RE: HP-UX Oracle Install
Does this prevent deletions of the files or rebooting or unmounting the file system ? No. What it does do is stop people from being able to specifically delete the file without wildcards. Some shops are good about not deleting with wildcards. And then there's the rest of the world. HTH, Bambi. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bellows, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: HP-UX Oracle Install
Deleting with wildcards was a lesson I learned the hard way. try this:rm *.txt and be a little slow letting go of the shift key. it becomes: rm *txt Not a pretty picture. And then there's the duhveloper ( not me this time ) that did this intentionally, as root, from root. chown myid:mygrp -R * AIX doesn't work to well after that. Jared PS. This has been a few years ago. ;) Bellows, Bambi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/01/02 10:58 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: HP-UX Oracle Install Does this prevent deletions of the files or rebooting or unmounting the file system ? No. What it does do is stop people from being able to specifically delete the file without wildcards. Some shops are good about not deleting with wildcards. And then there's the rest of the world. HTH, Bambi. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bellows, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: HP-UX Oracle Install
Thanks for your information Peter and Ayyappan. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2002 5:23 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: HP-UX Oracle InstallHi As long as you don't have issues with having data files mounted remotely ie you have a pretty robust network between the server this shouldn't be a problem just clearly mark/document the directories that you use on the server that you mount file systems from as sometimes clever sysadmins delete directories that they cant find owners of files. One issue that you can have a little problem but it is mostly cosmetic and that is if you don't use common UID's in Unix. I always did consider remotely mounting datafiles as not a bright idea but apparently NFS 3 alleviates most of those concerns. Still you cant help someone rebooting the remote server. An old sys admin trick is to put a file named -i in the directory that you don't want touched. HTH --=Peter McLartyE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Technical Consultant WWW: http://www.mincom.comAPAC Technical Services Phone: +61 (0)7 3303 3461Brisbane, Australia Mobile: +61 (0)402 094 238 Facsimile: +61 (0)7 3303 3048=A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. - Walter Bagehot (1826-1877 British Economist)=Mincom "The People, The Experience, The Vision"= Sujatha Madan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/02/2002 12:13 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Fax to: Subject: HP-UX Oracle InstallHi,This may be more of a UNIX question, so please bear with me.We have a "test" server that has 1GB free space. We need to test our Oracleand application upgrade and there are no other servers other than this"test" server. Obviously there is not enough space.The powers above want to use two spare disks that are on our productionsystem. Unfortunately they are part of a disk array and we can't remove themseperately and install them onto the "test" system. So what they want is toremotely mount these partitions (which are from the production server) ontothe "test" system. That way I have more space and should be able to installOracle.Does anyone know if this would cause a problem when installing Oracle? Theproduction server already has two Oracle installations on seperatepartitions. Could there be a conflict?I have a feeling there won't be a problem, but I just wanted to make sure.ThanksSujatha--- Sujatha Madan Database Administrator Custom Management Centre Optus Business Operations 'yes' OPTUSPH # +61 2 9775 5316 Mobile # +61 402 354 347 FAX # +61 2 9775 5360 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB http://www.optusbusiness.com.au/ --- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Sujatha MadanINET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).-- This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this e-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by the Mincom Group of companies unless expressly stated otherwise.
Re: HP-UX Oracle Install
Can you explain the An old sys admin trick is to put a file named -i in the directory that you don't want touched. Does this prevent deletions of the files or rebooting or unmounting the file system ? Hemant K Chitale Principal DBA Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/02/2002 02:23 PM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: CHITALE Hemant Krishnarao/IT/CHRT/ST Group) Subject: Re: HP-UX Oracle Install Hi As long as you don't have issues with having data files mounted remotely ie you have a pretty robust network between the server this shouldn't be a problem just clearly mark/document the directories that you use on the server that you mount file systems from as sometimes clever sysadmins delete directories that they cant find owners of files. One issue that you can have a little problem but it is mostly cosmetic and that is if you don't use common UID's in Unix. I always did consider remotely mounting datafiles as not a bright idea but apparently NFS 3 alleviates most of those concerns. Still you cant help someone rebooting the remote server. An old sys admin trick is to put a file named -i in the directory that you don't want touched. HTH -- = Peter McLarty E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical ConsultantWWW: http://www.mincom.com APAC Technical Services Phone: +61 (0)7 3303 3461 Brisbane, AustraliaMobile: +61 (0)402 094 238 Facsimile: +61 (0)7 3303 3048 = A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. - Walter Bagehot (1826-1877 British Economist) = Mincom The People, The Experience, The Vision = Sujatha Madan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Multiple recipients Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 28/02/2002 12:13 PM Fax to: Please respond to ORACLE-L Subject:HP-UX Oracle Install Hi, This may be more of a UNIX question, so please bear with me. We have a test server that has 1GB free space. We need to test our Oracle and application upgrade and there are no other servers other than this test server. Obviously there is not enough space. The powers above want to use two spare disks that are on our production system. Unfortunately they are part of a disk array and we can't remove them seperately and install them onto the test system. So what they want is to remotely mount these partitions (which are from the production server) onto the test system. That way I have more space and should be able to install Oracle. Does anyone know if this would cause a problem when installing Oracle? The production server already has two Oracle installations on seperate partitions. Could there be a conflict? I have a feeling there won't be a problem, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks Sujatha --- Sujatha Madan Database
