RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
Antonio, There isn't one book that covers all those topics, and for good reason. If written properly -- lots of detailed information and scripts, and explanations of the scripts (so that you feel comfortable to modify them on your own) -- this book is thousands of pages. Unwritable, unreadable and unaffordable. BUT... much of this is covered either in books already in existence or in the process of being written. Rachel >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...' >Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 15:50:19 -0800 > > >Hi Jim, > >I have an idea for a book. I don´t know if it has been written before , but >I think that it would be very useful to a lot of people. > >Oracle High Availability: >- Recovery scenarios (The author could put scripts to backup archive logs , >tips about archiving , recovering , how Oracle process instance recovery , >case studies , etc...); >- Stand-by Databases (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...); >- OPS (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...); >- Replication (as a tool to keep another database in sync with production >databases); >- Hardware concepts (redundancy , RAID controllers , clusters , SANs , >etc...); >- Tips & Techniques for a 24 x 7 x 365 environment (administration , online >backups , archiving , change manegement , etc...); >- It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction about Oracle 9i >Real Application Clusters. > >Of course , someone would ask "Why don´t you write it yourself ??". > >1st : I have a 1-year old baby to take care , and I can´t let all the >duties ( and happiness :- ) to my wife; >2nd : I take care of 15 databases on my daily job and none of them is 24 x >7 x 365. So , I don´t feel comfortable to write about the matter; >3rd : My English isn´t good. > >If is there a book similar , sorry about the waste of time , and , please , >could you give me the name of this book ?? > >Regards, >Antonio Belloni > > > > >"Hawkins Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@fatcity.com on 09/06/2001 11:05:21 > >Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >cc: > > > >Yes, but this leads to virtual hang-over which is a very good thing... > >^ >Jim Hawkins >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. >501 Pearl Drive >St. Louis, MO 63376 >(636) 474-7832 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) >^ > >-Original Message- >Aschenbrenner >Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:33 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >I think I've had too many virtual beers. I'm getting a virtual buzz > >Alan > >-Original Message- >Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:46 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays. It helps me >out >of the daily drone mode... > >By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self! > >Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me! > >Jim > > > > > > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have > > had in days! > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! > > > > Jared ( still laughing ) > > > > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > > > > > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love >the > > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. > > > > > > Starring (not in order of importance): > > > *Larry Ellison as God > > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > > > compassionate heart) > > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between >Heaven > > > and Hell) > > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > > > > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built >a > > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > > > combination film? > > > > > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good >mood, >and > > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes > >typing > > > this email. > > > > > >
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
Hi Jim, I have an idea for a book. I don´t know if it has been written before , but I think that it would be very useful to a lot of people. Oracle High Availability: - Recovery scenarios (The author could put scripts to backup archive logs , tips about archiving , recovering , how Oracle process instance recovery , case studies , etc...); - Stand-by Databases (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...); - OPS (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...); - Replication (as a tool to keep another database in sync with production databases); - Hardware concepts (redundancy , RAID controllers , clusters , SANs , etc...); - Tips & Techniques for a 24 x 7 x 365 environment (administration , online backups , archiving , change manegement , etc...); - It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction about Oracle 9i Real Application Clusters. Of course , someone would ask "Why don´t you write it yourself ??". 1st : I have a 1-year old baby to take care , and I can´t let all the duties ( and happiness :- ) to my wife; 2nd : I take care of 15 databases on my daily job and none of them is 24 x 7 x 365. So , I don´t feel comfortable to write about the matter; 3rd : My English isn´t good. If is there a book similar , sorry about the waste of time , and , please , could you give me the name of this book ?? Regards, Antonio Belloni "Hawkins Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@fatcity.com on 09/06/2001 11:05:21 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Yes, but this leads to virtual hang-over which is a very good thing... ^ Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 501 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 63376 (636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) ^ -Original Message- Aschenbrenner Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think I've had too many virtual beers. I'm getting a virtual buzz Alan -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays. It helps me out of the daily drone mode... By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self! Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me! Jim > > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have > had in days! > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! > > Jared ( still laughing ) > > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. > > > > Starring (not in order of importance): > > *Larry Ellison as God > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > > compassionate heart) > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven > > and Hell) > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > > combination film? > > > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing > > this email. > > > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > > company. > > > > Jim > > -- Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 600 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 633376 9636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jim Hawkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alan Aschenbrenner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you wa
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
Jim, trust me, you'll need the alcohol to persuade the bad Rachel to come out. I hadn't realized Martin Sheen was drink during Apocalyse Now. New fact for the day. Rachel >From: "Hawkins Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...' >Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 06:05:22 -0800 > >Rachel, > >Well...umer..ah..maybe. > >You know, Martin Sheen was drunk during the filming of many scenes of >Apocalypse Now. I just thought I would follow Coppola's lead and get all >the actors/actresses drunk for a more free-flowing performance. > >Wait 'til I break out the virtual schnapps shots ;) > >Jim > >^ >Jim Hawkins >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. >501 Pearl Drive >St. Louis, MO 63376 >(636) 474-7832 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) >^ > >-Original Message- >Carmichael >Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:20 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Jim, > >Two rounds of Guiness? are you trying to get me drunk? :) > >Rachel > > > >From: "Jim Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...' > >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:46:11 -0800 > > > >Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays. It helps me >out > >of the daily drone mode... > > > >By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self! > > > >Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me! > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have > > > had in days! > > > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! > > > > > > Jared ( still laughing ) > > > > > > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love >the > > > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. > > > > > > > > Starring (not in order of importance): > > > > *Larry Ellison as God > > > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > > > > compassionate heart) > > > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > > > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between > >Heaven > > > > and Hell) > > > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > > > > > > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built >a > > > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > > > > combination film? > > > > > > > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good > >mood, > >and > > > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes > >typing > > > > this email. > > > > > > > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > > > > company. > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Jim Hawkins > >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator > >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. > >600 Pearl Drive > >St. Louis, MO 633376 > >9636) 474-7832 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Jim Hawkins > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >__
RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
Jim, Gulp! What have I gotten myself into? Okay, none of you will believe this but I'm shy and get stage fright. Stop laughing! It's true Two roles, twice as much to memorize but I get to bring out the best and worst in me. Rachel >From: "Hawkins Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..." >Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 05:50:19 -0800 > >Rachel, > >Well, I didn't want to suggest you be the "bad girl" type right off the >bat. >What we can do is have you play two parts in the movie, one the "good >angel" >and one the "dark angel". That way, you can really bring out the best of >both worlds. > >set director_talk on > >It's all about motivation. What motivates you? Yes, capture that and >don't >let go. > >set director_talk off > >Jim > >^ >Jim Hawkins >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. >501 Pearl Drive >St. Louis, MO 63376 >(636) 474-7832 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) >^ > >-Original Message- >Carmichael >Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:16 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Jim, > >I promise to come see that movie! "do-good angel caught between Heaven and >Hell" though? Darn it all, I thought I was more the "bad girl" type :) > >Rachel > > > >From: "Jim Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..." > >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:47:38 -0800 > > > >Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and I thank all > >those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely > >valuable to me (and others). > > > >Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I could not > >*happily* > >write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids under age 4), so > >I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's right, we're > >going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's Cannes Festival > >in > >southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk Oracle DBA's). > > > >"Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the > >Larry" > >directed by Jim Hawkins. > > > >Starring (not in order of importance): > >*Larry Ellison as God > >*Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > >compassionate > >heart) > >*Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > >*Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven > >and > >Hell) > >*Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > > >And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > >story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > >combination film? > > > >But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, >and > >have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes >typing > >this email. > > > >Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > >company. > > > >Jim > > > >-- > >Jim Hawkins > >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator > >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. > >600 Pearl Drive > >St. Louis, MO 633376 > >9636) 474-7832 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > > > > > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were > > > gross. > > > > > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. > > > > > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or > >Kevin > > > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... > > > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 > > > > > > > >On T
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
I'd forgotten all about thiswhat a delight to be reminded! -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 6/8/2001 7:27 PM Meet Ross and Mark (or other certifiable goofs) at the following for secret decoder ring training: http://images.burningman.com/gallery/bdamer.1524.jpg - http://images.burningman.com/gallery/quitob1.1435.jpg - http://www.burningman.com/first_timers/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
Rachel, Well...umer..ah..maybe. You know, Martin Sheen was drunk during the filming of many scenes of Apocalypse Now. I just thought I would follow Coppola's lead and get all the actors/actresses drunk for a more free-flowing performance. Wait 'til I break out the virtual schnapps shots ;) Jim ^ Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 501 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 63376 (636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) ^ -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jim, Two rounds of Guiness? are you trying to get me drunk? :) Rachel >From: "Jim Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...' >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:46:11 -0800 > >Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays. It helps me out >of the daily drone mode... > >By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self! > >Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me! > >Jim > > > > > > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have > > had in days! > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! > > > > Jared ( still laughing ) > > > > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > > > > > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the > > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. > > > > > > Starring (not in order of importance): > > > *Larry Ellison as God > > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > > > compassionate heart) > > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between >Heaven > > > and Hell) > > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > > > > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > > > combination film? > > > > > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good >mood, >and > > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes >typing > > > this email. > > > > > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > > > company. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > >-- >Jim Hawkins >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. >600 Pearl Drive >St. Louis, MO 633376 >9636) 474-7832 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Jim Hawkins > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hawkins Family INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
Yes, but this leads to virtual hang-over which is a very good thing... ^ Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 501 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 63376 (636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) ^ -Original Message- Aschenbrenner Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think I've had too many virtual beers. I'm getting a virtual buzz Alan -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays. It helps me out of the daily drone mode... By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self! Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me! Jim > > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have > had in days! > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! > > Jared ( still laughing ) > > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. > > > > Starring (not in order of importance): > > *Larry Ellison as God > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > > compassionate heart) > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven > > and Hell) > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > > combination film? > > > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing > > this email. > > > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > > company. > > > > Jim > > -- Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 600 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 633376 9636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jim Hawkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alan Aschenbrenner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hawkins Family INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
