bind variables in VB using OO4O

2004-01-21 Thread John Dunn
Does anyone have examples of how to use bind variables in VB when using
OO4O?

John


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RE: bind variables in VB using OO4O

2004-01-21 Thread Prem Khanna J
Hi John , 

i have mailed a doc . have a look at it .

Regards,
Prem.

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Re: Cold Fusion and Bind Variables

2004-01-13 Thread Scott Behrens


Jared,
 Try this link. It still worked for me this morning.

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/server_archive/articles/cfqueryparam_oracle_databases.html 
Scott
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Dear List, We have a developer here that is pretty good with the web stuff, but his strong suit is not databases, or at least not Oracle. He develops primarily in Cold Fusion, which I know little about. I'm trying to teach him the difference between literal and bind variables, and the importance of knowing the difference. While it is easy to demonstrate this in PL/SQL or Perl, I have no idea how to do so in CF. A few minutes of googling didn't really turn up anything useful. I'm looking for some examples of using bind variables in SQL as used in Cold Fusion that connects to Oracle 8i. If you have one, the virtual beer is on me. :) Jared 


RE: Cold Fusion and Bind Variables

2004-01-13 Thread Vordos, Suzy




Hi 
Jared,

Look at 
QFQUERYPARM:

Usage

 The CFQUERYPARAM is designed to do the following 
things:

 Allows the use of SQL bind 
parameters. Allows long text 
fields to be updated from an SQL 
statement. Improves 
performance.

 The ColdFusion ODBC, DB2, Informix, Oracle 7 and 
Oracle 8 driverssupport SQL bind parameters. 
However, at present, the ColdFusion Sybase 11 driver 
and Sybase native driver do not support SQL bind 
parameters.

 If a database does not support bind parameters, 
ColdFusion still performs validation and substitutes 
the validated parameter value back into the string. 
If validation fails, an error message is returned. 

Suzy

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  suit is not databases, or at least not 
  Oracle. He develops primarily in 
  Cold Fusion, which I know little about. I'm trying to teach him the difference between literal and bind 
  variables, and the importance of 
  knowing the difference. While it is easy to demonstrate this 
  in PL/SQL or Perl, I have no idea how to do 
  so in CF. A few minutes of 
  googling didn't really turn up anything useful. I'm looking for some examples of using bind variables 
  in SQL as used in Cold Fusion that 
  connects to Oracle 8i. If you have one, the virtual beer is on me. :) Jared 


RE: Cold Fusion and Bind Variables

2004-01-13 Thread Jared . Still

Thanks Suzy, CFQUERYPARM is what he needs.

Jared







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Hi Jared,

Look at QFQUERYPARM:

Usage

  The CFQUERYPARAM is designed to do the following things:

Allows the use of SQL bind parameters.
Allows long text fields to be updated from an SQL statement.
Improves performance.

  The ColdFusion ODBC, DB2, Informix, Oracle 7 and Oracle 8 drivers
   support SQL bind parameters. However, at present, the ColdFusion Sybase
   11 driver and Sybase native driver do not support SQL bind
   parameters.

  If a database does not support bind parameters, ColdFusion still
   performs validation and substitutes the validated parameter value back
   into the string. If validation fails, an error message is returned. 

Suzy
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Subject: Cold Fusion and Bind Variables


Dear List, 

We have a developer here that is pretty good with the web stuff, but his strong 
suit is not databases, or at least not Oracle. 

He develops primarily in Cold Fusion, which I know little about. 

I'm trying to teach him the difference between literal and bind variables, and the 
importance of knowing the difference. While it is easy to demonstrate this 
in PL/SQL or Perl, I have no idea how to do so in CF. 

A few minutes of googling didn't really turn up anything useful. 

I'm looking for some examples of using bind variables in SQL as used 
in Cold Fusion that connects to Oracle 8i. If you have one, the virtual 
beer is on me. :) 

Jared 




Cold Fusion and Bind Variables

2004-01-12 Thread Jared . Still

Dear List,

We have a developer here that is pretty good with the web stuff, but his strong
suit is not databases, or at least not Oracle.

He develops primarily in Cold Fusion, which I know little about.

I'm trying to teach him the difference between literal and bind variables, and the
importance of knowing the difference. While it is easy to demonstrate this
in PL/SQL or Perl, I have no idea how to do so in CF.

A few minutes of googling didn't really turn up anything useful.

I'm looking for some examples of using bind variables in SQL as used
in Cold Fusion that connects to Oracle 8i. If you have one, the virtual
beer is on me. :)

Jared



Re: wait events that indicate lack of bind variables

2003-12-05 Thread Anjo Kolk
Also add the library cache load and pin events to that.

Anjo.

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 1. latch free for the shared pool latch (a shared pool latch in 9i).
 2. Indirectly, SQL*Net message from client and CPU service time
 consumption too, because not using bind variables probably means that an
 application parses more often than it needs to.
 
 
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 Which wait events are indications that your missing bind variables? 
 
 btw, if you want to implement bind variables through a c/c++ middle tier
 its best to use 'prepared statements'. correct? 
 
 bind arrays can be issued as prepared statements right? This is when you
 need to do alot of inserts from the middle tier to the database with
 just one pass to the database. 
 
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wait events that indicate lack of bind variables

2003-12-04 Thread ryan_oracle
Which wait events are indications that your missing bind variables? 

btw, if you want to implement bind variables through a c/c++ middle tier its best to 
use 'prepared statements'. correct? 

bind arrays can be issued as prepared statements right? This is when you need to do 
alot of inserts from the middle tier to the database with just one pass to the 
database. 

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Re: wait events that indicate lack of bind variables

2003-12-04 Thread Tanel Poder
latch free waits on library cache  shared pool latches.

But I'd check parse to execute ratio from v$librarycache instead. If most of
your statements close parse count and execution count, you might have a
problem.

Tanel.

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 Which wait events are indications that your missing bind variables?

 btw, if you want to implement bind variables through a c/c++ middle tier
its best to use 'prepared statements'. correct?

 bind arrays can be issued as prepared statements right? This is when you
need to do alot of inserts from the middle tier to the database with just
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RE: wait events that indicate lack of bind variables

2003-12-04 Thread Cary Millsap
1. latch free for the shared pool latch (a shared pool latch in 9i).
2. Indirectly, SQL*Net message from client and CPU service time
consumption too, because not using bind variables probably means that an
application parses more often than it needs to.


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Which wait events are indications that your missing bind variables? 

btw, if you want to implement bind variables through a c/c++ middle tier
its best to use 'prepared statements'. correct? 

bind arrays can be issued as prepared statements right? This is when you
need to do alot of inserts from the middle tier to the database with
just one pass to the database. 

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RE: Multiple parses with bind variables

2003-08-21 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Thanks for the replies.

I will also admit (sheepishly) that until today, I didn't realize that
the Misses in library cache during parse: line after each statement
in a trace file tells you how many of the parses for a statement were
hard parses.


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 The application that is running this, or the connection thinger
 (ODBC,
 JDBC,
 DBI) is parsing it twice. They often do a describe before a parse,
 which
 results in two parses for every execution.
 
  945 * 2 = 1895
 
 
 Josh
 
 
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 Why should a query such as this, with bind variables and no literals,
 be parsed so many times?  Other queries in the trace show, for
 example,
 2 parses and 16 executions.  And while I'm at it, why does is the
 parse count shown equal to the SUM of executes and fetches?
 
 SELECT BENEFICIARY_FK, BENEFICIARY_PHONE_PK, PHONE_TYPE_FK,
 PHONE_NUMBER 
 FROM BENEFICIARY_PHONE WHERE COMPANY_FK = :V1 
 AND BENEFICIARY_FK IN ( :V2)
   
 
 
 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent 
  
 
 --- --   -- -- -- -- 
 
 Parse 1890  0.21   0.17  0  0  0 
  

 Execute945  0.04   0.08  0  0  0 
  

 Fetch  945 38.48  43.24  0 620428  0
 
 
 
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Multiple parses with bind variables

2003-08-20 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Why should a query such as this, with bind variables and no literals,
be parsed so many times?  Other queries in the trace show, for example,
2 parses and 16 executions.  And while I'm at it, why does is the
parse count shown equal to the SUM of executes and fetches?

SELECT BENEFICIARY_FK, BENEFICIARY_PHONE_PK, PHONE_TYPE_FK,
PHONE_NUMBER 
FROM BENEFICIARY_PHONE WHERE COMPANY_FK = :V1 
AND BENEFICIARY_FK IN ( :V2)
  


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent   

--- --   -- -- -- --  
Parse 1890  0.21   0.17  0  0  0   
   
Execute945  0.04   0.08  0  0  0   
   
Fetch  945 38.48  43.24  0 620428  0



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RE: Multiple parses with bind variables

2003-08-20 Thread Josh Collier
The application that is running this, or the connection thinger (ODBC, JDBC,
DBI) is parsing it twice. They often do a describe before a parse, which
results in two parses for every execution.

 945 * 2 = 1895


Josh


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Why should a query such as this, with bind variables and no literals,
be parsed so many times?  Other queries in the trace show, for example,
2 parses and 16 executions.  And while I'm at it, why does is the
parse count shown equal to the SUM of executes and fetches?

SELECT BENEFICIARY_FK, BENEFICIARY_PHONE_PK, PHONE_TYPE_FK,
PHONE_NUMBER 
FROM BENEFICIARY_PHONE WHERE COMPANY_FK = :V1 
AND BENEFICIARY_FK IN ( :V2)
  


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent   

--- --   -- -- -- --  
Parse 1890  0.21   0.17  0  0  0   
   
Execute945  0.04   0.08  0  0  0   
   
Fetch  945 38.48  43.24  0 620428  0



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using bind variables for procedures/packages

2003-08-20 Thread Benny Pei
Hi,

I know how to do it for regulard query statement but I
wasn't sure how to do it with procedures and packages.

I have this procedure. e.g.

I have this procedure 
'begin 
  run_proc ('foo','blah'); 
end;
'

the procedure will be called either in a perl script.
How would I change it so that it uses bind variables?
Because it will be executed many times every hour and
every day.

thanks,

benny

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RE: using bind variables for procedures/packages

2003-08-20 Thread Cary Millsap
Consult the Descartes/Bunce Programming the Perl DBI book. See the
section about how to use '?' as a placeholder in your SQL text. You'll
end up with code that looks a little bit like this:

my $sql = begin run_proc(?, ?); end;;
my $sth = $dbh-prepare($sql, {ora_check_sql = 0});
...
# then, inside the loop that runs this thing lots of times...
while (my ($foo, $blah) = whatever()) {
$sth-execute($foo, $blah);
}

This code will result in a single parse call, and however many execute
calls with different bind values you deem appropriate. (By the way,
without the ora_check_sql setting, the prepare() method would cause
Oracle to perform two parse calls instead of just one.)


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Hi,

I know how to do it for regulard query statement but I
wasn't sure how to do it with procedures and packages.

I have this procedure. e.g.

I have this procedure 
'begin 
  run_proc ('foo','blah'); 
end;
'

the procedure will be called either in a perl script.
How would I change it so that it uses bind variables?
Because it will be executed many times every hour and
every day.

thanks,

benny

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RE: Multiple parses with bind variables

2003-08-20 Thread Cary Millsap
Exactly! This is the thing that ora_check_sql=0 prevents when you use
the Perl DBI. Then there's the problem of doing the prepare() inside a
loop. The way to fix that problem is to NEVER PARSE INSIDE A LOOP.


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The application that is running this, or the connection thinger (ODBC,
JDBC,
DBI) is parsing it twice. They often do a describe before a parse, which
results in two parses for every execution.

 945 * 2 = 1895


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Why should a query such as this, with bind variables and no literals,
be parsed so many times?  Other queries in the trace show, for example,
2 parses and 16 executions.  And while I'm at it, why does is the
parse count shown equal to the SUM of executes and fetches?

SELECT BENEFICIARY_FK, BENEFICIARY_PHONE_PK, PHONE_TYPE_FK,
PHONE_NUMBER 
FROM BENEFICIARY_PHONE WHERE COMPANY_FK = :V1 
AND BENEFICIARY_FK IN ( :V2)
  


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent   

--- --   -- -- -- --  
Parse 1890  0.21   0.17  0  0  0   
   
Execute945  0.04   0.08  0  0  0   
   
Fetch  945 38.48  43.24  0 620428  0



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RE: ADO and bind variables (was RE: Performance improvement required :-))

2003-06-26 Thread Grant Allen


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 Subject: ADO and bind variables (was RE: Performance improvement
 required :-))


 This is interesting--if I use ADO with the ODBC provider (as
 the code does
 below), I get the same results.  But if I use just ADO (that
 is, ms' OLE DB
 provider for oracle (MSDAORA.1)) then I don't get bind vars.

 (I'm doing INSERTs in my code, not SELECTs).

 I wonder if oracle's native OLE DB provider works any
 differently--I would
 bet that it does...

 Cheers,

 -Roy

Roy,

I tried with the Oracle provider (OraOLEDB.Oracle.1), and the bind variables
work.  Another reason to stick with the Oracle provider :-)

Ciao
Fuzzy
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ADO and bind variables (was RE: Performance improvement required :-))

2003-06-13 Thread Pardee, Roy E
This is interesting--if I use ADO with the ODBC provider (as the code does
below), I get the same results.  But if I use just ADO (that is, ms' OLE DB
provider for oracle (MSDAORA.1)) then I don't get bind vars.

(I'm doing INSERTs in my code, not SELECTs).

I wonder if oracle's native OLE DB provider works any differently--I would
bet that it does...

