RE: ADMIN PLZ REPLY - FW: !!Please Read - Oracle-L moving!!

2004-01-23 Thread Venu Gopal

A BIG thanks to Jared & Bruce for all your efforts guys. And as bruce
says "See you in a minute on the new list".

Thank you,
Venu!

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Jared and I have been talking recently about this.  This list has just
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ADMIN PLZ REPLY - FW: !!Please Read - Oracle-L moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Venu Gopal

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Dear Oracle-L subscriber,

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SQL tuning...

2003-12-18 Thread Venu Gopal








Can anyone tell me whats wrong
with the explain plan below… this update is running for quite long time….
Even without a single full-table access…

 

Thank you in advance!

 

 

UPDATE STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=83
Card=4893 Bytes=327831)
UPDATE OF CCM_DEBIT_TBL
SEQUENCE OF STAFFWARE_CASEID_S
FILTER
TABLE ACCESS (BY GLOBAL INDEX ROWID) OF CCM_DEBIT_TBL (Cost=83 Card=4893
Bytes=327831)
INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF IDX_DEBIT_DUE_DATE (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=26 Card=4893)
INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF IDX_PLAN_DEBIT_CISDEBITDEAD (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=3 Card=1
Bytes=26)
INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF IDX_PLAN_DEBIT_CISDEBITDEAD (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=3 Card=1
Bytes=28)
TABLE ACCESS (BY GLOBAL INDEX ROWID) OF CCM_ACCOUNT_TBL (Cost=1 Card=1 Bytes=9)
INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF PK_ACCOUNT (UNIQUE) (Cost=2 Card=1)






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RE: How to drop a datafile ?

2003-10-29 Thread Venu Gopal

Well, you an actually move all your objects from this datafile into a
different datafile (read it as different TS) and then offline drop the
datafile.
This will ensure that users don't get the error 'xxx.dbf file is
currently inacessible' message.

Cheers!
Venu

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Thanx Sinardy & Rachel.

so,the only way is as what Sinardy said.
is that so ? 

Regards,
Jp.

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>The doc is right. You cannot drop a single datafile from a tablespace.



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RE: dbms_job issue.

2003-09-18 Thread Venu Gopal









Re-submit the job…that should work…
It has a long theory…!!

 

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Subject: dbms_job issue.

 



Hello List, I am running
into weird dbms_job issue. I have a dbms_job to collect perfstat every 1 hour ,
job was running fine for last 8-9 months without any issue. For last 3 days job
is stopping every night around 2 AM. I am not seeing any trace file, any
logs in alert file. Any idea what is cuasing this. Below is the output from
dba_jobs. We are on 9202 AIX 5L.





 





 





  
JOB LAST_DATE 
NEXT_DATE 
THIS_DATE  B  
FAILURES TOTAL_TIME
-- -- -- -- -
-- --
   45 18-SEP-03 02:01:02 18-SEP-03
03:00:00   
N  0   
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RE: Online Document for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3

2003-08-22 Thread Venu Gopal
Title: Message









If you have reached a point where you
could press the Install/DeInstall button, it means
that you don’t have any problem with your Java installation/settings. Try
to troubleshoot in other areas.

Also, update the Forum with your success story
once you are done.

 

~Venu

 

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Subject: RE: Online Document for
Windows XP Home edition Severity 3

 



Try copying the contents
of the CD to a directory on your hard drive.  Search for all instances of
symcjit.dll in that directory and below and rename them to
symcjit.dll.old.  Then run setup from the directory on your hard drive.





 





Gudmundur





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Xing
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Subject: Online Document for
Windows XP Home edition Severity 3



Hi all,





 





I have new notebook, I want to
install Oracle Doc 8.1.7, but Oracle fail to run when I
click Install/Deinstall button





 





Some said XP home edition cannot
install Oracle, is this because Sun demand Ms to remove the JVM? Can
someone help me please..





 





Thanks





 





Sinardy










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RE: Change based recovery

2003-08-14 Thread Venu Gopal









Fermin,

 

I don’t want to de-motivate you, but
I really doubt whether your backup strategy really works. The command that you
have mentioned below will NOT do a complete recovery as it’s a cold
backup. 

 

As for your questions:

1) You can recover your entire database in
either case (Cold or Hot), If you have your archive logs.

    Difference
being, You have recreate your control file if it’s a cold DB backup and
recover the DB using ‘BACKUP CONTROL FILE’ option.

2) Lets look at it the other way; you do NOT
need any downtime for Hot backups while you need
downtime for Cold backups. Downtime could be very expensive depending on the type
of database.