Rachel, Well, I didn't want to suggest you be the "bad girl" type right off the bat. What we can do is have you play two parts in the movie, one the "good angel" and one the "dark angel". That way, you can really bring out the best of both worlds. set director_talk on It's all about motivation. What motivates you? Yes, capture that and don't let go. set director_talk off Jim ^ Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 501 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 63376 (636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) ^ -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jim, I promise to come see that movie! "do-good angel caught between Heaven and Hell" though? Darn it all, I thought I was more the "bad girl" type :) Rachel >From: "Jim Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..." >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:47:38 -0800 > >Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and I thank all >those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely >valuable to me (and others). > >Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I could not >*happily* >write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids under age 4), so >I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's right, we're >going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's Cannes Festival >in >southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk Oracle DBA's). > >"Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the >Larry" >directed by Jim Hawkins. > >Starring (not in order of importance): >*Larry Ellison as God >*Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a >compassionate >heart) >*Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) >*Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven >and >Hell) >*Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > >And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a >story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning >combination film? > >But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and >have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing >this email. > >Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film >company. > >Jim > >-- >Jim Hawkins >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. >600 Pearl Drive >St. Louis, MO 633376 >9636) 474-7832 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > > > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were > > gross. > > > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. > > > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or >Kevin > > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. > > > > > > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... > > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 > > > > > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures. >ie; > > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around > > >$1,000, > > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances >involved. > > >Your > > > > mileage may vary, etc. > > > > > >100K?! > > > > > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is > > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site. > > > > > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell > > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will > > >gross $30K from the book. > > > > > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are co-authors, > > >you will split the proceeds. > > > > > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love. > > > > > >Ther
Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
Jim, Two rounds of Guiness? are you trying to get me drunk? :) Rachel >From: "Jim Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...' >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:46:11 -0800 > >Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays. It helps me out >of the daily drone mode... > >By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self! > >Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me! > >Jim > > > > > > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have > > had in days! > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! > > > > Jared ( still laughing ) > > > > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > > > > > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the > > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. > > > > > > Starring (not in order of importance): > > > *Larry Ellison as God > > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > > > compassionate heart) > > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between >Heaven > > > and Hell) > > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > > > > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > > > combination film? > > > > > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good >mood, >and > > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes >typing > > > this email. > > > > > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > > > company. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > >-- >Jim Hawkins >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. >600 Pearl Drive >St. Louis, MO 633376 >9636) 474-7832 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Jim Hawkins > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
I think I've had too many virtual beers. I'm getting a virtual buzz Alan -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays. It helps me out of the daily drone mode... By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self! Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me! Jim > > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have > had in days! > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! > > Jared ( still laughing ) > > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. > > > > Starring (not in order of importance): > > *Larry Ellison as God > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > > compassionate heart) > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven > > and Hell) > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > > combination film? > > > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing > > this email. > > > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > > company. > > > > Jim > > -- Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 600 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 633376 9636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jim Hawkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alan Aschenbrenner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
who gets to play the part of "ZOT"? :) > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
Meet Ross and Mark (or other certifiable goofs) at the following for secret decoder ring training: http://images.burningman.com/gallery/bdamer.1524.jpg - http://images.burningman.com/gallery/quitob1.1435.jpg - http://www.burningman.com/first_timers/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays. It helps me out of the daily drone mode... By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self! Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me! Jim > > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have > had in days! > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! > > Jared ( still laughing ) > > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. > > > > Starring (not in order of importance): > > *Larry Ellison as God > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > > compassionate heart) > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven > > and Hell) > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > > combination film? > > > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing > > this email. > > > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > > company. > > > > Jim > > -- Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 600 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 633376 9636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jim Hawkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
