should I stick with bstat/estat? I will be running stats during times when performance is normal nomal. But what steps in identifying the slowdowns in performace should be taken WHILE the issue is hot and users are on the horn with it? Obviously, they want FAST fix, magic stick. Their thinking is that there is a switch you turn on and that's it you're going fast again. Is there something that can be done in a short time window while the issue is present?
Thanks again!
 "Godlewski, Melissa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Alex,
 
 
My 2 cents,
 
First you need to get a baseline of performance during normal business hours, statspak is a great tool to use.   When the system start to experience performance problems, then start drilling down to identify the issues.  Use v$ tables as well as statspak more frequently.  Additionally, when you find the sessions causing problems pull the sql and work with the developer to tune it, or identify hot objects you need to manage.  Run the 10046 trace on the sessions and collect information on the waits etc. 
 
A good place to look is the www.orafaq.com for past list comments/information.
 
A helpful book is Oracle 101 performance tuning by Gaja, Kirti, and John.   You can also go to the hotsos site and run your reports through the YAPP to help identify bottlenecks.
 
LOL
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Hello Gurus,
I heard that if I can get great ORACLE advice, this is the place, so here is my question. I've been asked to take over an existing db in production. What would be the right way to get a "quick" understanding on what's happening in it in terms ways for proactive tuning? I am just getting started while trying to be ahead of the curve. Is this something I should be looking into, or is it more like if it ain't broke, don't fix it? :). It'd be nice to get started and have a good view on what's going on. Also, can someone can share their experience on what can be done when customers report intermittent, but rather dramatic slowdowns in the system. Please note, the slowdowns are reported to be occurring in the entire system. What would be a good place to look when this happens and get some quick feedback?
Thank you very much!
Best regards,
Alex


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RE: newbie dba question

2003-02-27 Thread Alex Dashko
Thanks very much to everyne!
I should've told you, first mistake sorry, that this is ORACLE 8.0.6 - can I run STATSPACK? Or should I stick with bstat/estat? I will be running stats during times when performance is normal nomal. But what steps in identifying the slowdowns in performace should be taken WHILE the issue is hot and users are on the horn with it? Obviously, they want FAST fix, magic stick. Their thinking is that there is a switch you turn on and that's it you're going fast again. Is there something that can be done in a short time window while the issue is present?
Thanks again!
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Alex,
 
 
My 2 cents,
 
First you need to get a baseline of performance during normal business hours, statspak is a great tool to use.   When the system start to experience performance problems, then start drilling down to identify the issues.  Use v$ tables as well as statspak more frequently.  Additionally, when you find the sessions causing problems pull the sql and work with the developer to tune it, or identify hot objects you need to manage.  Run the 10046 trace on the sessions and collect information on the waits etc. 
 
A good place to look is the www.orafaq.com for past list comments/information.
 
A helpful book is Oracle 101 performance tuning by Gaja, Kirti, and John.   You can also go to the hotsos site and run your reports through the YAPP to help identify bottlenecks.
 
LOL
M.Godlewski

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Hello Gurus,
I heard that if I can get great ORACLE advice, this is the place, so here is my question. I've been asked to take over an existing db in production. What would be the right way to get a "quick" understanding on what's happening in it in terms ways for proactive tuning? I am just getting started while trying to be ahead of the curve. Is this something I should be looking into, or is it more like if it ain't broke, don't fix it? :). It'd be nice to get started and have a good view on what's going on. Also, can someone can share their experience on what can be done when customers report intermittent, but rather dramatic slowdowns in the system. Please note, the slowdowns are reported to be occurring in the entire system. What would be a good place to look when this happens and get some quick feedback?
Thank you very much!
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Hello Gurus,
I heard that if I can get great ORACLE advice, this is the place, so here is my question. I've been asked to take over an existing db in production. What would be the right way to get a "quick" understanding on what's happening in it in terms ways for proactive tuning? I am just getting started while trying to be ahead of the curve. Is this something I should be looking into, or is it more like if it ain't broke, don't fix it? :). It'd be nice to get started and have a good view on what's going on. Also, can someone can share their experience on what can be done when customers report intermittent, but rather dramatic slowdowns in the system. Please note, the slowdowns are reported to be occurring in the entire system. What would be a good place to look when this happens and get some quick feedback?
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Re: Perl Modules

2003-02-26 Thread Alex
search.cpan.org
look for database or oracle or dbi



On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, sstefick wrote:

> I've done some basic Perl programming for UNIX Sys admin kinda tasks, but now
> I'm looking to get more into the DB functionality of it.  I was wondering if
> anyone could give me a list of Perl Modules I should have for effective DB
> programming in Perl.
>
> Jared, I know this is definitely your area
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> Thanks,
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RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-21 Thread Alex

I think thats the goal of .NET CLI. Write in anything ... mix and match.

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Nelson, Allan wrote:

> Now this thread has gone on for a while so its time for my contribution
> :-).  PL/SQL is such a necessary although pedestrian language that its
> not interesting.  Of the scripting languages TCL, PERL, and Python all
> include facilities for embedding them into other code or adding other
> code to them.  What we should do is mount an Open Source project to
> embed Perl and TCL into Python so that we could create one large
> abomination in which any syntax or facility that pleases us could be
> used.  Concealing your intellectual property would be simple.  Write
> whatever suites you at the time, no one, not even you, will be able to
> figure out what you wrote after you've been away for it a week.
>
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> > would make?
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RE: best way to provide GUI outside of telnet

2003-02-18 Thread Alex
HTML is the easiest solution

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> Here is an interesting dilemna.  Support Oracle (On Unix and/or Windows) and
> SQL Server (on Windows) and idea is to come up with a common GUI interface
> for looking at logs, schedule jobs even if it means using crontab
> -graphics for trend analysis
> -GUI console
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> Any ideas on best architec. language for this?
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Re: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-18 Thread Alex
What's your goal?
If you are writing scripts then use perl or python. IMO, python is more
maintainable when your codebase gets bigger. If you're writing a system or
application python is still good.

If your goal is to get on the hype then go java, xml, .net, and throw in a
webservice API. Also, you don't need to know how these work, but you do
need to know how to use the wizards that can generate code for these.

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Les Ayudo wrote:

> On top of learning Oracle, which programming languages would also benefit some1 
>learning Oracle?  Perl? Java?  How would these languages be used?
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RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-18 Thread Alex

If you are using C/C++ look into www.swig.org to make your life easier

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RE: Unix research source ???

2003-02-13 Thread Alex
No. They are both free. BSD is basically pure ATT unix; Linux is a kernel
with GNU's tools thrown on.

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Re: Off Topic: Where is the software industry headed?

2003-02-13 Thread Alex
India then China

On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, KENNETH JANUSZ wrote:

> Does anyone know of an article(s) that discuss the future direction of the software 
>industry (available on the web)?
>
> Thanks much,
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Re: Question about RMAN and recovery scenario.

2003-02-10 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello Folks,

Thank you everybody for help.

Sorry to confuse you I forgot to show what version I am using for testing...
It is 9iR2.

I just realized why I got unexpected behavior of recovery scenario
during my testing. I removed datafiles with started instance. And when
my script tried to login to rman error happened. Not I tried same
scenario with stopped instance and it worked in proper way.

Hm, I tried to login as sysdba to rman (user in target DB should be
sysdba). Did I need to access SYSTEM tablespace when I logged in as
SYSDBA? It means if instance started and SYSTEM tablespace gone I
couldn't login as SYSDBA even to stop instance with SHUTDOWN ABORT???

Am I right?


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AA> Hello Folks,

AA> I am just working with recovery scenarios and have question about
AA> rman.
AA> Consider following situation:
AA> 1. Use recovery manager without catalog only control file.
AA> 2. Have level 0 database backup + level 1 backup.

AA> If we lost all datafiles except datafiles from SYSTEM it is not a
AA> problem to recover database. Also if RMAN uses catalog it works good.

AA> But in scenario if we lost all datafiles (including all files from
AA> SYSTEN tablespace) how to recover database?

AA> Thank you for your help.
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Question about RMAN and recovery scenario.

