RE: Need some white papers on replication

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Orafaw is a dead link for me from here...

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Bill:
Anita Bardeen's Replication DOs and DON'Ts is excellent.  All of Lawrence
To's White Papers are good
Graceful Switchover and Switchback, Oracle Standby Database
Oracle8i Standby Database
Mission Critical Recovery Within 30 Minutes
I believe these are all on Metalink.

www.orafaw.com/fawrepl.htm as an Oracle Replication FAQ

Sorry, don't know of any good book recommendations.
Barb



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 i really need some papers on replication and any book recommendations.
 
 TiA!!
 
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RE: HUGE numbers is V$SYSTAT

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Steve,

Do you have the BUG#?

Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan
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OWS confirmed it's a bug and needs to be back ported for Linux. Sigh...

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Steve,

The number 18,446,744,069,414,584,320 is 0x000. So looks like
some of the counters are hitting their max values. I clearly suspect this
could be a BUG.

Have you directly queried $ksusgsta? If your X$KSUSSGTA shows correct values
then there is something went wrong during the conversion. Otherwise this
could be a BUG.

BTW Which version of Oracle? Looks like you are on some 64 Bit Oracle?



Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan
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I'm finding HUGE numbers in the V$SYSTAT table. For instance for statistic#
1, logons current the number is 18,446,744,069,414,584,320... I don't
think so!

What's the cause and what's the cure? I used know about this but now I
forget. Sigh...


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RE: Old Chestnut: Tablespace Fragmentation

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I know this one has been done to death:  use uniform extents to avoid 
fragmentation; multiple extents don't hurt (within limits).

But what if:

Data Warehouse, one big table on a single disk, full table (batch) scan, no 
concurrent transactions on the database (so no contention for the disk), no 
fragmentation at the file system level, initially empty buffer cache 
(startup), read-only operation so DBWR isn't doing anything on this 
disk.  Basically I want to read one data file from end to end.  Surely it 
would make sense to have the disk read moving smoothly from one end of the 
disk to the other rather than bouncing about all over the place as it may 
do with multiple extents randomly allocated.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
- Bill.

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RE: RETURNING clause

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Hi list,
I am firing foll query from oracle forms 
INSERT INTO TABLE_NAME (col1,col2,..) VALUES(val1,val2,..) RETURNING ROWID
INTO var_rowid.

it displays me follwoing error.

ORA-00439:feature not enabled:RETURNING clause
from this client type

Is there any way to enable this feature from client ?

(i know that in Forms ,there is a property of
 BLOCK 'DML returning value :YES/NO'  but my table is not attached to the
block )

(same query works fine from sqlplus)
(Forms 6i, Orcale 8.1.6)

Any help is appreciated
Thx
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RE: Re[2]: address parse

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To throw a totally different twist into the combination:
The new IRS ( yer favorite U.S. institution) form for corporations to
report taxable income for individuals requires---
1.If the address of the individual is in the U.S. use the
street1,street1,city,county,state,zip fields.
2.If the address of the individual is outside the U.S. place all the
information into 1 field.
makes for a nightmare to parse the information.
ROR mª¿ªm

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John,

We're actually messing with you a little bit, having fun at your
incomplete question.  Not only are there many things that could be
considered an address, some of them have several components that could
be combined in several different ways.  Not only that, but there are
different ways that you might choose to represent those components.

A common street address example would be that given something like:

'1293 Incomplete Drive, Suite 2001, Mail Stop H, Specification City,
Oklahoma, 74953-0011'

And a common set of fields to parse it into would be:

AddressLine1
AddressLine2
City
State
Zip

When stating a parsing problem both the input form and the output form
need to specified.  Also any peculiar rules.  Above you'd need to
state things like:

-Assume USA address
-Comma separated fields
-City state and zip are last three fields
-First field always AddressLine1
-If 4 fields AddressLine2 left null
-If 5 fields then field 2 is AddressLine2
-If 6 or more fields, then fields 2 - (n-3) are concatenated separated
by commas in AddressLine2
-State will be stored as 2 character state code
-Zip can be either 5 digit or 9 digit (no dash) codes

Now given all that, a parse routine could be written.  But lacking
such a specification, the question is very open for various
interpretation, any of which has only a remote chance of meeting your
needs.

-rje


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S Anybody already have an address string parser (plsql) already
written
S that
S they would care to share?

S Address?  IP?  Internet mail?  USPS?  Memory address?  URL?





-rje


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DISREGARD, JUST A TEST

2002-02-26 Thread Babich , Sergey








TEST ONLY








Problem running a report

2002-02-26 Thread Babich , Sergey








Hi, ladies and gentlemen,

Here is a good one. We have 25 offices nation wide, running
similar reports. At the headquarters the one in consideration takes 12 min to
complete. Any other office (WAN) it gets stuck and takes a few hours if it
completes at all. Here is the output from V$SESSION_WAIT for the session:

 SID SEQ#
EVENT
P1TEXT
P1 P1RAW P2TEXT
P2 P2RAW
P3TEXT
P3 P3RAW WAIT_TIME SEC_WT STATE

- - -
-- -  --
-  -- - 
- -- -

 82 31384
SQL*Net message from clie driver id 675562835
28444553
#bytes
1
0001
0
00
0 0 WAITING

After some time:



 SID SEQ#
EVENT
P1TEXT
P1 P1RAW P2TEXT
P2 P2RAW
P3TEXT
P3 P3RAW WAIT_TIME SEC_WT STATE

- - -
-- -  --
-  -- - 
- -- 

 82 33799
SQL*Net message from clie driver id 675562835
28444553
#bytes
1
0001
0
00
0 0 WAITING



and so on.(SEQ# increases and then resets).



At the headquarters (LAN) it shows the same event after
scattered read and it is done. Could that be a SQL*Net issue between LAN and
WAN?

Any ideas are appreciated as always.