Secondly, you can take a
hot backup very frequently as it does not involve any downtime. Recent backup
means less recovery is required and less time to bring up the database.

 

Let me know if you need anymore info.

 

Cheers!

Venu

 

 

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Subject: RE: Change based recovery

 



 





    I've been reading your messages with much interest. I have some
experience with database administration and I have done many tests, but I've
not tried what I am going to expose in this message, maybe you can help. We do
cold backups on a regular basis (every weekend) then just backup the archive
log every day, then delete them every time a new cold backup is done. We have
tested it and if all database files (parameters file, datafiles, control files)
except for one control file and the archived logs were lost we could recover
the entire database issuing the following commands after restoring all missing
files and mounting the database:





 





    SET AUTORECOVERY ON





    RECOVER DATABASE





    ALTER DATABASE OPEN





 





    My questions are: 





 





    1 -
Could a complete restore be done even if we lost ALL control files? can we
recover the entire database from a cold backup provided we have all archived
logs until the failure time?





    2 - If the answer is yes, what is the advantage of doing on-line
backups of datafiles and control files?





 





    Thanks for your answers, I always learn so much from this list!!





 





Fermin.





-Mensaje original-
De: Hand, Michael T
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: viernes, 08 de agosto
de 2003 18:10
Para: Multiple recipients of list
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Asunto: RE: Change based recovery



Lisa,





The 3rd option (besides
shuting down source database and using a controlfile trace) is to "alter
database backup controlfile to 'filename'; ", use this file, then proceed
with the recovery as Venu suggests.  I've used this method on a hot backup
to roll the database forward.  Also, don't bother restoring the redo logs
as you will be overwriting / recreating them with the "alter database open
resetlogs".  One more thing I noticed.  Your until change number
looks to me like an archive sequence number rather than the SCN it needs to
be.  Hope this helps.





 





Mike Hand





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Subject: Change based recovery



Hi Guys and Gals, 





We are currently doing some testing
to enable us to move our production database from one unix box to another.





We are running a 7.3.4 db in
archivelog mode.  The approach that management want to use is to restore
the database on the new server from a backup and then roll it forward using the
archived redo logs.





 





I have a full cold back up from last
Friday. I have restored the datafiles, controlfiles and redo logs onto our test
server from the backup tape, and then ftp'd the archived logs over.





 





I then do - 





SVRMGR> startup mount
ORACLE instance started.
Total System Global Area 258304260 bytes
Fixed
Size  
45092 bytes
Variable
Size   
126925024 bytes
Database
Buffers
131072000 bytes
Redo
Buffers   
262144 bytes
Database mounted.
SVRMGR> recover database until change 10349;
Media recovery complete. 






 












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RE: Change based recovery

2003-08-14 Thread Venu Gopal









Fermin,

 

Yes, It can be done!! Just with your cold backup and your archive
logs.

 

Basics:

1)   
Get this straight - A cold backup does not require any kind of
recovery. When you restore a cold backup your DB will be old but will NOT
require any recovery.

2)   
If you want to bring a old database to
current time, you have to apply the archive logs. In case of a cold backup you
cannot (read till the end) do it as your control files do not recognize newer
archive logs generated after the backup was taken.

The Work around is to re-create the control file using the ‘create
control file’ script (see below) and then recover the database using the
command ‘RECOVER DATABASE USING BACKUP CONTROL FILE’, This command
will ask you for the archive logs; on supplying the archive logs, the database
will be recovered further.

3)   
In case of a hot backup the backup is in-consistent. So after
restoring a backup it WILL ask for recovery which will happen from the archive
logs. This is same as the above but there is no Downtime involved in hot
backups.

 

Creating control
file:

The script to
create the control file can be generated using the following command:

SQL> ALTER DATABASE BACKUP CONTROL FILE TO TRACE;

This will create
a .trc file in the UDUMP directory of the database. You
will have to edit it before running to create the control file. Browse thru Metalink
for more info on this.

 

Hope this helps!
Cheers!

Venu

 

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Subject: RE: Change based recovery

 



 





    Well I
am quite de-motivated actually!! but at least it is good to know I was
(partially) wrong and that I will feel safer after reading your comments,
thanks!





 





    I am really in doubt now, but I remember when we were testing we
did recover all datafiles (the ones that are stated in the v$datafile table)
from a cold backup except control files and redolog files; we were
able to restore the whole database with the commands I wrote down in my first
message. If I am still wrong, will you please be kind enough to tell me which
are the exact commands needed to recover the whole database from a cold
backup if I have no online backups and I lose everything except for the
archived logs? can it really be done?    