2003-02-10 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello Folks,

I am just working with recovery scenarios and have question about
rman.
Consider following situation:
1. Use recovery manager without catalog only control file.
2. Have level 0 database backup + level 1 backup.

If we lost all datafiles except datafiles from SYSTEM it is not a
problem to recover database. Also if RMAN uses catalog it works good.

But in scenario if we lost all datafiles (including all files from
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Re[2]: RMAN - delete obsolete?

2003-02-06 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello Lads,

Thanks a lot for useful answers.
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Antwort: Re: Dump table to file, edit and reimport

2003-02-06 Thread Alex . Apostolopoulos




hi aidan,

the following script will create .ctl and .dat files for each table of
OWNER.
These files can then be used with sqlldr.

HTH alex


#!/bin/ksh
###
#
# Desc: create CTL and DAT files for sqlldr usage
#
###
#set -x
USR=user/password


echo "set feedback off
set pagesize 0
select table_name from all_tables where owner like 'OWNER';" | sqlplus -s
$USR | while read TABL
do
STR1="nothing"
STR="nothing"
COLUM="nothing"
TYPE="nothing"

echo "desc $TABL" | sqlplus -s $USR | awk '{print $1 " " $2}' |
tail +3 | grep "[A-Z]" | while read COLUM TYPE
do

if [ "$STR" = "nothing" ]
then
STR=$COLUM
STR1=$COLUM
else
if [ "$TYPE" = "DATE" ]
then
STR="$STR || '|' ||
to_char($COLUM,'DD-MON-YY:HH24:MM:SS')"
STR1="$STR1,$COLUM DATE
'DD-MON-YY:HH24:MM:SS'"
else
STR="$STR || '|' || $COLUM"
STR1="$STR1,$COLUM"
fi
echo $STR > STR
echo $STR1 > STR1
fi
done

echo "set feedback off
set pagesize 0
set linesize 3000
select `cat STR`|| '|' from $TABL;" | sqlplus -s $USR >> $TABL.dat
echo "LOAD DATA" > $TABL.ctl
echo "INFILE '$TABL'"  >> $TABL.ctl
echo "INTO TABLE $TABL"  >> $TABL.ctl
echo "FIELDS TERMINATED BY '|'"  >> $TABL.ctl
echo "(`cat STR1`)" >> $TABL.ctl
done
# END OF SCRIPT





   
   
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hi!

unload and load work like that

SQL> exp myuser/@mydb file=C:\temp\mydump.dmp tables=(mytable)

SQL> imp myuser/@mydb file=C:\temp\mydump.dmp tables=(mytable)

but i don't think you will have a good time editing the file.
if you want a | delimited file, you should use spool and gerenate
the file you need.

daniel



Aidan Whitehall wrote:
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> In Sybase's ASA there was an "unload" command which wrote to a text file
> the SQL to recreate a table, along with all it's data which running the
> SQL then imported. This allowed you to very easily dump a table, edit
> it's structure and suck the data back in.
>
> The closest thing I've found in Oracle is right-clicking on a table |
> Data Management | Export. However, we're not running the Oracle
> Management Server (just because we don't know how to set that up yet),
> so this functionality isn't available.
>
> Barring installing OMS, is there a quick and dirty way to do this?
>
> And, if the answer is "no", is OMS easy to

Antwort: SAN, Heterogenous environments, Backups

2003-02-06 Thread Alex . Apostolopoulos




Hemant,

have you considerd HP Openview Omniback or related products form Veritas ??

cheers alex


   
  
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We are considering implementing a SAN,
using Sun StorEdge SS9970 [OEM from Hitachi], where database
servers will be a mix of Sun Solaris and HP HPUX
running Oracle 8i, 9i, 9iRAC [in phase-2].

As the database files will be on File Systems [Sun or HP],
the solutions provider says that backups of the
HP file systems cannot be done by the backup server
running Solaris.
The proposal is to use "shadow copies". The Sun Engineer
says that the "shadow copy" must be mounted as a file
system on the backup server and as the backup server is
a Sun server it wouldn't be able to mount the HP file system.

How are Heterogenous implementations on a SAN done ?  How are backups done
?

Hemant K Chitale
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Antwort: OT: HPUX SCSI Performance

2003-02-05 Thread Alex . Apostolopoulos




Hi david,
of course there is something you can do  First tell your sysadmin to
stop being so negative !!!

Transfererate is data/time, where time is the sum of three steps
- seek: time to position the heat to the right location
- latency: then r/w head has to wait for the correct sector
- transfer: actual transfer of data

First you have to do tests to find out where you loose the biggest
percetage of time.
If transfer is your biggest problem the solution is easy : place the files
on the out side
sectors of the discs ( outer sectors are up to 4 times faster that inner
sectors ).
pls refer to man pages of mkfs/lvm to see how you can set up partitions or
luns
on hp-ux.
If seek is your problem than a reorganizing of the data into a more
sequential way
or setting up bufferpages (kernel parameter in hp-ux) might give you an
advantage
if the inodes are used frequently and therfore are stored in the
bufferpages so no
physical read takes place.  But of  course setting up bufferpages takes
away memory
so there is a trade off when working with oracle. more or less the same is
true for latency.

hmmm just said "same" ... google for same and you will find some
interesting white papers
(S.A.M.E = stripe and mirror everything)

HTH alex





   
  
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Hi Guys
I'm hoping there is sysadmin in the list that can help me.

We just received a brand new Itanium Server to play with
It has 2  U320 disk not striped or mirrored or anything

Doing test and monitoring them through glance, is giving me a transfer rate
of about 15Megs a sec
These should be up around 60 - 80 megs right?

My sysadmin says there is nothing he can do.
Can someone tell if there is some sort setting he hasn't set or a config
somewhere?

Thanks.
David Hill


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RMAN - delete obsolete?

2003-02-05 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello List,

I think my question is very simple...

How to execute RMAN command DELETE OBSOLETE from script without confirmation question 
to remove obsolete backups
automatically?

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Re: Recovery Solutions - URGENT

2003-02-05 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello Jai,

Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 4:13:51 AM, you wrote:

Jic> Dear friends,

Jic> Could someone enlighten me on the steps to be carried out using RMAN 
Jic> and using OS commands for Recovery if :

Jic> 1. A current redo log file is corrupted.
Jic> 2. The System TS is corrupted.

Jic> Thanks for your help in advance.

Jic> Best Regards
Jic> Jai

Do you have any previous backups?

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Antwort: How to create a new oracle database from SVRMGRL??

2003-02-04 Thread Alex . Apostolopoulos
   
  
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>1)how can I create a new database frm SVRMGRL ?

pathes have to exist with the right owner and permissions
as well as init.ora.
If you use dbassist you can create all the scripts.

#!/bin/ksh

ORACLE_SID=yourdb
export ORACLE_SID

/oracle/8.1.6/bin/svrmgrl << EOF
spool /oracle/8.1.6/admin/yourdb/create/crdb1.log
connect internal
startup nomount pfile = "/oracle/8.1.6/admin/yourdb/pfile/inityourdb.ora"
CREATE DATABASE "yourdb"
   maxdatafiles 128
   maxinstances 8
   maxlogfiles 32
   character set US7ASCII
   national character set US7ASCII
DATAFILE '/oracle/8.1.6/oradata/yourdb/system01.dbf' SIZE 54M AUTOEXTEND ON
NEXT 640K
logfile '/oracle/8.1.6/oradata/yourdb/redo01.log' SIZE 1000K,
'/oracle/8.1.6/oradata/yourdb/redo02.log' SIZE 1000K,
'/oracle/8.1.6/oradata/yourdb/redo03.log' SIZE 1000K;
disconnect
spool off
exit
EOF

>2)can I have more than one database running in
>oracle8i?

jep


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Antwort: RE: OT: Cron not working

2003-02-04 Thread Alex . Apostolopoulos




Vladimir:

"fuser /var/log/cron" and "lsof" might be a starting point to find out what
went wrong.

It will give you a list of programs that currently have this inode open.
If one of these programs has opened the logfile in blocking mode
then other programs will simply sit there and wait or time out depending
on the implementation ( ioctl,termio ) when they try to open the logfile.
Under some circumstances it is possible that the kernel (who keeps the
list of open inodes and their condition) does not get notified when the
program
owning this inode died, rarly happens as kernels are quite robust. Therefor
I am sure a reboot would have solved the problem as well allthought not
recomended.