TIA,

Sergey












RE: Problem running a report

2002-02-26 Thread Babich , Sergey









Thank you, Mladen. It's always good
to know that the guess was right



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That wait is, essentially, an idle wait.
That means that the database processes are waiting for the 





message from the client, which, quite
obviously, is taking it's time. Yes, I think that getting yourself





a Snoopy (network engineer with a packet
sniffer) would probably be a good idea.





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Hi, ladies and gentlemen,

Here is a good one. We have 25 offices nation wide, running
similar reports. At the headquarters the one in consideration takes 12 min to
complete. Any other office (WAN) it gets stuck and takes a few hours if it
completes at all. Here is the output from V$SESSION_WAIT for the session:

 SID SEQ#
EVENT
P1TEXT
P1 P1RAW
P2TEXT
P2 P2RAW
P3TEXT
P3 P3RAW WAIT_TIME SEC_WT STATE

- - -
-- -  --
-  -- - 
- -- -

 82 31384
SQL*Net message from clie driver id 675562835
28444553
#bytes
1 0001
0
00
0 0 WAITING

After some time:



 SID SEQ#
EVENT
P1TEXT
P1 P1RAW
P2TEXT
P2 P2RAW
P3TEXT
P3 P3RAW WAIT_TIME SEC_WT STATE

- - -
-- -  --
-  -- - 
- -- 

 82 33799
SQL*Net message from clie driver id 675562835
28444553 #bytes
1
0001
0 00
0 0 WAITING



and so on.(SEQ# increases and then resets).



At the headquarters (LAN) it shows the same event after
scattered read and it is done. Could that be a SQL*Net issue between LAN and
WAN?

Any ideas are appreciated as always.

TIA,

Sergey














RE: Problem running a report

2002-02-26 Thread Babich , Sergey

Thanks to everyone who responded. The database is centralized. Yesterday I
PINGed some machines in different offices (and TRACERTed, too) right from
the server, and the response time was under 100 msec. However, some offices
reported it to have run normally. That particular report creates a big file
on C: (local machine) which raises the question if the machine had enough
space on that drive and how fragmented it was... Oh, users
Best regards to everyone,
Sergey


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Are you using remote connections to a centralized database, or does each
office have its own database?

Tracert and netstat commands should help you figure out if its a network
issue.

Regards
Raj




 

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Hi, ladies and gentlemen,
Here is a good one. We have 25 offices nation wide, running similar
reports. At the headquarters the one in consideration takes 12 min to
complete. Any other office (WAN) it gets stuck and takes a few hours if it
completes at all. Here is the output from V$SESSION_WAIT for the session:
  SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -
  --  -    --  -  
-  --  -
   82  31384  SQL*Net message from clie  driver id   675562835
28444553  #bytes  1  0001  0  00
0   0  WAITING
After some time:

  SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -
  --  -    --  -  
-  --  
   82  33799  SQL*Net message from clie  driver id   675562835
28444553  #bytes  1  0001  0  00
0   0  WAITING

and so on.(SEQ# increases and then resets).

At the headquarters (LAN) it shows the same event after scattered read and
it is done. Could that be a SQL*Net issue between LAN and WAN?
Any ideas are appreciated as always.
TIA,
Sergey





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Function based indexes

2002-02-26 Thread Babich , Sergey








Hi, everyone,

This may seem very simple to you, but what's the best
way to see if a fresh FBI (sorry!) is used during the execution? Are they
reported in the same manner to the SQL trace as other ones? 

Regards,

Sergey








RE: ORA-27072

2002-02-25 Thread Babich , Sergey

I used to have similar problems with Arcserve.
Best,
Sergey

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I'll bet you a case of Virtual Beer that it's your backup software.
Most likely you are using Arcserve, correct?

It's misconfigured and/or broken, and definately not the best 
backup solution around.

Jared





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Hi all..
 
My database is going down frequently  showing this error in alertfile . 
This  is happening to different datafiles and controlfiles.
What are the possibilities that cause this error ? How can i avoid this 
error ?
 
oracle 8.1.7 in win2k 
 
 
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\acusis\bdump\acusisCKPT.TRC:
ORA-00206: error in writing (block 3, # blocks 1) of controlfile
ORA-00202: controlfile: 'D:\ORADATA\CONTROL01.CTL'
ORA-27072: skgfdisp: I/O error
OSD-04008: WriteFile() failure, unable to write to file
O/S-Error: (OS 33) The process cannot access the file because another 
process has locked a portion of the file.
 
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RE: using dbms_output.put_line to write out a blank line

2002-02-25 Thread Babich , Sergey

Did you try a tab instead?

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anyone know how to use dbms_output.put_line to write out  a blank line?

tried this:  dbms_output.put_line (' ');   -- single space between the two
single quotes

but it doesn't work.

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RE: Problem with Rollback segment getting locked

2002-02-22 Thread Babich , Sergey
Title: Problem with Rollback segment getting locked









Hi, Viral,

Are these RB segments public?

Regards,

Sergey



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Hi
All, 


I have about 12 Rollback segmennts in my database  25 concurrent users
logged in. I am continuously facing problems of oracle just keep locking couple
of Rollback segments. other people have to wait till Oracle releses the locks
on this rollback segments.

My
Query is..Why Oracle is just using the few rollback segments from the avilable
12  then others have to wait till the locks on the rollback segments are
released.

Pls
help..This is URGENT!!


Regards, 

Viral Amin

 








RE: Create Database ... really dumb question

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RE: SP2 error

2002-02-13 Thread Babich , Sergey

You can't do that in SQL*Plus:
SET COLUMN_NAME .
You can see the list of parameters which you can set by issuing SHOW ALL
(except a few).
If you want to format a column, than:
COL col_name_or_alias FORMAT .
HTH,
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How do I investigate the following error?
SP2-0735: unknown SET option beginning column_name=...
I don't seem to find much...
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RE: Rollback Segment Problem

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RE: Rollback Segment Problem

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RE: Rollback Segment Problem

2002-02-13 Thread Babich , Sergey
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400M. This would suggest to me that none of the previous month's deletions
exceeded 400M per month, so why should it fail on this particular one when
it had nearly 3,000M available?