Eric as Corporate Philosopher - a Yoda type David A. Barbour Oracle DBA, OCP AISD 512-414-1002 "Jim Hawkins" mary.net>cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or root@fatcity.not)...' com 06/08/2001 12:07 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L set director_talk on Yes, yes. I can see this...panning camera...slowly rising...The Enforcer emerging from the crystal blue surf...I like it! We will adapt the film to this. Cut! Print! Where's my damn Grip? I need my coffee refilled! And who's responsible for the catering? set director_talk off > I want to see Bill Thater doing an Austin Powers shimmy > in the background, while dressed up in full combat scuba > gear. Can we get that in on the script rewrite? Can we? > Can we? Huh huh huh? > > || -Original Message- > || From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > || Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:21 PM > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > || Subject: RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it > || or not)..." > || > || > || How about the films theme song? > || > || I vote for "Database Writer" : sung to the tune the Beatles created. > || > || "database writer > || DATABASE WRIIITTERR > || DATTTAAABASE WRRRIIITEERRR" > || > || Dorothy > || > || P.S Can i get a part in my red shoes as a transvestite waitress or > || something? :) I'll even get a wig with bunches.. > || > || -Original Message- > || Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 04:48 > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > || > || > || Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and > || I thank all > || those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely > || valuable to me (and others). > || > || Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I > || could not *happily* > || write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids > || under age 4), so > || I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's > || right, we're > || going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's > || Cannes Festival in > || southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk > || Oracle DBA's). > || > || "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to > || Love the Larry" > || directed by Jim Hawkins. > || > || Starring (not in order of importance): > || *Larry Ellison as God > || *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with > || a compassionate > || heart) > || *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > || *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught > || between Heaven and > || Hell) > || *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > || > || And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > || story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > || combination film? > || > || But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a > || good mood, and > || have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 > || minutes typing > || this email. > || > || Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments
Re: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have had in days! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Jared ( still laughing ) On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote: > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. > > Starring (not in order of importance): > *Larry Ellison as God > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a > compassionate heart) > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven > and Hell) > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > combination film? > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing > this email. > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > company. > > Jim -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
Mark, I think you're beginning to enjoy this a little too much. ;) Jared On Friday 08 June 2001 09:21, Mark Leith wrote: > How about the films theme song? > > I vote for "Database Writer" : sung to the tune the Beatles created. > > "database writer > DATABASE WRIIITTERR > DATTTAAABASE WRRRIIITEERRR" > > Dorothy > > P.S Can i get a part in my red shoes as a transvestite waitress or > something? :) I'll even get a wig with bunches.. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
Jim, I promise to come see that movie! "do-good angel caught between Heaven and Hell" though? Darn it all, I thought I was more the "bad girl" type :) Rachel >From: "Jim Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..." >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:47:38 -0800 > >Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and I thank all >those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely >valuable to me (and others). > >Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I could not >*happily* >write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids under age 4), so >I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's right, we're >going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's Cannes Festival >in >southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk Oracle DBA's). > >"Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the >Larry" >directed by Jim Hawkins. > >Starring (not in order of importance): >*Larry Ellison as God >*Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a >compassionate >heart) >*Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) >*Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven >and >Hell) >*Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > >And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a >story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning >combination film? > >But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and >have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing >this email. > >Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film >company. > >Jim > >-- >Jim Hawkins >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. >600 Pearl Drive >St. Louis, MO 633376 >9636) 474-7832 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > > > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were > > gross. > > > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. > > > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or >Kevin > > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. > > > > > > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... > > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 > > > > > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures. >ie; > > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around > > >$1,000, > > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances >involved. > > >Your > > > > mileage may vary, etc. > > > > > >100K?! > > > > > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is > > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site. > > > > > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell > > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will > > >gross $30K from the book. > > > > > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are co-authors, > > >you will split the proceeds. > > > > > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love. > > > > > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but > > >not many tech books sell that well. > > > > > >Jared > > >-- > > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > >-- > > >Author: Jared Still > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > >the message BODY, include
