OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld...
Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld... EPHRAIM SCHWARTZ "Wireless World" InfoWorld.com Thursday, July 5, 2001 REDUCING THE COST OF DBAS Posted at June 29, 2001 01:01 PM PST Pacific I'LL LEAVE IT to my readers to quantify the amount of time and money their companies would save if their DBAs (database administrators) could remotely, and wirelessly, make changes to their databases. Imagine the efficiencies in not having to call a DBA back to the office to add table space to a database, look at what indexes exist and modify table structures, give a new password to a user who has forgotten it, or remove from the database a user who is running a command that is holding up the system. You can accomplish these and many other corrective measures using the application PocketDBA, available from the company of the same name. I spoke with Ari Kaplan, CEO and co-founder of PocketDBA, in Chicago. His background includes 10 years at Oracle, where he oversaw the implementation of some of the largest Oracle database deployments in the world, such as Hallmark's Web site and Merck's entire order-entry and inventory system. Kaplan believes his company's wireless DBA package is more robust than Oracle's own desktop Enterprise Manager. PocketDBA, which can currently be implemented on a Palm OS device and will soon be available for Pocket PCs, will appear for Microsoft's SQL Server and IBM's DB2 next year. Go to http://www.pocketdba.com for a demo. Fed up with ActiveSync Remember two weeks ago when I said that I did not want work-arounds to my problem in which ActiveSync did not recognize the USB ports on three separate computers (see Wireless World, June 18)? Here's a typical example of the e-mails I've received that prove my point. "I had a similar but intermittent problem with my iPaq using ActiveSync on a Toshiba laptop," one reader wrote. "I installed the Compaq ROM BIOS update last month and haven't seen the problem since. "The update is Version 1.77, and you can download it from http://www.compaq.com/support/files/handhelds/us/download/9820.html. Also ActiveSync 3.1 (Build 9587) has some fixes for USB support. Build 9587 is available at http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/pocketpc/downloads/activesync.asp."; So what about the folks who can't complain in a public forum? Does anyone bother to tell them what build to use or where to download the correct BIOS version? Now I really want my money back. How about you? More on accidents and wireless alerts Despite the claim from automakers that batteries are rarely disabled in a collision, which they admit would disable the emergency wireless alert, I received numerous e-mails to the contrary. Read their views online. A few excerpts will suffice. "The sign pole went through the grill and neatly sliced off a lower corner of my 5-day-old battery." "Driving a '95 Porsche 911 Coupe, ... [the other] car hit me at a 90-degree angle. The impact cracked the battery case and cut off all electrical power to the car instantly." "A pickup made a left turn right in front of us. ...The battery [in our Saturn] was crushed." "In a low-speed collision, one of the battery cables fell into the path of the radiator fan. ... It was sheared in half." "Driving a Volvo station wagon, ... [the] impact crushed the front of the car. I remember being surprised how flat the battery was." Nuff said. Write to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ephraim Schwartz is an editor at large in InfoWorld's news department. Get this column free via e-mail each week. Sign up at http://www.iwsubscribe.com/newsletters. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MORE WIRELESS WORLD For a complete archive of his InfoWorld columns visit http://www2.infoworld.com/cgi/component/columnarchive.wbs?column=wireless INFOWORLD OPINIONS Weekly commentary from the most trusted voices in IT at: http://www.infoworld.com/community/t_opinions.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - QUOTE OF THE DAY: "UCITA (the Uniform Computer Information Transaction Act) has been stopped in its tracks, and there are signs that the damage it has already caused might yet be undone" --Ed Foster, crusading Gripe Line columnist, sees cause for hope. http://iwsun4.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/01/07/02/010702opfoster.xml?0705 thwi - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUBSCRIBE To subscribe to any of InfoWorld's e-mail newsletters, tell your friends and colleagues to go to: http://www.iwsubscribe.com/newsletters/ To subscribe to InfoWorld.com, or InfoWorld Print, or both, go to http://www.iwsubscribe.com UNSUBSCRIBE If you want to unsubscribe from InfoWorld's Newsletters, go to http://iwsubscribe.com/newsletters/unsubscribe/ CHANGE E-MAIL If you want to change the e-mail address where you are re
Re: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld...