Is there something I am not understanding about rollback segments ??

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RE: parallel execution

2002-02-12 Thread Babich , Sergey

How about DBA_TABLES where degree1?
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Good morning all,

It there a view which tell which tables are in parallel?I would like to
see which table have parallel execution turned on.

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Patch 8.1.7.3 for NT/2000

2002-02-12 Thread Babich , Sergey








FYI:

It's available on Metastink and supposedly fixes a lo-o-o-o-o-ta
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Latest patch for 8.1.7.0.0 (Win2k)

2002-02-06 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, everyone,
Couldn't find anything on Metastink. Could someone forgive my dumbness and
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TIA,
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RE: Duplicate rows

2002-02-06 Thread Babich , Sergey

Or to just count them:
SELECT col1,col2.coln,count(*) from table 
Group by col1,col2...coln 
Having count(*) 1;


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RE: Duplicate rows

2002-02-06 Thread Babich , Sergey

Delete from table_name where rowid not in(select min(rowid) from table_name
group by col1,col2,...coln);
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RE: Latest patch for 8.1.7.0.0 (Win2k)

2002-02-06 Thread Babich , Sergey

Thank you, I will try. Just got a response from Oracle support it was NOT
going to be released for a couple of days.
Bizarre, so bizarre

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Go to ftp://oracle-ftp.oracle.com/server/patchsets/NT and you should be able
to find it there.

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Hi, everyone,
Couldn't find anything on Metastink. Could someone forgive my dumbness and
help?
TIA,
Best,
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ORA-04030 Out of process memory trying to.....

2002-02-05 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, colleagues,
Could someone enlighten me on the above subject? 8.1.7.0.0/ Win2k 2.5G RAM.
Users get a lot of those when reports are run heavily. Once I opened a TAR
on that, and Oracle support recommended either cutting the db_block_buffers
(which I did), or changing the process memory addressability to 3G. Reports
use a lot of views based on joins of huge tables. Now I'm getting these
errors again. Any advice appreciated.
Regards,
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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-31 Thread Babich , Sergey

Thank you, Henry, but that still does not excuse my stupidity and being
superficial. I need to learn more about Oracle internals, and that's
something which is NOT taught at schools. So I try to learn it from you,
guys, and much appreciate this opportunity. Anyway, I've been successful,
too, so I was benevolently forgiven.
Best regards,
Sergey

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Sorry, I guess I was reading too quickly also. I saw the 10046 and skimmed
the rest. I assumed a session trace and didn't check the syntax. I'll try to
be more careful before responding in the future.

Henry

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Babich , Sergey wrote:

 However, I made the following entry into init.ora file: Event=
 10046 trace name errorstack level 12 and it rebooted over the
 weekend. Then I got a call from my boss on Monday morning (I was
 home sick) letting me know the system had come to a crawl and was
 producing a trace file every minute or so. Eventually, after some
 speculations, I told him to rem out that entry and reboot. That
 resolved the issue, but left me puzzled.

Oh, boy, I couldn't understand who would tell you to do that on a
production system, so I looked back in the archives and found this
exchange:

Sergey writes:

 Since I didn't expect that to happen, I had just SQL trace turned on
 for that particular session. Do you suggest entering event=10046
 trace name errorstack level 12 into init.ora?

Henry writes:

 Couldn't hurt. Also why not do some deltas of your session
 statistics (before and after snapshots)

I wish I had been paying more attention when this exchange was
happening, as I would have said something.  It can and does hurt, and
you should never set such an event system wide.  Furthermore, the
event syntax makes no sense.

I don't know where you got the syntax for the event, but it is really
wrong.  What you are essentially asking for is for every process to
dump a full errorstack (call stack trace, argument/register address
dump, cursor dump, heap dump and PGA dump), every time a process
starts up (same as setting 'immediate trace name errorstack...').
Furthermore, this event does not produce a 10046 trace.  It just gives
you an errorstack.

The correct syntax for a 10046 trace is:

10046 trace name context forever, level level

This should probably not be set instance-wide in the init.ora in a
production system.  It uses large amounts of resources.  Oracle
Support has from time to time tried to convince me to set this event
instance-wide, but they are mistaken and misguided.  It should be set
in the session you want to trace, either using 'alter session set
events,' 'dbms_system.set_ev(),' or 'oradebug event...'

The correct syntax for an errorstack is:

[immediate|errno] trace name errorstack, level level

This can be set safely at the instance (init.ora) level if you have it
dump on error.  If you have it dump on setting the event, as you did,
ever server process will have to do this dump when it starts, bringing
even a moderately utilized system to its knees.

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LOCK!!!

2002-01-31 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, guys,
Trying to figure out what my best option is. Some users are unable to access
the system. Previously I had a trace file with  Deadlock detected , but
that session was killed.
SELECT * FROM V$LOCK WHERE block0 or lmode=6
/

ADDR   KADDR   SID  TYID1ID2  LMODE
REQUEST  CTIME  BLOCK
     -  --  -  -  -
-  -  -
037DFE74  037DFE84  3 RT  1  0
6 01464073  0

Any quick  advice is appreciated.
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RE: LOCK!!!

