Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Kwek Li Gek

While we are on the topic of oracle licensing, can someone help to clear up some 
doubts on named user licensing that I have?

We have an existing 5-named user license for a small oracle 8i (8.1.5) database we 
have, but right now, it seems to be restricting the number of user sessions to 5 
sessions even though the sessions are all using the same userid.  

Is this how the named user license is supposed to work? I was under the impression 
that the named user license was for restricting the number of users which you can 
create for a database and not the number of sessions.  Or am I missing out on some 
settings/parameters to be defined?  

Regards,
Leo

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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:00:30 -0800
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 I suggest you talk to your Oracle rep before getting started.
 
 'Concurrent' licensing is no longer a valid licensing model for Oracle.
 
 They sell by named user or per CPU.  Their criteria for making you
 use the CPU licensing is rather broad. 
 
 Just went through a licensing audit here.  Lots o fun, let me tell you.
 
 While on the subject, does anyone have a good app/spreadsheet
 or template of some kind for tracking Oracle license use?
 
 It needs to track EE and Std versions, named and CPU licenses,
 servers, databases on the servers, users on the databases.
 
 I've cobbled my own stuff together from bits of string and baling wire,
 but I'm getting tired of messing with modifying SQL everytime I want
 a different view of the data, or to see if I can squeeze another app
 in without licensing more users.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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 We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using
 Oracle.  This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing.
 We have about 100 instances to monitor. 
 
 Has anyone done this?  Any ideas on what Concurrent users might mean to
 the majority of people? 
 
 We have both Oracle 7 and Oracle 8.
 
 Ron Smith
 DBA
 Kerr-McGee Corp
 
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Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Kwek Li Gek

While we are on the topic of oracle licensing, can someone help to clear up some 
doubts on named user licensing that I have?

We have an existing 5-named user license for a small oracle 8i (8.1.5) database we 
have, but right now, it seems to be restricting the number of user sessions to 5 
sessions even though the sessions are all using the same userid.  

Is this how the named user license is supposed to work? I was under the impression 
that the named user license was for restricting the number of users which you can 
create for a database and not the number of sessions.  Or am I missing out on some 
settings/parameters to be defined?  

Regards,
Leo

-Original Message-
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:00:30 -0800
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I suggest you talk to your Oracle rep before getting started.
 
 'Concurrent' licensing is no longer a valid licensing model for Oracle.
 
 They sell by named user or per CPU.  Their criteria for making you
 use the CPU licensing is rather broad. 
 
 Just went through a licensing audit here.  Lots o fun, let me tell you.
 
 While on the subject, does anyone have a good app/spreadsheet
 or template of some kind for tracking Oracle license use?
 
 It needs to track EE and Std versions, named and CPU licenses,
 servers, databases on the servers, users on the databases.
 
 I've cobbled my own stuff together from bits of string and baling wire,
 but I'm getting tired of messing with modifying SQL everytime I want
 a different view of the data, or to see if I can squeeze another app
 in without licensing more users.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 Smith, Ron L. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 02/19/02 11:14 AM
 Please respond to ORACLE-L
 
  
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc: 
 Subject:Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
 
 
 We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using
 Oracle.  This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing.
 We have about 100 instances to monitor. 
 
 Has anyone done this?  Any ideas on what Concurrent users might mean to
 the majority of people? 
 
 We have both Oracle 7 and Oracle 8.
 
 Ron Smith
 DBA
 Kerr-McGee Corp
 
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