Cheers,

-Roy

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I'm sure you can.  You should see it in an ODBC trace log, or you can
use trace events on the database.  Here's a really simplistic test I did
to verify it.  I ran this VB code that executes a really dumb query that
could not have come from anywhere else - SELECT DUMMY FROM DUAL WHERE
DUMMY = 'X'  but passed 'X' as a bind variable

Private Sub Form_Load()

Dim conn1 As New ADODB.Connection
Dim cmd1 As New ADODB.Command
Dim rs1 As New ADODB.Recordset
Dim STRSQLSTRING As String
Dim param1 As New Parameter

strConnect = UID=produser;PWD=prodpass;DSN=WAREHOUSE;
STRSQLSTRING = SELECT DUMMY FROM DUAL WHERE DUMMY = ?

With conn1
.ConnectionTimeout = 0
.CommandTimeout = 0
.CursorLocation = adUseClient
.Mode = adModeRead
.Open strConnect
End With
If Err.Number Then
  MsgBox Err.Number
  Exit Sub
End If
With cmd1
.ActiveConnection = conn1
.CommandText = STRSQLSTRING
.CommandType = adCmdText
Set param1 = .CreateParameter(DummyValue, adChar,
adParamInput, 1, X)
param1.Value = X
.Parameters.Append param1
Set rs1 = .Execute
End With

MsgBox rs1.Fields(DUMMY)

End Sub


Afterward, executed this on the database -


SQL select sql_text from v$sqlarea where sql_text like 'SELECT DUMMY
%';

SQL_TEXT



SELECT DUMMY FROM DUAL WHERE DUMMY = :1


It shows the parameter was definitely passed as a bind variable.


Check out this document on Metalink -
Retrieving Record Set from Stored Proc Using ADO and VB (SCR 782)

It appears to have an example of passing a cursor back to a recordset,
though I've never tried it.


HTH.

Beth


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 Why can't you use bind variables?  I thought using .Parameters method
 (property?) of ADODB.Command would use bind variables.
I thought it didn't. Any way of checking (other than to get the
developers to try it?

 
 What function, and where can't you use it?
 
Stored Procedure type function (i.e. user-written) called from VB. 'Cos
it's a Stored Procedure it will use bind variables, but you can't return
a result set to VB.

Craig


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RE: Using bind variables with ADO in VB

2003-06-09 Thread Pardee, Roy E
I thought the .Prepared property of the command object was what you needed
to use bind vars from ADO.  

Have a look at the following code, adapted from the ADO help entry for
.Prepared.  It purports to compare response times for prepared  unprepared
versions of the same SQL command.  In the couple of times I've run it, the
prepared statement runs just a bit faster, for whatever that's worth.  I'm
not enough of a DBA to verify that it's using bind vars--but I bet one of
you are.

The table the code inserts into is a single column table called Numbers.

' ---
Public S u b PreparedX()

   Dim Cnxn As ADODB.Connection
   Dim cmd1 As ADODB.Command
   Dim cmd2 As ADODB.Command
   Dim prm As ADODB.Parameter
   
   Dim strCnxn As String
   Dim strCmd As String
   Dim sngStart As Single
   Dim sngEnd As Single
   Dim sngNotPrepared As Single
   Dim sngPrepared As Single
   Dim intLoop As Integer
   
   Dim strUserName As String
   Dim strPwd As String
   Dim strSID As String
   
   strUserName = scott
   strPwd = tiger
   strSID = devl
  
   ' Open a connection
   ' strCnxn = Provider=sqloledb;Data Source=MyServer;Initial
Catalog=Pubs;User Id=sa;Password=; 
   strCnxn = Provider=MSDAORA.1; _
User ID=  strUserName  ; _
Password=  strPwd  ; _
Data Source=  strSID  ; _
Persist Security Info=True
   Set Cnxn = New ADODB.Connection
   Cnxn.Open strCnxn

   ' Create two command objects for the same
   ' command - one prepared and one not prepared
   ' strCmd = SELECT title, type FROM Titles ORDER BY type
   ' strCmd = SELECT * FROM emp ORDER BY ename
   strCmd = INSERT INTO numbers VALUES (?)
   
   Set cmd1 = New ADODB.Command
   Set cmd1.ActiveConnection = Cnxn
   ' cmd1.CommandText = strCmd
  
   Set cmd2 = New ADODB.Command
   Set cmd2.ActiveConnection = Cnxn
   cmd2.CommandText = strCmd
   Set prm = cmd2.CreateParameter
   With prm
  .Name = Val
  .Type = adNumeric
  .Direction = adParamInput
   End With
   cmd2.Parameters.Append prm
   cmd2.Prepared = True
   
   ' Set a timer, then execute the unprepared
   ' command 20 times
   sngStart = Timer
   For intLoop = 40 To 60
  cmd1.CommandText = Replace(strCmd, ?, CStr(intLoop))
  cmd1.Execute
   Next intLoop
   sngEnd = Timer
   sngNotPrepared = sngEnd - sngStart
   
   ' Reset the timer, then execute the prepared
   ' command 20 times
   sngStart = Timer
   For intLoop = 70 To 90
  prm.Value = intLoop
  cmd2.Execute
   Next intLoop
   sngEnd = Timer
   sngPrepared = sngEnd - sngStart

   ' Display performance results
   MsgBox Performance Results:  vbCr  _
 Not Prepared:   Format(sngNotPrepared, _
  ##0.000)   seconds  vbCr  _
 Prepared:   Format(sngPrepared, _
  ##0.000)   seconds
  
' clean up
   Cnxn.Close
   Set Cnxn = Nothing

End Sub
' ---

(I ran this w/ADO 2.5, Net8 v.8.0.5, against an 8.0.6 db).

Cheers,

-Roy

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I don't THINK so. To quote further the parameters are not bound except
in the case of stored procedures...In the case of normal SQL, ADO
replaces the placeholder with Parameter.Value, so there is no binding on
the server side.
The way I read that, you can't use bind variables in VB using ADO.

Craig Healey

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 Hi
 
 Question: Are you sure that the binding you're referring to (your book
 excerpt) doesn't mean early bindig versus late binding in 
 VB using ADO ?
 
 Stefan
 
 
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 Having read that bind variables will solve all our problems ;-) I've
 tried to get the developers to use them. There response being: how? I
 don't know much VB and they don't know what a bind variable is. So I
 read with interest J Prem's question.  Now knowing what to look for, I
 read further, and found that ADO also does not bind (compile 
 to p-code)
 parameterized statements in Oracle (VB Oracle 8 by Dov Trietsch) 8-( 
 Is it true?
 Are bind variables that big a deal in VB code anyway? 
 We have a lot of badly written code, so are we better off 
 re-writing the
 code without bothering about bind variables at the moment?
 Am I worrying about nothing?
 And no, it doesn't scale particularly well!
 
 Regards
 
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RE: example to use bind variables with OO4O/VB

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RE: example to use bind variables with OO4O/VB

2003-06-06 Thread Ganesh Raja
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Guys,

can someone give a simple example ( piece of code ) for:

How to use bind variables with OO40/VB6 to connect to a 8.1.6 database ?

..peeped into metalink too.

can u give me any other example / URL for the same ???!

TIA.

Jp.




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RE: example to use bind variables with OO4O/VB

2003-06-06 Thread Jay Wade
I found this link really helpful during my development projects using oo4o.

http://technet.oracle.com/doc/oracle8i_816/nt.816/a8/o4o00259.htm


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go to your:
%ORACLE_HOME%\oo4o\VB\SAMPLES
it has a lot of example which should help

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Guys,

can someone give a simple example ( piece of code ) for:

How to use bind variables with OO40/VB6 to connect to a 8.1.6 database ?

..peeped into metalink too.

can u give me any other example / URL for the same ???!

TIA.

Jp.



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Re: example to use bind variables with OO4O/VB

2003-06-06 Thread Jared . Still
Try a search on support.microsoft.com.  There are several
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..peeped into metalink too.

can u give me any other example / URL for the same ???!

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Using bind variables with ADO in VB

2003-06-06 Thread Craig Healey
Having read that bind variables will solve all our problems ;-) I've
tried to get the developers to use them. There response being: how? I
don't know much VB and they don't know what a bind variable is. So I
read with interest J Prem's question.  Now knowing what to look for, I
read further, and found that ADO also does not bind (compile to p-code)
parameterized statements in Oracle (VB Oracle 8 by Dov Trietsch) 8-( 
Is it true?
Are bind variables that big a deal in VB code anyway? 
We have a lot of badly written code, so are we better off re-writing the
code without bothering about bind variables at the moment?
Am I worrying about nothing?
And no, it doesn't scale particularly well!

Regards

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RE: Using bind variables with ADO in VB

2003-06-06 Thread Regis Biassala
That's why developping server side code will help as you can bind in
PL/SQL...period !
Avoid using thick clients...instead put all your logic in Oracle server side
(i.e: write package, procedure and function)


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Having read that bind variables will solve all our problems ;-) I've
tried to get the developers to use them. There response being: how? I
don't know much VB and they don't know what a bind variable is. So I
read with interest J Prem's question.  Now knowing what to look for, I
read further, and found that ADO also does not bind (compile to p-code)
parameterized statements in Oracle (VB Oracle 8 by Dov Trietsch) 8-( 
Is it true?
Are bind variables that big a deal in VB code anyway? 
We have a lot of badly written code, so are we better off re-writing the
code without bothering about bind variables at the moment?
Am I worrying about nothing?
And no, it doesn't scale particularly well!

Regards

Craig Healey



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AW: Using bind variables with ADO in VB

2003-06-06 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi

Question: Are you sure that the binding you're referring to (your book
excerpt) doesn't mean early bindig versus late binding in VB using ADO ?

Stefan

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That's why developping server side code will help as you can bind in
PL/SQL...period !
Avoid using thick clients...instead put all your logic in Oracle server side
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Having read that bind variables will solve all our problems ;-) I've
tried to get the developers to use them. There response being: how? I
don't know much VB and they don't know what a bind variable is. So I
read with interest J Prem's question.  Now knowing what to look for, I
read further, and found that ADO also does not bind (compile to p-code)
parameterized statements in Oracle (VB Oracle 8 by Dov Trietsch) 8-( 
Is it true?
Are bind variables that big a deal in VB code anyway? 
We have a lot of badly written code, so are we better off re-writing the
code without bothering about bind variables at the moment?
Am I worrying about nothing?
And no, it doesn't scale particularly well!

Regards

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RE: Using bind variables with ADO in VB

2003-06-06 Thread Craig Healey
I don't THINK so. To quote further the parameters are not bound except
in the case of stored procedures...In the case of normal SQL, ADO
replaces the placeholder with Parameter.Value, so there is no binding on
the server side.
The way I read that, you can't use bind variables in VB using ADO.

Craig Healey

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: AW: Using bind variables with ADO in VB
 
 
 Hi
 
 Question: Are you sure that the binding you're referring to (your book
 excerpt) doesn't mean early bindig versus late binding in 
 VB using ADO ?
 
 Stefan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:35 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Having read that bind variables will solve all our problems ;-) I've
 tried to get the developers to use them. There response being: how? I
 don't know much VB and they don't know what a bind variable is. So I
 read with interest J Prem's question.  Now knowing what to look for, I
 read further, and found that ADO also does not bind (compile 
 to p-code)
 parameterized statements in Oracle (VB Oracle 8 by Dov Trietsch) 8-( 
 Is it true?
 Are bind variables that big a deal in VB code anyway? 
 We have a lot of badly written code, so are we better off 
 re-writing the
 code without bothering about bind variables at the moment?
 Am I worrying about nothing?
 And no, it doesn't scale particularly well!
 
 Regards
 
 Craig Healey
 


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RE: Using bind variables with ADO in VB

2003-06-06 Thread Jared . Still
Yet another reason not to use VB or anything like it.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/020177061X





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I don't THINK so. To quote further the parameters are not bound except
in the case of stored procedures...In the case of normal SQL, ADO
replaces the placeholder with Parameter.Value, so there is no binding on
the server side.
The way I read that, you can't use bind variables in VB using ADO.

Craig Healey

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 Hi
 
 Question: Are you sure that the binding you're referring to (your book
 excerpt) doesn't mean early bindig versus late binding in 
 VB using ADO ?
 
 Stefan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:35 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Having read that bind variables will solve all our problems ;-) I've
 tried to get the developers to use them. There response being: how? I
 don't know much VB and they don't know what a bind variable is. So I
 read with interest J Prem's question.  Now knowing what to look for, I
 read further, and found that ADO also does not bind (compile 
 to p-code)
 parameterized statements in Oracle (VB Oracle 8 by Dov Trietsch) 8-( 
 Is it true?
 Are bind variables that big a deal in VB code anyway? 
 We have a lot of badly written code, so are we better off 
 re-writing the
 code without bothering about bind variables at the moment?
 Am I worrying about nothing?
 And no, it doesn't scale particularly well!
 
 Regards
 
 Craig Healey
 


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RE: Using bind variables with ADO in VB

2003-06-06 Thread Jay Wade
Hello:

You can bind values using the command object.

Set the command type to text then add your parameters similar to how you 
would call a stored procedure.

The SQL would looks something like SELECT NAME FROM EMP WHERE 
EMPID=:PEMPNO

Also, if ADO (and ADO.Net) will bind the values for you, this can be seen in 
your code when monitoring using Quests SQL Monitor.  Although it is always 
better to do it yourself since the execution will be quicker and the values 
will be bound the first time.




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Yet another reason not to use VB or anything like it.