So you would have to inspect the relevant kernel tables (adb on hp-ux,
maybe
the /proc directory under red hat offers help here).
The reason why it worked when you deleted and touched the file was because
it then has received a new inode as "ls -i" would show and therefore the
related
lock is pointing to another destination. After the fopen only the inode is
relevant
not the name any more.

of course  if cron is not working the first thing you should check is if
the daemon
is running :-)))

HTH

cheers alex



   
   
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Vladimir,
I have seen 2 replies to questions today that were less than tactful, yours
and one regarding awk & ksh
If you post a message asking for help and someone tries to help then it is
bad manners to be critical of that help.

I am replying to this because I also replied to your post with some basic
info on the use of cron, the same as Robert did.
If we both read your mail and thought you had minimal knowledge of cron
then
perhaps your post was at fault , not those who offer help.

Glad to hear you have sorted the problem anyway

John


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Oh, really? I'm not beginner...

Anyway, thanks... Solution was weird...

When I deleted /var/log/cron file, then touched /var/log/cron and then
started cron - everything went
back to normal.

Why the f&(#$^%* it wasn't working, I don't understabd... /var/log/cron was
small (~30k), "df -k /var/log" gave me about 1 Gig of free space... Yet,
cron was not working...


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> $ps xea | grep crond
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> Will show you if the cron process is running or not
>
> -rje
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>
> VB> Hello to everyone...
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> VB> Red Hat 6.2
>
> VB> How do I find out what is wrong with cron? From January 15th until
today
> VB> cron is not working... My (oracle's) crontab file HAS not changed...
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Re: Restricting the range of values in a field

2003-01-31 Thread Alex Andriyashchenko
Hello Aidan,

Thursday, January 30, 2003, 4:00:40 PM, you wrote:

AW> Is there any way you can specify that the only permissible values (is it
AW> called a domain?) that can be entered in varchar2 field in an Oracle
AW> table to, for example, A, B and C?

AW> We can restrict what values users can enter at the application level,
AW> but it would be nice to be able to also restrict what can be entered at
AW> the database level, in case other means of entering data are ever used
AW> or if the application layer fails, for whatever reason, to trap an
AW> unwanted value.


AW> Thanks

Use CHECK constraint.

Like
ALTER TABLE a1
ADD CONSTRAINT CHECK column1 IN ('A','B','C')


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RE: Perl - Was Unix time conversion function

2003-01-28 Thread Alex

You can always outsource your perl development to me.  :)


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RE: Perl - Was unix time conversion function

2003-01-28 Thread Alex
; convert a standard unix seconds-since-Jan-1970 epoch
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RE: Orawomen (staffing)

2003-01-09 Thread Alex


On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:

> People gravitate toward comfort first and foremost.  Why hire someone who
> knows more than you and keeps telling you management is incompetent?  Think
> about it.  You will have to work with these new hires on a daily basis, life
> is hard enough as it is... Problems never happen...  In any case hiring
> people is such a hassle...

That's right. As hire As, Bs hire Cs.

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RE: Orawomen

2003-01-08 Thread Alex

At firms where intelligence is all that matters you can look like a pig
and you'll still be respected. Most people are not that smart and work for
companies where you are judged on looks and personality.

On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Rachel Carmichael wrote:

> > very technical, very detailed, and very dedicated.  The fact that
> > they were both attractive didn't hurt either.  One majored in math
>
> I'm about to start a flame war here, I just know it.
>
> WHY does it matter to mention the attractiveness of the female DBAs?
> When I talk about someone I work with, I don't comment on how
> attractive he or she is. I talk about whether or not the person can do
> the work and I can learn from him or her.
>
> It's the subtle things that promote the attitude.

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Re: Perl DBI/SQL question - For those who use it...

2003-01-03 Thread Alex
What do you have so far.
You can read in a script like so...
#perl dbicode.pl  < script.sql
while () {
chomp;
$sql .= $_;
}
print $sql;


On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Koivu, Lisa wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> This may be a stupid question.  If so please humor me with a stupid answer.
> However:
>
> I FINALLY have the fun fun fun chance to change one of my data loads to use
> the DBI instead of the procedures I hacked together.  In true ksh style I
> had written my loads to fire a sql script (calling a stored proc) that was
> stored separately.  It seems to me the DBI wants the text of the sql script
> embedded piece by piece in the code.  I have looked around for examples
> because even though the DBI seems straightforward, it doesn't take much to
> confuse me.  I don't see examples of firing a sql script from the DBI (like
> this sqlplus /@dbname < @script.sql > logfile.log ... Gosh do I miss unix,
> everything was SO EASY)
>
> So my questions to you, my learned friends, are:
>
> 1. is it not perl-style to store the sql in a separate file?  I understand I
> may be missing the opportunity for more specific error handling here but
> honestly at this point it does not matter.  The thing fails, I restart the
> whole script.
>
> 2. Does anyone have an example of firing the DBI and calling a sql script
> like I could so easily do in ksh?
>
> Any and all comments are welcome.  Thank you
>
> I wish everyone a rested and relaxing weekend.
>
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Re: Java to Database Basics

2002-12-23 Thread Alex
First do you know how to program? Really program; not talk about how to
program but actually type in code and get what you want.
If you do then learning 85% of java or any language won't take too long.
I sugest you download some JDBC examples and try them out. Change stuff
then try again.

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, VIVEK_SHARMA wrote:

>
> More & More people are Accessing the Oracle Database Thru Java Calls , programs etc.
>
> What basics , related Database performance issues etc. are part of this Java game 
>with respect
> to the Database ?
>
> How can a structured learning be done on this ?
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> Total Novice on Java here though familiar with Oracle Databases (DBA)
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Re: Regular Expressions in SQL

2002-12-18 Thread Alex
owa_pattern package

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>
> If the answer is creating a function, does anyone have one they wouldn't mind
> sharing?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
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Re: OEM email problems (unix)

2002-12-16 Thread Alex
More info needed.
But see if you can ping the mail server.
Make sure you are actually using the mail server you think you are and not
solaris's sendmail.
Try putting MS exchange host and IP in /etc/hosts

On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Don wrote:

> we are stumped.
>
> We have installed OEM 9.2, the console, the OMS, and 9.2 repository on a
> solaris 5.9 box.
>
> So far, we are not able to send any email from the console, no matter what
> we try.  The messages  generally indicated that the email SMPT host (a MS
> exchange server) can not be found.
>
> We found some info on Metalink that led us through some command line tests,
> which were all successful.
>
> The Unix admin, the network folks, the Exchange people, and even a
> consultant that wondered by, have all given up.
>
> any ideas?
>
> Don
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Re: SLOW SITE

2002-12-09 Thread Alex

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Seema Singh wrote:

> Hi
> One of my client website is slow and they are running AOL server for
> application.Can any one suggest what are the things need to look for better
> performance?

Everything. Network, database, code, OS, machine.

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RE: Help with Java

2002-12-03 Thread Alex
My condolences to you.

On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

> John - I forwarded your message to one of our newly-trained Java
> programmers. He replied with:
>The code is incomplete, how are they handling the connection.
>Obviously the while loops are messing each other up.
>There are multiple ways of handling this.
>If I see the complete code I can be more specific.
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 40%OCP
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:25 PM
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>
>
> All,
>
> I am beginning the journey into JAVA and have hit an odd behavior
> (well, probably not, but I can't see any reason for it).  I am
> building a list of tablespaces and the datafiles that belong to them.
> The open to the database is working fine.  When I use:
>
>  ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
> "SELECT tablespace_name " +
> "FROM   dba_tablespaces " +
> "WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'"
>   );
>
>   while (myTablespaces.next()) {
> // retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
> // getString() method
> ct = ct + 1;
> String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
> System.out.println("Tablespace " + ct + " is: " + tablespace);
>   }
>   myTablespace.close();
>
> I am generating a list of tablespaces and the output is as expected.
> When I add a second result set, the first datafile of the first tablespace
> returns and then the program completes:
>
>  ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
> "SELECT tablespace_name " +
> "FROM   dba_tablespaces " +
> "WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'"
>   );
>   while (myTablespaces.next()) {
> // retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
> // getString() method
> ct = ct + 1;
> String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
> System.out.println("Tablespace " + ct + " is: " + tablespace);
>
> ResultSet myDataFiles = myStatement.executeQuery(
>   "SELECT file_name " +
>   "FROM   dba_data_files " +
>   "WHERE  tablespace_name = '" + tablespace + "'"
> );
>
> while (myDataFiles.next()) {
>   String filename = myDataFiles.getString(1);
>   System.out.println("  " + filename);
> }
> myDataFiles.close();
>   }
>   myTablespaces.close();
>
>
> Anybody with some Java experience have any insite?
>
> As always, TIA,
>
> John P Weatherman
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Re: Help with Java

2002-12-03 Thread Alex
comment out
myDataFiles.close();

and see what happens.

