RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-21 Thread STEVE OLLIG
i recalled seeing a clip of "plane traveling at 900 knots just off the
water."  well, maybe not exactly 900 knots - but fast.  and here it is:  
http://www.eng.vt.edu/fluids/msc/gallery/conden/f14.mpeg
(1.35MB)
isn't google great!

a still image with explanation for the bandwidth impaired - 
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap010221.html

and to get us back on topic - anybody ever see a query go that fast over
water?  :)

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Most fighters are equipped with a 20-mm  gun.  They need something to use
once they have fired all their AAM's.  The Mach 2.? rating is for a
completely clean bird devoid of anything which would cause drag.  You
mentioned 900 mph; I would guess the plan lands at a speed of somewhere
between 125 and 150 knots and that  "dirtied" would have no problem flying
at 200 knots.  No problem to get a few shots off.  One also doesn't need an
antiship weapon to take out a yacht.  A radar guided AIM would do
considerable damage.

A plane traveling at 900 knots just off the water is mesmerizing.  It
appears to have an aurora surrounding it.  The concussion of the sonic boom
would certainly get the yachtsmen's attention as well. 

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> 
> Mladen, have you ever seen video of what a Coast Guard .50cal can do 
> to a fishing boat?  I don't know what armament Ellison's interceptor 
> could carry, but I suspect the mounts would support something that 
> could easily turn a racing yacht into toothpicks.
> 

No, I haven't seen that video, but I imagine that the problem would be 
to slow the plane sufficiently to have at least a second to aim. There is a
plane moving with a speed of 900MP/H and it has to hit a boat with a speed
of 20 MP/H. How much time will the pilot have for aiming? MiG-25 is not a 
dive bomber.
Coast guard, on the other hand, is using boats to catch boats and then
.50cal becomes a killer.
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RE: Re[2]: Americas Cup

2003-01-21 Thread Jared . Still
Ahem

OT list, please?

Jared






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Ian - Good points. Three additional points:
   - The cannon on modern fighters fires VERY fast, since engagements are 
so
short.
   - Aircraft can perform a shallow dive, which can keep a relatively
stationary target in the sights for several seconds.
   - The FAA takes a dim view of private aircraft having real guns and 
live
ammunition. Especially after 9/11 :-(

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
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Most fighters are equipped with a 20-mm  gun.  They need something to use
once they have fired all their AAM's.  The Mach 2.? rating is for a
completely clean bird devoid of anything which would cause drag.  You
mentioned 900 mph; I would guess the plan lands at a speed of somewhere
between 125 and 150 knots and that  "dirtied" would have no problem flying
at 200 knots.  No problem to get a few shots off.  One also doesn't need 
an
antiship weapon to take out a yacht.  A radar guided AIM would do
considerable damage.

A plane traveling at 900 knots just off the water is mesmerizing.  It
appears to have an aurora surrounding it.  The concussion of the sonic 
boom
would certainly get the yachtsmen's attention as well. 

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> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Mladen, have you ever seen video of what a Coast Guard .50cal can do 
> to a fishing boat?  I don't know what armament Ellison's interceptor 
> could carry, but I suspect the mounts would support something that 
> could easily turn a racing yacht into toothpicks.
> 

No, I haven't seen that video, but I imagine that the problem would be 
to slow the plane sufficiently to have at least a second to aim. There is 
a
plane moving with a speed of 900MP/H and it has to hit a boat with a speed
of 20 MP/H. How much time will the pilot have for aiming? MiG-25 is not a 
dive bomber.
Coast guard, on the other hand, is using boats to catch boats and then
.50cal becomes a killer.
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RE: Re[2]: Americas Cup

2003-01-21 Thread Jeremy Bainbridge-Smith
Title: RE: Re[2]: Americas Cup





Hi Team


My 2 cents worth.  As a Kiwi I can tell you that there is a high level of public interest in the America's cup here in New Zealand.  It is after all a major sporting event.  However to many people, sail boat racing is as interesting as watching paint dry.  Now if Larry had flown his Mig over the Hauraki Gulf and start shooting up Alinghi, well then, I would expect a whole new level of interest in the event and perhaps the Louis Vuitton Cup final may not have been so one sided.