Re: HP-UX Oracle Install
The trick is that when you run commands on that directory you the directory list gets parsed in such a way so that the -i file is at the top of the list. rm sees this as a parameter and as such invokes the interactive option of rm you then get asked whether you want to delete each file you create the file with a path something like touch /test/-i will create a directory in the test directory. Its really only a block on rm * type behaviour It is a help in stopping your files from getting clobberd by enthusiastic SA's Cheers -- = Peter McLarty E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical ConsultantWWW: http://www.mincom.com APAC Technical Services Phone: +61 (0)7 3303 3461 Brisbane, AustraliaMobile: +61 (0)402 094 238 Facsimile: +61 (0)7 3303 3048 = A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. - Walter Bagehot (1826-1877 British Economist) = Mincom The People, The Experience, The Vision = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/03/2002 01:33 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Fax to: Subject:Re: HP-UX Oracle Install Can you explain the An old sys admin trick is to put a file named -i in the directory that you don't want touched. Does this prevent deletions of the files or rebooting or unmounting the file system ? Hemant K Chitale Principal DBA Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/02/2002 02:23 PM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: CHITALE Hemant Krishnarao/IT/CHRT/ST Group) Subject: Re: HP-UX Oracle Install Hi As long as you don't have issues with having data files mounted remotely ie you have a pretty robust network between the server this shouldn't be a problem just clearly mark/document the directories that you use on the server that you mount file systems from as sometimes clever sysadmins delete directories that they cant find owners of files. One issue that you can have a little problem but it is mostly cosmetic and that is if you don't use common UID's in Unix. I always did consider remotely mounting datafiles as not a bright idea but apparently NFS 3 alleviates most of those concerns. Still you cant help someone rebooting the remote server. An old sys admin trick is to put a file named -i in the directory that you don't want touched. HTH -- = Peter McLarty E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical ConsultantWWW: http://www.mincom.com APAC Technical Services Phone: +61 (0)7 3303 3461 Brisbane, AustraliaMobile: +61 (0)402 094 238 Facsimile: +61 (0)7 3303 3048 = A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. - Walter Bagehot (1826-1877 British Economist) = Mincom The People, The Experience, The Vision = Sujatha Madan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Multiple recipients Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 28/02/2002 12:13 PM Fax to: Please respond to ORACLE-L Subject:HP-UX Oracle Install Hi, This may be more of a UNIX question, so please bear with me. We have a test server that has 1GB free space. We need to test our Oracle and application upgrade and there are no other servers other than this test server. Obviously there is not enough space. The powers above want to use two spare disks that are on our production system. Unfortunately they are part of a disk array and we can't remove them seperately and install them onto the test system. So what they want is to remotely mount these partitions (which are from the production server) onto the test system. That way I have more space and should be able to install Oracle. Does anyone know if this would cause a problem when installing Oracle? The production server already has two Oracle installations on seperate partitions. Could there be a conflict? I have a feeling there won't be a problem, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks Sujatha --- Sujatha Madan Database Administrator Custom Management Centre Optus Business Operations 'yes' OPTUS PH # +61 2 9775 5316 Mobile # +61 402 354 347
HP-UX Oracle Install
Hi, This may be more of a UNIX question, so please bear with me. We have a test server that has 1GB free space. We need to test our Oracle and application upgrade and there are no other servers other than this test server. Obviously there is not enough space. The powers above want to use two spare disks that are on our production system. Unfortunately they are part of a disk array and we can't remove them seperately and install them onto the test system. So what they want is to remotely mount these partitions (which are from the production server) onto the test system. That way I have more space and should be able to install Oracle. Does anyone know if this would cause a problem when installing Oracle? The production server already has two Oracle installations on seperate partitions. Could there be a conflict? I have a feeling there won't be a problem, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks Sujatha --- Sujatha Madan Database Administrator Custom Management Centre Optus Business Operations 'yes' OPTUS PH # +61 2 9775 5316 Mobile # +61 402 354 347 FAX # +61 2 9775 5360 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB http://www.optusbusiness.com.au/ --- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Sujatha Madan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: HP-UX Oracle Install
Hi u can mount the NFS in the Unix machine and use the Spare disk. After mounting it u can install and do all the oracle stuff without any problems. Ayyappan.S DBA This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, printing, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it.