On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, John Weatherman wrote:

> All,
>
> I am beginning the journey into JAVA and have hit an odd behavior
> (well, probably not, but I can't see any reason for it).  I am
> building a list of tablespaces and the datafiles that belong to them.
> The open to the database is working fine.  When I use:
>
>  ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
> "SELECT tablespace_name " +
> "FROM   dba_tablespaces " +
> "WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'"
>   );
>
>   while (myTablespaces.next()) {
> // retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
> // getString() method
> ct = ct + 1;
> String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
> System.out.println("Tablespace " + ct + " is: " + tablespace);
>   }
>   myTablespace.close();
>
> I am generating a list of tablespaces and the output is as expected.
> When I add a second result set, the first datafile of the first tablespace
> returns and then the program completes:
>
>  ResultSet myTablespaces = myStatement.executeQuery(
> "SELECT tablespace_name " +
> "FROM   dba_tablespaces " +
> "WHERE  contents = 'PERMANENT'"
>   );
>   while (myTablespaces.next()) {
> // retrieve the user from the row in the ResultSet using the
> // getString() method
> ct = ct + 1;
> String tablespace = myTablespaces.getString(1);
> System.out.println("Tablespace " + ct + " is: " + tablespace);
>
> ResultSet myDataFiles = myStatement.executeQuery(
>   "SELECT file_name " +
>   "FROM   dba_data_files " +
>   "WHERE  tablespace_name = '" + tablespace + "'"
> );
>
> while (myDataFiles.next()) {
>   String filename = myDataFiles.getString(1);
>   System.out.println("  " + filename);
> }
> myDataFiles.close();
>   }
>   myTablespaces.close();
>
>
> Anybody with some Java experience have any insite?
>
> As always, TIA,
>
> John P Weatherman
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Re: OT: Password Generator...

2002-11-21 Thread Alex
what language?
random() or rand() is usually a part of every language.

On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Loughmiller, Greg wrote:

> Hey folks-
> I have a question that was presented to me by a web development team..
>
> Does anyone know of products,procedures,etc that would generate a random
> password for a user? For example-similar to that at MetaLink when you forget
> your password-and they send you a new one that is just a string of
> characters/numeric digits...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Loughmiller
> Sr Manager - Enterprise Data Architecture
> gloughmiller (IPS)
> 678.893.3217 (office)
>
>
>

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RE: New development in Cobol or PL/SQL - please help

2002-11-20 Thread Alex


On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Babette Turner-Underwood wrote:

> As far as staff and skills, the current job market
> has an excess of persons with PL/SQL skills.
> So I don't think the decisions was made with any
> respect to how many people will be able to maintain
> this over the next 10 years.  The number of people
> with COBOL skills is declining at the organization.
> But if they keep doing new development in COBOL,
> then maybe they will be able to convince the younger
> programmers to learn it :-P

Only if the younger programmers are in their fifties. COBOL is a
maintainance programmers language.

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RE: Too many db calls

2002-11-18 Thread Alex Hillman
Does anybody knows if it possible to implement something like bulk binds and
bulk collection facilities using VB - like ADO.

Alex Hillman

-Original Message-
McDonald
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 1:19 PM
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With the advent of bulk bind and bulk collection
facilities in PL/SQL, you can get very close to the
"correct" SQL mechanisms...its just that not many
people tend to do it, and you end up with a gazillion
'one-row-at-a-time' applications out there.

Cheers
Connor

 --- Cary Millsap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
Greg,
>
> That's one case. PL/SQL is a really poor language in
> which to write an
> application. The language tricks you into believing
> that writing a
> scalable application can be accomplished in just a
> few lines of 4GL
> code, but it's really not true. To write scalable
> PL/SQL, you need to
> use DBMS_SQL. The resulting code is even more
> cumbersome than the same
> function written in Pro*C.
>
> Any language can be abused, though. We see a lot of
> Java, Visual Basic,
> and Powerbuilder applications that do stuff like...
>
> 1. Parse inside loops, using literals instead of
> bind variables.
> 2. Parse *twice* for each execute by doing
> describe+parse+execute.
> 3. Manipulate one row at a time instead of using
> array processing
> capabilities on fetches or inserts (this one,
> ironically, raises a
> system's BCHR while it kills response time).
> 4. Join result sets in the application instead of in
> the database.
>
>
> Cary Millsap
> Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
> http://www.hotsos.com
>
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> - Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu
> - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System
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> -Original Message-
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:38 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Cary,
>
> Thank you.
>
> Could you elaborate on the issue of excessive
> database calls, which show
> up
> as excessive network traffic?
>
> I can picture a PL/SQL loop, which executes an SQL
> statement over and
> over
> again.  This would produce many database calls, and
> it might be possible
> to
> remove the loop altogether, replacing it with a
> single SQL statement.
> This
> would reduce the database calls.
>
> Is this the "classic" type of situation that
> produces too many db calls?
> Or
> are there other situations I'm missing that are more
> likely to be the
> source
> of this problem?
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 4:13 PM
>
>
> > Greg,
> >
> > I believe that the cultural root cause of the
> excessive LIO problem is
> > the conception that physical I/O is what makes
> databases slow. Disk
> I/O
> > certainly *can* make a system slow, but in about
> 598 of 600 cases
> we've
> > seen in the past three years, it hasn't. ["Why you
> should focus on
> LIOs
> > instead of PIOs" at www.hotsos.com/catalog]
> >
> > The fixation on PIO of course focuses people's
> attention on the
> database
> > buffer cache hit ratio (BCHR) metric for
> evaluating efficiency. The
> > problem is that the BCHR is a metric of INSTANCE
> efficiency, not SQL
> > efficiency. However, many people mistakenly apply
> it as a metric of
> SQL
> > efficiency anyway.
> >
> > Of course, if one's radar equates SQL efficiency
> with the BCHR's
> > proximity to 100%, then a lot of really bad SQL is
> going to show up on
> > your radar wrongly identified as really good SQL.
> ["Why a 99% buffer
> > cache hit ratio is not okay" at
> www.hotsos.com/catalog]
> >
> > One "classic" result is that people go on search
> and destroy missions
> > for all full-table scans. They end up producing
> more execution plans
> > that look like this than they should have:
> >
> >   NESTED LOOPS
> > TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID
> >   INDEX RANGE SCAN
> > TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID
> >   INDEX RANGE SCAN
> >
> > This kind of plan produces great hit ratios
> because it tends to
> revisit
> > the same small set of blocks over and over again.
> This kind of plan is
> > of course appropriate in many cases. But sometimes
> it is actually less
> > work in the database to use full-table scans.
> ["When to use a

RE: OT ksh day of week yesterday

2002-11-13 Thread Alex
same thing. time offset. This may not work on all systems because of how
TZ is used.