If only it were this simple:
"..quantify the amount of time and money their companies would
save if their DBAs.could remotely...
remove from the database a user who is running a command that is
holding up the system."
David A. Barbour
Oracle DBA, OCP
AISD
512-414-1002
"Grabowy,
Chris" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: Ari and his company have
been noted in InfoWorld...
Sent by:
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Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld...
EPHRAIM SCHWARTZ "Wireless World" InfoWorld.com
Thursday, July 5, 2001
REDUCING THE COST OF DBAS
Posted at June 29, 2001 01:01 PM PST Pacific
I'LL LEAVE IT to my readers to quantify the amount of
time and money their companies would save if their
DBAs (database administrators) could remotely, and
wirelessly, make changes to their databases. Imagine
the efficiencies in not having to call a DBA back to
the office to add table space to a database, look at
what indexes exist and modify table structures, give a
new password to a user who has forgotten it, or remove
from the database a user who is running a command that
is holding up the system.
You can accomplish these and many other corrective
measures using the application PocketDBA, available
from the company of the same name.
I spoke with Ari Kaplan, CEO and co-founder of
PocketDBA, in Chicago. His background includes 10
years at Oracle, where he oversaw the implementation
of some of the largest Oracle database deployments in
the world, such as Hallmark's Web site and Merck's
entire order-entry and inventory system. Kaplan
believes his company's wireless DBA package is more
robust than Oracle's own desktop Enterprise Manager.
PocketDBA, which can currently be implemented on a Palm
OS device and will soon be available for Pocket PCs,
will appear for Microsoft's SQL Server and IBM's DB2
next year.
Go to http://www.pocketdba.com for a demo.
Fed up with ActiveSync
Remember two weeks ago when I said that I did not want
work-arounds to my problem in which ActiveSync did not
recognize the USB ports on three separate computers
(see Wireless World, June 18)? Here's a typical
example of the e-mails I've received that prove my point.
"I had a similar but intermittent problem with my iPaq
using ActiveSync on a Toshiba laptop," one reader
wrote. "I installed the Compaq ROM BIOS update last
month and haven't seen the problem since.
"The update is Version 1.77, and you can download it from
http://www.compaq.com/support/files/handhelds/us/download/9820.html.
Also ActiveSync 3.1 (Build 9587) has some fixes for USB
support. Build 9587 is available at
http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/pocketpc/downloads/activesync.asp.";
So what about the folks who can't complain in a public
forum? Does anyone bother to tell them what build to
use or where to download the correct BIOS version? Now
I really want my money back. How about you?
More on accidents and wireless alerts
Despite the claim from automakers that batteries are
rarely disabled in a collision, which they admit would
disable the emergency wireless alert, I received
numerous e-mail
RE: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
I for one think Ari and his company need to be commended. In the future you and I will be capable of admin'ing and monitoring multiple databases via handhelds. Larger consulting companies will likely have teams of DBA's that are responsible for large pools of databases. New databases will be added to the monitoring pools within minutes. Ari is breaking the ground for the future. When faced with any technology and attempting to figure out where it is going to go think Matrix or Star Trek. Sure these types of things are a long way off but it is the way things will go. Database administrators will eventually go the way of train conductors. The DBA for the year 2010 will not at all resemble the DBA of 2001. - Ethan Post - http://www.geocities.com/epost1 -- This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Post, Ethan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
I wonder if a similar thought was echoed in 1991? Maybe all of the DBAs that were former DB2, etc DBAs could offer some war stories here. It's funny that databases have become more cumbersome to manage, not easier IMHO. DBAs have to understand more technologies that are outside the RDBMS box than ever before. Every time we get a new version it gets a little more complicated to manage. I suppose we should just put everything in autoextend mode, oversize the SGA and other memory structures and we would be able to manage 1000's of databases. Not likely now, or ever for that matter. All of the quick fixes leave out one particular fact: All databases are unique and have their share of unique problems. Thank goodness for that! I can't wait to take a vacation and recover a standby database while adrift on the ocean. It gives "Cast Away" a whole new meaning! :)) --Michael -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I for one think Ari and his company need to be commended. In the future you and I will be capable of admin'ing and monitoring multiple databases via handhelds. Larger consulting companies will likely have teams of DBA's that are responsible for large pools of databases. New databases will be added to the monitoring pools within minutes. Ari is breaking the ground for the future. When faced with any technology and attempting to figure out where it is going to go think Matrix or Star Trek. Sure these types of things are a long way off but it is the way things will go. Database administrators will eventually go the way of train conductors. The DBA for the year 2010 will not at all resemble the DBA of 2001. - Ethan Post - http://www.geocities.com/epost1 -- This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Post, Ethan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jenkins, Michael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
