RE: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-30 Thread Diana_Duncan


Sure, and thanks.  I appreciate the corrections, as one problem with doing
this for a while is the aggregation of useless and no longer true "facts",
which I'm finding I have more and more of.  They feel like barnacles.  :)

I've finally decided to go get my OCP, which I hope will help scrape some
of the buggers off.  This list always helps, too.

Diana Duncan
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Diana,

You might wanna check out www.kx.com   Those guys have
a lightning rocket of a dbms, and it is based, in part,
on storing data in search/sort-dependent order. (There is
a bunch of background data on the site itself.)

In any case, reading up on other dbms technologies has
a place in any DBAs self-education. Else, we're just
sitting around quoting anecdotes to one another!

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

Ross

|| -Original Message-
|| From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:10 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: Creating a sorted table
||
||
|| This is totally NOT accurate.
||
|| Yes there are performance gains storing index data ordered.
|| Perhaps great
|| on range scans.  Yes you can reorder tables and indexes.
||
|| "Walking on water and developing software from a
|| specification are easy if
|| both are frozen."
||
|| Christopher R. Spence
|| Oracle DBA
|| Fuelspot
||
||
||
|| -Original Message-
|| Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 7:41 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
||
|| Whyever would you want data inserted in order?  There is no
|| guarantee that
|| Oracle will actually store the records "in order", there is
|| no performance
|| gain, and you can always retrieve the records in order by
|| using an order by
|| statement -- if you really need ordered data, you could use a
|| index-organized table with all of your columns, with the
|| date as the first
|| column.  But methinks this would be dangerous for a heavy transaction
|| table.  (Gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong here)
||
|| However, if you are still keen, you could do this through a
|| PL/SQL block,
|| something like the following:
||
|| declare
||  cursor get_data is
||   select col1, col2, col3, ...
||   from unordered_table
||   order by whatever;
|| begin
||  for dataRec in get_data loop
||   insert into ordered_table (col1, col2, col3, ...)
||   values (dataRec.col1, dataRec.col2, dataRec.col3, ...)
||  end loop;
|| end;
|| /
||
|| Cheers!
||
|| Diana
||
||
||
||
||
|| "Browett, Darren"
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OT (everybody has a bad day once in a while...)/ RE: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-30 Thread Eric D. Pierce


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RE: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-30 Thread Mohan, Ross

Diana, 

You might wanna check out www.kx.com   Those guys have 
a lightning rocket of a dbms, and it is based, in part, 
on storing data in search/sort-dependent order. (There is
a bunch of background data on the site itself.)

In any case, reading up on other dbms technologies has
a place in any DBAs self-education. Else, we're just
sitting around quoting anecdotes to one another!

Hope this helps, 

Cheers, 

Ross

|| -Original Message-
|| From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:10 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: Creating a sorted table
|| 
|| 
|| This is totally NOT accurate.
|| 
|| Yes there are performance gains storing index data ordered.  
|| Perhaps great
|| on range scans.  Yes you can reorder tables and indexes.
|| 
|| "Walking on water and developing software from a 
|| specification are easy if
|| both are frozen."
|| 
|| Christopher R. Spence
|| Oracle DBA
|| Fuelspot 
|| 
|| 
|| 
|| -Original Message-
|| Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 7:41 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| 
|| 
|| 
|| Whyever would you want data inserted in order?  There is no 
|| guarantee that
|| Oracle will actually store the records "in order", there is 
|| no performance
|| gain, and you can always retrieve the records in order by 
|| using an order by
|| statement -- if you really need ordered data, you could use a
|| index-organized table with all of your columns, with the 
|| date as the first
|| column.  But methinks this would be dangerous for a heavy transaction
|| table.  (Gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong here)
|| 
|| However, if you are still keen, you could do this through a 
|| PL/SQL block,
|| something like the following:
|| 
|| declare
||  cursor get_data is
||   select col1, col2, col3, ...
||   from unordered_table
||   order by whatever;
|| begin
||  for dataRec in get_data loop
||   insert into ordered_table (col1, col2, col3, ...)
||   values (dataRec.col1, dataRec.col2, dataRec.col3, ...)
||  end loop;
|| end;
|| /
|| 
|| Cheers!
|| 
|| Diana
|| 
|| 
|| 
||  
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|| We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be inserted into a
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|| order of the date that the transaction took place.
|| 
|| Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT . ORDER BY."
|| or "CREATE TMP_TABLE  . AS SELECT . ORDER BY.."
|| 
|| Is there a method by which I can accomplish this.
|| 
|| Thank you in advance
|| 
|| Darren Browett
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RE: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-30 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: RE: Creating a sorted table



That 
is version specific, but you can use an index hint to do this in older 
versions.
 