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Sherman, Edward wrote:

> My TZ is EST5EDT and I think the 5 implies GMT-05:00
> What does the 26 in EST26EDT imply?
>
> Just curious.
> Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:24 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> yesterday=$(TZ=EST26EDT date +%a)
>
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Barbara Baker wrote:
>
> >
> > Will someone take pity on this poor VMS'er lost in a unix world??
> >
> > I'm trying to create a script (ksh) that reads a log file created
> > yesterday.  The log files are created with `date +%a` appended to the
> > end of the log file name.  Last night a log file was created called
> > arc_indexlog.Tue  It's easy enough to get today
> >
> >TDAY="`date +%a`"
> >grep -i "ora" /orasrv/ops/maint/logs/arc_indexlog.$TDAY
> >grep -i "ora" /orasrv/ops/maint/logs/adv_indexlog.$TDAY
> >
> > but how do I get yesterday in the same format? (i.e., Tue instead of Wed)
> I man'd date, but it was no help.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Barb
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley & videos from Greatest Hits CD
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Re: OT ksh day of week yesterday

2002-11-13 Thread Alex
yesterday=$(TZ=EST26EDT date +%a)

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Barbara Baker wrote:

>
> Will someone take pity on this poor VMS'er lost in a unix world??
>
> I'm trying to create a script (ksh) that reads a log file created yesterday.  The 
>log files are created with `date +%a` appended to the end of the log file name.  Last 
>night a log file was created called arc_indexlog.Tue  It's easy enough to get today
>
>TDAY="`date +%a`"
>grep -i "ora" /orasrv/ops/maint/logs/arc_indexlog.$TDAY
>grep -i "ora" /orasrv/ops/maint/logs/adv_indexlog.$TDAY
>
> but how do I get yesterday in the same format? (i.e., Tue instead of Wed)   I man'd 
>date, but it was no help.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Barb
>
>
>
> -
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RE: Unkillable Background process "SHUTDOWN ABORT LEAVES UNKILLABLE

2002-10-31 Thread Alex
try kill -TERM

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Reboot and open a TAR.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
> "Sinardy Xing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>UNKILLABLE
> PROCESSES"
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am using solaris 8
>
>
> Sinardy
>
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> PROCESSES"
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I do shutdown abort my LGWR and CKPT still around and also kill -9
> cannot get rid of them anyone know why ?
>
> because of this my cluster fail to failover
>
> Thanks
>
> Sinardy
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Re: Unix Q: Substring-ing an output.

2002-10-27 Thread Alex
ps -ef|grep [p]mon | awk '{ print $7 }' | sed 's/ora_pmon_//'

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> I want to feed my shell script with the names of currently running
> databases.  I thought of using ps -ef|grep [p]mon.  What I got was the
> following:
>   oracle 20113 1  0   Oct 25 ?0:01 ora_pmon_TLDEV
>   oracle   898 1  0   Jul 22 ?0:06 ora_pmon_TLQA
>   oracle   944 1  0   Jul 22 ?0:07 ora_pmon_TLQAVAR
>   oracle 19588 1  0   Oct 25 ?0:00 ora_pmon_DBMON
>   oracle 13509 1  0 12:16:13 ?0:00 ora_pmon_RMAN
>   oracle 20450 1  0   Oct 25 ?0:00 ora_pmon_PRDINF
>   oracle 13026 1  0   Oct 26 ?0:00 ora_pmon_TLDVVAR
>
> What I wanted is get only the db name part eg. TLDEV, RMAN, DBMON,etc.  I
> don't want to rely on oratab file.
> I was thinking of using 'cut' to cut out the last field and do some ${X##}
> (variable pattern substitution) to get to the dbname bit.  The trouble is
> the number of fields in a ps -ef output is not consistent.  As you can see
> I've just restarted RMAN and now it only has 8 fields as compared to 9 for
> the others.
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> Any suggestions?  Or another way of doing it?
> Using KSH on Solaris 8.
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Re: Oracle DBA vs JAVA programmer???

2002-10-25 Thread Alex
DBA would be a safer bet. As far as programmer, don't pigeon
hole yourself as a Java programmer but rather someone who knows how
to program. But if you only have a few years of VB then you'll wind up
doing maintenance.

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> I need your idea.  I got laid off as an Oracle DBA (3
> yrs experience), and it's hard to find a DBA position
> here(I'm in Colorado).  I had couple of years
> experience programming (3 yrs) in VB, and currently
> learning JAVA.  I'd like to know is JAVA market still
> hot?  (I can relocate to New Jersey, any memeber in
> New Jersey? how is the market over there, for Oracle
> DBA or JAVA programmer?)
>
> What do you think which position is better, Oracle DBA
> or Java programmer?  Based on compensation, workload,
> market demand, etc, etc ...
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RE: Theory v Practice

2002-10-23 Thread Alex



On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Mandar A. Ghosalkar wrote:

> 3 yrs after ur developers code the VB app, the original team vanishes(they start 
>working on .net .. or maybe java)
> The new team even after going through the docs and vb application libraries, forget 
>the right joins and insert invalid data/update rows in the master without taking care 
>of the details/ delete some master records, etc.
>
> What next happens at the call center of ur company  ?
>
> Believe me there would always be a legitimate need (not hack) to correct some data 
>using sql*plus like tools. At that point you would need to depend on RI.
>
> -Mandar

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Re: oracle or mssql

2002-10-23 Thread Alex
It depends on your companies needs.

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Re: TOAD ?

2002-08-30 Thread Alex

You need oracel client on your PC
can you connect from sqlplus?

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> I want to connect from my desk top to UNIX DB box but I am unable to.can
> Some one help me if they have?
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Re: basic Unix question ???

2002-08-29 Thread Alex



On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Janet Linsy wrote:

> Hi all,
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> I have two questions.  First, how to find out
> information about my unix box, like version, etc.

uname -a

>
> In my box, I can use hostname to get the machine name.
>  I remember there is a command called version, but I
> got "Ksh: version: not found."  Any other useful
> commands to know about my machine?

anything in /bin  /usr/bin  /usr/local/bin  /usr/sbin

man man
man -k some_keyword_you_are_looking_for

>
> Actually when I use top, it also returns "ksh: top:
> not found."  My second question is where does ksh
> usually reside, which value should I set for PATH.
>
> Thank you in advance.
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Re: JBDC thin driver

2002-07-30 Thread Alex

just put the zip file on your path

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> i want to user JDBC thin driver. i can install it from the
> CD on windows using the manually configured installation.
>
> since thin driver is said to be purely java, i want to use
> it on linux, too. which are the necessary files?
>
> are they in
> $ORACLE_HOME\jdbc\lib\classes111.zip
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> could not find help in metalink
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RE: Slightly OT: Chart generation tool for db monitoring scripts

2002-07-29 Thread Alex

perl with GD module

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> Does anyone know of any simple utility that will take a data file and
> generate a quick chart. I'd like to generate a chart of number of
> transactions per time period. I can generate the output through a SQL
> query.
>
> Actually I'd like to do this for more data, but this is just an example.
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Re: Function

2002-07-18 Thread Alex

Look for
owa_pattern.match()

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> Example:
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> is_number('ABC') = FALSE
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RE: McCain on Larry Ellison and Corporate Responsibility / Re: OT

2002-07-15 Thread Alex



On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Johnson, Michael  wrote:

> Everyone should have been smart enough to sell stocks and
> put their money into cash or better yet short stocks
> when it was very clear that in the Fall of 2000 after the
> initial March 2000 sell off that we were going into
> a prolonged Bear market.

It's always easy to play monday morning quarterback. I assume you are now
retired because you made so much money from the very clear and prolonged
Bear market you forcasted in Fall 2000.

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Re: OT - unix vs linux vs windows - the future

2002-07-15 Thread Alex



On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, ltiu wrote:

> But do all these matter though? Everyone's moving to MS software and *nixes

Who is "everyone"?
And what software in particular?