Cheers
Jeremy


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Ian - Good points. Three additional points:
   - The cannon on modern fighters fires VERY fast, since engagements are so
short.
   - Aircraft can perform a shallow dive, which can keep a relatively
stationary target in the sights for several seconds.
   - The FAA takes a dim view of private aircraft having real guns and live
ammunition. Especially after 9/11 :-(


Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Most fighters are equipped with a 20-mm  gun.  They need something to use
once they have fired all their AAM's.  The Mach 2.? rating is for a
completely clean bird devoid of anything which would cause drag.  You
mentioned 900 mph; I would guess the plan lands at a speed of somewhere
between 125 and 150 knots and that  "dirtied" would have no problem flying
at 200 knots.  No problem to get a few shots off.  One also doesn't need an
antiship weapon to take out a yacht.  A radar guided AIM would do
considerable damage.


A plane traveling at 900 knots just off the water is mesmerizing.  It
appears to have an aurora surrounding it.  The concussion of the sonic boom
would certainly get the yachtsmen's attention as well. 


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> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Mladen, have you ever seen video of what a Coast Guard .50cal can do 
> to a fishing boat?  I don't know what armament Ellison's interceptor 
> could carry, but I suspect the mounts would support something that 
> could easily turn a racing yacht into toothpicks.
> 


No, I haven't seen that video, but I imagine that the problem would be 
to slow the plane sufficiently to have at least a second to aim. There is a
plane moving with a speed of 900MP/H and it has to hit a boat with a speed
of 20 MP/H. How much time will the pilot have for aiming? MiG-25 is not a 
dive bomber.
Coast guard, on the other hand, is using boats to catch boats and then
.50cal becomes a killer.
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RE: Re[2]: Americas Cup

2003-01-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ian - Good points. Three additional points:
   - The cannon on modern fighters fires VERY fast, since engagements are so
short.
   - Aircraft can perform a shallow dive, which can keep a relatively
stationary target in the sights for several seconds.
   - The FAA takes a dim view of private aircraft having real guns and live
ammunition. Especially after 9/11 :-(

Dennis Williams
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Most fighters are equipped with a 20-mm  gun.  They need something to use
once they have fired all their AAM's.  The Mach 2.? rating is for a
completely clean bird devoid of anything which would cause drag.  You
mentioned 900 mph; I would guess the plan lands at a speed of somewhere
between 125 and 150 knots and that  "dirtied" would have no problem flying
at 200 knots.  No problem to get a few shots off.  One also doesn't need an
antiship weapon to take out a yacht.  A radar guided AIM would do
considerable damage.

A plane traveling at 900 knots just off the water is mesmerizing.  It
appears to have an aurora surrounding it.  The concussion of the sonic boom
would certainly get the yachtsmen's attention as well. 

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> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Mladen, have you ever seen video of what a Coast Guard .50cal can do 
> to a fishing boat?  I don't know what armament Ellison's interceptor 
> could carry, but I suspect the mounts would support something that 
> could easily turn a racing yacht into toothpicks.
> 

No, I haven't seen that video, but I imagine that the problem would be 
to slow the plane sufficiently to have at least a second to aim. There is a
plane moving with a speed of 900MP/H and it has to hit a boat with a speed
of 20 MP/H. How much time will the pilot have for aiming? MiG-25 is not a 
dive bomber.
Coast guard, on the other hand, is using boats to catch boats and then
.50cal becomes a killer.
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RE: Re[2]: Americas Cup

2003-01-21 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
Most fighters are equipped with a 20-mm  gun.  They need something to use once they 
have fired all their AAM's.  The Mach 2.? rating is for a completely clean bird devoid 
of anything which would cause drag.  You mentioned 900 mph; I would guess the plan 
lands at a speed of somewhere between 125 and 150 knots and that  "dirtied" would have 
no problem flying  at 200 knots.  No problem to get a few shots off.  One also doesn't 
need an antiship weapon to take out a yacht.  A radar guided AIM would do considerable 
damage.

A plane traveling at 900 knots just off the water is mesmerizing.  It appears to have 
an aurora surrounding it.  The concussion of the sonic boom would certainly get the 
yachtsmen's attention as well. 

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> 
> 
> Mladen, have you ever seen video of what a Coast Guard .50cal can do 
> to a fishing boat?  I don't know what armament Ellison's interceptor 
> could carry, but I suspect the mounts would support something that 
> could easily turn a racing yacht into toothpicks.
> 

No, I haven't seen that video, but I imagine that the problem would be 
to slow the plane sufficiently to have at least a second to aim. There is a plane 
moving with a speed of 900MP/H and it has to hit a boat with a speed of 20 MP/H. How 
much time will the pilot have for aiming? MiG-25 is not a 
dive bomber.
Coast guard, on the other hand, is using boats to catch boats and then .50cal becomes 
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RE: Re[2]: Americas Cup