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I don't THINK so. To quote further the parameters are not bound except
in the case of stored procedures...In the case of normal SQL, ADO
replaces the placeholder with Parameter.Value, so there is no binding on
the server side.
The way I read that, you can't use bind variables in VB using ADO.
Craig Healey

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 Hi

 Question: Are you sure that the binding you're referring to (your book
 excerpt) doesn't mean early bindig versus late binding in
 VB using ADO ?

 Stefan


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 Having read that bind variables will solve all our problems ;-) I've
 tried to get the developers to use them. There response being: how? I
 don't know much VB and they don't know what a bind variable is. So I
 read with interest J Prem's question.  Now knowing what to look for, I
 read further, and found that ADO also does not bind (compile
 to p-code)
 parameterized statements in Oracle (VB Oracle 8 by Dov Trietsch) 8-(
 Is it true?
 Are bind variables that big a deal in VB code anyway?
 We have a lot of badly written code, so are we better off
 re-writing the
 code without bothering about bind variables at the moment?
 Am I worrying about nothing?
 And no, it doesn't scale particularly well!

 Regards

 Craig Healey

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example to use bind variables with OO4O/VB

2003-06-05 Thread Prem Khanna J
Guys,

can someone give a simple example ( piece of code ) for:

How to use bind variables with OO40/VB6 to connect to a 8.1.6 database ?

..peeped into metalink too.

can u give me any other example / URL for the same ???!

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Thanks -- Re: example to use bind variables with OO4O/VB

2003-06-05 Thread Prem Khanna J
Thanx Ganesh,Jared,Jay,Roy and Chajol.
Thanks for the info'.

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RE: Oracle position on hints (talking about bind variables)

2003-03-10 Thread Mark Richard
My first consideration with regards to bind variables is to consider the
cost of parsing the query.  After all the benefit of bind variables (or at
least a major one) is to reduce the number of parses required.  If the
query is going to be executed so rarely that the parse cost (a fraction of
a second typically) isn't significant then there appears to be little
benefit.

I think bind variables are most useful in OTLP where the same query gets
fired again and again (especially when you have hundreds of client
connections).  At the other extreme (a batch query executed once per day)
they aren't required.  Therefore my approach tends to be is the query
going to be executed very frequently - if so then look at using bind
variables on the values that will change.

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Well, I wouldn't say you should *always* use bind variables.

Many situations in a database warehouse preclude that.

Potentially long running queries may need to have literals
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Star transforms don't work with bind variables, and histograms
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Given the attitude of most dba's that you should always use bind variables
where possible I can't see how you'd cope with skewed data without them.
Most developers should know a databases's data better than the optimiser
and
certainly when building queries it's always worthwhile seeing where data
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There are lots of mature systems out there where the data characteristics
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Hi,

Does Oracle have an official position on hints ?
Will they go away as the optimiser is becoming bettre or they are there to
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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-11 Thread Bahar, Rivaldi (BBASSI-CHQ)
Thanks.
I'm running 8i and it worked fine with that statement.

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Hi.

You would need to wrap the ALTER SESSION into an Execute Immediate
statement:

EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 'ALTER SESSION SET EVENTS ''10046 trace name content
forever, level 4''';

Regards,
 Mark.

PS:  Single quotes become double quotes since the whole thing is wrapped in
another set of quotes, and the semi-colon is removed from the statement
being wrapped up.




 

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It worked well from SQLplus but not from procedure.
Did I miss something ?

SQLcreate or replace procedure testtrace
  2   as
  3vempno varchar2(3);
  4vempno1 varchar2(3);
  5begin
  6   ALTER Session SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context forever, level 4';
  7  select empno into vempno from test where rownum   2;
  8   select empno into vempno1 from test1 where rownum  2;
  9   end;
 10  /

Warning: Procedure created with compilation errors.

SQL show error
Errors for PROCEDURE TESTTRACE:

LINE/COL ERROR
 -
6/2  PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol ALTER when expecting one of
 the following:
 begin declare exit for goto if loop mod null pragma raise
 return select update while an identifier
 a double-quoted delimited-identifier a bind variable 
 close current delete fetch lock insert open rollback
 savepoint set sql execute commit forall
 a single-quoted SQL string

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In order to see the actual value of bind variables, you need to use
event 10046 with level 4.

from your procedure do:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'

Richard

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Hi Listers,

I set the sql trace true in a procedure,
let's say the procedure testproc(var1 IN number, var2 IN varchar2).
Is there a way to know the value passed to that procedure (the value of
var1
and
var2) in the trace file ? And also the value of bind variable of each SQL
statement in that procedure ?

The procedure called through application, not from SQLplus.

Thanks.





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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-11 Thread Stephen Lee

TMTOWTDI ... It's everywhere.
All these choices.  Why do they have to make life so complicated?

I'm just curious: How do you turn if off?
level(0)?

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   Hi, in 8i etc, you can use 
 dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,level(1-12),'') too.
 
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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-11 Thread Richard Ji
alter session set events '10046 trace name context off'

or

exec sys.dbms_system.set_ev(sid, serial#, 10046, 0, '')

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TMTOWTDI ... It's everywhere.
All these choices.  Why do they have to make life so complicated?

I'm just curious: How do you turn if off?
level(0)?

 -Original Message-
   Hi, in 8i etc, you can use 
 dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,level(1-12),'') too.
 
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Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread Bahar, Rivaldi (BBASSI-CHQ)
Hi Listers,

I set the sql trace true in a procedure, 
let's say the procedure testproc(var1 IN number, var2 IN varchar2).
Is there a way to know the value passed to that procedure (the value of var1
and
var2) in the trace file ? And also the value of bind variable of each SQL 
statement in that procedure ?

The procedure called through application, not from SQLplus.

Thanks.



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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread Richard Ji
In order to see the actual value of bind variables, you need to use
event 10046 with level 4.

from your procedure do:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'

Richard

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Hi Listers,

I set the sql trace true in a procedure, 
let's say the procedure testproc(var1 IN number, var2 IN varchar2).
Is there a way to know the value passed to that procedure (the value of var1
and
var2) in the trace file ? And also the value of bind variable of each SQL 
statement in that procedure ?

The procedure called through application, not from SQLplus.

Thanks.




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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread Bahar, Rivaldi (BBASSI-CHQ)
It worked well from SQLplus but not from procedure.
Did I miss something ?

SQLcreate or replace procedure testtrace
  2   as
  3vempno varchar2(3);
  4vempno1 varchar2(3);
  5begin
  6   ALTER Session SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context forever, level 4';
  7  select empno into vempno from test where rownum   2;
  8   select empno into vempno1 from test1 where rownum  2;
  9   end;
 10  /

Warning: Procedure created with compilation errors.

SQL show error
Errors for PROCEDURE TESTTRACE:

LINE/COL ERROR
 -
6/2  PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol ALTER when expecting one of
 the following:
 begin declare exit for goto if loop mod null pragma raise
 return select update while an identifier
 a double-quoted delimited-identifier a bind variable 
 close current delete fetch lock insert open rollback
 savepoint set sql execute commit forall
 a single-quoted SQL string

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In order to see the actual value of bind variables, you need to use
event 10046 with level 4.

from your procedure do:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'

Richard

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Hi Listers,

I set the sql trace true in a procedure, 
let's say the procedure testproc(var1 IN number, var2 IN varchar2).
Is there a way to know the value passed to that procedure (the value of var1
and
var2) in the trace file ? And also the value of bind variable of each SQL 
statement in that procedure ?

The procedure called through application, not from SQLplus.

Thanks.




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RE: Bind variables

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You might try playing around with the DBMS_SUPPORT package which is loaded
with the dbmssupp.sql script in the rdbms/admin directory.

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(SID, SERIAL#, waits=false, binds=true)

dbms_support.stop_trace_in_session(SID, SERIAL#).



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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread Richard Ji
alter session is DDL, you should do:

execute immediate 'ALTER Session SET EVENTS ''10046 trace name context
forever, level 4''';

Richard

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It worked well from SQLplus but not from procedure.
Did I miss something ?

SQLcreate or replace procedure testtrace
  2   as
  3vempno varchar2(3);
  4vempno1 varchar2(3);
  5begin
  6   ALTER Session SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context forever, level 4';
  7  select empno into vempno from test where rownum   2;
  8   select empno into vempno1 from test1 where rownum  2;
  9   end;
 10  /

Warning: Procedure created with compilation errors.

SQL show error
Errors for PROCEDURE TESTTRACE:

LINE/COL ERROR
 -
6/2  PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol ALTER when expecting one of
 the following:
 begin declare exit for goto if loop mod null pragma raise
 return select update while an identifier
 a double-quoted delimited-identifier a bind variable 
 close current delete fetch lock insert open rollback
 savepoint set sql execute commit forall
 a single-quoted SQL string

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In order to see the actual value of bind variables, you need to use
event 10046 with level 4.

from your procedure do:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'

Richard

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Hi Listers,

I set the sql trace true in a procedure, 
let's say the procedure testproc(var1 IN number, var2 IN varchar2).
Is there a way to know the value passed to that procedure (the value of var1
and
var2) in the trace file ? And also the value of bind variable of each SQL 
statement in that procedure ?

The procedure called through application, not from SQLplus.

Thanks.




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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread Mark Richard
Hi.

You would need to wrap the ALTER SESSION into an Execute Immediate
statement:

EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 'ALTER SESSION SET EVENTS ''10046 trace name content
forever, level 4''';

Regards,
 Mark.

PS:  Single quotes become double quotes since the whole thing is wrapped in
another set of quotes, and the semi-colon is removed from the statement
being wrapped up.




   
  
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It worked well from SQLplus but not from procedure.
Did I miss something ?

SQLcreate or replace procedure testtrace
  2   as
  3vempno varchar2(3);
  4vempno1 varchar2(3);
  5begin
  6   ALTER Session SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context forever, level 4';
  7  select empno into vempno from test where rownum   2;
  8   select empno into vempno1 from test1 where rownum  2;
  9   end;
 10  /

Warning: Procedure created with compilation errors.

SQL show error
Errors for PROCEDURE TESTTRACE:

LINE/COL ERROR
 -
6/2  PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol ALTER when expecting one of
 the following:
 begin declare exit for goto if loop mod null pragma raise
 return select update while an identifier
 a double-quoted delimited-identifier a bind variable 
 close current delete fetch lock insert open rollback
 savepoint set sql execute commit forall
 a single-quoted SQL string

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


In order to see the actual value of bind variables, you need to use
event 10046 with level 4.

from your procedure do:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'

Richard

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi Listers,

I set the sql trace true in a procedure,
let's say the procedure testproc(var1 IN number, var2 IN varchar2).
Is there a way to know the value passed to that procedure (the value of
var1
and
var2) in the trace file ? And also the value of bind variable of each SQL
statement in that procedure ?

The procedure called through application, not from SQLplus.

Thanks.





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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread Pillai, Rajesh
Try 

exec sql alter session set events .

Rajesh

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It worked well from SQLplus but not from procedure.
Did I miss something ?

SQLcreate or replace procedure testtrace
  2   as
  3vempno varchar2(3);
  4vempno1 varchar2(3);
  5begin
  6   ALTER Session SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context forever, level 4';
  7  select empno into vempno from test where rownum   2;
  8   select empno into vempno1 from test1 where rownum  2;
  9   end;
 10  /

Warning: Procedure created with compilation errors.

SQL show error
Errors for PROCEDURE TESTTRACE:

LINE/COL ERROR
 -
6/2  PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol ALTER when expecting one of
 the following:
 begin declare exit for goto if loop mod null pragma raise
 return select update while an identifier
 a double-quoted delimited-identifier a bind variable 
 close current delete fetch lock insert open rollback
 savepoint set sql execute commit forall
 a single-quoted SQL string

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


In order to see the actual value of bind variables, you need to use
event 10046 with level 4.

from your procedure do:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'

Richard

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi Listers,

I set the sql trace true in a procedure, 
let's say the procedure testproc(var1 IN number, var2 IN varchar2).
Is there a way to know the value passed to that procedure (the value of var1
and
var2) in the trace file ? And also the value of bind variable of each SQL 
statement in that procedure ?

The procedure called through application, not from SQLplus.

Thanks.




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Re: Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread Igor Neyman
Stephen,

What version of oracle are you talking about?
I didn't find dbms_support in 9.2.

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 You might try playing around with the DBMS_SUPPORT package which is loaded
 with the dbmssupp.sql script in the rdbms/admin directory.

 dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(SID, SERIAL#, waits=false,
binds=true)

 dbms_support.stop_trace_in_session(SID, SERIAL#).



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  It worked well from SQLplus but not from procedure.
  Did I miss something ?
 
 
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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread Stephen Lee

You have to load it by running the dbmssupp.sql script in the ?/rdbms/admin
directory.

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 What version of oracle are you talking about?
 I didn't find dbms_support in 9.2.
 
 Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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  You might try playing around with the DBMS_SUPPORT package 
 which is loaded
  with the dbmssupp.sql script in the rdbms/admin directory.
 
  dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(SID, SERIAL#, waits=false,
 binds=true)
 
  dbms_support.stop_trace_in_session(SID, SERIAL#).
 
 
 
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RE: Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread Sony kristanto
Hi Bahar,

If you run it on form you can find out the values by debugging that
'procedure testproc'.

Rgrds,

Sony

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 Hi Listers,
 
 I set the sql trace true in a procedure, 
 let's say the procedure testproc(var1 IN number, var2 IN varchar2).
 Is there a way to know the value passed to that procedure (the value of
 var1
 and
 var2) in the trace file ? And also the value of bind variable of each SQL 
 statement in that procedure ?
 
 The procedure called through application, not from SQLplus.
 
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Re: RE: Bind variables

2003-02-10 Thread chao_ping
Stephen Lee,
Hi, in 8i etc, you can use 
dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,level(1-12),'') too.





