How can I get my DB back if I lost one of my rollback segment (rb

2001-08-14 Thread Hermanto P

Hi gurus,
Recently, I have forgotten to backup one of rollback segment file
(rbs02.dbf).
When I want to restore..the db can not startup normally.
Anyone can give me advise..
Thanks in advance.

Warm regards,
Hermanto
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Re: How can I get my DB back if I lost one of my rollback segment (rb

2001-08-14 Thread Rukmini Devi

Hi ,
 Your problem should be more specific.
here I am giving 2 solutions. Pl. choose whichever is applicable.
I.
 1. comment the rollback segment in initsid.ora file.
 2. connect internal
 3. startup mount
 4. Create rollback segment rbs02 with datafile rbs02.dbf(same as your
earlier file)
5. alter database open
II.
1. comment the rillback segment in initsid.ora file.
2. startup the database
or explain your problem more clearly.

rukmini
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 Hi gurus,
 Recently, I have forgotten to backup one of rollback segment file
 (rbs02.dbf).
 When I want to restore..the db can not startup normally.
 Anyone can give me advise..
 Thanks in advance.

 Warm regards,
 Hermanto
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Re: How can I get my DB back if I lost one of my rollback segment (rb

2001-08-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Hermanto,

some more information would be helpful -- why are you restoring? are you 
restoring from a cold or hot backup?

if it was from a cold backup, you can comment out the rollback_segments 
parameter in the init.ora and start the database. Then I would drop the 
rollback tablespace and recreate it, with the rollback segments you want. 
Then change the init.ora and shutdown and restart the database

Rachel

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Subject: How can I get my DB back if I lost one of my rollback segment (rb
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:35:21 -0800

Hi gurus,
Recently, I have forgotten to backup one of rollback segment file
(rbs02.dbf).
When I want to restore..the db can not startup normally.
Anyone can give me advise..
Thanks in advance.

Warm regards,
Hermanto
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Re: How can I get my DB back if I lost one of my rollback segment (rb

2001-08-14 Thread Jared Still


You 'forgot' to backup a file?

How are you taking backups?

If a manual process. you should automate this
before you forget to backup the SYSTEM tablespace.

Jared

On Tuesday 14 August 2001 01:35, Hermanto P wrote:
 Hi gurus,
 Recently, I have forgotten to backup one of rollback segment file
 (rbs02.dbf).
 When I want to restore..the db can not startup normally.
 Anyone can give me advise..
 Thanks in advance.

 Warm regards,
 Hermanto
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Re: How can I get my DB back if I lost one of my rollback segment (rb

2001-08-14 Thread Riyaj_Shamsudeen

Hermanto
Rollback segment data files are *needed* for recovery. Rollback segments are the key component for consistent media/instance recovery. If you lose any of the rollback segment files and if any extents from that datafile are needed then the database can not do the recovery consistently and will give you errors. Is it the only data file associated with the rollback segment tablespace. If that is the case, there will be extents from the rollback segments. If there are no extents from the rollback segments then you could potentially offline drop the datafile, do the media recovery and do open resetlogs. What errors are you getting ? Stuck recovery ? Errors will tell you whether the recovery process is looking for rollback segments or the data file.
Please contact Oracle support if there are any rollback extents in this datafile. _offline_rollback_segments and _corrupted_rollback_segments parameters can be used to hard open the database. But DO expect data consistency errors. In fact, only thing you should do is open this way, extract the data out and import in to a new database. Contact Oracle Support before you do this since there are serious consequences of doing this.

Thanks
Riyaj Re-yas Shamsudeen
Certified Oracle DBA
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Hi gurus,
Recently, I have forgotten to backup one of rollback segment file
(rbs02.dbf).
When I want to restore..the db can not startup normally.
Anyone can give me advise..
Thanks in advance.

Warm regards,
Hermanto
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Re: How can I get my DB back if I lost one of my rollback segment (rb

2001-08-14 Thread Riyaj_Shamsudeen

Hi
Recovery process will read from undo$ table to identify all the rollback segments that were online. Even if you comment out the rollback segments from the init file, still Oracle knows what rollback segments were online from the undo$ table. If i remember correctly, after reading the undo$ table, the process will read at least the rollback segment header and then only it proceed to open the database. If that rollback segment is not available, then you will not be able to open the database without using the underscore parameters.
IMHO, Oracle support need to be contacted for further resolution..
Thanks
Riyaj Re-yas Shamsudeen
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Hermanto,

some more information would be helpful -- why are you restoring? are you 
restoring from a cold or hot backup?

if it was from a cold backup, you can comment out the rollback_segments 
parameter in the init.ora and start the database. Then I would drop the 
rollback tablespace and recreate it, with the rollback segments you want. 
Then change the init.ora and shutdown and restart the database

Rachel

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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:35:21 -0800

Hi gurus,
Recently, I have forgotten to backup one of rollback segment file
(rbs02.dbf).
When I want to restore..the db can not startup normally.
Anyone can give me advise..
Thanks in advance.

Warm regards,
Hermanto
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