2002-01-31 Thread Babich , Sergey

THX

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Why dont u check it out from v$session_wait
From what u have show below there is not locking issue
Check the v$session_wait,you should defnetly see something out there
It is better always to come from v$session_Wait
If you see any issues there then u got a probs


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Hi, guys,
Trying to figure out what my best option is. Some users are unable to access
the system. Previously I had a trace file with  Deadlock detected , but
that session was killed.
SELECT * FROM V$LOCK WHERE block0 or lmode=6
/

ADDR   KADDR   SID  TYID1ID2  LMODE
REQUEST  CTIME  BLOCK
     -  --  -  -  -
-  -  -
037DFE74  037DFE84  3 RT  1  0
6 01464073  0

Any quick  advice is appreciated.
Best,
Sergey
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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-30 Thread Babich , Sergey
. Look to them for longer posts with
more explanation. 

Good Luck!

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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-30 Thread Babich , Sergey

Thanks  a lot. That's what a lack of knowledge does...
Regards,
Dummy

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Subject:RE: Session_wait

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Babich , Sergey wrote:

 However, I made the following entry into init.ora file: Event=
 10046 trace name errorstack level 12 and it rebooted over the
 weekend. Then I got a call from my boss on Monday morning (I was
 home sick) letting me know the system had come to a crawl and was
 producing a trace file every minute or so. Eventually, after some
 speculations, I told him to rem out that entry and reboot. That
 resolved the issue, but left me puzzled.

Oh, boy, I couldn't understand who would tell you to do that on a
production system, so I looked back in the archives and found this
exchange:

Sergey writes:

 Since I didn't expect that to happen, I had just SQL trace turned on
 for that particular session. Do you suggest entering event=10046
 trace name errorstack level 12 into init.ora?

Henry writes:

 Couldn't hurt. Also why not do some deltas of your session
 statistics (before and after snapshots)

I wish I had been paying more attention when this exchange was
happening, as I would have said something.  It can and does hurt, and
you should never set such an event system wide.  Furthermore, the
event syntax makes no sense.

I don't know where you got the syntax for the event, but it is really
wrong.  What you are essentially asking for is for every process to
dump a full errorstack (call stack trace, argument/register address
dump, cursor dump, heap dump and PGA dump), every time a process
starts up (same as setting 'immediate trace name errorstack...').
Furthermore, this event does not produce a 10046 trace.  It just gives
you an errorstack.

The correct syntax for a 10046 trace is:

10046 trace name context forever, level level

This should probably not be set instance-wide in the init.ora in a
production system.  It uses large amounts of resources.  Oracle
Support has from time to time tried to convince me to set this event
instance-wide, but they are mistaken and misguided.  It should be set
in the session you want to trace, either using 'alter session set
events,' 'dbms_system.set_ev(),' or 'oradebug event...'

The correct syntax for an errorstack is:

[immediate|errno] trace name errorstack, level level

This can be set safely at the instance (init.ora) level if you have it
dump on error.  If you have it dump on setting the event, as you did,
ever server process will have to do this dump when it starts, bringing
even a moderately utilized system to its knees.

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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-30 Thread Babich , Sergey
84233
SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client   342
buffer is not pinned count 73513922

I see some updates (or inserts) and heavy reads...at first glance, 
though, you don't appear to be I/O throttled but likely have inefficiencies
in buffer cache. Pin some small tables? Reexamine access paths for
fts, even if on small tables (generally defined to be around
5% in blocks of buffer cache size?)and consider seeking out
and destroying  nested loops joins in favor of hash joins. There's
more CPU, but less buffer cache splashing arounddon't forget to
review init.ora settings for hash, buffer pools, and query planning. 
(...be happy to do a flyover of those as well, if you like.) 

That's about all i can get in a one minute glance, but there are alot of
people on the list who'll see more. Look to them for longer posts with
more explanation. 

Good Luck!

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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-29 Thread Babich , Sergey
 table scans), why are they present?

Perform a trace and TKPROF it. If you post the output, we could help
further. My feeling is that 'Database' or 'Instance' level tuning via init
parameters isn't going to get you much mileage. However, SQL tuning
certainly will!

Have a nice weekend, all!

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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-25 Thread Babich , Sergey

Sergey, please run this and post values. Just curious. 

select 
name, value 
from 
v$sesstat vs, v$statname sn 
where 
vs.statistic#=sn.statistic# and 
value is NOT NULL and 
value0 and 
sid=11;


hth, 

- Ross

p.s. shadow process - your client connection's 'footprint' in the os. 
if a local host connect, look for LOCAL=YES. If not, look for
LOCAL=NO.  Sort out all not in your instance name. 




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Well, now it's finished, but the timing is terrible... I should've queried
v$lock. RAID had a lot of activity while that was going on. File #10 is a
data datafile. I am not sure what is meant by shadow process, sorry. I
guess we'll repeat this tomorrow. 
Thank you, guys, I really appreciate your help.
Best regards,
Sergey

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well, then it's an entirely different kettle of fish. Jeremiah is on track.

don't suppose you can query v$lock where sid=11 or block0 or lmode=6
while
this is going on, can you?

and...in the OSwhat is going on w/disk?  and with the shadow process?

and, lastly, what is file# 10? Probably a data datafile...



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Thanks for your  input, but P2 was not changing  as  u can c from the last
one I caught:
SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -  
--  -    --  -    -
--  ---
   11  40019  db file sequential readfile#  10  000A
block# 221571  00036183  blocks  1  0001 -1
1594  WAITED SHORT TIME
After that the SQL changed
Regards,
Sergey Babich
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Subject:RE: Session_wait

it was reading blocks into SGA buffers. No big deal. As the 
wait time went up, so likely were the values of P2 changing. 