"Walking on water and developing software from a 
specification are easy if both are frozen." 
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot 

  -Original Message-From: Vijay_Krishna 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:00 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Creating a sorted table
  Hi infact creating the table as sorted data from another 
  table works with oracle 8.1.6.3.0 as:   create table agrs as 
  select * from agreements order by agr_agreement_number desc; 
  Is this OK?? 
  Vijay 
  
-- From:   Connor McDonald[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Reply To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:   Monday, May 
28, 2001 4:05 PM To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: 
   Re: 
    Creating a sorted table 
There is a very good reason for having 
data "approximately" in physical order - 
it can dramatically improve your buffer 
hit rates. 
IOT's are great for this, but if you're on an 
earlier version then the occasional job 
to "pseudo-cluster" the data can be a 
very good thing... 
Cheers Connor 
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 
> Whyever would you want data inserted 
in order? > There is no guarantee 
that > Oracle will actually store the 
records "in order", > there is no 
performance > gain, and you can always 
retrieve the records in > order by 
using an order by > statement -- if 
you really need ordered data, you > 
could use a > index-organized table 
with all of your columns, with > the 
date as the first > column.  But 
methinks this would be dangerous for a > heavy transaction > 
table.  (Gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong here) > > However, if 
you are still keen, you could do this > through a PL/SQL block, > 
something like the following: > 
> declare >  cursor get_data is 
>   
select col1, col2, col3, ... >   from 
unordered_table >   
order by whatever; > begin 
>  for dataRec 
in get_data loop >   
insert into ordered_table (col1, col2, > col3, ...) >   
values (dataRec.col1, dataRec.col2, > 
dataRec.col3, ...) >  end loop; > end; > / 
> > 
Cheers! > > Diana > > > 
> 
> 
>  
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"Browett, 
Darren"   
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RE: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-30 Thread Christopher Spence

This is totally NOT accurate.

Yes there are performance gains storing index data ordered.  Perhaps great
on range scans.  Yes you can reorder tables and indexes.

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Fuelspot 



-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 7:41 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Whyever would you want data inserted in order?  There is no guarantee that
Oracle will actually store the records "in order", there is no performance
gain, and you can always retrieve the records in order by using an order by
statement -- if you really need ordered data, you could use a
index-organized table with all of your columns, with the date as the first
column.  But methinks this would be dangerous for a heavy transaction
table.  (Gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong here)

However, if you are still keen, you could do this through a PL/SQL block,
something like the following:

declare
 cursor get_data is
  select col1, col2, col3, ...
  from unordered_table
  order by whatever;
begin
 for dataRec in get_data loop
  insert into ordered_table (col1, col2, col3, ...)
  values (dataRec.col1, dataRec.col2, dataRec.col3, ...)
 end loop;
end;
/

Cheers!

Diana



 

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We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be inserted into a
transaction table in
order of the date that the transaction took place.

Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT . ORDER BY."
or "CREATE TMP_TABLE  . AS SELECT . ORDER BY.."

Is there a method by which I can accomplish this.

Thank you in advance

Darren Browett
Sys Admin
City of Coquitlam
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RE: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-29 Thread Vijay_Krishna
Title: RE: Creating a sorted table





Hi 
infact creating the table as sorted data from another table works with oracle 8.1.6.3.0 as:
 
create table agrs
as select * from agreements
order by agr_agreement_number desc;


Is this OK??


Vijay


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From:   Connor McDonald[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Monday, May 28, 2001 4:05 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:    Re: Creating a sorted table


There is a very good reason for having data
"approximately" in physical order - it can
dramatically improve your buffer hit rates.


IOT's are great for this, but if you're on an earlier
version then the occasional job to "pseudo-cluster"
the data can be a very good thing...


Cheers
Connor


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 
> Whyever would you want data inserted in order? 
> There is no guarantee that
> Oracle will actually store the records "in order",
> there is no performance
> gain, and you can always retrieve the records in
> order by using an order by
> statement -- if you really need ordered data, you
> could use a
> index-organized table with all of your columns, with
> the date as the first
> column.  But methinks this would be dangerous for a
> heavy transaction
> table.  (Gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong here)
> 
> However, if you are still keen, you could do this
> through a PL/SQL block,
> something like the following:
> 
> declare
>  cursor get_data is
>   select col1, col2, col3, ...
>   from unordered_table
>   order by whatever;
> begin
>  for dataRec in get_data loop
>   insert into ordered_table (col1, col2,
> col3, ...)
>   values (dataRec.col1, dataRec.col2,
> dataRec.col3, ...)
>  end loop;
> end;
> /
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Diana
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> "Browett, Darren"   
> 
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> We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be
> inserted into a
> transaction table in
> order of the date that the transaction took place.
> 
> Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT .
> ORDER BY."
> or "CREATE TMP_TABLE  . AS SELECT . ORDER
> BY.."
> 
> Is there a method by which I can accomplish this.
> 
> Thank you in advance
> 
> Darren Browett
> Sys Admin
> City of Coquitlam
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Re: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-28 Thread Connor McDonald

There is a very good reason for having data
"approximately" in physical order - it can
dramatically improve your buffer hit rates.