> are getting rarer and rarer. The fact is that everyone's losing money (Sun,
> IBM, HP, SGI even RedHat and Caldera) - except MS. It's an MS world like it
> or not.
>
> ltiu
>
> On Monday 15 July 2002 08:33, Andrey Bronfin wrote:
> > "Good bet that smaller Unix vendors will run to Linux before vendors like
> > Sun do."
> > Not exactly , just look at homepages of sun , ibm , oracle .
> > There are more appearences of the word "linux" there than any word in
> > Britannica ;-)
> >
> >
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> > Jared - Good point. In addition, other costs to an independent Unix vendor
> > are:
> >- Staff costs of a large development staff. This cost doesn't vary,
> > regardless of the number of customers. Therefore, vendors with a small
> > market share have proportionally higher costs.
> >- Costs of attracting software vendors. If the Unix version has a large
> > market share, application software vendors (like Oracle) will gladly port
> > their product to your O.S. However, if your market share is low, vendors
> > are reluctant to support your O.S. Then you are trapped in the
> > chicken-and-egg syndrome (similar to "nobody will give me a job because I
> > don't have experience, but how can I get experience without a job"). Good
> > bet that smaller Unix vendors will run to Linux before vendors like Sun do.
> >
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> > I'm sure that many vendors welcome an opportunity
> > to stop paying royalties to AT&T for unix code.  I believe
> > that all mainstream vendor implementations of unix have
> > AT&T base.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> > On Sunday 14 July 2002 11:58, Andrey Bronfin wrote:
> > > hi !
> > > i might start another war , but i can't resist a part of me which wants
> > > to ask :
> > > what do you , seasoned gurus, think of everybody's (as it seems to be)
> > > plans to abandon the "classic" unix for linux ?
> > > In particular , most database vendors (as well as other enterprise
> >
> > software
> >
> > > vendors) name linux as the future #1 platform for their DBs (especially
> > > given the fact that a DB cluster is not rare any more).
> > > It also looks like many development shops shift their efforts to develop
> >
> > on
> >
> > > windows (or , in some rare cases, linux ) instead of unix .
> > > What do you think about this ?
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Re: OT - unix vs linux vs windows - the future

2002-07-14 Thread Alex

Development shops that actually write native code will target an OS with
market share. Now, seeing that alot of code written today is interpreted
the move to linux, windows, or beatnix is irrelevent. As far as DB
vendors targeting linux they move in herds and have just finished
their linux port from when "linux" was a buzzword.

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Andrey Bronfin wrote:

> hi !
> i might start another war , but i can't resist a part of me which wants to
> ask :
> what do you , seasoned gurus, think of everybody's (as it seems to be) plans
> to abandon the "classic" unix for linux ?
> In particular , most database vendors (as well as other enterprise software
> vendors) name linux as the future #1 platform for their DBs (especially
> given the fact that a DB cluster is not rare any more).
> It also looks like many development shops shift their efforts to develop on
> windows (or , in some rare cases, linux ) instead of unix .
> What do you think about this ?
>
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Re: listener configuration on HP serviceguard clusters

2002-07-12 Thread Alex Feinstein
Title: RE: listener configuration on HP serviceguard clusters



Yes, I do.
IP of the node on which listener is running. Like I 
sad, listener belongs to the none, not package.
 
Alex.
 

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  Do 
  you have a listener.ora file?
   
  Which ip address is in it?
   
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  Matt, 
  We have two nodes cluster with three packages; two of them 
  have more than one database. Oracle software installed 
  on each node. Each listener belongs to node, not to package. When packaged started on the node it will startup instance(s) and each 
  instance will automatically registered with listener.
  In client's TNSNAMES.ORA we use package name, which resolved 
  to proper IP address. 
  Alex. 
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  If anybody out there is using HP ServiceGuard for 
  non-OPS/RAC, I would be interested to know how you 
  configure the listeners.  Do you use the machine 
  IP address or the package address in the listener.ora 
  (or do you not have a listener.ora and use dynamic 
  registration) One of the sys admins here instists that 
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  instances to dynamically register.  When the 
  second package fails over to the standby node, it does 
  not start a listener.  All client tnsnames.ora files use package names for HOST. 
  Do the instances in the second package register 
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Re: slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler

2002-07-08 Thread Alex

for your permissions and umask use all four digits and see what happens.



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> Ok,  I log in as oracle, touch a file I get 664 permission on it.
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> But when I create a file through OEM or a plsql procedure I get 644 permissions.
>
> My umask is 02.
>
> On another system - solaris everything ok.
>
> Both .profiles are the same.
>
> Sys admins no help.
>
> Any clues?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kathy
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Re: Perl Question - Split using |

2002-07-05 Thread Alex

my $HeaderAttributes = "abc|defgh|123";
$HeaderAttributes =~ s/\|/\\|/g;


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> After seeing the e-mails about "Perl for Oracle-DBAs",
> I presume, my question wouldn't be completely
> inappropriate for this list.
> So if you Oracle Gurus, can help me with this Perl
> problem,  I would greatly appreciate it.
> I have a problem with  "split"  when my delimiter is
> "|".
> I know that if I escape the pipe, split should work,
> that is only when it is a literal like
> split(/\|/, "abc|def|123)
>
> But when my delimiter is to be dynamically read from a
> file,  I have it in a variable.  Then this escaping
> stuff doesn't work..
> eg:
> my $HeaderAttributes = "abc|defgh|123";
> print "$HeaderAttributes\n";
> my $Delimiter = "\|";
> (@Fields) = split(/$Delimiter/, $HeaderAttributes);
> print "Delimiter = $Delimiter Field[0] =
> $Fields[0]\n";
>
> prints
> a
> instead of
> abc.
>
> Does somebody have a solution to this.
> Thanks much.
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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Alex

http://www.superscripts.com/tutorial/crontab.html

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> anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you want to schedule 
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> Is it possible to do that in unix cron job schedule.
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> Thanks in advance
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Re: Things to do when writing scripts in the Korn Shell

2002-06-27 Thread Alex

Anna Kornikova

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Jenkins, Michael - EDS wrote:

> Just some humor to pass the day.  Top things you can do while writing
> scripts in the Korn Shell:
>
> *  Listen to a Korn CD
> *  Eat some popKorn
> *  Munch on a roasted ear of Korn
> *  Rub the Korns on your feet
> *  Have a Cream Korn fight with your mate in the next cube.
> *  See how many Korn Chips you can burn in a glass ashtray before it expodes
> from the heat.
>
> Ok, so I had two seconds to think of these things as I was listening the new
> Korn CD, writing a Korn Shell script.
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Re: OT: GNU or [G]NU (Pronunciation of...)

2002-06-24 Thread Alex

The G sounds like the G in "Good question"

On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, mkb wrote:

> Ok, how is this pronounced?  Is the G in GNU slient or
> not?
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Re: Unix related - need some info

2002-06-23 Thread Alex

uname -a
top
dmesg
df -h



On Sat, 22 Jun 2002, Ray Stell wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 09:38:25AM -0800, Vladimir Barac - posao wrote:
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> >
> > I have two questions related to Linux and Solaris...
> >
> > * I need do find memory usage (physical, virtual...) of a particular
> > proccess. PID is given by by "ps", but what aditional parameters I have to
> > provide? At a first glance, output of "man ps" vas confusing...
>
>
> try using top
>
>
> > * How do I find computer's configuration - what CPU, numbers of CPUs, clock,
> > amount of memory, number of harddrives, what version of OS, what OS patches
> > are applied...?
>
> look at /etc/syslog.conf which will tell you where your system messages
> are, there should be some helpful info there.
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RE: Connecting as sysdba via ODBC / VB

2002-06-12 Thread Alex Hillman

>From where did you download it? Maybe there exist new version of OLEDB
provider for ADO?

Alex Hillman

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Someone in the last few days requested info on connecting as sysdba from VB.
I deleted the email at the time but I just downloaded the ODBC driver
version 8.1.7.6.0 and found the following:
"NEW FEATURES

ODBC 8.1.7.6.0
Added support for connection syntax "/ as sysdba" and
"/ as sysoper".  The "as sysdba" and "as sysoper" string
can also be contained in the password field.  (Bug 2114033)
Added support for the statement attribute SQL_ATTR_RETRIEVE_DATA.  (Bug
2165706)

ODBC 8.1.7.5.0
Added support for / syntax to be used as username to log
on. (as requested by Bug 1094170)  "

I hope this might be of use and perhaps will work via OCI etc from VB.

HTH,
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RE: Remove Duplicates

2002-06-12 Thread Alex Hillman



Ferenc, what happened with your web site - at least 
with Oracle version of it?
 
Alex 
Hillman

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  Tom. 
  Replies below.
  Regards: Ferenc Mantfeld Senior Performance Engineer Siebel 
  Performance Engineering Melbourne, 3000, 
  VIC, Australia -Original 
  Message-From: Terrian, Tom 
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  Remove Duplicates
  

I know I have seen this posted 
before...
 
