Re: ORA-27100: shared memory realm already exists - status

2003-03-18 Thread Anjo Kolk
I found the hash function, but that is only one bit. The next problem is to
find the segments.
Come to Copenhagen in October and you will see ;-)

Anjo.

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> Well Anjo, what sort of hash?  I've been working to develop the stuff
> that Hailey talked about(direct SGA access) at Hotsos seminar but the
> best I've come up with so far has me sorting through all the shared
> memory segements seeing which one I can attach to.  This is not good.  I
> can get the id's through oradebug but I'm looking for a better way that
> is not indirectly dependant on connecting to the database.
>
> Allan
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> >> How did Oracle know that the "shared memory realm already exists"?
>
> Oracle knows this because it attaches to a segment based on the hash
> value of $ORACLE_HOME and $ORACLE_SID. In that segment the $ORACLE_HOME
> and $ORACLE_SID are stored, so that oracle can see to which instance
> they belong.
>
> Anjo.
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> > Thanks for all of the replies.
> >
> > I discovered that ipcs -mo will give me the number of
> > current processes connected to the memory segment.  The "dead"
> > segments left by the instance which was giving me problems all had 0
> > in that column.  The segment for the live instance had about 14
> > processes connected.
> >
> > I then used ipcrm -m  to delete the dead segments and
> > restarted the database.
> >
> > Now to figure out why the instance is failing to clean up these memory
>
> > segments.
> >
> > How did Oracle know that the "shared memory realm already exists"?
> >
> > Peter Schauss
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RE: ORA-27100: shared memory realm already exists - status

2003-03-18 Thread Nelson, Allan
Well Anjo, what sort of hash?  I've been working to develop the stuff
that Hailey talked about(direct SGA access) at Hotsos seminar but the
best I've come up with so far has me sorting through all the shared
memory segements seeing which one I can attach to.  This is not good.  I
can get the id's through oradebug but I'm looking for a better way that
is not indirectly dependant on connecting to the database.

Allan  

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>> How did Oracle know that the "shared memory realm already exists"?

Oracle knows this because it attaches to a segment based on the hash
value of $ORACLE_HOME and $ORACLE_SID. In that segment the $ORACLE_HOME
and $ORACLE_SID are stored, so that oracle can see to which instance
they belong.

Anjo.

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> Thanks for all of the replies.
>
> I discovered that ipcs -mo will give me the number of
> current processes connected to the memory segment.  The "dead" 
> segments left by the instance which was giving me problems all had 0 
> in that column.  The segment for the live instance had about 14 
> processes connected.
>
> I then used ipcrm -m  to delete the dead segments and 
> restarted the database.
>
> Now to figure out why the instance is failing to clean up these memory

> segments.
>
> How did Oracle know that the "shared memory realm already exists"?
>
> Peter Schauss
> Northrop Grumman Corporation
>
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Re: ORA-27100: shared memory realm already exists - status

2003-03-18 Thread Anjo Kolk

>> How did Oracle know that the "shared memory realm already exists"?

Oracle knows this because it attaches to a segment based on the hash value
of $ORACLE_HOME and $ORACLE_SID. In that segment the $ORACLE_HOME and
$ORACLE_SID are stored, so that oracle can see to which instance they
belong.

Anjo.

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> Thanks for all of the replies.
>
> I discovered that ipcs -mo will give me the number of
> current processes connected to the memory segment.  The
> "dead" segments left by the instance which was giving me problems
> all had 0 in that column.  The segment for the live instance
> had about 14 processes connected.
>
> I then used ipcrm -m  to delete the dead segments
> and restarted the database.
>
> Now to figure out why the instance is failing to clean up these
> memory segments.
>
> How did Oracle know that the "shared memory realm already exists"?
>
> Peter Schauss
> Northrop Grumman Corporation
>
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re: ORA-27100: shared memory realm already exists - status

2003-03-18 Thread Schauss, Peter
Thanks for all of the replies.