A longish read by sid 11.

shrug

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Hi, listers,
One of the sessions seems to be a problem:
SELECT * FROM V$SESSION_WAIT WHERE SID=NUM
/
Output:
SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -  
--  -    --  -    -
--  ---
   11  40019  db file sequential readfile#  10  000A
block# 221571  00036183  blocks  1  0001 -1
335  WAITED SHORT TIME

Then wait_time was 689, then 749 and higher and higher (the rest of the
output being the same).
Any su

ggestions are appreciated.
Regards,
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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-25 Thread Babich , Sergey
 WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -  
--  -    --  -    -
--  ---
   11  40019  db file sequential readfile#  10  000A
block# 221571  00036183  blocks  1  0001 -1
335  WAITED SHORT TIME

Then wait_time was 689, then 749 and higher and higher (the rest of the
output being the same).
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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-25 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, Ross,
This has been running for about 4 hours now. I got an SQL trace file, and
looked at the execution plans. So here's the deal. There's an interesting
join condition ...where A.col1=B.col1.. However, A has a few hundred
distinct values in that column, none of them being NULL, and B, which has a
few hundred thousand rows, has ALL NULLs in the corresponding column, and
that column is not indexed, too. That's the query where it sits for a couple
of hours. Guess what the optimizer is doing (8i)? I think internal effects
are secondary in this scenario. It is the production (including the
database) designed by the company named DELTEK, so nobody can change the
code. Anyway, I reported my findings...
Thank you very much for your help, it's always appreciated.
Best,
Sergey

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This is a busy little beaver...how long you say this runs?

opened cursors cumulative  1072
session logical reads  77233609
db block gets   2642119
consistent gets74591490
physical reads   148822
db block changes3005410
consistent changes  141
no work - consistent read gets 72058049
table scans (short tables)   210918
table scans (long tables)36
table scan rows gotten798264962
table scan blocks gotten   71788386
table fetch by rowid1074164
leaf node splits   4018
execute count 74445
bytes sent via SQL*Net to client  59650
bytes received via SQL*Net from client84233
SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client   342
buffer is not pinned count 73513922

I see some updates (or inserts) and heavy reads...at first glance, 
though, you don't appear to be I/O throttled but likely have inefficiencies
in buffer cache. Pin some small tables? Reexamine access paths for
fts, even if on small tables (generally defined to be around
5% in blocks of buffer cache size?)and consider seeking out
and destroying  nested loops joins in favor of hash joins. There's
more CPU, but less buffer cache splashing arounddon't forget to
review init.ora settings for hash, buffer pools, and query planning. 
(...be happy to do a flyover of those as well, if you like.) 

That's about all i can get in a one minute glance, but there are alot of
people on the list who'll see more. Look to them for longer posts with
more explanation. 

Good Luck!

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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-25 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, Cherie,
Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, I already did, and analyzed the table,
too. But, logically, will it do any good given that one of the columns in
join condition has  NULLs only, the other being everything but NULL?
Anyway, I'll test it again. Thanks for your reply.
Best  have a great weekend.
Sergey


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Sergey,

Have you considered adding an index to that queried column in table B?
Many third-party vendors allow the DBA to add indexes even when they
won't allow them to alter the code.

Something to consider.

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


 

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Hi, Ross,
This has been running for about 4 hours now. I got an SQL trace file, and
looked at the execution plans. So here's the deal. There's an interesting
join condition ...where A.col1=B.col1.. However, A has a few hundred
distinct values in that column, none of them being NULL, and B, which has a
few hundred thousand rows, has ALL NULLs in the corresponding column, and
that column is not indexed, too. That's the query where it sits for a
couple
of hours. Guess what the optimizer is doing (8i)? I think internal effects
are secondary in this scenario. It is the production (including the
database) designed by the company named DELTEK, so nobody can change the
code. Anyway, I reported my findings...
Thank you very much for your help, it's always appreciated.
Best,
Sergey

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Sent:   Friday, January 25, 2002 12:56 PM
To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

This is a busy little beaver...how long you say this runs?

opened cursors cumulative  1072
session logical reads  77233609
db block gets   2642119
consistent gets74591490
physical reads   148822
db block changes3005410
consistent changes  141
no work - consistent read gets 72058049
table scans (short tables)   210918
table scans (long tables)36
table scan rows gotten798264962
table scan blocks gotten   71788386
table fetch by rowid1074164
leaf node splits   4018
execute count 74445
bytes sent via SQL*Net to client  59650
bytes received via SQL*Net from client84233
SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client   342
buffer is not pinned count 73513922

I see some updates (or inserts) and heavy reads...at first glance,
though, you don't appear to be I/O throttled but likely have inefficiencies
in buffer cache. Pin some small tables? Reexamine access paths for
fts, even if on small tables (generally defined to be around
5% in blocks of buffer cache size?)and consider seeking out
and destroying  nested loops joins in favor of hash joins. There's
more CPU, but less buffer cache splashing arounddon't forget to
review init.ora settings for hash, buffer pools, and query planning.
(...be happy to do a flyover of those as well, if you like.)

That's about all i can get in a one minute glance, but there are alot of
people on the list who'll see more. Look to them for longer posts with
more explanation.

Good Luck!

- Ross
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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-24 Thread Babich , Sergey

Obviously, that was Scott's sYster... And she had to change after installing
Oracle on some dirty boxes...

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So who was SYS, and why on earth did s/he name his/her pet
CHANGE_ON_INSTALL???

:-)

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The name I was given is Scott Gossett.  My team leader and one 
of our team members took the advanced seminars last year, and 
their instructor was Scott, and he admitted his notoriety.

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there are several instructors named Scott how do you know which one
it is or even if it's one of the instructors?


--- Vergara, Michael (TEM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok...it's true.  Take the Oracle Technical seminars and you too may
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 waiting
 for Scott at the Rainbow Bridge, but Scott is still there (at least
 he was last year...you know how Oracle's been lately).
 
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 I was once told with certainty from an Oracle instructor that Scott
 was
 an early developer, and Tiger was his cat.  But without actually
 meeting
 Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many
 urban
 legends surrounding this.  
 