We have a large range 
partitioned table that has duplicates in it.  What is the fastest way 
to remove the dups.?  I have the following scripts which do it but may 
be fast or slow.  What do you guys use?
DELETE FROM tablename WHERE ROWID NOT IN 
  (SELECT MIN(ROWID)     FROM tablename     GROUP 
BY fieldnames); [Ferenc 
Mantfeld] This will be your fastest way, provided you have an index on 
the columns searched for. Actually the format of the statement would 
be
 
delete from INVOICE_DETAILS A where A.rowid 
>
(select 
min(rowid) from INVOICE_DETAILS B where 
    B.INV_NUM=A.INV_NUM and 
B.LINE_NUM=A.LINE_NUM ) 
;
 
Ensure you have a composite index on 
INVOICE_DETAILS (INV_NUM, LINE_NUM).
Or
alter table &table_name 
   add constraint duplicate_cons 
   unique key (&column_name) 
 exceptions into 
exception table;[Ferenc Mantfeld] Problem with this is when you want 
to delete the duplicates, you have no way of telling, unless you code the 
min function again. If you have triplicates, and want to keep one 
of them and blow away the other two, this is a tedious way, and all 
this does is to help you identify the 
duplicates. 
How to find duplicates:
select &column_name, count(&column_name) 
 from &table_name 
 group by 
&column_name    having 
count(&column_name) > 1; [Ferenc Mantfeld] Same as above. only 
identifies the duplicates, does nothing to remove 
them. 
 
Tom 
 


connect as SYSDBA using ADO

2002-06-07 Thread Alex Hillman

I am trying to find out how to connect as SYSDBA using ADO in Visual Basic.
Did not see any mention of sysdba in the doc.

Alex Hillman


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Archiver process in 7.3.4

2002-06-05 Thread Alex Hillman

Anybody knows how to get status of archiver process programmatically in
Oracle 7.3.4?
This information is available from v$instance in Oracle 8+.

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Re: MySQL versus Oracle

2002-05-31 Thread Alex

This depends on what the interview is for. MySQL, Oracle, Access,
PostgresSQL, and SQLServer are all databases and can be accessed with SQL. 
Other than that, they are all completely different. 

On Fri, 31 May 2002, Joe Testa wrote:

> Anyone on the list done a comparison(or worked with both) MySQL and 
> Oracle and can give me the good/bad points of My SQL?
> 
> Doing interviewer thing and someone has My SQL who would like to move 
> into the oracle world and i know nothing about mySQL and am wondering if 
> the transition from one to the other is easily done.
> 
> thanks, joe
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RE: How to find current ORACLE_HOME programmatically

2002-05-22 Thread Alex Hillman

Looks like no takers, except one whos great advice was to find it somewhere
in the registry.

Alex Hillman

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Hi, guys.

I need to find current value of ORACLE_HOME on the client from VB program,
running on that client. I understand that it is in the registry somewhere. I
have 2 client installations - one is 8.1.7 and another is 9 on the same
client. Apparently EM from 9 installation knows that needed tsnames.ora is
in 9 ORACLE_HOME and 8.1.7 EM knows that tsnames.ora in 8.1.7. installation.
And my VB program select tsnames.ora from 8.1.7 installation

Any ideas?

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How to find current ORACLE_HOME programmatically

2002-05-20 Thread Alex Hillman

Hi, guys.

I need to find current value of ORACLE_HOME on the client from VB program,
running on that client. I understand that it is in the registry somewhere. I
have 2 client installations - one is 8.1.7 and another is 9 on the same
client. Apparently EM from 9 installation knows that needed tsnames.ora is
in 9 ORACLE_HOME and 8.1.7 EM knows that tsnames.ora in 8.1.7. installation.
And my VB program select tsnames.ora from 8.1.7 installation

Any ideas?

Alex Hillman


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RE: Oracle version usage

2002-05-14 Thread Alex Hillman

I am especially interested in percentage of 7.3 and 8.0 installation. Maybe
it is a good idea to mail me directly and I then will post the results.

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Maybe the question was not correctly formulated. Anybody has some knowledge
or maybe gess about percentages of 7.3, 8.0, 8.1 and 9 in production and
prognosys for a year. Maybe some studies were published?

Alex Hillman

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> Anybody knows what percentage of production databases are 7.3, 8.0 and 8.1
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RE: Oracle version usage

2002-05-13 Thread Alex Hillman

Maybe the question was not correctly formulated. Anybody has some knowledge
or maybe gess about percentages of 7.3, 8.0, 8.1 and 9 in production and
prognosys for a year. Maybe some studies were published?

Alex Hillman

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Oracle version usage

2002-05-10 Thread Alex Hillman

Anybody knows what percentage of production databases are 7.3, 8.0 and 8.1
and prognosys in an year.

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RE: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-05 Thread Alex Hillman

Anjo, you mentioned third party tool using instead of 10046 event trace
files. What is the tool and how it works - if you have this info of cource.

Alex Hillman

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>
> Yes,
>
> I think that we are talking about different things:
>
> 1) I don't feel that we are abusing the queue theory by borrowing
> terms like
> service time and wait time.
>  Actually when I did the YAPP method, it was back in 1996 on
> a project that
> involved Tuxedo and the
>  programmers on the project wanted more processes. I had to
> convince them to
> do it with less and I
>  could do that with the service and wait time model (calculating the
> response time in the Oracle server for sessions). And it really
> works well.
>
> 2) The problem with tuning by hit ratios and tuning by counting
> (like number of
> buffer gets and number of physical I/O from
>  v$sqlarea) is that we ignore the cost or the time they take.
> We assume that
> each Logical I/O or buffer get is the same
>  cost. Which is not true. So the statement with a 1000 LIO
> could be more
> expensive than the statement with a 1200 LIO.
>  The same is true for the Physical I/O. Not each physical I/O
> has the same
> cost or response time.  Again the statement with
>  1000 I/Os may be more expensive than the 1200 I/Os, because
> one is going
> after different disks. I have run tests that show LIO for the same
>   statement to be all most twice as slow (depending on some
> settings, but
> the SQL is the same, same plan)
>
> 3) If you now take the service time (which is CPU) and that part
> is 80 percent
> of the total response time, we can tell management
> that a 50 percent faster CPU will make roughly a 40 percent
> difference.
> That is not to say that is the right approach, because
> the opposite may also happen (20 percent CPU and 80 percent
> wait, 50 percent
> faster will only make a 10 percent improvement).
> I have seen customers with response time problems that
> consisted for over 80
> percent of I/O problems (I/O too slow).  They needed a
> 50 percent improvement but couldn't fix the I/O. So they
> wanted to find 50
> percent some where else. That didn't happen ofcourse
> and they had to fix the I/O problem. Now that really helped
> management to
> understand where the priorities were: Yeeh, this is not
> a database problem but a disk array problem.
>
> 4) I believe that 80-90 percent of all Oracle applications out
> there in the
> field are highly inefficient. And that doesn't mean that they
> don't use bind variables or that they do many logical I/Os.
> And that the
> only way to fix them is faster CPU's (open to flames here ;-)) or do
> some serious redesigning.
>
> 5) Oracle provides many interesting statistics, but most of them
> only count. Now
> in Oracle 9i they have added some long overdue response time or
> timing statistics. But still it is lacking very important
> information.  For
> example, how can we tell what a SQL statement waited for a particular
> session between 2 AM and 3 AM (without 10046 tracing) or for
> all sessions ?
> If the session performs a business function, what resources did
> the session
> use in that period for that business function ? That
> information is hard to
> come by, or with very high overhead with the traditional Oracle tools.
>
> 6) probably the most important point. The database doesn't decide
> WHAT SQL to
> execute. The database decides HOW SQL should be executed. The application
> decides  WHAT to execute.  Many fast SQL statements can still
> result in a
> slow business function, because do we need all those functions ?
> I have another
> favorite formula for that: Amount * Cost => total cost.  So
> either reduce
> the cost or reduce the amount of SQL statements.  Showed this formula to
> bunch of people at an Oracle user group in the netherlands. 2
> days later, I
> got an email from someone saying that they concentrated on the
> amount instead of
> cost
> They reduced the batch job time from 2 hours to 10 minutes
> without tuning
> the SQL statement, but tuned the function.
>
> 7) The response time model gives the end-user perspective
> (without actually
> having to go to the coffee machine, unless you want coffee ;-)),
> but talking to
> them
>  is very valuable. That doesn't mean they are right ;-)
>
> An

Re: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?