Michael, No not all databases are the same but many are. DBA's as a whole are extremely inefficient. Most of us well know that we could automate much of what we do if we just sat down and thought about it for a second. I mean come on, why should a DBA have to actually check dozens of V$ views to "see" if anything is going wrong? Yes, I know that there is software out there that will do that but since many of us are still doing this sort of thing manually my point is made. At some point a typical installation is going to be fine to service 80% of all databases (the old rule of 80/20). These types of databases will not need a "live in" admin. They will run just fine with occasional servicing much like your car. I agree that there will always be a need for DBA's, and I agree that the knowledge a db will need to perform in the 20% of cases will increase. The development cycle seems to go like this: 1. New version of db released with new features, features are difficult to use. 2. Next version is released and new features have more power and easier to use, some more brand new features are included. 3. an so on and so on Everyone in the industry is working to make life simpler for the mass 80%. Plug the box in, install Oracle, set a few settings, plug in the storage device, sign up for a remote dba service and go Now it seems to me that this is the way it is going to be because: 1. It is technologically possible. 2. It is cheaper, faster, better. 3. More and more packaged applications running on databases. Now you might think that you will in ten years still be capable of convincing a your company that they can not live without a "real" DBA but I say there is already a whole industry working to convince them otherwise. In ten years they will cover a lot of ground. I'm sure we will see the database to dba ratio change significantly and that means more remote management, maybe still from an office, but more databases over wider areas. Talking to your database will be as easy as talking to someone on the phone. 555-shutdown abort. - Ethan Post - http://www.geocities.com/epost1 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I wonder if a similar thought was echoed in 1991? Maybe all of the DBAs that were former DB2, etc DBAs could offer some war stories here. It's funny that databases have become more cumbersome to manage, not easier IMHO. DBAs have to understand more technologies that are outside the RDBMS box than ever before. Every time we get a new version it gets a little more complicated to manage. I suppose we should just put everything in autoextend mode, oversize the SGA and other memory structures and we would be able to manage 1000's of databases. Not likely now, or ever for that matter. All of the quick fixes leave out one particular fact: All databases are unique and have their share of unique problems. Thank goodness for that! I can't wait to take a vacation and recover a standby database while adrift on the ocean. It gives "Cast Away" a whole new meaning! :)) --Michael -- This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Post, Ethan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
Ethan, Your scenario reminds me that I should have invested in paper company stocks when the paperless office was being theorized. Much of the "inefficiency" in which we indulge is due to extremely poor craftsmanship on the part of the people who produce packaged applications. When the applications mature, your scenario has a shot if we can change human nature. Most companies still shy away from outsourcing any of their critical apps. It's one of the problems ASP's are having. David A. Barbour Oracle DBA, OCP AISD 512-414-1002 "Post, Ethan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> m> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in root@fatcity.InfoWorld. com 07/05/2001 05:46 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Michael, No not all databases are the same but many are. DBA's as a whole are extremely inefficient. Most of us well know that we could automate much of what we do if we just sat down and thought about it for a second. I mean come on, why should a DBA have to actually check dozens of V$ views to "see" if anything is going wrong? Yes, I know that there is software out there that will do that but since many of us are still doing this sort of thing manually my point is made. At some point a typical installation is going to be fine to service 80% of all databases (the old rule of 80/20). These types of databases will not need a "live in" admin. They will run just fine with occasional servicing much like your car. I agree that there will always be a need for DBA's, and I agree that the knowledge a db will need to perform in the 20% of cases will increase. The development cycle seems to go like this: 1. New version of db released with new features, features are difficult to use. 2. Next version is released and new features have more power and easier to use, some more brand new features are included. 