 Jim
 
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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-24 Thread Babich , Sergey
 to run the query, but later on we'll run the OLTP again, and then
I'll do it and post the output. Currently I'm analyzing the trace file which
is about 130M (did not tkprof it yet), and that size does NOT sound healthy
to me. 
Best regards,
Sergey Babich

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Sergey, please run this and post values. Just curious. 

select 
name, value 
from 
v$sesstat vs, v$statname sn 
where 
vs.statistic#=sn.statistic# and 
value is NOT NULL and 
value0 and 
sid=11;


hth, 

- Ross

p.s. shadow process - your client connection's 'footprint' in the os. 
if a local host connect, look for LOCAL=YES. If not, look for
LOCAL=NO.  Sort out all not in your instance name. 




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Well, now it's finished, but the timing is terrible... I should've queried
v$lock. RAID had a lot of activity while that was going on. File #10 is a
data datafile. I am not sure what is meant by shadow process, sorry. I
guess we'll repeat this tomorrow. 
Thank you, guys, I really appreciate your help.
Best regards,
Sergey

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well, then it's an entirely different kettle of fish. Jeremiah is on track.

don't suppose you can query v$lock where sid=11 or block0 or lmode=6
while
this is going on, can you?

and...in the OSwhat is going on w/disk?  and with the shadow process?

and, lastly, what is file# 10? Probably a data datafile...



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Thanks for your  input, but P2 was not changing  as  u can c from the last
one I caught:
SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -  
--  -    --  -    -
--  ---
   11  40019  db file sequential readfile#  10  000A
block# 221571  00036183  blocks  1  0001 -1
1594  WAITED SHORT TIME
After that the SQL changed
Regards,
Sergey Babich
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it was reading blocks into SGA buffers. No big deal. As the 
wait time went up, so likely were the values of P2 changing. 

A longish read by sid 11.

shrug

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Hi, listers,
One of the sessions seems to be a problem:
SELECT * FROM V$SESSION_WAIT WHERE SID=NUM
/
Output:
SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -  
--  -    --  -    -
--  ---
   11  40019  db file sequential readfile#  10  000A
block# 221571  00036183  blocks  1  0001 -1
335  WAITED SHORT TIME

Then wait_time was 689, then 749 and higher and higher (the rest of the
output being the same).
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ggestions are appreciated.
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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-23 Thread Babich , Sergey
 and higher and higher (the rest of the
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RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

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Hi, dear listers,
My boss has decided to switch production to a UNIX box and now he's asking
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The DB itself is about 40G on RAID (currently on Windoze 2k). Any advice is
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RE: Connect as sysdba on 9i

2002-01-22 Thread Babich , Sergey
Title: Connect as sysdba on 9i



That 
exactly connects you as SYS which u can check with SHOW USER
Just 
my $.02.
Regards,
Sergey 
Babich

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  Connect as sysdba on 9i
  Try: 
  sqlplus "/ as sysdba"
  I suspect the / 
  indicates current OS user and if you belong to the SYSDBA or SYSOPER groups 
  then you will be connected. SYS is probably not a member of these 
  groups.
  I haven't tested 
  this.
  
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9i
Hi! 
I have a question concerning "connect sys as sydba" on 
9i. 
When I open sqlplus and connect as sysdba (I'm logged in as 
the Unix oracle user): 
sqlplus "sys as sysdba" 
Oracle asks for a password. Even if I type in the wrong 
password, I am connected to Oracle. So does Oracle just use the OS 
authentication (like connect internal did on 8i)?
But why is Oracle asking for a password in the first place 
then? Any ideas? 
This is 9.0.1 on Sun Solaris. 
Thanks, Helmut 



RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Babich , Sergey

Thank you so very much. 
Best regards,
Sergey

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Sergey,

I asked my SA to add his 2 cents, guess he's not inclined.  Anyway, I've
been on HP for the last 10 years, coming from VMS,  I love it.  VERY
stable,
easy to use, although I don't do the admin any longer it was easy with SAM
even
when it was a character based tool.  Rman/OmniBack integration is well
documented in the OmniBack manuals  works as advertised.  HP support is
pretty
darn good as well, especially in the middle of the night when the system
won't
boot.  I've had HP support tech's remotely logged in to the system helping
get
it back online.  Also if you have a problem that is not in the area of the
tech
you call they normally conference in the needed assistance.  Problems can be
resolved as fast as they occur.  We also don't use disk arrays from HP, but
then
HP  EMC really like each other.  If you want an inexpensive disk
alternative
look into NetAppliance.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA

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Thank you, Paul, I'll forward it to my boss... Anyone else to add to it?
Thank you very much,
Sergey Babich


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Stay with HP. It's a hell of a lot more reliable, and does not require
anywhere near the # of patches, and its patches work far more often that
Sun's. I've done 5 years with each, and there's no question that HP is
superior.

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
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Our shop is switching from HP to Sun.  No one can tell me why.  There must
be a cost savings somewhere.


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The DB itself is about 40G on RAID (currently on Windoze 2k). Any advice is
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RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Babich , Sergey

I want to thank everyone for the input.
Best regards,
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RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Babich , Sergey

Thanks, Dennis, my boss is thinking HP already. As far as flavor of UNIX,
that wouldn't matter much. I'll have to learn it from scratch anyway.
Best regards,
Sergey

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Sergey - Sorry for the confusion. Our ERP system is Lawson and I somehow had
a brain fart and thought you were on that email list. If you management is
just thinking about Unix, then the last thing you want to do is scare them
off with an argument about which Unix. Start every reply with of course all
these are excellent choices and it will be no doubt difficult to choose
between these really great systems. It sounds as if your application won't
be very dependent on the flavor of Unix, so then you don't need to be so
concerned about the long-term trends. Boxes are easier to replace than
in-house developed software, it's just that software doesn't show up in the
financial reports.
Dennis Williams
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Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi, Dennis,
Just got back to work and found your message. It's a shame, but  I don't
know what Lawson is. Well, I used to be a chemical engineer in Soviet Union
and didn't know Oracle existed... Anyway, I appreciate your reply. As far as
that box, it's supposed to be a box for our main production. We have a
pretty simple financial application, but huge OLTP and A LOT of reports.
There's no programming except for my short scripts which I create to extend
the app functionality (it is VERY old). The company is very lax on
investments. Nonetheless, they're contemplating a switch to UNIX, and that I
call a major move! Let's see what happens. Thanks for your reply again.
Best regards,
Sergey