 





    Thank you so much!





 





Fermin.





-Mensaje original-
De: Venu Gopal
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: lunes, 11 de agosto de
2003 13:44
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: RE: Change based recovery

Fermin,

 

I don’t want to
de-motivate you, but I really doubt whether your backup strategy really works.
The command that you have mentioned below will NOT do a complete recovery as
it’s a cold backup. 

 

As for your questions:

1) You can recover your
entire database in either case (Cold or Hot), If you have your archive logs.

    Difference
being, You have recreate your control file if it’s a cold DB backup and
recover the DB using ‘BACKUP CONTROL FILE’ option.

2) Lets look at it the
other way; you do NOT need any downtime for Hot backups while you need downtime
for Cold backups. Downtime could be very expensive depending on the type of
database.

Secondly, you can take a hot backup very frequently as it does not
involve any downtime. Recent backup means less recovery is required and less
time to bring up the database.

 

Let me know if you need
anymore info.

 

Cheers!

Venu

 

 

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Subject: RE: Change based recovery

 



 





    I've been reading your messages with much interest. I have some
experience with database administration and I have done many tests, but I've
not tried what I am going to expose in this message, maybe you can help. We do
cold backups on a regular basis (every weekend) then just backup the archive
log every day, then delete them every time a new cold backup is done. We have
tested it and if all database files (parameters file, datafiles, control files)
except for one control file and the archived logs were lost we could recover
the entire database issuing the following commands after restoring all missing
files and mounting the database:





 





    SET AUTORECOVERY ON





    RECOVER DATABASE





    ALTER DATABASE OPEN





 





    My questions are: 





 





   
1 - Could a complete restore be done even if we lost ALL control files? can we
recover the entire database from a cold backup provided we have all archived
logs until the failure time?





    2 - If the answer is yes, what is the advantage of doing on-line
backups of datafiles and control files?





 





    Thanks for your answers, I always learn so much f

RE: Change based recovery

2003-08-07 Thread Venu Gopal









Hi,

 

When you are restoring from a cold backup
you don’t have to recover and your database will be old. 

 

If you want to bring it to current time
then recreate the control file and recover it using ‘RECOVER DATABASE
USING BACKUP CONTROLFILE UNTIL CANCEL’; this will ask you for archive
logs and then you have to supply them.

 

Create the control file from a trace file
generated on the running database using the following command:

‘ALTER DATABASE BACKUP CONTROLFILE
TO TRACE’;

 

Cheers!

Venu

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Lisa
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003
5:51 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: Change based recovery

 



Hi Guys and Gals, 





We are currently doing some testing
to enable us to move our production database from one unix box to another.





We are running a 7.3.4 db in
archivelog mode.  The approach that management want to use is to restore
the database on the new server from a backup and then roll it forward using the
archived redo logs.





 





I have a full cold back up from last
Friday. I have restored the datafiles, controlfiles and redo logs onto our test
server from the backup tape, and then ftp'd the archived logs over.





 





I then do - 





SVRMGR> startup mount
ORACLE instance started.
Total System Global Area 258304260 bytes
Fixed
Size  
45092 bytes
Variable Size   
126925024 bytes
Database
Buffers
131072000 bytes
Redo
Buffers   
262144 bytes
Database mounted.
SVRMGR> recover database until change 10349;
Media recovery complete. 





 





I would have expected it to display
the names of the logs, but  it doesn't, and when I check the alert
log it shows 'No Media Recovery required'. 





 





 Where am I going wrong? I
can't understand why it won't apply the archived logs. (Too hot today and brain
not working properly!)





 





TIA.



Lisa Dobson 
Database Analyst 
Home Group Ltd 



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RE: 9i - Dynamic SGA - SGA_MAX_SIZE

2003-08-01 Thread Venu Gopal

Stephen,

That's the way it's meant to work.
This is how Oracle guarantees that you can grow upto the value of
SGA_MAX_SIZE. Look at the case below:

DAY 1: you have your sga_max set to 100m but you are currently using
only 50m of it.
DAY 2: you want to use all 100m and you try to increase the sga size,
but some other app has used rest of the physical memory and there is no
sufficient memory available, at this stage oracle has to error out
saying 'insufficient memory', but in reality it does not!!

In reality: On DAY 1, Oracle tries to occupy all 100m in the memory so
that it doesn't have any issues in future... this way you have 100m
reserved for oracle, use it whenever you want to use it.

