RE: OT_salary

2001-11-15 Thread SARKAR, Samir
Title: RE: OT_salary



Well, what better could it 
be when I get a bus  every 5 minutes during peak hours and 

every 10 minutes during 
off-peak ??
I have visited New Jersy 
and Richmond in the US and I have seen that it is very 
difficult
to commute there if u dont 
have a car which is the reason getting a car remains the one of 

the priorities for anybody 
emigrating there.
 
Samir Sarkar 
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  -Original Message-From: Hallas John 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 12 November 2001 
  15:35To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: OT_salary
  I live in UK (Leeds) and frankly I would disagree with 
  everything you have said (no offense intended!!). DBA 
  salary differs depending on skill and location. I would have thought that 
  mid-level DBA for non London/Scotland  area is as you say £30-35K/annum. 
  From contractor rates I would say lower in Scotland and London could range 
  from £35-55K. 
  Banks , city instititution may pay more but I am sure it is 
  very hard getting in there. 
  As for transport I have worked in Nottingham 6 months ago (for 
  Logica) and I don't see the public transport system there any better than 
  Leeds,Manchester,London etc. They are all pretty poor. Unfortunately the 
  underlying transport infrastructure has been left underfunded and badly 
  managed for much too long. 
  John   
  -Original Message- From: 
  SARKAR, Samir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 12 November 2001 13:50 To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 
  OT_salary 
  Well, if u r in London, u wont feel the difference. I am in 
  Nottingham in the Midlands and I can assure u that the 
  cost of living here is low compared to the US. So is 
  true for most of the other UK cities like Manchester, 
  Sheffield, Glasgow etc... Secondly, since the public 
  transport system is so good in the UK, u can save 
  money on ur car expenses if u wish to. 
  Samir Sarkar Oracle DBA - Lennon 
  Team SchlumbergerSema Email 
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  -Original Message- Sent: 12 
  November 2001 13:15 To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  cost of living is low?   I didn't see prices that 
  low or different than the US when I was in London... 
  did something change in the last year or so? 
  
  --- "SARKAR, Samir" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been 
  > millionaires by > now if that 
  kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people would > have > flocked > to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a 
  comfy > salary > in the 
  UK since the cost of living is low. > 
  > Samir Sarkar > Oracle 
  DBA - Lennon Team > SchlumbergerSema 
  > Email :  
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  76217 > EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6418 Ext. 
  76217 > Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 
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  > > > -Original Message- > Sent: 12 
  November 2001 11:01 > To: SARKAR, Samir 
  > > > Hi Samir, > >   Is this salary per annum or per 
  month?  Please clarify. > > Regards, > > 
  Ranganath > > 
  -Original Message- > Sent: Monday, November 
  12, 2001 4:00 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L > > 
  > In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be 
  around £40K but the > salaries have dropped after 
  the IT bubble burst. > > 
  Samir Sarkar > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team 
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  76217 > EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6418 Ext. 
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  > > > -Original Message- > Sent: 12 
  November 2001 09:15 > To: Multiple recipients of 
  list ORACLE-L > > 
  > Hi > i'd like to know 
  what average salarys are in european countries for a > medium > skilled DBA. > my first contribution is 40 USD > 
  > > vr. gr. 
  > g.g. kor > rdw ict the 
  netherlands > > 
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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael

gotcha 
--- Robertson Lee - lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was only playing with you - I give you more credit than that Rachel
> 
> (I did put a smiley after my comment)
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 16:15
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> I do know there is more to the UK than London (and have visited more
> of
> it!)
> 
> I merely meant that the last time I visited I was in London. And
> prices
> there were high
> 
> 
> --- Robertson Lee - lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ah, the popular US misconception that the UK stops at London.  :-))
> > 
> > The economy of the UK is extremely diverse and whereas the price of
> a
> > meal
> > or a pint varies little between London and Newcastle Quayside for
> > example,
> > the difference in the cost of property can be vast.
> > 
> > The house I live in up in Northumberland cost me 110,000 quid and I
> > have
> > been assured by my house hunting colleages down south that a
> similar
> > spec'd
> > property down there would probably not see much ( and I mean not
> > much)change
> > out of half a million. I believe Nottingham (where Samir is working
> > falls
> > somewhere between the two but I would imagine is closer to the cost
> > of
> > living of the North).
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Lee
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: 12 November 2001 13:15
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > cost of living is low?   I didn't see prices that low or different
> > than
> > the US when I was in London... did something change in the last
> year
> > or
> > so?
> > 
> > --- "SARKAR, Samir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been
> > > millionaires by
> > > now if that kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people
> would
> > > have
> > > flocked 
> > > to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a
> > comfy
> > > salary 
> > > in the UK since the cost of living is low.
> > > 
> > > Samir Sarkar
> > > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> > > SchlumbergerSema
> > > Email :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > Sent: 12 November 2001 11:01
> > > To: SARKAR, Samir
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Samir,
> > > 
> > >   Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Ranganath
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but
> the>
>   > salaries have dropped after the IT bubble burst.
> > > 
> > > Samir Sarkar
> > > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> > > SchlumbergerSema
> > > Email :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > Sent: 12 November 2001 09:15
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi 
> > > i'd like to know what average salarys are in european countries
> for
> > a
> > > medium
> > > skilled DBA.
> > > my first contribution is 40 USD
> > > 
> > > 
> > > vr. gr.
> > > g.g. kor
> > > rdw ict the netherlands
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Edward Shevtsov

> >hmm, I've never been to the UK but always thought that the cost of living in the UK 
>is higher
> >comparing to the USA.
> >It seems I was wrong.
> >Not sure you consider Russia as a part of Europe... Just for your information
> >The average salary for a med. DBA in Moscow is about 12K per year.
> >Hey, any volunteer to join our teem ? ;-)
> >
> are you willing to pay relocation?;-)
> 
no, instead the company guarantees free dinners ;-)

Regards,
Ed

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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Mark Leith

I concur! Get your own car! lol

-Original Message-
Lee - lerobe
Sent: 12 November 2001 16:31
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I'm with our non UK colleagues here. The public transport in the UK is a
pile of s**t.

There how about that for being straight to the point.

-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Public transportation system being good in UK? Hey, that's
great news! When did the London Subway (a.k.a "tube") start 
operating through the night instead of only until midnight?
When did they increase the frequency of those night buses from
Trafalgar Square?

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:50 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Well, if u r in London, u wont feel the difference. I am in Nottingham 
in the Midlands and I can assure u that the cost of living here is low 
compared to the US. So is true for most of the other UK cities like 
Manchester, Sheffield, Glasgow etc...
Secondly, since the public transport system is so good in the UK, u can 
save money on ur car expenses if u wish to.

Samir Sarkar
Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
SchlumbergerSema
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Re: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread USA.NET

The average pay in the Denver area is $83K.
I believe an average house is $250K or so.

But I've seen Jr DBA jobs as low as $45K and senior jobs as high as $110K.

Now  to find one is another matter!

Randy Kirkpatrick
(303) 772-7467



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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:41 AM


I have been to the UK a lot... as far south as Sandwich and Dover and up the
east coast to Woodbridge, Beccles etc... also been to Scotland as far north
as Ulapool.  I have also lived in the US for the last 6 or 7 years in
various places upstate NY, Michigan, Rhode Island and Connecticut.  I would
have to say that I would vote for the US as having the lower cost of living.


Ken.



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Hi,

hmm, I've never been to the UK but always thought that the cost of living in
the UK is higher
comparing to the USA.
It seems I was wrong.
Not sure you consider Russia as a part of Europe... Just for your
information
The average salary for a med. DBA in Moscow is about 12K per year.
Hey, any volunteer to join our teem ? ;-)

Regards,
Ed


> Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been millionaires by
> now if that kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people would have
> flocked
> to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a comfy
salary
> in the UK since the cost of living is low.
>
> Samir Sarkar
> Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> SchlumbergerSema
> Email :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 95 76217
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> Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6018
>
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 11:01
> To: SARKAR, Samir
>
>
> Hi Samir,
>
> Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ranganath
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the
> salaries have dropped after the IT bubble burst.
>
>
>
> Hi
> i'd like to know what average salarys are in european countries for a
medium
> skilled DBA.
> my first contribution is 40 USD
>
>


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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

I'm with our non UK colleagues here. The public transport in the UK is a
pile of s**t.

There how about that for being straight to the point.