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=== 2003-02-10 14:09:00 ,you wrote£º===

You have to load it by running the dbmssupp.sql script in the ?/rdbms/admin
directory.

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 What version of oracle are you talking about?
 I didn't find dbms_support in 9.2.
 
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  You might try playing around with the DBMS_SUPPORT package 
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  with the dbmssupp.sql script in the rdbms/admin directory.
 
  dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(SID, SERIAL#, waits=false,
 binds=true)
 
  dbms_support.stop_trace_in_session(SID, SERIAL#).
 
 
 
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RE: bind variables

2002-09-09 Thread Vikas Khanna

Hi Nicoll,

The importance of bind variables, to use in OLTP application is such that if
we use, we survive else one or the other day we would feel uncomfortable
over the performance issues and would repent over the scalability of the
application.

Yes, if we use bind variables, the parser does not know how best to execute
the statement but basis on rough estimates (50% values are such that the
table is holding on basis the WHERE Clause),it generates many execution
plans and holds the one which has lowest cost in the V$library cache because
at that time the optimizer is not sure what values to bind. 

But in the case of DSS applications yes I do agree that these bind variables
are problematic as the data is in abundance and we have to use the data
skewness and its other credentials for the optimizer best to use as we are
playing with abundance of data.

Thanks
Vikas Khanna 

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

John,

You would have to ask while I've got the book at home.  But it's an
Orielly
book on PL/SQL Programming.  Sorry off the top of my head I can't remember
the
author or title.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: John Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   9/6/2002 7:38 AM

Despite the importance of using bind variables, the Oracle documentation
seems to make very little reference to how to use them(for example the
PL/SQL manual)

Can anyone point me at any decent documentation on the subject of using bind
variables in PL/SQL?

John



 -Original Message-
 From: Nicoll, Iain (Calanais) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 September 2002 15:23
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Must Read for Every Developer and DBA 
 
 I thought that bind variables were faster but you always have to ensure
 that
 if you're accessing by data which may be heavily skewed and histograms
 would
 usually help you may not want to use bind variables as they will disable
 the
 use of histograms.
 
 In saying that it doesn't look as though that would be the case here.
 
 Iain Nicoll
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:33 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hello Vikas,
 
 As You said We should always make use of bind variables as it executes
 faster as compare to the statements where we do not
 make use of bind variables.
 
 Q1) Can you please take a more specific example as how a statement can be
 altered to make use of bind variable.
 
 Q2) I made use of SELECT SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLAREA WHERE ROWNUM  5 to get
 few
 samples for you 
 
 These are as follows 
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 ANDUSER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 68221156  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = 'A '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A105722'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE   AWB_PREFIX = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  =
 67557416  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '  AND  PROCESS = 1 AND
 USER_ID
 = 'A105722
 
 How can I Introduce bind variables in these statements ?
 
 I may be sending a wrong SAMPLE as I feel I should apply your remove
 constant function and then send few SQL statements
 
 Warm Regards,
 Om
 
 In your case -- you are NOT using bind variables. 
 
 Taking your update statement here:
 
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 that SHOULD BE recoded in the application to become : 
 
 update cnst_queue set process = :b1, user_id = :b2, date_queued = sysdate,
 where awb_prefix = :b3
and awb_number = :b4
and awb_suffix = :b5
and awb_process = :b6
and user_id = :b7;
 
 and bind in those values before you execute this statement. There are ways
 in which it could be done and vary from language to language and
 environment
 to environment but they ALL support it.  You MUST do this. In this
 case,the
 first time you execute this statement you need to parse this statement
 (HARD
 PARSING) and once the execution plan gets into the SHARED POOL
 (V$libraryCache) the other users can use this to great effect. They would
 not reparse this statement again and again and but does do the soft
 parsing
 of it. So One Parse may lead to MANY executions instead

RE: bind variables

2002-09-09 Thread Toepke, Kevin M

Yes.

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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:28 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Kevin,

Are you saying then, that by default, any static
statement that is executed within PL/SQL will not have
be re-parsed eg

sp_proc(var in varchar2)
as
begin
   select last_name
   from emp
   where last_name = var;
end;

If that's the case, I wont have to change much code.

mkb

--- Toepke, Kevin M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually its easy. Any variable declared in PL/SQL
 and referenced in a
 non-dynamic SQL statement is a bind variable.
 
 In the following example (#1), some_var is an output
 bind-variable and
 other_var is a input bind variable. PL/SQL does
 manipulation on the
 statement and will send something like the following
 (#2) to the database
 
 #1
 DECLARE
 some_var NUMBER(1);
 other_var NUMBER(1)
 BEGIN
 SELECT 1
 INTO   some_var
 FROM   my_table
 WHERE  my_column = other_var;
 END;
 
 #2
 SELECT 1 FROM MY_TABLE WHERE MY_COLUMN = :1
 
 Kevin
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:59 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 John,
 
 You would have to ask while I've got the book at
 home.  But it's an
 Orielly
 book on PL/SQL Programming.  Sorry off the top of my
 head I can't remember
 the
 author or title.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
 Reply
 Separator
 Author: John Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   9/6/2002 7:38 AM
 
 Despite the importance of using bind variables, the
 Oracle documentation
 seems to make very little reference to how to use
 them(for example the
 PL/SQL manual)
 
 Can anyone point me at any decent documentation on
 the subject of using bind
 variables in PL/SQL?
 
 John
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)
 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 06 September 2002 15:23
  To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject:  RE: Must Read for Every Developer
 and DBA 
  
  I thought that bind variables were faster but you
 always have to ensure
  that
  if you're accessing by data which may be heavily
 skewed and histograms
  would
  usually help you may not want to use bind
 variables as they will disable
  the
  use of histograms.
  
  In saying that it doesn't look as though that
 would be the case here.
  
  Iain Nicoll
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:33 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  Hello Vikas,
  
  As You said We should always make use of bind
 variables as it executes
  faster as compare to the statements where we do
 not
  make use of bind variables.
  
  Q1) Can you please take a more specific example as
 how a statement can be
  altered to make use of bind variable.
  
  Q2) I made use of SELECT SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLAREA
 WHERE ROWNUM  5 to get
  few
  samples for you 
  
  These are as follows 
  
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID ='A101675'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
   = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND
  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
  AND
  PROCESS = 1 ANDUSER_ID = 'A101675'
  
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
   = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 68221156  AND
  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
  AND
  PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
  
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID ='A105722'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
   = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND
  AWB_SUFFIX  = 'A '
  AND
  PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A105722'
  
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID = 'A105722'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE   AWB_PREFIX = '125'
  AND  AWB_NUMBER  =
  67557416  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '  AND 
 PROCESS = 1 AND
  USER_ID
  = 'A105722
  
  How can I Introduce bind variables in these
 statements ?
  
  I may be sending a wrong SAMPLE as I feel I should
 apply your remove
  constant function and then send few SQL statements
  
  Warm Regards,
  Om
  
  In your case -- you are NOT using bind variables. 
  
  Taking your update statement here:
  
   UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
   = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND
  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
  AND
  PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
  
  that SHOULD BE recoded in the application to
 become : 
  
  update cnst_queue set process = :b1, user_id =
 :b2, date_queued = sysdate,
  where awb_prefix = :b3
 and awb_number = :b4
 and awb_suffix = :b5
 and awb_process = :b6
 and user_id = :b7;
  
  and bind in those values before you execute this
 statement. There are ways
  in which it could be done and vary from language
 to language and
  environment
  to environment but they ALL support it.  You MUST
 do this. In this
  case,the
  first time you execute this statement you need to
 parse

RE: bind variables

2002-09-08 Thread George . Leonard


If you want to show anyone the different in seed between using bind
variables and not using them Tom Kyte's Expert one on one got a nice
example, it is in chap 2 or 3 I think.

George

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John,

You would have to ask while I've got the book at home.  But it's an
Orielly
book on PL/SQL Programming.  Sorry off the top of my head I can't remember
the
author or title.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: John Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   9/6/2002 7:38 AM

Despite the importance of using bind variables, the Oracle documentation
seems to make very little reference to how to use them(for example the
PL/SQL manual)

Can anyone point me at any decent documentation on the subject of using bind
variables in PL/SQL?

John



 -Original Message-
 From: Nicoll, Iain (Calanais) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 September 2002 15:23
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Must Read for Every Developer and DBA 
 
 I thought that bind variables were faster but you always have to ensure
 that
 if you're accessing by data which may be heavily skewed and histograms
 would
 usually help you may not want to use bind variables as they will disable
 the
 use of histograms.
 
 In saying that it doesn't look as though that would be the case here.
 
 Iain Nicoll
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:33 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hello Vikas,
 
 As You said We should always make use of bind variables as it executes
 faster as compare to the statements where we do not
 make use of bind variables.
 
 Q1) Can you please take a more specific example as how a statement can be
 altered to make use of bind variable.
 
 Q2) I made use of SELECT SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLAREA WHERE ROWNUM  5 to get
 few
 samples for you 
 
 These are as follows 
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 ANDUSER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 68221156  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = 'A '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A105722'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE   AWB_PREFIX = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  =
 67557416  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '  AND  PROCESS = 1 AND
 USER_ID
 = 'A105722
 
 How can I Introduce bind variables in these statements ?
 
 I may be sending a wrong SAMPLE as I feel I should apply your remove
 constant function and then send few SQL statements
 
 Warm Regards,
 Om
 
 In your case -- you are NOT using bind variables. 
 
 Taking your update statement here:
 
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 that SHOULD BE recoded in the application to become : 
 
 update cnst_queue set process = :b1, user_id = :b2, date_queued = sysdate,
 where awb_prefix = :b3
and awb_number = :b4
and awb_suffix = :b5
and awb_process = :b6
and user_id = :b7;
 
 and bind in those values before you execute this statement. There are ways
 in which it could be done and vary from language to language and
 environment
 to environment but they ALL support it.  You MUST do this. In this
 case,the
 first time you execute this statement you need to parse this statement
 (HARD
 PARSING) and once the execution plan gets into the SHARED POOL
 (V$libraryCache) the other users can use this to great effect. They would
 not reparse this statement again and again and but does do the soft
 parsing
 of it. So One Parse may lead to MANY executions instead of 1 Parsing - 1
 Execution.
 
 At least 90% of your database execution time is spent PARSING and
 OPTIMIZING
 that update -- 10% is spent actually DOING it.  If you use bind variables
 --
 very

bind variables

2002-09-06 Thread John Dunn

Despite the importance of using bind variables, the Oracle documentation
seems to make very little reference to how to use them(for example the
PL/SQL manual)

Can anyone point me at any decent documentation on the subject of using bind
variables in PL/SQL?

John



 -Original Message-
 From: Nicoll, Iain (Calanais) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 September 2002 15:23
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Must Read for Every Developer and DBA 
 
 I thought that bind variables were faster but you always have to ensure
 that
 if you're accessing by data which may be heavily skewed and histograms
 would
 usually help you may not want to use bind variables as they will disable
 the
 use of histograms.
 
 In saying that it doesn't look as though that would be the case here.
 
 Iain Nicoll
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:33 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hello Vikas,
 
 As You said We should always make use of bind variables as it executes
 faster as compare to the statements where we do not
 make use of bind variables.
 
 Q1) Can you please take a more specific example as how a statement can be
 altered to make use of bind variable.
 
 Q2) I made use of SELECT SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLAREA WHERE ROWNUM  5 to get
 few
 samples for you 
 
 These are as follows 
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 ANDUSER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 68221156  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = 'A '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A105722'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE   AWB_PREFIX = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  =
 67557416  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '  AND  PROCESS = 1 AND
 USER_ID
 = 'A105722
 
 How can I Introduce bind variables in these statements ?
 
 I may be sending a wrong SAMPLE as I feel I should apply your remove
 constant function and then send few SQL statements
 
 Warm Regards,
 Om
 
 In your case -- you are NOT using bind variables. 
 
 Taking your update statement here:
 
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 that SHOULD BE recoded in the application to become : 
 
 update cnst_queue set process = :b1, user_id = :b2, date_queued = sysdate,
 where awb_prefix = :b3
and awb_number = :b4
and awb_suffix = :b5
and awb_process = :b6
and user_id = :b7;
 
 and bind in those values before you execute this statement. There are ways
 in which it could be done and vary from language to language and
 environment
 to environment but they ALL support it.  You MUST do this. In this
 case,the
 first time you execute this statement you need to parse this statement
 (HARD
 PARSING) and once the execution plan gets into the SHARED POOL
 (V$libraryCache) the other users can use this to great effect. They would
 not reparse this statement again and again and but does do the soft
 parsing
 of it. So One Parse may lead to MANY executions instead of 1 Parsing - 1
 Execution.
 
 At least 90% of your database execution time is spent PARSING and
 OPTIMIZING
 that update -- 10% is spent actually DOING it.  If you use bind variables
 --
 very little time will be spent parsing (you can get that statement to
 execute in 1/10 of the time).  Not only that -- but the concurrency and
 scalability of your database will go WAY up.
 
 This is the root cause of your issues, this must be fixed -- no questions
 about it.
 
 Vikas Khanna 
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 Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
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RE: bind variables

2002-09-06 Thread Toepke, Kevin M

Actually its easy. Any variable declared in PL/SQL and referenced in a
non-dynamic SQL statement is a bind variable.