Hope this helps you...

~Venu


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Hi,

does anybody have any experience with setting the SGA_MAX_SIZE in 9i.

I assumed the purpose of this parameter was that SGA would grow as
requested to that limit.

Example:
You could configure your SGA to be 80M
Set the SGA_MAX_SIZE to be 250M.

I would have expected oracle to acquire 80M of memory from the UNIX
machine.

In fact using ipcs you can see  that oracle will always acquire the
value
of SGA_MAX_SIZE.

It acquires the extra space in the Variable Size of the SGA
 

 

 

 

 

 Sga_max_size=75m.

 

 Show sga:

 Total System Global Area 77041728 bytes

 Fixed Size 733248 bytes

 Variable Size 41943040 bytes

 Database Buffers 33554432 bytes

 Redo Buffers 811008 bytes

 

 

 sga_max_size=110M and keep everything  else the same.

 

 show sga:

 Total System Global Area 114790680 bytes

 Fixed Size 733464 bytes

 Variable Size 79691776 bytes

 Database Buffers 33554432 bytes

 Redo Buffers 811008 bytes

 Database mounted.

 Database opened.

 

 




I have raised a lengthy call on Metalink and the consultants are
convinced
this is normal behaviour and what you would expect.

Do people agree with the metalink consultants?

Maybe my expectations were to high but I thought a dynamic sga would
mean I
could change the amount of memory acquired by the UNIX box.

All opinions welcome. I am on tru64 platform -  9.2.0.3.0

Thanks, Stephen



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Full table scan

2003-02-04 Thread Venu Gopal Andem
List,

I have the following scnario:

I'm doing a select from 2 tables joining them using a primary key- ref
key on the tables and the explain plan is showing 2 full table scans...
Even after analyzing the tables and the Optimizer mode is set to CHOOSE.

SELECT a.col1, b.col2
  FROM table1 a, table2 b
 WHERE a.col1 = b.col1

Any comments...

Thanks in advance,
Venu

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RE: password

2002-12-20 Thread Venu Gopal Andem
Title: Message



BOB, 
its the same on my machine... 8.1.6 on NT
-Venu

  
  -Original Message-From: Bob Metelsky 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 
  3:56 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: password
   
   created a user test identified by test on 2 separate 
  systems in db's with different names The password 
  value was the same Can someone verify if it is the 
  same on their system Create user test identified by 
  test; select password from dba_users where username = 
  'TEST'; PASSWORD -- 7A0F2B316C212D67 
  
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on 
my db
 
LTRACK1 SQL> select password from dba_users where username = 
'TEST'; 
PASSWORD--7A0F2B316C212D67
 
bob 
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RE: Stored procedure memory problem

2002-12-18 Thread Venu Gopal Andem
Thanks a lot guys!
Now I have some understanding about how oracle handles cursors.
Mark: can you please point me to some document or site which could put
some more light on what you said below. 
Few hundreds of thousands was NOT typo... 10 - 50

-Venu


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It's important to realize that Oracle does not materialize all the rows
to be returned from  a cursor in memory.  If you do 'select * from
one_million_row_table;', at no time are all one million rows going to be
in the PGA.  However, there are cases where some or all of the data DOES
have to be materialized, such as in a sort.  This is why the
sort_area_size and sort_area_retained_size parameters are important. 
They govern how much memory a single process can consume.  Sorts larger
than that threshold will automatically write to disk.  If you're on 9i,
you may wish to investigate pga_aggregate_target instead.

You said "few hundreds of thousands"??  Is that a typo??  (Perhaps you
meant "hundreds or thousands"??)  Something else to consider is a shared
server (aka MTS) configuration for large numbers of users in an on-line
type environment, where the users have a large amount of think time. 
Shared server is a bad idea for batch type users, but could be a memory
saver for an environment where there are thousands of users connected,
but with long think times, the concurrency is limited.

Hope that helps get you pointed in the right direction.

-Mark

On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 22:53, Venu Gopal Andem wrote:
> A small question to all gurus on the list...
> 
> I have a stored procedure (SP) which runs at specific intervals. It 
> fetches a list of user names and few (2 columns) of their details into

> a cursor and processes them one by one in a cursor FOR loop.
> 
> Now my question is, Is there a chance of the SP running out of memory 
> when the number of users increases (may be a few hundreds of 
> thousands). If yes how to estimate the maximum number of user names my

> cursor can handle? Is there any calculation for this? How to overcome 
> this problem? Is there anything else that has to be taken into account

> when doing this?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> Venu G.
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Stored procedure memory problem

2002-12-17 Thread Venu Gopal Andem
A small question to all gurus on the list...