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001,Jim Hawkins scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->You're in, but any kissing scenes are out of the question. This will be a ->family film aside from Ross' speedo-wearing cannibalism and Bill Thater's ->occasional dusting of a helpless developer. occasional? aw shucks.;-) "there's 50 ways to dust a devloper...";-) -- Bill "Shrek" Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Backup not found: A)bort, R)etry, M)assive heart failure? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->I want to see Bill Thater doing an Austin Powers shimmy ->in the background, while dressed up in full combat scuba ->gear. Can we get that in on the script rewrite? Can we? ->Can we? Huh huh huh? u actually i do a better uncle kraker: "you don't know how you found me and you don't know why you can't turn around and say good bye.";-) -- Bill "Shrek" Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Backup not found: A)bort, R)etry, M)assive heart failure? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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set director_talk on Yes, yes. I can see this...panning camera...slowly rising...The Enforcer emerging from the crystal blue surf...I like it! We will adapt the film to this. Cut! Print! Where's my damn Grip? I need my coffee refilled! And who's responsible for the catering? set director_talk off > I want to see Bill Thater doing an Austin Powers shimmy > in the background, while dressed up in full combat scuba > gear. Can we get that in on the script rewrite? Can we? > Can we? Huh huh huh? > > || -Original Message- > || From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > || Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:21 PM > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > || Subject: RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it > || or not)..." > || > || > || How about the films theme song? > || > || I vote for "Database Writer" : sung to the tune the Beatles created. > || > || "database writer > || DATABASE WRIIITTERR > || DATTTAAABASE WRRRIIITEERRR" > || > || Dorothy > || > || P.S Can i get a part in my red shoes as a transvestite waitress or > || something? :) I'll even get a wig with bunches.. > || > || -Original Message- > || Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 04:48 > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > || > || > || Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and > || I thank all > || those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely > || valuable to me (and others). > || > || Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I > || could not *happily* > || write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids > || under age 4), so > || I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's > || right, we're > || going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's > || Cannes Festival in > || southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk > || Oracle DBA's). > || > || "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to > || Love the Larry" > || directed by Jim Hawkins. > || > || Starring (not in order of importance): > || *Larry Ellison as God > || *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with > || a compassionate > || heart) > || *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > || *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught > || between Heaven and > || Hell) > || *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > || > || And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > || story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > || combination film? > || > || But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a > || good mood, and > || have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 > || minutes typing > || this email. > || > || Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > || company. > || > || Jim > || > || -- > || Jim Hawkins > || Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator > || MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. > || 600 Pearl Drive > || St. Louis, MO 633376 > || 9636) 474-7832 > || [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) > || [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > || > || > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really > || surprised if it were > || > gross. > || > > || > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. > || > > || > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven > || Feuerstein or > || Kevin > || > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. > || > > || > > || > > || > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > || > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > || > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > || > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... > || > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 > || > > > || > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > || > > > || > > > I think all the original poster was asking was > || ballpark figures. ie; > || > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect > || to make around > || > >$1,000, > || > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal > || finances involved. > || > >Your > || > > > mileage may vary, etc. > || > > > || > >100K?! > || > > > || > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is > || 10%, which is > || > >
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You're in, but any kissing scenes are out of the question. This will be a family film aside from Ross' speedo-wearing cannibalism and Bill Thater's occasional dusting of a helpless developer. As for the soundtrack, we'll put your song on as well. By the way, Larry E. called me from his yacht and really wants to add another character: Bill Gates as The Extortionist. I'm now taking bids on who gets to ax this guy in the movie... Jim > How about the films theme song? > > I vote for "Database Writer" : sung to the tune the Beatles created. > > "database writer > DATABASE WRIIITTERR > DATTTAAABASE WRRRIIITEERRR" > > Dorothy > > P.S Can i get a part in my red shoes as a transvestite waitress or > something? :) I'll even get a wig with bunches.. > > -Original Message- > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 04:48 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and I thank all > those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely > valuable to me (and others). > > Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I could not *happily* > write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids under age 4), so > I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's right, we're > going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's Cannes Festival in > southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk Oracle DBA's). > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the Larry" > directed by Jim Hawkins. > > Starring (not in order of importance): > *Larry Ellison as God > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a compassionate > heart) > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven and > Hell) > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning > combination film? > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing > this email. > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > company. > > Jim > > -- > Jim Hawkins > Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator > MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. > 600 Pearl Drive > St. Louis, MO 633376 > 9636) 474-7832 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > > > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were > > gross. > > > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. > > > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or > Kevin > > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. > > > > > > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... > > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 > > > > > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures. ie; > > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around > > >$1,000, > > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances involved. > > >Your > > > > mileage may vary, etc. > > > > > >100K?! > > > > > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is > > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site. > > > > > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell > > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will > > >gross $30K from the book. > > > > > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are co-authors, > > >you will split the proceeds. > > > > > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love. > > > > > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but > > >not many tech books sell that well. > > > > > >Jared > > >-- > > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > >-- > > >Author: Jared Still > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explor