In the following example (#1), some_var is an output bind-variable and
other_var is a input bind variable. PL/SQL does manipulation on the
statement and will send something like the following (#2) to the database

#1
DECLARE
some_var NUMBER(1);
other_var NUMBER(1)
BEGIN
SELECT 1
INTO   some_var
FROM   my_table
WHERE  my_column = other_var;
END;

#2
SELECT 1 FROM MY_TABLE WHERE MY_COLUMN = :1

Kevin
-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


John,

You would have to ask while I've got the book at home.  But it's an
Orielly
book on PL/SQL Programming.  Sorry off the top of my head I can't remember
the
author or title.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: John Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   9/6/2002 7:38 AM

Despite the importance of using bind variables, the Oracle documentation
seems to make very little reference to how to use them(for example the
PL/SQL manual)

Can anyone point me at any decent documentation on the subject of using bind
variables in PL/SQL?

John



 -Original Message-
 From: Nicoll, Iain (Calanais) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 September 2002 15:23
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Must Read for Every Developer and DBA 
 
 I thought that bind variables were faster but you always have to ensure
 that
 if you're accessing by data which may be heavily skewed and histograms
 would
 usually help you may not want to use bind variables as they will disable
 the
 use of histograms.
 
 In saying that it doesn't look as though that would be the case here.
 
 Iain Nicoll
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:33 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hello Vikas,
 
 As You said We should always make use of bind variables as it executes
 faster as compare to the statements where we do not
 make use of bind variables.
 
 Q1) Can you please take a more specific example as how a statement can be
 altered to make use of bind variable.
 
 Q2) I made use of SELECT SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLAREA WHERE ROWNUM  5 to get
 few
 samples for you 
 
 These are as follows 
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 ANDUSER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 68221156  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = 'A '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A105722'
 
 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE   AWB_PREFIX = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  =
 67557416  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '  AND  PROCESS = 1 AND
 USER_ID
 = 'A105722
 
 How can I Introduce bind variables in these statements ?
 
 I may be sending a wrong SAMPLE as I feel I should apply your remove
 constant function and then send few SQL statements
 
 Warm Regards,
 Om
 
 In your case -- you are NOT using bind variables. 
 
 Taking your update statement here:
 
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
 
 that SHOULD BE recoded in the application to become : 
 
 update cnst_queue set process = :b1, user_id = :b2, date_queued = sysdate,
 where awb_prefix = :b3
and awb_number = :b4
and awb_suffix = :b5
and awb_process = :b6
and user_id = :b7;
 
 and bind in those values before you execute this statement. There are ways
 in which it could be done and vary from language to language and
 environment
 to environment but they ALL support it.  You MUST do this. In this
 case,the
 first time you execute this statement you need to parse this statement
 (HARD
 PARSING) and once the execution plan gets into the SHARED POOL
 (V$libraryCache) the other users can use this to great effect. They would
 not reparse this statement again and again and but does do the soft
 parsing
 of it. So One Parse may lead to MANY executions instead of 1 Parsing - 1
 Execution.
 
 At least 90% of your database execution time is spent PARSING and
 OPTIMIZING
 that update -- 10% is spent actually DOING it.  If you use bind variables
 --
 very little time will be spent parsing (you can get that statement to
 execute in 1/10 of the time).  Not only that -- but the concurrency

Re: bind variables

2002-09-06 Thread Philip Douglass

You probably already are. You have to go to a lot of trouble to avoid
using bind variables in PL/SQL. (I'm too lazy^H^H^H^H busy to find the doc
link right now.)

-- Philip

- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:38 AM


Despite the importance of using bind variables, the Oracle documentation
seems to make very little reference to how to use them(for example the
PL/SQL manual)

Can anyone point me at any decent documentation on the subject of using
bind
variables in PL/SQL?

John



 -Original Message-
 From: Nicoll, Iain (Calanais) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 September 2002 15:23
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Must Read for Every Developer and DBA

 I thought that bind variables were faster but you always have to ensure
 that
 if you're accessing by data which may be heavily skewed and histograms
 would
 usually help you may not want to use bind variables as they will disable
 the
 use of histograms.

 In saying that it doesn't look as though that would be the case here.

 Iain Nicoll

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:33 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Hello Vikas,

 As You said We should always make use of bind variables as it executes
 faster as compare to the statements where we do not
 make use of bind variables.

 Q1) Can you please take a more specific example as how a statement can
be
 altered to make use of bind variable.

 Q2) I made use of SELECT SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLAREA WHERE ROWNUM  5 to get
 few
 samples for you

 These are as follows

 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 ANDUSER_ID = 'A101675'

 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 68221156  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'

 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID ='A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = 'A '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A105722'

 UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A105722'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE   AWB_PREFIX = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER
=
 67557416  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '  AND  PROCESS = 1 AND
 USER_ID
 = 'A105722

 How can I Introduce bind variables in these statements ?

 I may be sending a wrong SAMPLE as I feel I should apply your remove
 constant function and then send few SQL statements

 Warm Regards,
 Om

 In your case -- you are NOT using bind variables.

 Taking your update statement here:

  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
 ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
  = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
 AND
 PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'

 that SHOULD BE recoded in the application to become :

 update cnst_queue set process = :b1, user_id = :b2, date_queued =
sysdate,
 where awb_prefix = :b3
and awb_number = :b4
and awb_suffix = :b5
and awb_process = :b6
and user_id = :b7;

 and bind in those values before you execute this statement. There are
ways
 in which it could be done and vary from language to language and
 environment
 to environment but they ALL support it.  You MUST do this. In this
 case,the
 first time you execute this statement you need to parse this statement
 (HARD
 PARSING) and once the execution plan gets into the SHARED POOL
 (V$libraryCache) the other users can use this to great effect. They
would
 not reparse this statement again and again and but does do the soft
 parsing
 of it. So One Parse may lead to MANY executions instead of 1 Parsing -
1
 Execution.

 At least 90% of your database execution time is spent PARSING and
 OPTIMIZING
 that update -- 10% is spent actually DOING it.  If you use bind
variables
 --
 very little time will be spent parsing (you can get that statement to
 execute in 1/10 of the time).  Not only that -- but the concurrency and
 scalability of your database will go WAY up.

 This is the root cause of your issues, this must be fixed -- no
questions
 about it.

 Vikas Khanna
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 Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
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RE: bind variables

2002-09-06 Thread mkb

Kevin,

Are you saying then, that by default, any static
statement that is executed within PL/SQL will not have
be re-parsed eg

sp_proc(var in varchar2)
as
begin
   select last_name
   from emp
   where last_name = var;
end;

If that's the case, I wont have to change much code.

mkb

--- Toepke, Kevin M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually its easy. Any variable declared in PL/SQL
 and referenced in a
 non-dynamic SQL statement is a bind variable.
 
 In the following example (#1), some_var is an output
 bind-variable and
 other_var is a input bind variable. PL/SQL does
 manipulation on the
 statement and will send something like the following
 (#2) to the database
 
 #1
 DECLARE
 some_var NUMBER(1);
 other_var NUMBER(1)
 BEGIN
 SELECT 1
 INTO   some_var
 FROM   my_table
 WHERE  my_column = other_var;
 END;
 
 #2
 SELECT 1 FROM MY_TABLE WHERE MY_COLUMN = :1
 
 Kevin
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:59 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 John,
 
 You would have to ask while I've got the book at
 home.  But it's an
 Orielly
 book on PL/SQL Programming.  Sorry off the top of my
 head I can't remember
 the
 author or title.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
 Reply
 Separator
 Author: John Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   9/6/2002 7:38 AM
 
 Despite the importance of using bind variables, the
 Oracle documentation
 seems to make very little reference to how to use
 them(for example the
 PL/SQL manual)
 
 Can anyone point me at any decent documentation on
 the subject of using bind
 variables in PL/SQL?
 
 John
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)
 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 06 September 2002 15:23
  To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject:  RE: Must Read for Every Developer
 and DBA 
  
  I thought that bind variables were faster but you
 always have to ensure
  that
  if you're accessing by data which may be heavily
 skewed and histograms
  would
  usually help you may not want to use bind
 variables as they will disable
  the
  use of histograms.
  
  In saying that it doesn't look as though that
 would be the case here.
  
  Iain Nicoll
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:33 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  Hello Vikas,
  
  As You said We should always make use of bind
 variables as it executes
  faster as compare to the statements where we do
 not
  make use of bind variables.
  
  Q1) Can you please take a more specific example as
 how a statement can be
  altered to make use of bind variable.
  
  Q2) I made use of SELECT SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLAREA
 WHERE ROWNUM  5 to get
  few
  samples for you 
  
  These are as follows 
  
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID ='A101675'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
   = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND
  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
  AND
  PROCESS = 1 ANDUSER_ID = 'A101675'
  
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
   = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 68221156  AND
  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
  AND
  PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
  
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID ='A105722'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
   = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND
  AWB_SUFFIX  = 'A '
  AND
  PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A105722'
  
  UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID = 'A105722'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE   AWB_PREFIX = '125'
  AND  AWB_NUMBER  =
  67557416  AND  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '  AND 
 PROCESS = 1 AND
  USER_ID
  = 'A105722
  
  How can I Introduce bind variables in these
 statements ?
  
  I may be sending a wrong SAMPLE as I feel I should
 apply your remove
  constant function and then send few SQL statements
  
  Warm Regards,
  Om
  
  In your case -- you are NOT using bind variables. 
  
  Taking your update statement here:
  
   UPDATE   CNST_QUEUE   SET  PROCESS = -1
 ,USER_ID = 'A101675'
  ,DATE_QUEUED = sysdate  WHERE  AWB_PREFIX
   = '125'  AND  AWB_NUMBER  = 67557405  AND
  AWB_SUFFIX  = '  '
  AND
  PROCESS = 1 AND  USER_ID = 'A101675'
  
  that SHOULD BE recoded in the application to
 become : 
  
  update cnst_queue set process = :b1, user_id =
 :b2, date_queued = sysdate,
  where awb_prefix = :b3
 and awb_number = :b4
 and awb_suffix = :b5
 and awb_process = :b6
 and user_id = :b7;
  
  and bind in those values before you execute this
 statement. There are ways
  in which it could be done and vary from language
 to language and
  environment
  to environment but they ALL support it.  You MUST
 do this. In this
  case,the
  first time you execute this statement you need to
 parse this statement
  (HARD
  PARSING) and once the execution plan gets into the
 SHARED POOL
  (V$libraryCache) the other

Bind Variables in VB

2002-07-24 Thread Dave Leach

All,

Can anyone provide examples of how to issue an SQL statement in VB using
Bind Variables (using DAO or ADO).

Many thanks for any responses.

Dave Leach
Technical Services
Claybrook Computing
Internal ext * 4992
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RE: Bind Variables in VB

2002-07-24 Thread Miller, Jay

Someone pointed me towards these articles when I asked this question a week
or two ago:


http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ado270/htm/
mdobjparameter.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ado270/htm/
mdmscadoobjmod.asp

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 8:30 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


All,

Can anyone provide examples of how to issue an SQL statement in VB using
Bind Variables (using DAO or ADO).

Many thanks for any responses.

Dave Leach
Technical Services
Claybrook Computing
Internal ext * 4992
Phone * 01293 604992
Fax 01293 604029
E-Mail * [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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and may be unlawful.
 
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Registered Office: Abbey House. 282 Farnborough Road, Farnborough, Hampshire
GU14 7NJ
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AW: How to change VB code to use bind variables?

2002-07-17 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi 

I did a search on MSDN for sql bind variable. Here is the result page:

http://search.microsoft.com/default.asp?qu=sql+bind+variableboolean=ALLnq=
NEWso=RECCNTp=1ig=01ig=02ig=03ig=04ig=05ig=06i=00i=01i=02i=03i=
04i=05i=06i=07i=08i=09i=10i=11i=12i=13i=14i=15i=16i=17i=18i=1
9i=20i=21i=22i=23i=24i=25i=26i=27i=28i=29i=30i=31i=32i=33i=34
i=35i=36i=37i=38i=39i=40i=41i=42i=43i=44i=45i=46i=47i=48i=49
i=50i=51siteid=us/dev

Looks like some articles might help.

Try also these ones

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ado270/htm/
mdobjparameter.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ado270/htm/
mdmscadoobjmod.asp


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Hi Jared,

Thanks for the suggestion.  But I went to www.microsoft.com, clicked on
support and searched on the words
bind variables oracle visual basic

After a dozen Internet Explorer Script errors I got a bunch of links with
names like 26jbkjakjbmon

That one led to a blank page.  Others led to articles that didn't even
mention bind variables.  And I thought Metalink was bad.

Does anyone have a link that goes directly to an article?

Thanks,
Jay Miller

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Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Check on the MS support site.  There are several
articles detailing how to do this.

Jared





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Hi,

In checking my v$SQLArea I recently discovered that there was an often
executed SQL statement that was not using bind variables.  I tracked it 
down
to a VB front end and asked the development group to modify the code. They
asked me how to do it.

Not being a VB programmer I said I had no idea but would try to find out.
Here's an abbreviated version of the code.  It's the sAcctId that seems to
be causing the multiple executions.  Anyone know how this can be rewritten
to use bind variables?  Can it be done from VB or do we need to transfer 
the
code to PL/SQL on the back end?