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Sergey - One factor you may want to consider is the timeframe of your
decision. If it is just a decision for your Lawson box, then that isn't so
critical. It is pretty easy to move Lawson from one system to another.
Last fall we were looking at making a decision for all our systems.
We are on Compaq Tru64, and that doesn't have a long future ahead of it. The
META Group advice was that only three operating systems can be considered to
have a stable future:
1. MS W2K
2. Linux
3. Solaris
Most of the other Unix vendors are facing the next generation of computer
chip architecture. I don't believe that HP is investing in the next
generation itself, but will be switching to the new Intel 64-bit chips.
Based on that advice, we chose Solaris because W2K and Linux are not
up to the same standards as Solaris today. To repeat, we are looking at a
lot of programming beyond Lawson, so our decision was based on more than
simply purchasing the next box. We will have our Lawson system on Tru64 for
several more years.
Dennis Williams
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Thank you, Paul, I'll forward it to my boss... Anyone else to add to it?
Thank you very much,
Sergey Babich


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Stay with HP. It's a hell of a lot more reliable, and does not require
anywhere near the # of patches, and its patches work far more often that
Sun's. I've done 5 years with each, and there's no question that HP is
superior.

Thank you,

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Our shop is switching from HP to Sun.  No one can tell me why.  There must
be a cost savings somewhere.


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the softest way). I've heard people say HP is better, but need more than
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HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

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Hi, dear listers,
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me for a recommendation between HP and SUN. I am a newbee to UNIX (to put it
the softest way). I've heard people say HP is better, but need more than
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RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

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Thank you, Paul, I'll forward it to my boss... Anyone else to add to it?
Thank you very much,
Sergey Babich


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Stay with HP. It's a hell of a lot more reliable, and does not require
anywhere near the # of patches, and its patches work far more often that
Sun's. I've done 5 years with each, and there's no question that HP is
superior.

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
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Our shop is switching from HP to Sun.  No one can tell me why.  There must
be a cost savings somewhere.


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RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Babich , Sergey

Thanks, it is very important to me
Regards,
Serge

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Using both HP 11.0 and Solaris 2.8, I have a preference for HP.  Just little
toolset things like SAM for a GUI SysAdmin, top and GlancePlus, although
GlancePlus, a system monitor, I guess I would consider a huge advantage over
what Sun offers.

As far as the hardware, I guess I don't have a huge preference either way.
But if you do go with HP -- DO NOT GET AN AutoRAID!  Biggest performance
mistake we've made, IMO.  Super slow writes.

Just my $.02...

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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the softest way). I've heard people say HP is better, but need more than
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HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Babich , Sergey



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Subject:HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

Hi, dear listers,
My boss has decided to switch production to a UNIX box and now he's asking
me for a recommendation between HP and SUN. I am a newbee to UNIX (to put it
the softest way). I've heard people say HP is better, but need more than
that...
The DB itself is about 40G on RAID (currently on Windoze 2k). Any advice is
greatly appreciated.
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RE: ORA-01555: snapshot too old: rollback segment number...

2002-01-15 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, Viktor,
Have any long transactions been running parallel to the export when it
happened?
And do you specify the parameter CONSISTENT=Y for the export?
Regards,,
Sergey Babich

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Subject:ORA-01555: snapshot too old: rollback segment number...

Hi all,

Last nignt when we were expring data for one of our
databases, this error ocurred:

ORA-01555: snapshot too old: rollback segment number
3 with name R02) offset=(0).

Now, we were able to once again export and load data
this morning. And there was no error.

What is the best aproach to try to eliminate this
error in the future?

Any suggestions apreciated.

Thanks

Regards



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RE: HOW TO MAKE DELETION FAST

2002-01-11 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, Seema,
I f the issue is still current,  deletions taking too much time may be
caused by not indexed foreign keys. If the child table does not have an
index on a column which references the parent one, to delete even a single
row Oracle performs full table scan which locks the table, too. It is a
serious issue when tables are huge. So I'd check for unindexed foreign keys
first.
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Hi
I want to delete milliuns of row from one table.that table have 2 
constraints and some indexes.What to do for fast deletion.When ever I run 
deletion it takes time too.
Thanks
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RE: SQL for top 100 values

2002-01-10 Thread Babich , Sergey

Correction : SELECT * FROM (SELECT DISTINCT VALUES FROM TABLE ORDER BY
VALUES DESC) WHERE ROWNUM  101;


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SELECT * FROM (SELECT VALUES FROM TABLE ORDER BY VALUES) ROWNUM  101;


 

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hi SQL wizards,

Can any body help me with the tjis SQL. I need a SQL records with top 100
values of a table ( not rownum  101 ).

Thanks
Deen


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RE: SQL for top 100 values

2002-01-10 Thread Babich , Sergey

Don't use any aliases (x in your case) and try again
Regards

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I tried to run it in Oracle 7.3.4, it comes up with a syntax error

Here is the SQL
select x.fein,x.open_bal
from (select sf_get_fein(employer_id) fein,
nvl(total_open_balance_amt,0) open_bal
  from employer
  order by open_bal desc ) x
where rownum  101

Here is what I get

SQLWKS select x.fein,x.open_bal
 2 from (select sf_get_fein(employer_id) fein,
nvl(total_open_balance_amt,0) open_bal
 3   from employer
 4   order by open_bal desc ) x
 5 where rownum  101
 6
  order by open_bal desc ) x
  *
ORA-00907: missing right parenthesis

Is it because I am on a lower version


Thanks
Deen

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Deen Dayal wrote:

 hi SQL wizards,

 Can any body help me with the tjis SQL. I need a SQL records with top 100
values of a table ( not rownum  101 ).