I have a stored procedure (SP) which runs at specific intervals. It
fetches a list of user names and few (2 columns) of their details into a
cursor and processes them one by one in a cursor FOR loop.

Now my question is, Is there a chance of the SP running out of memory
when the number of users increases (may be a few hundreds of thousands).
If yes how to estimate the maximum number of user names my cursor can
handle? Is there any calculation for this? How to overcome this problem?
Is there anything else that has to be taken into account when doing
this?

Thanks in advance!
Venu G.

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RE: ORA-01031 error

2002-12-13 Thread Venu Gopal Andem
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Try 
connecting as some other user and see.
You 
may connect SYS as SYSDBA ONLY from 9i onwards, keep that in mind! 

Also 
check whether your client supports connecting as SYSDBA, I'm not sure it 
does!
 
Rgds,
Venu 
G.
OCP 8i 
& 9i

  
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  all, I tried to connect to a 
  remote database running Oracle 9.2.0.1.0. from my Oracle Client (SQL*Plus) which is of version 8.0.5.0.0 as 
  SYS. I get an error message :- 
  ORA-01031 : Insufficient Privileges 
  I tried using Password file as 
  well, but in vain... Could someone 
  help me in this regard. Thanks in 
  advance.. Regards Jai 
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RE: Installing 8.1.7.3 along with 8.1.6.0

2002-12-11 Thread Venu Gopal Andem
Thanks a lot for the info.. Couple of clarifications req...
Will the existing 8.1.6 DB still exist after migration or will it be
changed to 8.1.7.4?
At the time of installation will I have to shutdown the existing DBs??

Thanks,
Venu G.

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You can install 8.1.7 on a machine that has 8.1.6.
During the install you can just migrate the database
to 8.1.7 and save all the hassle.

The migration process show you a screen with the 8.1.6 databases
installed on the machine and allow you to choose which one you will
migrate.

This way you do not have to export/import/notify users etc.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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Hi,
We have 8.1.6.0 installed on a NT server. There are 2
databases(development of size 120MB when FULL export is done) already
running on the system. Now our requirement is to install 8.1.7.4 and
bring one of the DB into this environment.

My plan of approach is as follows, any feedback, comments are most
welcome:
1) Shutdown all the existing databases
2) Install 8.1.7.3 from cd's and apply 8.1.7.4 patch to bring it to ver
8.1.7.4
3) Bring the 8.1.6 databases UP
4) Create a new database in 8.1.7.4 environment
5) Export the 8.1.6 database and import it into 8.1.7.4's database (I
decided to do it with export as the DB was not very large)
6) Update the devolopers with the new DB's SID and etc. details
7) Drop the 8.1.6 database once devolopers are satisfied with the
8.1.7.4 database

Questions:
1) Are there any ramifications of installing 8.1.7.4 engine on the same
system where 8.1.6 is already present? Obviously in a different home.
2) Database migration in this scenario is done using EXP/IMP. Is this
ok? Why? Any better alternatives?
3) Do I have to really shutdown the databases and other oracle services
before starting the 8.1.7.4 installation?

Thanks,
Venu G.


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Installing 8.1.7.3 along with 8.1.6.0

2002-12-10 Thread Venu Gopal Andem
Hi,
We have 8.1.6.0 installed on a NT server. There are 2
databases(development of size 120MB when FULL export is done) already
running on the system. Now our requirement is to install 8.1.7.4 and
bring one of the DB into this environment.

My plan of approach is as follows, any feedback, comments are most
welcome:
1) Shutdown all the existing databases
2) Install 8.1.7.3 from cd's and apply 8.1.7.4 patch to bring it to ver
8.1.7.4
3) Bring the 8.1.6 databases UP
4) Create a new database in 8.1.7.4 environment
5) Export the 8.1.6 database and import it into 8.1.7.4's database (I
decided to do it with export as the DB was not very large)
6) Update the devolopers with the new DB's SID and etc. details
7) Drop the 8.1.6 database once devolopers are satisfied with the
8.1.7.4 database

Questions:
1) Are there any ramifications of installing 8.1.7.4 engine on the same
system where 8.1.6 is already present? Obviously in a different home.
2) Database migration in this scenario is done using EXP/IMP. Is this
ok? Why? Any better alternatives?
3) Do I have to really shutdown the databases and other oracle services
before starting the 8.1.7.4 installation?

Thanks,
Venu G.

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