I discovered that ipcs -mo will give me the number of
current processes connected to the memory segment.  The
"dead" segments left by the instance which was giving me problems
all had 0 in that column.  The segment for the live instance
had about 14 processes connected.

I then used ipcrm -m  to delete the dead segments
and restarted the database.

Now to figure out why the instance is failing to clean up these
memory segments.

How did Oracle know that the "shared memory realm already exists"?

Peter Schauss
Northrop Grumman Corporation


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RE: ORA-27100: shared memory realm already exists

2003-03-17 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: ORA-27100: shared memory realm already exists





Firstly ,


make sure that when you shutdown, the database is actually shutdown ... my guess is the db isn't shutting down.


(Thanks to Kyle) use http://oraperf.sourceforge.net/SGA/sgaid.sh to see which shared memory segment is used by which instance.

Raj
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QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art !!



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Subject: ORA-27100: shared memory realm already exists



So my questions are:


1.  What is causing this problem and how can I prevent it?


2.  Is there any way I can tell for certain which segment is being used by
which instance?
(The other instance on the box is production and a mistake might cost me a
few friends.)


Thanks,
Peter Schauss
Northrop Grumman Corporation



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ORA-27100: shared memory realm already exists

2003-03-17 Thread Schauss, Peter
I am getting the message shown below when running the cron job
which restarts the database after shutdown for a cold backup:

SVRMGR> ORA-27100: shared memory realm already exists
IBM AIX RISC System/6000 Error: 17: File exists

Operating system is AIX 4.3
Oracle version is 8.1.7.

When I list my shared memory segments I get:

IPC status from /dev/mem as of Mon Mar 17 09:57:11 EST 2003
TID KEYMODE   OWNERGROUP   ATIMEDTIME
CTIME
Shared Memory:
m 0 0x5805091f --rw-rw-rw- root   system  6:31:15 no-entry
6:31:15
m 1 0x47041181 --rw-r--r--   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:20  6:32:20
6:32:20
m 2 0x58041181 --rw-r--r--   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:20  6:32:20
6:32:20
m 3 0x4d041181 --rw-r--r--   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:20  6:32:20
6:32:20
m 4 0x49041181 --rw-r--r--   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:20  6:32:20
6:32:20
m 5 0x50041181 --rw-r--r--   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:20  6:32:20
6:32:20
m 6 0x45041187 --rw-rw-rw-   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:24  6:32:25
6:32:23
m 7 0x43041187 --rw-rw-rw-   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:24  6:32:25
6:32:23
m 8 0x42041187 --rw-rw-rw-   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:24  6:32:25
6:32:23
m 9 0x41041187 --rw-rw-rw-   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:24  6:32:25
6:32:23
m10 0x44041187 --rw-rw-rw-   imnadm   imnadm  6:32:24  6:32:25
6:32:23
m   1048587 0x843c4ab5 --rw-r-   oracle oinstall  9:48:58  9:48:58
0:30:09
m131084 0x843c4ab6 --rw-r-   oracle oinstall  9:48:58  9:48:58
0:30:09
m   1441805 0x0003a68c --rw-r-   oracle oinstall  9:57:01  9:57:02
23:30:02
m262158 0x843c4ab4 --rw-r-   oracle oinstall  9:48:58  9:48:58
0:30:06
m15 0x0d052983 --rw-rw-rw- root   system  9:51:17  9:51:18
8:21:18

I have one other Oracle instance running on this box.  I believe 
this instance is using the segment with key = 0x0003a68c, based on the fact
that it's cron job restarts it at 23:30 while the other data base is
supposed to
restart at 0:30.

So my questions are:

1.  What is causing this problem and how can I prevent it?

2.  Is there any way I can tell for certain which segment is being used by
which instance?
(The other instance on the box is production and a mistake might cost me a
few friends.)

Thanks,
Peter Schauss
Northrop Grumman Corporation

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