2003-01-21 Thread Gogala, Mladen


> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Mladen, have you ever seen video of what a Coast Guard .50cal can do
> to a fishing boat?  I don't know what armament Ellison's interceptor
> could carry, but I suspect the mounts would support something that
> could easily turn a racing yacht into toothpicks.
> 

No, I haven't seen that video, but I imagine that the problem would be 
to slow the plane sufficiently to have at least a second to aim. There is
a plane moving with a speed of 900MP/H and it has to hit a boat with a speed
of 20 MP/H. How much time will the pilot have for aiming? MiG-25 is not a 
dive bomber.
Coast guard, on the other hand, is using boats to catch boats and then
.50cal
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RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-21 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Title: RE: Americas Cup



Maybe 
someone on board had a GPS scrambler...
 
Pat.

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  Americas Cup
  Well, Larry Ellison allegedly has MiG 25 which is an 
  interceptor airplane
  armed to blow other airplanes out of the sky. It 
  doesn't have any weapon
  system to sink a ship. He should purchase 
  few F-16 and A-10 planes. 
  Those can be used against ships.  Speaking of 
  the race, allegedly those GPS 
  navigation systems they use in the modern yachts are 
  running SQL Server. 
  Larry couldn't have won with a software 
  like that. 
  
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    Americas Cup
Well, I guess now he can use the boat for target practice 
when he's flying around in his fighter jet... 
--Walt Weaver   Bozeman, 
Montana 
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Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become 
the challenger to Team New Zealand for the Americas 
Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
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RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Sony kristanto
Is it such kind of war or foot ball game ?

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> Well, Larry Ellison allegedly has MiG 25 which is an interceptor airplane
> armed to blow other airplanes out of the sky. It doesn't have any weapon
> system to sink a ship. He should purchase few F-16 and A-10 planes. 
> Those can be used against ships.  Speaking of the race, allegedly those
> GPS 
> navigation systems they use in the modern yachts are running SQL Server. 
> Larry couldn't have won with a software like that. 
> 
>   -Original Message-
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>   
>   
> 
>   Well, I guess now he can use the boat for target practice when he's
> flying around in his fighter jet... 
> 
>   --Walt Weaver 
> Bozeman, Montana 
> 
>   -Original Message- 
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> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] 
>   Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM 
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>   Subject: Americas Cup 
> 
> 
>   Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become the
> challenger 
>   to Team New Zealand for the Americas Cup.  Unfortunately did not
> make the 
>   grade... 
> 
>   
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Re[2]: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Robert Eskridge
Mladen, have you ever seen video of what a Coast Guard .50cal can do
to a fishing boat?  I don't know what armament Ellison's interceptor
could carry, but I suspect the mounts would support something that
could easily turn a racing yacht into toothpicks.


G> Well, Larry Ellison allegedly has MiG 25 which is an interceptor airplane
G> armed to blow other airplanes out of the sky. It doesn't have any weapon
G> system to sink a ship. He should purchase few F-16 and A-10 planes. 
G> Those can be used against ships.  Speaking of the race, allegedly those GPS 
G> navigation systems they use in the modern yachts are running SQL Server. 
G> Larry couldn't have won with a software like that. 

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RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: Americas Cup






There's a difference?  ;-)

Just think: US Postal Service has been catching heck for spending about $3 million on the Postal team in the Tour de France and Lance Armstrong has been winning. Uncle Larry spends $95 million to come in second place. Of course USPS is a government monopoly and has been losing money.

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From:   KENNETH JANUSZ [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Was this Oracle money or Larry's private funds?

 

Ken Janusz, CPIM




RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: RE: Americas Cup



I 
thought Lutz owns an L-39. I was told this by a local pilot who just bought an 
L-39.
 
There 
are MIG 15's, 17's, and 21's in the U.S. but I wasn't aware of any 
Foxbats.
 
--Walt

  -Original Message-From: Igor Neyman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:55 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
  Americas Cup
  There are lots of MIG25 in this country.
  GM's VP Lutz is flying one.
   
  Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Weaver, 
Walt 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:24 
PM
    Subject: RE: Americas Cup

Did he finally get it? Last I heard U.S. Customs wouldn't let him 
bring it in the country.

  -Original Message-From: Gogala, Mladen 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:50 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Americas Cup
  Well, Larry Ellison allegedly has MiG 25 which is 
  an interceptor airplane
  armed to blow other airplanes out of the sky. It 
  doesn't have any weapon
  system to sink a ship. He should purchase 
  few F-16 and A-10 planes. 
  Those can be used against ships.  Speaking 
  of the race, allegedly those GPS 
  navigation systems they use in the modern yachts 
  are running SQL Server. 
  Larry couldn't have won with a 
  software like that. 
  