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I want to see Bill Thater doing an Austin Powers shimmy in the background, while dressed up in full combat scuba gear. Can we get that in on the script rewrite? Can we? Can we? Huh huh huh? || -Original Message- || From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:21 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it || or not)..." || || || How about the films theme song? || || I vote for "Database Writer" : sung to the tune the Beatles created. || || "database writer || DATABASE WRIIITTERR || DATTTAAABASE WRRRIIITEERRR" || || Dorothy || || P.S Can i get a part in my red shoes as a transvestite waitress or || something? :) I'll even get a wig with bunches.. || || -Original Message- || Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 04:48 || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and || I thank all || those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely || valuable to me (and others). || || Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I || could not *happily* || write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids || under age 4), so || I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's || right, we're || going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's || Cannes Festival in || southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk || Oracle DBA's). || || "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to || Love the Larry" || directed by Jim Hawkins. || || Starring (not in order of importance): || *Larry Ellison as God || *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with || a compassionate || heart) || *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) || *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught || between Heaven and || Hell) || *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) || || And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a || story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning || combination film? || || But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a || good mood, and || have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 || minutes typing || this email. || || Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film || company. || || Jim || || -- || Jim Hawkins || Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator || MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. || 600 Pearl Drive || St. Louis, MO 633376 || 9636) 474-7832 || [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) || [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) || || > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really || surprised if it were || > gross. || > || > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. || > || > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven || Feuerstein or || Kevin || > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. || > || > || > || > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> || > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> || > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... || > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 || > > || > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: || > > || > > > I think all the original poster was asking was || ballpark figures. ie; || > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect || to make around || > >$1,000, || > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal || finances involved. || > >Your || > > > mileage may vary, etc. || > > || > >100K?! || > > || > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is || 10%, which is || > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site. || > > || > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell || > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will || > >gross $30K from the book. || > > || > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are || co-authors, || > >you will split the proceeds. || > > || > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love. || > > || > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but || > >not many tech books sell that well. || > > || > >Jared || > >-- || > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || > >-- || > >Author: Jared Still || > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || > > || > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || > >San Diego,
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. Guiness At 08:30 AM 6/8/01 -0800, you wrote: >That's perfect! Bartender...another Guiness for Lee, please. > >> No doubt 8192 Century Blox >> >> Lee >> >> >> >Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film >> >company. >> >> Jim >> >> -- >> Jim Hawkins >> Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator >> MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. >> 600 Pearl Drive >> St. Louis, MO 633376 >> 9636) 474-7832 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) >> >> > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were >> > gross. >> > >> > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. >> > >> > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or >> Kevin >> > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. >> > >> > >> > >> > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... >> > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 >> > > >> > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > > >> > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures. >ie; >> > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around >> > >$1,000, >> > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances >involved. >> >> > >Your >> > > > mileage may vary, etc. >> > > >> > >100K?! >> > > >> > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is >> > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site. >> > > >> > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell >> > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will >> > >gross $30K from the book. >> > > >> > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are co-authors, >> > >you will split the proceeds. >> > > >> > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love. >> > > >> > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but >> > >not many tech books sell that well. >> > > >> > >Jared >> > >-- >> > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >> > >-- >> > >Author: Jared Still >> > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >> > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists >> > > >> > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >> > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >> > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >> > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >> > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >> > >> > _ >> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> > >> > -- >> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >> > -- >> > Author: Rachel Carmichael >> > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >> > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists >> > >> > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >> > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >> > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >> > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >> > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Jim Hawkins >> Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator >> MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. >> 600 Pearl Drive >> St. Louis, MO 633376 >> 9636) 474-7832 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) >> >> -- >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >> -- >> Author: Jim Hawkins >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >> San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists >> >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >> >> >> The information contained in this communication is >> confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient >> named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader >> of this message is not the intended recipient, you are >> hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or >> cop
RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