3. an so on and so on Everyone in the industry is working to make life simpler for the mass 80%. Plug the box in, install Oracle, set a few settings, plug in the storage device, sign up for a remote dba service and go Now it seems to me that this is the way it is going to be because: 1. It is technologically possible. 2. It is cheaper, faster, better. 3. More and more packaged applications running on databases. Now you might think that you will in ten years still be capable of convincing a your company that they can not live without a "real" DBA but I say there is already a whole industry working to convince them otherwise. In ten years they will cover a lot of ground. I'm sure we will see the database to dba ratio change significantly and that means more remote management, maybe still from an office, but more databases over wider areas. Talking to your database will be as easy as talking to someone on the phone. 555-shutdown abort. - Ethan Post - http://www.geocities.com/epost1 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I wonder if a similar thought was echoed in 1991? Maybe all of the DBAs that were former DB2, etc DBAs could offer some war stories here. It's funny that databases have become more cumbersome to manage, not easier IMHO. DBAs have to understand more technologies that are outside the RDBMS box than ever before. Every time we get a new version it gets a little more complicated to manage. I suppose we shou
RE: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
Actually, I have Ari's product. I have to admit, it is a pretty neat little tool. The idea is that you don't need to lug around a laptop with a wireless Ricochet modem. Yeah, that would be a much better combination, you could ultimately do more in a shorter amount of time. But, with my Palm VIIx and PocketDBA I can accomplish just about as much without having to get out of bed, turn on the computer, dial up, and then VPN or Pc Anywhere!! KK -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re[2]: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
Where I am the amount is zero as we all have remote access from home already.
What one can quantify is the amount of extra $ it costs for a VPN dial-up line
vs. the wireless connectivity this monster requires. Now that comes to
something (what I am not privy to), so good-bye PocketDBA.
Dick Goulet
Reply Separator
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7/5/2001 10:21 AM
If only it were this simple:
"..quantify the amount of time and money their companies would
save if their DBAs.could remotely...
remove from the database a user who is running a command that is
holding up the system."
David A. Barbour
Oracle DBA, OCP
AISD
512-414-1002
"Grabowy,
Chris" To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: Ari and his company
have been noted in InfoWorld...
Sent by:
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01:01 PM
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Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld...
EPHRAIM SCHWARTZ "Wireless World" InfoWorld.com
Thursday, July 5, 2001
REDUCING THE COST OF DBAS
Posted at June 29, 2001 01:01 PM PST Pacific
I'LL LEAVE IT to my readers to quantify the amount of
time and money their companies would save if their
DBAs (database administrators) could remotely, and
wirelessly, make changes to their databases. Imagine
the efficiencies in not having to call a DBA back to
the office to add table space to a database, look at
what indexes exist and modify table structures, give a
new password to a user who has forgotten it, or remove
from the database a user who is running a command that
is holding up the system.
You can accomplish these and many other corrective
measures using the application PocketDBA, available
from the company of the same name.
I spoke with Ari Kaplan, CEO and co-founder of
PocketDBA, in Chicago. His background includes 10
years at Oracle, where he oversaw the implementation
of some of the largest Oracle database deployments in
the world, such as Hallmark's Web site and Merck's
entire order-entry and inventory system. Kaplan
believes his company's wireless DBA package is more
robust than Oracle's own desktop Enterprise Manager.
PocketDBA, which can currently be implemented on a Palm
OS device and will soon be available for Pocket PCs,
will appear for Microsoft's SQL Server and IBM's DB2
next year.
Go to http://www.pocketdba.com for a demo.
Fed up with ActiveSync
Remember two weeks ago when I said that I did not want
work-arounds to my problem in which ActiveSync did not
recognize the USB ports on three separate computers
(see Wireless World, June 18)? Here's a typical
example of the e-mails I've received that prove my point.
"I had a similar but intermittent problem with my iPaq
using ActiveSync on a Toshiba laptop," one reader
wrote. "I installed the Compaq ROM BIOS update last
month and haven't seen the problem since.
"The update is Version 1.77, and you can download it from
http://www.compaq.com/support/files/handhelds/us/download/9820.html.