-Original Message-From: Weaver, Walt 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 
1:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
    ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Americas Cup
Well, I guess now he can use the boat for target 
practice when he's flying around in his fighter jet... 
--Walt Weaver   Bozeman, 
Montana 
-Original Message- From: 
Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Subject: Americas Cup 
Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to 
become the challenger to Team New Zealand for 
the Americas Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
.html 
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RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Title: RE: Americas Cup



Now 
here is an idea for resolving differences between him and 
Gates:
Let's 
give Larry a P-51 Mustang, a zero or a ME-110 to Bill Gates 
and
let 
them sort things out. No chutes in the planes.

  -Original Message-From: Weaver, Walt 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:25 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Americas Cup
  Did 
  he finally get it? Last I heard U.S. Customs wouldn't let him bring it in the 
  country.
  
-Original Message-From: Gogala, Mladen 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:50 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
    Americas Cup
Well, Larry Ellison allegedly has MiG 25 which is 
an interceptor airplane
armed to blow other airplanes out of the sky. It 
doesn't have any weapon
system to sink a ship. He should purchase 
few F-16 and A-10 planes. 
Those can be used against ships.  Speaking of 
the race, allegedly those GPS 
navigation systems they use in the modern yachts 
are running SQL Server. 
Larry couldn't have won with a software 
like that. 

  -Original Message-From: Weaver, Walt 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 
  1:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Americas Cup
  Well, I guess now he can use the boat for target practice 
  when he's flying around in his fighter jet... 
  --Walt Weaver   Bozeman, 
  Montana 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Americas Cup 
  Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to 
  become the challenger to Team New Zealand for the 
  Americas Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
  .html 
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Re: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Igor Neyman
Title: RE: Americas Cup



There are lots of MIG25 in this country.
GM's VP Lutz is flying one.
 
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Weaver, 
  Walt 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:24 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Americas Cup
  
  Did 
  he finally get it? Last I heard U.S. Customs wouldn't let him bring it in the 
  country.
  
-Original Message-From: Gogala, Mladen 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:50 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
    Americas Cup
Well, Larry Ellison allegedly has MiG 25 which is 
an interceptor airplane
armed to blow other airplanes out of the sky. It 
doesn't have any weapon
system to sink a ship. He should purchase 
few F-16 and A-10 planes. 
Those can be used against ships.  Speaking of 
the race, allegedly those GPS 
navigation systems they use in the modern yachts 
are running SQL Server. 
Larry couldn't have won with a software 
like that. 

  -Original Message-From: Weaver, Walt 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 
  1:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Americas Cup
  Well, I guess now he can use the boat for target practice 
  when he's flying around in his fighter jet... 
  --Walt Weaver   Bozeman, 
  Montana 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Americas Cup 
  Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to 
  become the challenger to Team New Zealand for the 
  Americas Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
  .html 
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RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: RE: Americas Cup



Did he 
finally get it? Last I heard U.S. Customs wouldn't let him bring it in the 
country.

  -Original Message-From: Gogala, Mladen 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:50 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Americas Cup
  Well, Larry Ellison allegedly has MiG 25 which is an 
  interceptor airplane
  armed to blow other airplanes out of the sky. It 
  doesn't have any weapon
  system to sink a ship. He should purchase 
  few F-16 and A-10 planes. 
  Those can be used against ships.  Speaking of 
  the race, allegedly those GPS 
  navigation systems they use in the modern yachts are 
  running SQL Server. 
  Larry couldn't have won with a software 
  like that. 
  
-Original Message-From: Weaver, Walt 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:05 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
    Americas Cup
Well, I guess now he can use the boat for target practice 
when he's flying around in his fighter jet... 
--Walt Weaver   Bozeman, 
Montana 
-Original Message- From: 
Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Americas Cup 
Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become 
the challenger to Team New Zealand for the Americas 
Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
.html 
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RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: Americas Cup



I 
understand an Oracle database was running onboad the yacht but... 

it 
must not have been tuned well... 
or 
maybe they were using BCHR tuning methods...
or 
maybe there wasn't a good DBA onboard...
or 
maybe the DBA was Larry and he was dependent on using 
OEM...
or 
maybe it wasn't unbreakable and there were some ora-00600's.
 