Private Function GetSQL(ByVal sKey As String, _
ByVal sAcctId As String, _
Optional ByVal sAcctNum As String, _
Optional ByVal sWhereAnd As String)
Dim sConnect As String
Dim sSql As String
Dim oWsiLibData As WSILib.CDisplayData
Dim rsCustomer As ADODB.Recordset
Dim lCustId As Long
Dim sCustId As String

Select Case sKey
...
...
Case accountinfo:
 sSql = SELECT a.id, a.account_no, a.type, a.title1, 
a.title2,
a.title3,   _
a.inventory_date date_opened, a.last_modified_date
last_change,   _
rc.description rebatecmsn,   _
sSql = sSql   account_info.fetch_email(  sAcctId  ) 
email

sSql = sSql  FROM account a, status s, usa_wh_tax u, fund f, 

 _
stock_commission_codes sc, cmsn_rebate_codes rc,
account_kind ak 
sSql = sSql  , dual  
sSql = sSql  WHERE a.status_id=s.id and
a.usa_tax_code=u.code(+)   _
and a.fund_id=f.id and   _
a.s_stk_cmsn_code=sc.code(+) and
a.cmsn_reb_code=rc.code(+) and a.kind_id=ak.id   _
and a.id =  sAcctId

sConnect = sConnectWSI

GetSQL = Array(sConnect, sSql)
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How to change VB code to use bind variables?

2002-07-16 Thread Miller, Jay

Hi,

In checking my v$SQLArea I recently discovered that there was an often
executed SQL statement that was not using bind variables.  I tracked it down
to a VB front end and asked the development group to modify the code.  They
asked me how to do it.

Not being a VB programmer I said I had no idea but would try to find out.
Here's an abbreviated version of the code.  It's the sAcctId that seems to
be causing the multiple executions.  Anyone know how this can be rewritten
to use bind variables?  Can it be done from VB or do we need to transfer the
code to PL/SQL on the back end?

Private Function GetSQL(ByVal sKey As String, _
ByVal sAcctId As String, _
Optional ByVal sAcctNum As String, _
Optional ByVal sWhereAnd As String)
Dim sConnect As String
Dim sSql As String
Dim oWsiLibData As WSILib.CDisplayData
Dim rsCustomer As ADODB.Recordset
Dim lCustId As Long
Dim sCustId As String

Select Case sKey
...
...
Case accountinfo:
sSql = SELECT a.id, a.account_no, a.type, a.title1, a.title2,
a.title3,   _
a.inventory_date date_opened, a.last_modified_date
last_change,   _
rc.description rebatecmsn,   _
sSql = sSql   account_info.fetch_email(  sAcctId  ) email

sSql = sSql  FROM account a, status s, usa_wh_tax u, fund f, 
 _
stock_commission_codes sc, cmsn_rebate_codes rc,
account_kind ak 
sSql = sSql  , dual  
sSql = sSql  WHERE a.status_id=s.id and
a.usa_tax_code=u.code(+)   _
and a.fund_id=f.id and   _
a.s_stk_cmsn_code=sc.code(+) and
a.cmsn_reb_code=rc.code(+) and a.kind_id=ak.id   _
and a.id =  sAcctId

sConnect = sConnectWSI

GetSQL = Array(sConnect, sSql)
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Re: How to change VB code to use bind variables?

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

Check on the MS support site.  There are several
articles detailing how to do this.

Jared





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Hi,

In checking my v$SQLArea I recently discovered that there was an often
executed SQL statement that was not using bind variables.  I tracked it 
down
to a VB front end and asked the development group to modify the code. They
asked me how to do it.

Not being a VB programmer I said I had no idea but would try to find out.
Here's an abbreviated version of the code.  It's the sAcctId that seems to
be causing the multiple executions.  Anyone know how this can be rewritten
to use bind variables?  Can it be done from VB or do we need to transfer 
the
code to PL/SQL on the back end?

Private Function GetSQL(ByVal sKey As String, _
ByVal sAcctId As String, _
Optional ByVal sAcctNum As String, _
Optional ByVal sWhereAnd As String)
Dim sConnect As String
Dim sSql As String
Dim oWsiLibData As WSILib.CDisplayData
Dim rsCustomer As ADODB.Recordset
Dim lCustId As Long
Dim sCustId As String

Select Case sKey
...
...
Case accountinfo:
 sSql = SELECT a.id, a.account_no, a.type, a.title1, 
a.title2,
a.title3,   _
a.inventory_date date_opened, a.last_modified_date
last_change,   _
rc.description rebatecmsn,   _
sSql = sSql   account_info.fetch_email(  sAcctId  ) 
email

sSql = sSql  FROM account a, status s, usa_wh_tax u, fund f, 

 _
stock_commission_codes sc, cmsn_rebate_codes rc,
account_kind ak 
sSql = sSql  , dual  
sSql = sSql  WHERE a.status_id=s.id and
a.usa_tax_code=u.code(+)   _
and a.fund_id=f.id and   _
a.s_stk_cmsn_code=sc.code(+) and
a.cmsn_reb_code=rc.code(+) and a.kind_id=ak.id   _
and a.id =  sAcctId

sConnect = sConnectWSI

GetSQL = Array(sConnect, sSql)
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RE: How to change VB code to use bind variables?

2002-07-16 Thread Miller, Jay

Hi Jared,

Thanks for the suggestion.  But I went to www.microsoft.com, clicked on
support and searched on the words
bind variables oracle visual basic

After a dozen Internet Explorer Script errors I got a bunch of links with
names like 26jbkjakjbmon

That one led to a blank page.  Others led to articles that didn't even
mention bind variables.  And I thought Metalink was bad.

Does anyone have a link that goes directly to an article?

Thanks,
Jay Miller

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Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Check on the MS support site.  There are several
articles detailing how to do this.

Jared





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Subject:How to change VB code to use bind variables?


Hi,

In checking my v$SQLArea I recently discovered that there was an often
executed SQL statement that was not using bind variables.  I tracked it 
down
to a VB front end and asked the development group to modify the code. They
asked me how to do it.

Not being a VB programmer I said I had no idea but would try to find out.
Here's an abbreviated version of the code.  It's the sAcctId that seems to
be causing the multiple executions.  Anyone know how this can be rewritten
to use bind variables?  Can it be done from VB or do we need to transfer 
the
code to PL/SQL on the back end?

Private Function GetSQL(ByVal sKey As String, _
ByVal sAcctId As String, _
Optional ByVal sAcctNum As String, _
Optional ByVal sWhereAnd As String)
Dim sConnect As String
Dim sSql As String
Dim oWsiLibData As WSILib.CDisplayData
Dim rsCustomer As ADODB.Recordset
Dim lCustId As Long
Dim sCustId As String

Select Case sKey
...
...
Case accountinfo:
 sSql = SELECT a.id, a.account_no, a.type, a.title1, 
a.title2,
a.title3,   _
a.inventory_date date_opened, a.last_modified_date
last_change,   _
rc.description rebatecmsn,   _
sSql = sSql   account_info.fetch_email(  sAcctId  ) 
email

sSql = sSql  FROM account a, status s, usa_wh_tax u, fund f, 

 _
stock_commission_codes sc, cmsn_rebate_codes rc,
account_kind ak 
sSql = sSql  , dual  
sSql = sSql  WHERE a.status_id=s.id and
a.usa_tax_code=u.code(+)   _
and a.fund_id=f.id and   _
a.s_stk_cmsn_code=sc.code(+) and
a.cmsn_reb_code=rc.code(+) and a.kind_id=ak.id   _
and a.id =  sAcctId

sConnect = sConnectWSI

GetSQL = Array(sConnect, sSql)
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RE: How to change VB code to use bind variables?

2002-07-16 Thread Gene Sais

did you try google?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=bind+variables+oracle+visual+basicbtnG=Google+Search

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/02 06:08PM 
Hi Jared,

Thanks for the suggestion.  But I went to www.microsoft.com, clicked on
support and searched on the words
bind variables oracle visual basic

After a dozen Internet Explorer Script errors I got a bunch of links with
names like 26jbkjakjbmon

That one led to a blank page.  Others led to articles that didn't even
mention bind variables.  And I thought Metalink was bad.

Does anyone have a link that goes directly to an article?

Thanks,
Jay Miller

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Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Check on the MS support site.  There are several
articles detailing how to do this.

Jared





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Hi,

In checking my v$SQLArea I recently discovered that there was an often
executed SQL statement that was not using bind variables.  I tracked it 
down
to a VB front end and asked the development group to modify the code. They
asked me how to do it.

Not being a VB programmer I said I had no idea but would try to find out.
Here's an abbreviated version of the code.  It's the sAcctId that seems to
be causing the multiple executions.  Anyone know how this can be rewritten
to use bind variables?  Can it be done from VB or do we need to transfer 
the
code to PL/SQL on the back end?

Private Function GetSQL(ByVal sKey As String, _
ByVal sAcctId As String, _
Optional ByVal sAcctNum As String, _
Optional ByVal sWhereAnd As String)
Dim sConnect As String
Dim sSql As String
Dim oWsiLibData As WSILib.CDisplayData
Dim rsCustomer As ADODB.Recordset
Dim lCustId As Long
Dim sCustId As String

Select Case sKey
...
...
Case accountinfo:
 sSql = SELECT a.id, a.account_no, a.type, a.title1, 
a.title2,
a.title3,   _
a.inventory_date date_opened, a.last_modified_date
last_change,   _
rc.description rebatecmsn,   _
sSql = sSql   account_info.fetch_email(  sAcctId  ) 
email

sSql = sSql  FROM account a, status s, usa_wh_tax u, fund f, 

 _
stock_commission_codes sc, cmsn_rebate_codes rc,
account_kind ak 
sSql = sSql  , dual  
sSql = sSql  WHERE a.status_id=s.id and
a.usa_tax_code=u.code(+)   _
and a.fund_id=f.id and   _
a.s_stk_cmsn_code=sc.code(+) and
a.cmsn_reb_code=rc.code(+) and a.kind_id=ak.id   _
and a.id =  sAcctId

sConnect = sConnectWSI

GetSQL = Array(sConnect, sSql)
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Re: Help on using bind variables asp web pages

2001-12-12 Thread Jared . Still


You may want to check support.microsoft.com.

There are some pages there that detail the use
of Oracle and ASP.

Jared



   
 
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Hi,
Can anybody give me some examples as to how I can use bind variables in asp

pages.
Here the developers are using static values for inserting and updating the
data due to which the whole shared pool is filled with nothing insert and
update statements.
They are not able to get any documents on this issue.
If anybody knows about this or point some urls,It will be of great help.
Thanks in advance




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Help on using bind variables asp web pages

2001-12-12 Thread ARUN K C

Hi,
Can anybody give me some examples as to how I can use bind variables in asp 
pages.
Here the developers are using static values for inserting and updating the 
data due to which the whole shared pool is filled with nothing insert and 
update statements.
They are not able to get any documents on this issue.
If anybody knows about this or point some urls,It will be of great help.
Thanks in advance




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RE: Value of bind variables in tkprof

2001-11-01 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Hi,

TKPROF is not designed to format the event 10046 level 4 data.
It can only format the trace of event 10046 level 1 (Read: SQL Trace).

If you want to format the higher level trace file you need to use
*itprof*  (Check www.unal-bilisim.com )  *sparky* Hotsos profiler
(Check www.hotsos.com).

The first one is free and Hotsos is free for their customers.


Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan
Bangalore, INDIA
+ (91) 98451 78868

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Mike - Haven't used this, so I will be interested in how you come out. If
you set trace level to 4 or 12, as in
alter system set timed_statistics = true
alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'

Then the trace file that is produced should have your bind values. I'm not
sure whether you can see them through tkprof or if you have to just directly
view the trace file.
 Let me know how you come out.
Dennis Williams
DBA
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Hello,

I am trying to debug the sql of an app that uses oracle as the back end.  In
order to see what the app is doing I did the following:

1) had the user log on the the application
2) Started a trace for the users session
3) Had the user go through a normal work flow (it's an order entry app)
4) After the user finished I turned the trace off
5) Used tkprof to extract the sql statements from the users session

There are no problems with any of the above steps.

When I look at the file I see something similar to the following:

select col1,col2,col3,col4,col5
from table1
where col3 = :1
and   col5 = :2 ;


Is there any way to see what the actual values for ':1 and :2' are?

Thanks.

MIke

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RE: Value of bind variables in tkprof

2001-10-31 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Mike - Haven't used this, so I will be interested in how you come out. If
you set trace level to 4 or 12, as in 
alter system set timed_statistics = true
alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level 4'

Then the trace file that is produced should have your bind values. I'm not
sure whether you can see them through tkprof or if you have to just directly
view the trace file.
 Let me know how you come out.
Dennis Williams
DBA
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Hello,

I am trying to debug the sql of an app that uses oracle as the back end.  In
order to see what the app is doing I did the following:

1) had the user log on the the application
2) Started a trace for the users session
3) Had the user go through a normal work flow (it's an order entry app)
4) After the user finished I turned the trace off
5) Used tkprof to extract the sql statements from the users session

There are no problems with any of the above steps.

When I look at the file I see something similar to the following:

select col1,col2,col3,col4,col5
from table1
where col3 = :1
and   col5 = :2 ;


Is there any way to see what the actual values for ':1 and :2' are?

Thanks.

MIke

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RE: Bind Variables

2001-10-22 Thread Kimberly Smith

What percentage are you estimating?  Have you played with that?

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I have always used the CBO and statistics are generated fairly regularly.  I
use the analyze table estimate statistics which should not generate
histogram information.  I have even used the INDEX, FIRST_ROWS, and ALL_ROWS
hints.  None made a difference.  I regenerated the statistics on all tables
of a particular slow query with bind variables and it didn't make a
difference either.  Our platform is red hat linux 6.2 and oracle 8.1.7. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/19/01 18:58 PM 
I have heard of it.  Its a concern.  However, with hints you can
solve some of your problems.  And then you could use Stored Outlines
and get it stable.  And then life will be groovy.

-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L





Danny,

It sounds like when you ...moved to bind variables... you did two things:
1. Switched to using CBO
2. Changed your application to take advantage of the bind variables.