Also ActiveSync 3.1 (Build 9587) has some fixes for USB
support. Build 9587 is available at
http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/pocketpc/downloads/activesync.asp.";
So what about the fol
Re[4]: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
Thursday, July 05, 2001, 3:40:31 PM, Walt Weaver wrote: WW> Well, we have remote access from home too, but it might be convenient to be WW> able to do this stuff while I'm running from a grizzly in the Absarokas. I hope I never have the opportunity to run from a grizzly. I once bumped (not literally) into a black bear while hiking. Mr. Bear just ignored me, though I was pretty spooked by the encounter. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[2]: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
Well, we have remote access from home too, but it might be convenient to be able to do this stuff while I'm running from a grizzly in the Absarokas. That way I wouldn't have to hang around the house all weekend waiting for a call that might never come. Of course it's a moot point for us since (1) we're never on call here, and (2) there probably won't be wireless coverage in the Absarokas for another 200 years or so. --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana, USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:57 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where I am the amount is zero as we all have remote access from home already. What one can quantify is the amount of extra $ it costs for a VPN dial-up line vs. the wireless connectivity this monster requires. Now that comes to something (what I am not privy to), so good-bye PocketDBA. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/5/2001 10:21 AM If only it were this simple: "..quantify the amount of time and money their companies would save if their DBAs.could remotely... remove from the database a user who is running a command that is holding up the system." David A. Barbour Oracle DBA, OCP AISD 512-414-1002 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Weaver, Walt INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[2]: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
We did something similar to this 4 years ago using the 2 way pagers, email, home grown algorithm similar to secure key(give me a number and I'll check to see if it's the correct sequence), and a heck of a lot of PERL programming. So IF WE HAD COVERAGE on the 2-way pager(RIM pager using bellsouth's paging network)-it didn't require a lot of $$$. Shoot Walt-it may have had coverage in Absarokas ;-) Greg -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L InfoWorld. Well, we have remote access from home too, but it might be convenient to be able to do this stuff while I'm running from a grizzly in the Absarokas. That way I wouldn't have to hang around the house all weekend waiting for a call that might never come. Of course it's a moot point for us since (1) we're never on call here, and (2) there probably won't be wireless coverage in the Absarokas for another 200 years or so. --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana, USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:57 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where I am the amount is zero as we all have remote access from home already. What one can quantify is the amount of extra $ it costs for a VPN dial-up line vs. the wireless connectivity this monster requires. Now that comes to something (what I am not privy to), so good-bye PocketDBA. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/5/2001 10:21 AM If only it were this simple: "..quantify the amount of time and money their companies would save if their DBAs.could remotely... remove from the database a user who is running a command that is holding up the system." David A. Barbour Oracle DBA, OCP AISD 512-414-1002 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Weaver, Walt INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Loughmiller, Greg INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[2]: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld.
and 3) if you are working on that stuff while running from a grizzly you are either planning on getting killed or a REALLY fast runner able to concentrate on many things at once in the face of death >From: "Weaver, Walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Re[2]: OT: Ari and his company have been noted in InfoWorld. >Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 11:40:32 -0800 > >Well, we have remote access from home too, but it might be convenient to be >able to do this stuff while I'm running from a grizzly in the Absarokas. >That way I wouldn't have to hang around the house all weekend waiting for a >call that might never come. > >Of course it's a moot point for us since (1) we're never on call here, and >(2) there probably won't be wireless coverage in the Absarokas for another >200 years or so. > >--Walt Weaver > Bozeman, Montana, USA > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:57 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Where I am the amount is zero as we all have remote access from home >already. >What one can quantify is the amount of extra $ it costs for a VPN dial-up >line >vs. the wireless connectivity this monster requires. Now that comes to >something (what I am not privy to), so good-bye PocketDBA. > >Dick Goulet > >Reply Separator >Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: 7/5/2001 10:21 AM > > >If only it were this simple: > > "..quantify the amount of time and money their companies would >save if their DBAs.could remotely... > remove from the database a user who is running a command that is >holding up the system." > > >David A. Barbour >Oracle DBA, OCP >AISD >512-414-1002 >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Weaver, Walt > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