Actually I watched one of the races on ESPN and the commentators said 1) 
the skipper made a few tactical errors in desperation because 2) the boat did 
not perform as well under higher winds. (>15)  Maybe the bid wind was 
sitting on board. ;-)  If there had been less wind it would have probably 
won.  FWIW.
 

  -Original Message-From: Gogala, Mladen 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:50 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Americas Cup
  Well, Larry Ellison allegedly has MiG 25 which is an 
  interceptor airplane
  armed to blow other airplanes out of the sky. It 
  doesn't have any weapon
  system to sink a ship. He should purchase 
  few F-16 and A-10 planes. 
  Those can be used against ships.  Speaking of 
  the race, allegedly those GPS 
  navigation systems they use in the modern yachts are 
  running SQL Server. 
  Larry couldn't have won with a software 
  like that. 
  
-Original Message-From: Weaver, Walt 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:05 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
Americas Cup
Well, I guess now he can use the boat for target practice 
when he's flying around in his fighter jet... 
--Walt Weaver   Bozeman, 
Montana 
-Original Message- From: 
Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Americas Cup 
Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become 
the challenger to Team New Zealand for the Americas 
Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
.html 
Ken   


RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: Americas Cup



Well 
he almost DIED the last time he did this so it IS an improvement. 


  -Original Message-From: Igor Neyman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:49 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
  Americas Cup
  are you saying that if Larry wins, Oracle stock would go up 
  ? -:)
   
  Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Orr, Steve 

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:04 
PM
Subject: RE: Americas Cup

Yeah and my Oracle stock is down 6% so there's obviously a 
significant connection between company performance and extravagant CEO 
recreational obsessions. 
-Original Message- From: 
Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Americas Cup 
Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become 
the challenger to Team New Zealand for the Americas 
    Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
.html 
Ken 


RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Title: RE: Americas Cup



Well, 
Larry Ellison allegedly has MiG 25 which is an interceptor 
airplane
armed 
to blow other airplanes out of the sky. It doesn't have any 
weapon
system 
to sink a ship. He should purchase few F-16 and A-10 planes. 

Those 
can be used against ships.  Speaking of the race, allegedly those GPS 

navigation systems they use in the modern yachts are 
running SQL Server. 
Larry 
couldn't have won with a software like that. 


  -Original Message-From: Weaver, Walt 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:05 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Americas Cup
  Well, I guess now he can use the boat for target practice when 
  he's flying around in his fighter jet... 
  --Walt Weaver   Bozeman, 
  Montana 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Americas Cup 
  Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become 
  the challenger to Team New Zealand for the Americas 
  Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
  .html 
  Ken _ Clinical and Regulatory Informatics - Groton/New London 
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Re: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
Title: RE: Americas Cup



Was this Oracle money or Larry's private funds?
 
Ken Janusz, CPIM

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Orr, Steve 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:04 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Americas Cup
  
  Yeah and my Oracle stock is down 6% so there's obviously a 
  significant connection between company performance and extravagant CEO 
  recreational obsessions. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Americas Cup 
  Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become 
  the challenger to Team New Zealand for the Americas 
  Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
  .html 
  Ken 


RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: RE: Americas Cup





Well, I guess now he can use the boat for target practice when he's flying around in his fighter jet...


--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana


-Original Message-
From: Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Americas Cup



Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become the challenger
to Team New Zealand for the Americas Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the
grade...


http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00
.html


Ken
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Re: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Igor Neyman
Title: RE: Americas Cup



are you saying that if Larry wins, Oracle stock would go up ? 
-:)
 
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Orr, Steve 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:04 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Americas Cup
  
  Yeah and my Oracle stock is down 6% so there's obviously a 
  significant connection between company performance and extravagant CEO 
  recreational obsessions. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Americas Cup 
  Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become 
  the challenger to Team New Zealand for the Americas 
  Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the grade... 
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00 
  .html 
  Ken 


RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Wong, Bing
That $95mill should be the profit sharing for Oracler employees...  What a
waste!

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Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become the challenger
to Team New Zealand for the Americas Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the
grade...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00
.html

Ken
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RE: Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: Americas Cup





Yeah and my Oracle stock is down 6% so there's obviously a significant connection between company performance and extravagant CEO recreational obsessions. 


-Original Message-
From: Fowler, Kenneth R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Americas Cup


Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become the challenger
to Team New Zealand for the Americas Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the
grade...


http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00
.html


Ken





Americas Cup

2003-01-20 Thread Fowler, Kenneth R
Larry Ellison has spent 95 million (US) attempting to become the challenger
to Team New Zealand for the Americas Cup.  Unfortunately did not make the
grade...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/auckland/0,2106,2204857a6469,00
.html

Ken
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