That's perfect! Bartender...another Guiness for Lee, please. > No doubt 8192 Century Blox > > Lee > > > >Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film > >company. > > Jim > > -- > Jim Hawkins > Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator > MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. > 600 Pearl Drive > St. Louis, MO 633376 > 9636) 474-7832 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > > > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were > > gross. > > > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. > > > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or > Kevin > > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. > > > > > > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... > > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 > > > > > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures. ie; > > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around > > >$1,000, > > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances involved. > > > >Your > > > > mileage may vary, etc. > > > > > >100K?! > > > > > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is > > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site. > > > > > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell > > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will > > >gross $30K from the book. > > > > > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are co-authors, > > >you will split the proceeds. > > > > > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love. > > > > > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but > > >not many tech books sell that well. > > > > > >Jared > > >-- > > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > >-- > > >Author: Jared Still > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Rachel Carmichael > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > > > -- > Jim Hawkins > Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator > MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. > 600 Pearl Drive > St. Louis, MO 633376 > 9636) 474-7832 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Jim Hawkins > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader > of this message is not the intended recipient, you are > hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, please > re-send this communication to the sender and delete the > original message or any
RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
How about the films theme song? I vote for "Database Writer" : sung to the tune the Beatles created. "database writer DATABASE WRIIITTERR DATTTAAABASE WRRRIIITEERRR" Dorothy P.S Can i get a part in my red shoes as a transvestite waitress or something? :) I'll even get a wig with bunches.. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 04:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and I thank all those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely valuable to me (and others). Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I could not *happily* write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids under age 4), so I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's right, we're going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's Cannes Festival in southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk Oracle DBA's). "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. Starring (not in order of importance): *Larry Ellison as God *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a compassionate heart) *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven and Hell) *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning combination film? But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing this email. Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film company. Jim -- Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 600 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 633376 9636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were > gross. > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or Kevin > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. > > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 > > > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures. ie; > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around > >$1,000, > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances involved. > >Your > > > mileage may vary, etc. > > > >100K?! > > > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site. > > > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will > >gross $30K from the book. > > > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are co-authors, > >you will split the proceeds. > > > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love. > > > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but > >not many tech books sell that well. > > > >Jared > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Jared Still > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > --
RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
No doubt 8192 Century Blox Lee >Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film >company. Jim -- Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 600 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 633376 9636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were > gross. > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or Kevin > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. > > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 > > > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures. ie; > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around > >$1,000, > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances involved. > >Your > > > mileage may vary, etc. > > > >100K?! > > > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site. > > > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will > >gross $30K from the book. > > > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are co-authors, > >you will split the proceeds. > > > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love. > > > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but > >not many tech books sell that well. > > > >Jared > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Jared Still > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 600 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 633376 9636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jim Hawkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -
OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and I thank all those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely valuable to me (and others). Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I could not *happily* write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids under age 4), so I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's right, we're going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's Cannes Festival in southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk Oracle DBA's). "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins. Starring (not in order of importance): *Larry Ellison as God *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a compassionate heart) *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal) *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven and Hell) *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair) And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning combination film? But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing this email. Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film company. Jim -- Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 600 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 633376 9636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were > gross. > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that. > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or Kevin > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors. > > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)... > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800 > > > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures. ie; > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around > >$1,000, > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances involved. > >Your > > > mileage may vary, etc. > > > >100K?! > > > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site. > > > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will > >gross $30K from the book. > > > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are co-authors, > >you will split the proceeds. > > > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love. > > > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but > >not many tech books sell that well. > > > >Jared > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Jared Still > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- Jim Hawkins Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc. 600 Pearl Drive St. Louis, MO 633376 9636) 474-7832 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jim Hawkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San D