2002-05-02 Thread Alex

You must be pretty smart then. I wonder why rates for java are not $6/hr
seeing that it only takes a week to learn. 
You could probably say any language is easy to learn; it is just ifs,
elses, and loops.

On Thu, 2 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It ain't that tough.  We're not talking about taking a programming
> class without any experience, I've done a bit of it before.
> 
> Learning all the API's, etc.: that would take some time.
> 
> The language?  It isn't that difficult, though I would be 
> hard put to write any at the moment.  The job I was going
> to use Java on was at Enron, and we all know what happened
> to that.
> 
> It's been a year since I took the class, and I *much* prefer
> Perl.  It can run circles around Java for most stuff.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> It took you a week to learn it? Then you obviously do not know it. 
> Syntax is one thing design is another. I would love to know what you
> learned in that week.
>  
> 
> On Thu, 2 May 2002, Jared Still wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hold on Lisa!
> > 
> > Java is not complex.  It's a very simple language
> > actually.  It took me a week to learn it, though I'm 
> > not using it now:  I much prefer Perl.
> > 
> > Getting a handle on all of the libraries and API's is
> > another story, but Java as a language is pretty simple.
> > 
> > Jared
> > 
> > On Tuesday 30 April 2002 11:14, Koivu, Lisa wrote:
> > > You have a point Chris, but pl/sql is nowhere near as complex as an OO
> > > language like java or C++, IMHO.  I agree with Tom that pl/sql can be
> > > learned fairly easily in comparison to the many other choices out 
> there.
> > > However, it takes a bit of database savvy to do it correctly.  (Not 
> much
> > > tho)
> > >
> > > I was amazed in my "database" class in college that the same people 
> failing
> > > the simple entity-relationship modeling portion of the class that had 
> aced
> > > the Op Systems and networking classes we took.  I nearly failed both
> > > classes, they were so complex.  I was the teacher's pet in the db 
> class
> > > because I asked him questions that made him think, and he sometimes
> > > couldn't answer.  (And I had to wear a skirt - night student, straight 
> from
> > > work.)
> > >
> > > What's easy for who is dependent on the person's strengths.
> > >
> > > Lisa Koivu
> > > Oracle Database Monkey Mama
> > > Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
> > > 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
> > > Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From:  Grabowy, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent:  Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:14 PM
> > > > To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject:   RE: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?
> > > >
> > > > IMHO, I don't believe that you can "properly" learn PL/SQL in a very
> > > > short period of time, or for that matter, any other language.
> > > >
> > > > I attended Steve Feuerstein's presentation at MAOP-AOTC conference, 
> and
> > > > he tore into many real-life examples of PL/SQL.  Supposedly, these 
> were
> > > > written
> > > > by developers that knew what they were doing.
> > > >
> > > > Granted, if a smart developer sits down and reads Feuerstein's 
> Learning
> > > > PL/SQL and Best Practices books, then perhaps they will be good. But 
> who
> > > > the hell has free time?  There is no free time on any project or 
> effort
> > > > that
> > > > I know of!!  I'm struggling with trying to improve my Oracle DBA 
> skills,
> > > > plus some developers skills so I can speak their language when they 
> blow
> > > > out
> > > > OPEN_CURSORS or something.  My head is swimming in the stupid 
> technical
> > > > alphabet soup, XML, XDK, XSQL, XSLT, XPath, SOAP, ASP, ADO, EJB, 
> BC4J,
> > > > JDBC,
> > > > SQLJ, PSP, JVM, JSP, J2EE, EAD, RMI, CORBA, IIOP...and don't ask me 
> what
> > > > all
> >

Re: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?

2002-05-02 Thread Alex
 explicit/implicit
> > >
> > > > cursors, under pl/sql.  What on earth?
> > > >
> > > > Can someone elaborate, namely, Connor??  Please help me understand
> > >
> > > this...
> > >
> > > > My "green" may be showing, but my gosh.
> > > >
> > > > Lisa Koivu
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Re: UNIX Courses

2002-04-25 Thread Alex

I suggest you download linux or bsd and play around. 

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Simon Waibale wrote:

> Hi all,
> What Unix courses/modules would you recommend for a budding Oracle DBA
> Thanx,
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Re: Cronjob

2002-04-24 Thread Alex

 -e  Edit the current crontab using the editor specified by the
VISUAL or EDITOR environment variables.  The specified editor must
edit the file in place; any editor that unlinks the file and
recreates it cannot be used.  After you exit from the editor, the
modified crontab will be installed automatically.

He wants to delete the job. If he kills the process the job will run again
next time so editing the crontab file is th eonly way.

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> crontab -e is bad!
> 
> 1000 points if you can figure out why.
> ( guess I'm watching too much 'Whose Line Is It Anyway?" )
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
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Re: Cronjob

2002-04-24 Thread Alex

crontab -e

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, bill thater wrote:

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Re: MySQL vs. Oracle database

2002-04-17 Thread Alex

I did not say MySQL was like Access. I said it is
more like Access than it is like Oracle. 

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Gurelei wrote:

> Alex,
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> Just wondering why do you think MySQL is closer to
> Access than to Oracle. I have played with MySQL a
> little and it is a relational database like Oracle 
> (not sure if access is one), uses a SQL, can have
> logging and archiving just like Oracle. Again I'm not
> sure whether access have all this. To me, if Oracle is
> a BMW and MySQL is a Chevy (as someone else compared),
> access would be a horse cart at best. Am I wrong?
> 
> Gene
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Re: MySQL vs. Oracle database

2002-04-17 Thread Alex

Check google. Anyway they are completely different. MySQL is more like
Access than Oracle.

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote:

> What is different between MySQL and Oracle database?  Someone says they are
> the same as they are just database.  From DBA or developer point of view,
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Re: Please ignore: Internet DBA'ng

2002-04-16 Thread Alex

thanks for posting your solution

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Sujatha Madan wrote:

> Solved this issue.
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> > We have a network/web hosting shop, and one of our customers is asking for
> > a firewall to be opened for DBA access over the internet. They want two
> > non-Oracle specific ports opened so that their Oracle Databases can be
> > administrated via the internet.
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> > Has anyone heard of any vulnerabilities associated with this? Or is there
> > anything that I should be aware of in terms of security? Or should I be
> > asking them any questions?
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Re: interview questions

2002-04-16 Thread Alex

It really depends on what the job entails.

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Maria Aurora VT de la Vega wrote:

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> I would like to ask anyone who were at one point worked as Oracle
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> or anyone who can give their opinion...
> I will be interviewing applicants for Oracle Developer position.
> Since I'm the only Oracle person in this shop, I was tasked to handle
> this interview.
> I have 0 experience with the use of any Oracle Development tools...
> And for me, as long as they know how to SQL and PLSQL...and respects
> their DBA...
> they're OK.
> I am not sure if there are other things I should ask..
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> Inputs Please!
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Re: No DBAs needed on AS400

2002-04-11 Thread Alex


So you can cover his ass when a problem happens.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Jay Hostetter wrote:

> We are going through a merger, and management is looking to eliminate positions.  
>Here is a brief summary of my discussion with the new director of IT:
> 
> Director: "Back when I we were using an AS400, we didn't need a DBA."
> Me: "Then you probably were just using files."
> Director: "No, it was a database."
> Me: "Could you issue SQL commands?"
> Director: "Yes.  But we didn't need a DBA.  I guess it was just one of those 
>mysteries of life."
> 
> 
> My thoughts are that he is using the term "database" in the generic sense of the 
>word (our "files" are our database), or he was using some proprietary database that 
>doesn't even begin to compare to Oracle.
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> For those of you who know AS400s, I would appreciate some insight that would 
>demonstrate why he needs to keep me as a DBA.
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RE: Does index need rebuilding when table is truncated

2002-04-09 Thread Alex Hillman

Table need to be reanalyzed and with table - indexes.

Alex Hillman

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