Re: I need to change the instance name (to Dennis)
Yechiel : I will take a look at options. Well, for use replication i need to set some parameters, right? So, I didn't do it. It means that i don't use replication. but i will check others otpions. Thanks Regards Eriovaldo - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:48 AM I looked at 9i options and I see that replication is not available with SE, only with EE. So, if you use replication you can not downgrade to SE from EE. ( replication is just an example). So you need to take a good look on the options difference between SE and EE to make sure you CAN downgrade. 9i option link: http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/database/oracle9i/index.html?packagingandopt ions.html Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:28 PM Yeachiel : We have 8.1.7 EE. Regards Cópia Yechiel Adar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 8.1.6 SE or EE ? I meant that there are differences inside the same version between SE and EE. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:38 AM I am almost 100% sure. Because i have the application also running in the 8.1.6. Thanks Friends Eriovaldo - Original Message - -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). - Esta mensagem foi enviada por Siteplanet WebMail. http://webmail.siteplanet.com.br -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eriovaldo Andrietta INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: I need to change the instance name (to Dennis)
Dennis : Thanks for your answer. Well, I need to downgrade my database, changing EE for SE, so ... The most problem is that the v$instance is used in the aplication. I saw in the metalink a document that helps to change the db_name and not the instance_name, understand.. so ... I thought to create the new one, with the new name and migrate to it and after it to change the name to the old one... Like that, i shouldn't change the application . But i hope that the best way is : Deinstall and install the new version. And to migrate it fully. Right ? Regards Eriovaldo - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:53 AM Eriovaldo - Often the lot of a DBA is to balance value and risk. Here, you must ask yourself - what is the value of retaining the same instance name, and what are the risks to my production environment? If you perceive the value to be high and the risks low, then go for it. But often (especially after you've been stung a few times) it seems that the value wasn't so great after all. How long can you have your production site down? What happens if something goes wrong and you have them down quite a bit longer than you estimated? You can lower the risk to your production site by creating the new instance (different name), and getting it all prepared before you take the production site down for the export. If most of your users access the instance via SQL*Net (Net8), you can put an alias there, so they don't have to change a thing. Of course, if your boss says do it or else, then the value/risk equation changes dramatically. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:18 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Actualy, I am confused, because this is my production environment and I need to get sucess in this operation. It is necessary, and i would like to keep the old name of instance, because i will change the BD version. I think the best way is : 1.) backup the software and datafiles 2.) Export all the database 3.) Deinstanll the old software 4.) Install the new version 5.) Create the instance with the old name 6.) Import the database but it will take a while. I am looking for a fast way , Understand ? Thanks Regards Eriovaldo - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:03 PM Its actually the easiest part. However, I don't want to miss a step so you best running off to Metalink. They actually have a note out there on how to do it. Not quite up to date for 9i but close. You need to shutdown your database, change your oracle sid, rename your init, if using an i version change the instance name and if desired the service name. Hum, me thinks that's it. I may be missing something though. I feel like I am missing something. However, the moral of the story is that its quite easy and I have done it a couple of times. You need to make a decision on what to do with your directories structures if you are using the $ORACLE_BASE/admin/sid structure. There is no technical reason to change it except for your own sanity. -Original Message- Andrietta Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Friends : I need to change the instance name. For example it is : DEVELOP and I need to put DEVELOPER. I know how to change the database name , but not the instance name .. Any idea ? Regards Eriovaldo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eriovaldo Andrietta INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other
Re: I need to change the instance name (to Dennis)
Right BUT: make sure you do not use any option that does not exist in the standard edition but existed in the enterprise edition. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:18 PM Dennis : Thanks for your answer. Well, I need to downgrade my database, changing EE for SE, so ... The most problem is that the v$instance is used in the aplication. I saw in the metalink a document that helps to change the db_name and not the instance_name, understand.. so ... I thought to create the new one, with the new name and migrate to it and after it to change the name to the old one... Like that, i shouldn't change the application . But i hope that the best way is : Deinstall and install the new version. And to migrate it fully. Right ? Regards Eriovaldo - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:53 AM Eriovaldo - Often the lot of a DBA is to balance value and risk. Here, you must ask yourself - what is the value of retaining the same instance name, and what are the risks to my production environment? If you perceive the value to be high and the risks low, then go for it. But often (especially after you've been stung a few times) it seems that the value wasn't so great after all. How long can you have your production site down? What happens if something goes wrong and you have them down quite a bit longer than you estimated? You can lower the risk to your production site by creating the new instance (different name), and getting it all prepared before you take the production site down for the export. If most of your users access the instance via SQL*Net (Net8), you can put an alias there, so they don't have to change a thing. Of course, if your boss says do it or else, then the value/risk equation changes dramatically. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:18 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Actualy, I am confused, because this is my production environment and I need to get sucess in this operation. It is necessary, and i would like to keep the old name of instance, because i will change the BD version. I think the best way is : 1.) backup the software and datafiles 2.) Export all the database 3.) Deinstanll the old software 4.) Install the new version 5.) Create the instance with the old name 6.) Import the database but it will take a while. I am looking for a fast way , Understand ? Thanks Regards Eriovaldo - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:03 PM Its actually the easiest part. However, I don't want to miss a step so you best running off to Metalink. They actually have a note out there on how to do it. Not quite up to date for 9i but close. You need to shutdown your database, change your oracle sid, rename your init, if using an i version change the instance name and if desired the service name. Hum, me thinks that's it. I may be missing something though. I feel like I am missing something. However, the moral of the story is that its quite easy and I have done it a couple of times. You need to make a decision on what to do with your directories structures if you are using the $ORACLE_BASE/admin/sid structure. There is no technical reason to change it except for your own sanity. -Original Message- Andrietta Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Friends : I need to change the instance name. For example it is : DEVELOP and I need to put DEVELOPER. I know how to change the database name , but not the instance name .. Any idea ? Regards Eriovaldo -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eriovaldo Andrietta INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California--