IOT's are great for this, but if you're on an earlier
version then the occasional job to "pseudo-cluster"
the data can be a very good thing...

Cheers
Connor

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 
> Whyever would you want data inserted in order? 
> There is no guarantee that
> Oracle will actually store the records "in order",
> there is no performance
> gain, and you can always retrieve the records in
> order by using an order by
> statement -- if you really need ordered data, you
> could use a
> index-organized table with all of your columns, with
> the date as the first
> column.  But methinks this would be dangerous for a
> heavy transaction
> table.  (Gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong here)
> 
> However, if you are still keen, you could do this
> through a PL/SQL block,
> something like the following:
> 
> declare
>  cursor get_data is
>   select col1, col2, col3, ...
>   from unordered_table
>   order by whatever;
> begin
>  for dataRec in get_data loop
>   insert into ordered_table (col1, col2,
> col3, ...)
>   values (dataRec.col1, dataRec.col2,
> dataRec.col3, ...)
>  end loop;
> end;
> /
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Diana
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> "Browett, Darren"   
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> 
> We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be
> inserted into a
> transaction table in
> order of the date that the transaction took place.
> 
> Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT .
> ORDER BY."
> or "CREATE TMP_TABLE  . AS SELECT . ORDER
> BY.."
> 
> Is there a method by which I can accomplish this.
> 
> Thank you in advance
> 
> Darren Browett
> Sys Admin
> City of Coquitlam
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Re: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-28 Thread Connor McDonald

Alternately on earlier versions where the order by
can't be used, is to select from the table in indexed
order using a hint...

hth
connor

--- Regina Harter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well,
it won't work in all cases, but I have on
> occasion used as a shortcut:
> 
> INSERT INTO ... SELECT DISTINCT transaction_date,
> ...
> 
> since the distinct will order it for you, beginning
> with the first item in 
> the select.
> A more reliable way would be to use pl/sql, select
> the ordered data into a 
> cursor, then insert one by one.
> 
> At 02:45 PM 5/25/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be
> inserted into a
> >transaction table in
> >order of the date that the transaction took place.
> >
> >Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT .
> ORDER BY."
> >or "CREATE TMP_TABLE  . AS SELECT . ORDER
> BY.."
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Re: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-25 Thread Regina Harter

Well, it won't work in all cases, but I have on occasion used as a shortcut:

INSERT INTO ... SELECT DISTINCT transaction_date, ...

since the distinct will order it for you, beginning with the first item in 
the select.
A more reliable way would be to use pl/sql, select the ordered data into a 
cursor, then insert one by one.

At 02:45 PM 5/25/01 -0800, you wrote:
>We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be inserted into a
>transaction table in
>order of the date that the transaction took place.
>
>Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT . ORDER BY."
>or "CREATE TMP_TABLE  . AS SELECT . ORDER BY.."
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>Thank you in advance
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RE: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-25 Thread Hillman, Alex

Try insert ... select* from (select * from  order by
)

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We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be inserted into a
transaction table in
order of the date that the transaction took place.

Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT . ORDER BY."
or "CREATE TMP_TABLE  . AS SELECT . ORDER BY.."

Is there a method by which I can accomplish this.

Thank you in advance

Darren Browett
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Re: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-25 Thread Diana_Duncan


Whyever would you want data inserted in order?  There is no guarantee that
Oracle will actually store the records "in order", there is no performance
gain, and you can always retrieve the records in order by using an order by
statement -- if you really need ordered data, you could use a
index-organized table with all of your columns, with the date as the first
column.  But methinks this would be dangerous for a heavy transaction
table.  (Gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong here)

However, if you are still keen, you could do this through a PL/SQL block,
something like the following:

declare
 cursor get_data is
  select col1, col2, col3, ...
  from unordered_table
  order by whatever;
begin
 for dataRec in get_data loop
  insert into ordered_table (col1, col2, col3, ...)
  values (dataRec.col1, dataRec.col2, dataRec.col3, ...)
 end loop;
end;
/

Cheers!

Diana



   

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We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be inserted into a
transaction table in
order of the date that the transaction took place.

Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT . ORDER BY."
or "CREATE TMP_TABLE  . AS SELECT . ORDER BY.."

Is there a method by which I can accomplish this.

Thank you in advance

Darren Browett
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Creating a sorted table

2001-05-25 Thread Browett, Darren

We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be inserted into a
transaction table in
order of the date that the transaction took place.

Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT . ORDER BY."
or "CREATE TMP_TABLE  . AS SELECT . ORDER BY.."

Is there a method by which I can accomplish this.

Thank you in advance

Darren Browett
Sys Admin
City of Coquitlam
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