I have never heard of switching to bind variables making things slower (and
can not imagine when it would make it so --  the CBO vs. RBO is irrelevant
in this case).

Thus the question: did you collect the statistics on all your application
tables prior to switching to CBO?

If you did not have any statistics collected or had some tables that did
not have statistics collected then Oracle may had been choosing wrong
execution path.

Thanks,
Val Gamerman.




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Danny,
Were you using histograms?   Histograms do not work on bind variables,
they only work on literals.
I'm sure others will have more to say on the topic but that is one tidbit
that
I do have experience with on bind variables.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
After we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of the =
same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into converting
=
 certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to using bind =
variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to load all of the sudden =
took  2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at 100% from 8-5 every
=
day while this application was being used.  We have converted back to =
literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While on bind variables,
=
 we used every possible hint except RULE and had no luck.  We didn't want =
to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle claims not to use the RBO =
(because of no further enhancements and possibly phasing it out), and to =
start using the CBO for everything.
There are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind variables.
=
 I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing in regards to using =
bind variables and what their experiences are.
TIA
Danny Hughes
DBA
Knobias.com
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=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you

Re: Bind Variables

2001-10-21 Thread Greg Moore

Danny,

I'll bet my morning cheese danish that when you changed the SQL from using
literals to bind variables, the execution plan changed.

Just pull each SQL statement and run it in SQL*Plus, one version of it with
literals and the other with bind variables.  The difference in your web page
coming up in  2 seconds with literals and  5 minutes with bind variables
is huge.  Testing like this in SQL*Plus should reveal which SQL statement is
taking longer with bind variables.

In SQL*Plus use SET AUTOTRACE ON so you can see the execution plans.  Once
you find the problem you can use hints to force the bind variable version to
use the same fast plan that was used by the literal version.



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RE: Bind Variables

2001-10-21 Thread A. Bardeen

Danny,

Have you tried generating explain plans with and
without bind variables and comparing them?  That
should help you identify if it's truly related to bind
variables.  What are the wait events for the queries
that are running slower?

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Danny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have always used the CBO and statistics are
 generated fairly regularly.  I use the analyze table
 estimate statistics which should not generate
 histogram information.  I have even used the INDEX,
 FIRST_ROWS, and ALL_ROWS hints.  None made a
 difference.  I regenerated the statistics on all
 tables of a particular slow query with bind
 variables and it didn't make a difference either. 
 Our platform is red hat linux 6.2 and oracle 8.1.7. 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/19/01 18:58 PM
 
 I have heard of it.  Its a concern.  However, with
 hints you can
 solve some of your problems.  And then you could use
 Stored Outlines
 and get it stable.  And then life will be groovy.
 
 -Original Message-

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:45 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 
 
 Danny,
 
 It sounds like when you ...moved to bind
 variables... you did two things:
 1. Switched to using CBO
 2. Changed your application to take advantage of the
 bind variables.
 
 I have never heard of switching to bind variables
 making things slower (and
 can not imagine when it would make it so --  the CBO
 vs. RBO is irrelevant
 in this case).
 
 Thus the question: did you collect the statistics on
 all your application
 tables prior to switching to CBO?
 
 If you did not have any statistics collected or had
 some tables that did
 not have statistics collected then Oracle may had
 been choosing wrong
 execution path.
 
 Thanks,
 Val Gamerman.
 
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2001 03:07:56 PM
 
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 Danny,
 Were you using histograms?   Histograms do not work
 on bind variables,
 they only work on literals.
 I'm sure others will have more to say on the topic
 but that is one tidbit
 that
 I do have experience with on bind variables.
 Cherie Machler
 Oracle DBA
 Gelco Information Network
 
 
 Danny
 Hughes[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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 I have a question about using bind variables.  It is
 my understanding that
 =
 bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL
 from being reparsed and
 =
 keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding*
 things up.  I also =
 understand that by using bind variables that the CBO
 will not be able to =
 optimally use the statistics to determine the most
 effective path to =
 retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use
 hints when you are using =
 bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take. 
 Other documentation =
 states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to
 use the RBO.
 After we looked at the library cache and saw
 thousands of copies of the =
 same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided
 to look into converting
 =
  certain web pages to bind variables.  After we
 converted to using bind =
 variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to
 load all of the sudden =
 took  2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged
 at 100% from 8-5 every
 =
 day while this application was being used.  We have
 converted back to =
 literals and the pages are loading quickly again. 
 While on bind variables,
 =
  we used every possible hint except RULE and had no
 luck.  We didn't want =
 to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle
 claims not to use the RBO =
 (because of no further enhancements and possibly
 phasing it out), and to =
 start using the CBO for everything.
 There are so many confusing documents regarding the
 use of bind variables.
 =
  I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing
 in regards to using =
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 from being

RE: Bind variables v. cursor_sharing = FORCE

2001-10-20 Thread Steve Adams

Hi Greg and list,

I'm not convinced of John's conclusion that 'cursor_sharing' = FORCE outperforms bind 
variables. Some months ago I tried
to reproduce John's results and was not able to, despite trying several different 
variations on the tests. Tom Kyte
claims that 'cursor_sharing' is about 10% more expensive. My results were between 10% 
and 30%.

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An excerpt from

PIRANHAS IN THE POOL,
SQL PERFORMANCE KILLERS
Investigating the effects of literal SQL on Oracle performance

John Beresniewicz
Precise Software Solutio

--
Effect of CURSOR_SHARING
A primary purpose of the 8.1.6 testing was to assess the impact the new CURSOR_SHARING 
system parameter and its
potential for helping DBAs manage ill-behaved applications with high parse rates of 
literal SQL.  Comparing Test 1 to
Test 3 and also Test 0 to Test 4 serves this goal.
Comparing these Test results, CURSOR_SHARING exhibits advantages similar to those 
obtained using bind variables in Test
2:
-- Reduced library cache impact.
-- Negligible shared pool activity.
-- Reduced CPU demands.
In fact, Test 3 produced the best elapsed time of all tests in spite of the fact that 
all the SQL was literal.  Thus, it
is clear that CURSOR_SHARING can be used to greatly enhance performance of 
applications that produce high volume literal
SQL and thus is a great advantage for the DBA saddled with such applications.
CURSOR_SHARING vs. Bind Variables
Comparing Test 2 and Test 3 reveals that CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE showed significantly 
better performance than bind
variables in both elapsed time and reduced library cache latching impact.  This 
surprising result deserves further
investigation to produce an adequate explanation.  Library cache latch impact was 
significantly reduced as well as
shared pool pins and releases. Parsing CPU time increased some but overall CPU was 
reduced. Perhaps the additional
parsing involved in forced cursor sharing also enables increased sharing of shared 
pool memory heaps.

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RE: Bind Variables

2001-10-20 Thread Danny Hughes

I have always used the CBO and statistics are generated fairly regularly.  I use the 
analyze table estimate statistics which should not generate histogram information.  I 
have even used the INDEX, FIRST_ROWS, and ALL_ROWS hints.  None made a difference.  I 
regenerated the statistics on all tables of a particular slow query with bind 
variables and it didn't make a difference either.  Our platform is red hat linux 6.2 
and oracle 8.1.7. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/19/01 18:58 PM 
I have heard of it.  Its a concern.  However, with hints you can
solve some of your problems.  And then you could use Stored Outlines
and get it stable.  And then life will be groovy.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L





Danny,

It sounds like when you ...moved to bind variables... you did two things:
1. Switched to using CBO
2. Changed your application to take advantage of the bind variables.

I have never heard of switching to bind variables making things slower (and
can not imagine when it would make it so --  the CBO vs. RBO is irrelevant
in this case).

Thus the question: did you collect the statistics on all your application
tables prior to switching to CBO?

If you did not have any statistics collected or had some tables that did
not have statistics collected then Oracle may had been choosing wrong
execution path.

Thanks,
Val Gamerman.




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Danny,
Were you using histograms?   Histograms do not work on bind variables,
they only work on literals.
I'm sure others will have more to say on the topic but that is one tidbit
that
I do have experience with on bind variables.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
After we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of the =
same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into converting
=
 certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to using bind =
variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to load all of the sudden =
took  2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at 100% from 8-5 every
=
day while this application was being used.  We have converted back to =
literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While on bind variables,
=
 we used every possible hint except RULE and had no luck.  We didn't want =
to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle claims not to use the RBO =
(because of no further enhancements and possibly phasing it out), and to =
start using the CBO for everything.
There are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind variables.
=
 I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing in regards to using =
bind variables and what their experiences are.
TIA
Danny Hughes
DBA
Knobias.com
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=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
br
brAfter we looked

Bind Variables

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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that =
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and =
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.

After we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of the =
same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into converting=
 certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to using bind =
variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to load all of the sudden =
took  2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at 100% from 8-5 every =
day while this application was being used.  We have converted back to =
literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While on bind variables,=
 we used every possible hint except RULE and had no luck.  We didn't want =
to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle claims not to use the RBO =
(because of no further enhancements and possibly phasing it out), and to =
start using the CBO for everything.

There are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind variables. =
 I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing in regards to using =
bind variables and what their experiences are.

TIA

Danny Hughes
DBA
Knobias.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that =
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and =
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
br
brAfter we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of =
the same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into =
converting certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to =
using bind variables, the pages that once took lt; 5 seconds to load all =
of the sudden took gt; 2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at =
100% from 8-5 every day while this application was being used.  We have =
converted back to literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While =
on bind variables, we used every possible hint except RULE and had no =
luck.  We didn't want to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle =
claims not to use the RBO (because of no further enhancements and possibly =
phasing it out), and to start using the CBO for everything.
br
brThere are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind =
variables.  I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing in regards =
to using bind variables and what their experiences are.
br
brTIA
br
brDanny Hughes
brDBA
brKnobias.com
br[EMAIL PROTECTED]
brwww.knobias.com
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Re: Bind Variables

2001-10-19 Thread Cherie_Machler


Danny,

Were you using histograms?   Histograms do not work on bind variables,
they only work on literals.

I'm sure others will have more to say on the topic but that is one tidbit
that
I do have experience with on bind variables.

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


   
  
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.

After we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of the =
same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into converting
=
 certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to using bind =
variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to load all of the sudden =
took  2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at 100% from 8-5 every
=
day while this application was being used.  We have converted back to =
literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While on bind variables,
=
 we used every possible hint except RULE and had no luck.  We didn't want =
to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle claims not to use the RBO =
(because of no further enhancements and possibly phasing it out), and to =
start using the CBO for everything.

There are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind variables.
=
 I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing in regards to using =
bind variables and what their experiences are.

TIA

Danny Hughes
DBA
Knobias.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.knobias.com

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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
br
brAfter we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of =
the same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into =
converting certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to =
using bind variables, the pages that once took lt; 5 seconds to load all =
of the sudden took gt; 2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at =
100% from 8-5 every day while this application was being used.  We have =
converted back to literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While
=
on bind variables, we used every possible hint except RULE and had no =
luck.  We didn't want to resort

Re: Bind Variables

2001-10-19 Thread Val_Gamerman/Victoria_Financial . VICTORIA_FINANCIAL




Danny,

It sounds like when you ...moved to bind variables... you did two things:
1. Switched to using CBO
2. Changed your application to take advantage of the bind variables.

I have never heard of switching to bind variables making things slower (and
can not imagine when it would make it so --  the CBO vs. RBO is irrelevant
in this case).

Thus the question: did you collect the statistics on all your application
tables prior to switching to CBO?

If you did not have any statistics collected or had some tables that did
not have statistics collected then Oracle may had been choosing wrong
execution path.

Thanks,
Val Gamerman.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2001 03:07:56 PM

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cc:(bcc: Val Gamerman/Victoria Financial)






Danny,
Were you using histograms?   Histograms do not work on bind variables,
they only work on literals.
I'm sure others will have more to say on the topic but that is one tidbit
that
I do have experience with on bind variables.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
After we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of the =
same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into converting
=
 certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to using bind =
variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to load all of the sudden =
took  2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at 100% from 8-5 every
=
day while this application was being used.  We have converted back to =
literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While on bind variables,
=
 we used every possible hint except RULE and had no luck.  We didn't want =
to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle claims not to use the RBO =
(because of no further enhancements and possibly phasing it out), and to =
start using the CBO for everything.
There are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind variables.
=
 I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing in regards to using =
bind variables and what their experiences are.
TIA
Danny Hughes
DBA
Knobias.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.knobias.com
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
br
brAfter we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of =
the same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into =
converting certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to =
using bind variables, the pages that once took lt; 5 seconds to load all =
of the sudden took gt; 2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at =
100% from 8-5 every day while this application was being used.  We have =
converted back to literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While
=
on bind variables, we used every possible hint except RULE and had no =
luck.  We didn't want to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle =
claims not to use the RBO (because of no further enhancements and possibly
=
phasing it out), and to start using the CBO for everything.
br
brThere are so many

Re: Bind Variables

2001-10-19 Thread Val_Gamerman/Victoria_Financial . VICTORIA_FINANCIAL




Danny,

It sounds like when you ...moved to bind variables... you did two things:
1. Switched to using CBO
2. Changed your application to take advantage of the bind variables.

I have never heard of switching to bind variables making things slower (and
can not imagine when it would make it so --  the CBO vs. RBO is irrelevant
in this case).

Thus the question: did you collect the statistics on all your application
tables prior to switching to CBO?

If you did not have any statistics collected or had some tables that did
not have statistics collected then Oracle may had been choosing wrong
execution path.