 Thanks
 Deen


rownum  101 is OK if you nest your query, ORDER BY included, as an
in-line view,
ie

select x.val
from (select val
  from my_table
  order by val desc) x
where rownum  101
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RE: SQL for top 100 values

2002-01-10 Thread Babich , Sergey

You may be right, that's the version issue


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Subject:RE: SQL for top 100 values

I tried to run it in Oracle 7.3.4, it comes up with a syntax error

Here is the SQL
select x.fein,x.open_bal
from (select sf_get_fein(employer_id) fein,
nvl(total_open_balance_amt,0) open_bal
  from employer
  order by open_bal desc ) x
where rownum  101

Here is what I get

SQLWKS select x.fein,x.open_bal
 2 from (select sf_get_fein(employer_id) fein,
nvl(total_open_balance_amt,0) open_bal
 3   from employer
 4   order by open_bal desc ) x
 5 where rownum  101
 6
  order by open_bal desc ) x
  *
ORA-00907: missing right parenthesis

Is it because I am on a lower version


Thanks
Deen

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Deen Dayal wrote:

 hi SQL wizards,

 Can any body help me with the tjis SQL. I need a SQL records with top 100
values of a table ( not rownum  101 ).

 Thanks
 Deen


rownum  101 is OK if you nest your query, ORDER BY included, as an
in-line view,
ie

select x.val
from (select val
  from my_table
  order by val desc) x
where rownum  101
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RE: Clone a database

2002-01-09 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, Beatriz,
If you want to create an identical copy of your production (that's my
understanding), it is a lot easier to export it (FULL=Y) and then import the
dump file into your new database. Let me know if you need more info.
Regards,
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Hello list,
I new to clone a database for changing between test to production.
The new database is going to be in a different host.
I have the copy obtained through the enterprise manager (I suppose it´s
a cold backup).
Which are the steps I should follow?
A lot of thanks

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RE: Clone a database

2002-01-09 Thread Babich , Sergey

With all my respect, this is not always the case
Best regards,
Serge

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easier perhaps only if you have the exact same disk layouts and space
available.

and certainly MUCH more time to create -- an import takes anywhere from
2-4 times as long as the export did.

--- Babich , Sergey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 If you want to create an identical copy of your production (that's my
 understanding), it is a lot easier to export it (FULL=Y) and then
 import the
 dump file into your new database. Let me know if you need more info.
 Regards,
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 I new to clone a database for changing between test to production.
 The new database is going to be in a different host.
 I have the copy obtained through the enterprise manager (I suppose
 it´s
 a cold backup).
 Which are the steps I should follow?
 A lot of thanks
 
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RE: Clone a database

2002-01-09 Thread Babich , Sergey

Thanks

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RE: CHAINED ROWS

2002-01-08 Thread Babich , Sergey




It 
depends on the number. If it's a real high number on the tables that are 
actively involved in OLTP (or just queried a lot, for that matter), chained (or 
migrated) rows will definitely slow down the processing. In this case you can 
either use EXP/IMP on the tables or create a copy of the table (CTAS), truncate 
the table and INSERT INTO ...(...) SELECT (*)...;
Regards,
Sergey 
Babich,
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DBA

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  CHAINED ROWS
  I have seen that There are some number of 
  chained rows in several tables of a schema in my database . 
  What is it done in such a situation ? 
  
  Thank you 
  Bunyamin


RE: Convert ACESS to Oracle

2002-01-08 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi,
 I would think the general idea could be converting all the tables into flat
files and then loading them into your Oracle pre-built database ( you have
to create  schemas, of course) using SQLLDR. If you have any integrity
constraints, I think you will have to manually create them in Oracle. Try  a
search on GOOGLE.com. Very helpful.
Regards,
Sergey Babich

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Group,
Can anyone please give me links, steps, document or step by step procedures
to convert an Access database to an Oracle database? Also, please include
any 'Gottcha's'.

Thanks

Al Rusnak

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RE: Convert ACESS to Oracle

2002-01-08 Thread Babich , Sergey

http://www.bunkerhill.com/Mig2Ora.html

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RE: Using Import/Export thru DBA studio requires OMS

2002-01-07 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, colleagues,
Could not agree more with Mr. Sherman. DBA STUDIO  is NOT for that. Real
pros use EXP/IMP 
Regards,
Sergey E. Babich,
Oracle DBA

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Sent:   Monday, January 07, 2002 4:11 PM
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Subject:RE: Using Import/Export thru DBA studio requires OMS

Hello all,

If you take my advise, you will never, ever use DBA studio for exports or
imports. To do it the correct DBA-approved-and-time-honored way is to do
command line execution, either through an interactive session (if you are
new to imp/exp), or use of full command line, or use of parfiles. Exports
and imports are way too important to use DBA studio on. Be sure to use log
files to review possible imp/exp errors.

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
DBA
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fax-  781-278-8341 (office)
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-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:46 PM
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- Original Message -



 Platform is Win Nt Oracle 8.1.6.  When I try to use import/export
utilities
 in DBA studio I get a message stating I
 must access thru Oracle Management Server. I have search and cannot find a
 step by step on how to set up OMS
 so I can use import/export in DBA studios.  Can someone help or point me
to
 some links that will provide what
 I need.


I wouldn't recommend messing with OMS just for export/import.

Why don't u use the command line utilities?

Anyways, the docs for OMS version u need are at
http://technet.oracle.com/docs/products/oem/doc_library/3packs/InstallGuide/
html/toc.htm and the distribution is available at
http://technet.oracle.com/software/products/oem/content.html


hth,

Marin



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