Thanks,
Val Gamerman.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2001 03:07:56 PM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Val Gamerman/Victoria Financial)






Danny,
Were you using histograms?   Histograms do not work on bind variables,
they only work on literals.
I'm sure others will have more to say on the topic but that is one tidbit
that
I do have experience with on bind variables.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


Danny
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
After we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of the =
same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into converting
=
 certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to using bind =
variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to load all of the sudden =
took  2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at 100% from 8-5 every
=
day while this application was being used.  We have converted back to =
literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While on bind variables,
=
 we used every possible hint except RULE and had no luck.  We didn't want =
to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle claims not to use the RBO =
(because of no further enhancements and possibly phasing it out), and to =
start using the CBO for everything.
There are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind variables.
=
 I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing in regards to using =
bind variables and what their experiences are.
TIA
Danny Hughes
DBA
Knobias.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.knobias.com
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
br
brAfter we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of =
the same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into =
converting certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to =
using bind variables, the pages that once took lt; 5 seconds to load all =
of the sudden took gt; 2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at =
100% from 8-5 every day while this application was being used.  We have =
converted back to literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While
=
on bind variables, we used every possible hint except RULE and had no =
luck.  We didn't want to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle =
claims not to use the RBO (because of no further enhancements and possibly
=
phasing it out), and to start using the CBO for everything.
br
brThere are so many

Re: Bind Variables

2001-10-19 Thread Val_Gamerman/Victoria_Financial . VICTORIA_FINANCIAL




Danny,

It sounds like when you ...moved to bind variables... you did two things:
1. Switched to using CBO
2. Changed your application to take advantage of the bind variables.

I have never heard of switching to bind variables making things slower (and
can not imagine when it would make it so --  the CBO vs. RBO is irrelevant
in this case).

Thus the question: did you collect the statistics on all your application
tables prior to switching to CBO?

If you did not have any statistics collected or had some tables that did
not have statistics collected then Oracle may had been choosing wrong
execution path.

Thanks,
Val Gamerman.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2001 03:07:56 PM

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To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Val Gamerman/Victoria Financial)






Danny,
Were you using histograms?   Histograms do not work on bind variables,
they only work on literals.
I'm sure others will have more to say on the topic but that is one tidbit
that
I do have experience with on bind variables.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


Danny
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
After we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of the =
same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into converting
=
 certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to using bind =
variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to load all of the sudden =
took  2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at 100% from 8-5 every
=
day while this application was being used.  We have converted back to =
literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While on bind variables,
=
 we used every possible hint except RULE and had no luck.  We didn't want =
to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle claims not to use the RBO =
(because of no further enhancements and possibly phasing it out), and to =
start using the CBO for everything.
There are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind variables.
=
 I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing in regards to using =
bind variables and what their experiences are.
TIA
Danny Hughes
DBA
Knobias.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.knobias.com
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
br
brAfter we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of =
the same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into =
converting certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to =
using bind variables, the pages that once took lt; 5 seconds to load all =
of the sudden took gt; 2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at =
100% from 8-5 every day while this application was being used.  We have =
converted back to literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While
=
on bind variables, we used every possible hint except RULE and had no =
luck.  We didn't want to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle =
claims not to use the RBO (because of no further enhancements and possibly
=
phasing it out), and to start using the CBO for everything.
br
brThere are so many

RE: Bind Variables

2001-10-19 Thread Kimberly Smith

I have heard of it.  Its a concern.  However, with hints you can
solve some of your problems.  And then you could use Stored Outlines
and get it stable.  And then life will be groovy.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L





Danny,

It sounds like when you ...moved to bind variables... you did two things:
1. Switched to using CBO
2. Changed your application to take advantage of the bind variables.

I have never heard of switching to bind variables making things slower (and
can not imagine when it would make it so --  the CBO vs. RBO is irrelevant
in this case).

Thus the question: did you collect the statistics on all your application
tables prior to switching to CBO?

If you did not have any statistics collected or had some tables that did
not have statistics collected then Oracle may had been choosing wrong
execution path.

Thanks,
Val Gamerman.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2001 03:07:56 PM

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Danny,
Were you using histograms?   Histograms do not work on bind variables,
they only work on literals.
I'm sure others will have more to say on the topic but that is one tidbit
that
I do have experience with on bind variables.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


Danny
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
After we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of the =
same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into converting
=
 certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to using bind =
variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to load all of the sudden =
took  2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at 100% from 8-5 every
=
day while this application was being used.  We have converted back to =
literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While on bind variables,
=
 we used every possible hint except RULE and had no luck.  We didn't want =
to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle claims not to use the RBO =
(because of no further enhancements and possibly phasing it out), and to =
start using the CBO for everything.
There are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind variables.
=
 I wanted to see what the oracle community is doing in regards to using =
bind variables and what their experiences are.
TIA
Danny Hughes
DBA
Knobias.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.knobias.com
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
=
bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
br
brAfter we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of =
the same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into =
converting certain web pages to bind variables.  After we converted to =
using bind variables, the pages that once took lt; 5 seconds to load all =
of the sudden took gt; 2 minutes to load.  The db server was pegged at =
100% from 8-5 every day while this application was being used.  We have =
converted back to literals and the pages are loading quickly

Re: Bind Variables

2001-10-19 Thread Jared . Still



Danny,

Bind variables are nearly always better than literals in your SQL.

The one exception I can think of is if you are making using of histograms,
but those aren't often used in OLTP type apps.

Without sitting down and analyzing what was taking place, all anyone
can do is guess.  If you have a test box to do this on, then you can
analyze the before and after SQL, check v$systemevent, etc.

If you don't have a test box, you have a good reason to get one.

If your queries are returning in 2 second while parsing SQL, it should
be able to go significantly faster with bind variables, particularly
under load.

Literal SQL doesn't scale very well.

Jared




   
 
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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
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keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.

After we looked at the library cache and saw thousands of copies of the =
same sql, and hundreds of different sql, we decided to look into converting
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variables, the pages that once took  5 seconds to load all of the sudden =
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literals and the pages are loading quickly again.  While on bind variables,
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to resort to using the RULE hint because oracle claims not to use the RBO =
(because of no further enhancements and possibly phasing it out), and to =
start using the CBO for everything.

There are so many confusing documents regarding the use of bind variables.
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bind variables and what their experiences are.

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Knobias.com
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www.knobias.com

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I have a question about using bind variables.  It is my understanding that
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bind variables are to be used to keep the same SQL from being reparsed and
=
keeping multiple copies in the SGA, thus *speeding* things up.  I also =
understand that by using bind variables that the CBO will not be able to =
optimally use the statistics to determine the most effective path to =
retrieve data.  Some documentation states to use hints when you are using =
bind variables to tell the CBO which path to take.  Other documentation =
states that bind variables don't like the CBO and to use the RBO.
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converting certain web pages to bind variables.  After we

Re: Tracing a sql statement also to include bind variables

2001-09-26 Thread C.S.Venkata Subramanian

Dear List,
I couldn't find this
dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)
Platform WinNT Oracle 8.1.7
Pl let me know
venkat
--

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 03:05:19  
 Christian Trassens wrote:
Execute as sys or dba user the package
dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,12,'');

Or with oradebug:

oradebug setospid OSPID of the session and then 

oradebug event 10046 trace name context forever level
12

Or from the user:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context
forever, level 12';

Or with the package dbms_support:

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)

Regards.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 
 I have to trace a sql that a user generates. I also
 need the bind
 variables.
 
 Can somebody please enlighten me???
 
 
 TIA
 
 
 
 Jack
 

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RE: Tracing a sql statement also to include bind variables

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Leith

That is beacuase it is not DBMS_SUPPORT, it is DBMS_SYSTEM:

exec sys.dbms_system.set_sql_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE|FALSE);

HTH

Mark

-Original Message-
Subramanian
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 07:45
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dear List,
I couldn't find this
dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)
Platform WinNT Oracle 8.1.7
Pl let me know
venkat
--

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 03:05:19
 Christian Trassens wrote:
Execute as sys or dba user the package
dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,12,'');

Or with oradebug:

oradebug setospid OSPID of the session and then

oradebug event 10046 trace name context forever level
12

Or from the user:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context
forever, level 12';

Or with the package dbms_support:

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)

Regards.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi All,


 I have to trace a sql that a user generates. I also
 need the bind
 variables.

 Can somebody please enlighten me???


 TIA



 Jack


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RE: Tracing a sql statement also to include bind variables

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Leith

WOW!! What a typo!!

That should of course be *because*.. LOL..

Mark

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:45
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


That is beacuase it is not DBMS_SUPPORT, it is DBMS_SYSTEM:

exec sys.dbms_system.set_sql_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE|FALSE);

HTH

Mark

-Original Message-
Subramanian
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 07:45
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dear List,
I couldn't find this
dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)
Platform WinNT Oracle 8.1.7
Pl let me know
venkat
--

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 03:05:19
 Christian Trassens wrote:
Execute as sys or dba user the package
dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,12,'');

Or with oradebug:

oradebug setospid OSPID of the session and then

oradebug event 10046 trace name context forever level
12

Or from the user:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context
forever, level 12';

Or with the package dbms_support:

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)

Regards.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi All,


 I have to trace a sql that a user generates. I also
 need the bind
 variables.

 Can somebody please enlighten me???


 TIA



 Jack


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RE: Tracing a sql statement also to include bind variables

2001-09-26 Thread Christian Trassens

I think it comes with 8.0.4. I don't know exactly.
However I enclose it one copy.

Regards.


--- Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 WOW!! What a typo!!
 
 That should of course be *because*.. LOL..
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:45
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 That is beacuase it is not DBMS_SUPPORT, it is
 DBMS_SYSTEM:
 
 exec

sys.dbms_system.set_sql_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE|FALSE);
 
 HTH
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 Subramanian
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 07:45
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dear List,
 I couldn't find this

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)
 Platform WinNT Oracle 8.1.7
 Pl let me know
 venkat
 --
 
 On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 03:05:19
  Christian Trassens wrote:
 Execute as sys or dba user the package
 dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,12,'');
 
 Or with oradebug:
 
 oradebug setospid OSPID of the session and then
 
 oradebug event 10046 trace name context forever
 level
 12
 
 Or from the user:
 
 alter session set events '10046 trace name context
 forever, level 12';
 
 Or with the package dbms_support:
 

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)
 
 Regards.
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Hi All,
 
 
  I have to trace a sql that a user generates. I
 also
  need the bind
  variables.
 
  Can somebody please enlighten me???
 
 
  TIA
 
 
 
  Jack
 
 

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RE: Tracing a sql statement also to include bind variables

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Leith

You are right - DBMS_SUPPORT is for 7.something  8.0.5.

8i  uses DBMS_SYSTEM AFAIK.

List, please correct me if I'm wrong..

Mark

-Original Message-
Trassens
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 13:55
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I think it comes with 8.0.4. I don't know exactly.
However I enclose it one copy.

Regards.


--- Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 WOW!! What a typo!!

 That should of course be *because*.. LOL..

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:45
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 That is beacuase it is not DBMS_SUPPORT, it is
 DBMS_SYSTEM:

 exec

sys.dbms_system.set_sql_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE|FALSE);

 HTH

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 Subramanian
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 07:45
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Dear List,
 I couldn't find this

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)
 Platform WinNT Oracle 8.1.7
 Pl let me know
 venkat
 --

 On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 03:05:19
  Christian Trassens wrote:
 Execute as sys or dba user the package
 dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,12,'');
 
 Or with oradebug:
 
 oradebug setospid OSPID of the session and then
 
 oradebug event 10046 trace name context forever
 level
 12
 
 Or from the user:
 
 alter session set events '10046 trace name context
 forever, level 12';
 
 Or with the package dbms_support:
 

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)
 
 Regards.
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Hi All,
 
 
  I have to trace a sql that a user generates. I
 also
  need the bind
  variables.
 
  Can somebody please enlighten me???
 
 
  TIA
 
 
 
  Jack
 
 

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Tracing a sql statement also to include bind variables

2001-09-24 Thread nlzanen1



Hi All,


I have to trace a sql that a user generates. I also need the bind
variables.

Can somebody please enlighten me???


TIA



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Re: Tracing a sql statement also to include bind variables

2001-09-24 Thread Christian Trassens

Execute as sys or dba user the package
dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,12,'');

Or with oradebug:

oradebug setospid OSPID of the session and then 

oradebug event 10046 trace name context forever level
12

Or from the user:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context
forever, level 12';

Or with the package dbms_support:

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)

Regards.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 
 I have to trace a sql that a user generates. I also
 need the bind
 variables.
 
 Can somebody please enlighten me???
 
 
 TIA
 
 
 
 Jack
 

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Re: Tracing a sql statement also to include bind variables/SOLVED

2001-09-24 Thread nlzanen1


Hi Christian,

Thx.

I studied the manuals this morning but the list was better once again

Jack




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Execute as sys or dba user the package
dbms_system.set_ev(sid,serial#,10046,12,'');

Or with oradebug:

oradebug setospid OSPID of the session and then

oradebug event 10046 trace name context forever level
12

Or from the user:

alter session set events '10046 trace name context
forever, level 12';

Or with the package dbms_support:

dbms_support.start_trace_in_session(sid,serial#,TRUE,TRUE)

Regards.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi All,


 I have to trace a sql that a user generates. I also
 need the bind
 variables.

 Can somebody please enlighten me???


 TIA



 Jack


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latch free waits on LIBRARY CACHE latch and bind variables

2001-07-25 Thread John Dunn

Can someone please explain how to monitor latch free waits on LIBRARY cache
and provide examples of using bind variables. THE PL/SQL reference does not
seem to make much reference to bind varaiables

John


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