-Original Message-
Sent: 12 November 2001 15:55
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Public transportation system being good in UK? Hey, that's
great news! When did the London Subway (a.k.a "tube") start 
operating through the night instead of only until midnight?
When did they increase the frequency of those night buses from
Trafalgar Square?

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:50 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Well, if u r in London, u wont feel the difference. I am in Nottingham 
in the Midlands and I can assure u that the cost of living here is low 
compared to the US. So is true for most of the other UK cities like 
Manchester, Sheffield, Glasgow etc...
Secondly, since the public transport system is so good in the UK, u can 
save money on ur car expenses if u wish to.

Samir Sarkar
Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
SchlumbergerSema
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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

I was only playing with you - I give you more credit than that Rachel

(I did put a smiley after my comment)

Lee


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I do know there is more to the UK than London (and have visited more of
it!)

I merely meant that the last time I visited I was in London. And prices
there were high


--- Robertson Lee - lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, the popular US misconception that the UK stops at London.  :-))
> 
> The economy of the UK is extremely diverse and whereas the price of a
> meal
> or a pint varies little between London and Newcastle Quayside for
> example,
> the difference in the cost of property can be vast.
> 
> The house I live in up in Northumberland cost me 110,000 quid and I
> have
> been assured by my house hunting colleages down south that a similar
> spec'd
> property down there would probably not see much ( and I mean not
> much)change
> out of half a million. I believe Nottingham (where Samir is working
> falls
> somewhere between the two but I would imagine is closer to the cost
> of
> living of the North).
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 13:15
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> cost of living is low?   I didn't see prices that low or different
> than
> the US when I was in London... did something change in the last year
> or
> so?
> 
> --- "SARKAR, Samir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been
> > millionaires by
> > now if that kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people would
> > have
> > flocked 
> > to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a
> comfy
> > salary 
> > in the UK since the cost of living is low.
> > 
> > Samir Sarkar
> > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> > SchlumbergerSema
> > Email :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 95 76217
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> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: 12 November 2001 11:01
> > To: SARKAR, Samir
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Samir,
> > 
> > Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Ranganath
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the>
  > salaries have dropped after the IT bubble burst.
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> > Samir Sarkar
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Re: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Thater, William

Edward Shevtsov wrote:

>Hi,
>
>hmm, I've never been to the UK but always thought that the cost of living in the UK 
>is higher
>comparing to the USA.
>It seems I was wrong.
>Not sure you consider Russia as a part of Europe... Just for your information
>The average salary for a med. DBA in Moscow is about 12K per year.
>Hey, any volunteer to join our teem ? ;-)
>
are you willing to pay relocation?;-)


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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Public transportation system being good in UK? Hey, that's
great news! When did the London Subway (a.k.a "tube") start 
operating through the night instead of only until midnight?
When did they increase the frequency of those night buses from
Trafalgar Square?

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Well, if u r in London, u wont feel the difference. I am in Nottingham 
in the Midlands and I can assure u that the cost of living here is low 
compared to the US. So is true for most of the other UK cities like 
Manchester, Sheffield, Glasgow etc...
Secondly, since the public transport system is so good in the UK, u can 
save money on ur car expenses if u wish to.

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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I do know there is more to the UK than London (and have visited more of
it!)

I merely meant that the last time I visited I was in London. And prices
there were high


--- Robertson Lee - lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, the popular US misconception that the UK stops at London.  :-))
> 
> The economy of the UK is extremely diverse and whereas the price of a
> meal
> or a pint varies little between London and Newcastle Quayside for
> example,
> the difference in the cost of property can be vast.
> 
> The house I live in up in Northumberland cost me 110,000 quid and I
> have
> been assured by my house hunting colleages down south that a similar
> spec'd
> property down there would probably not see much ( and I mean not
> much)change
> out of half a million. I believe Nottingham (where Samir is working
> falls
> somewhere between the two but I would imagine is closer to the cost
> of
> living of the North).
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 13:15
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> cost of living is low?   I didn't see prices that low or different
> than
> the US when I was in London... did something change in the last year
> or
> so?
> 
> --- "SARKAR, Samir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been
> > millionaires by
> > now if that kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people would
> > have
> > flocked 
> > to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a
> comfy
> > salary 
> > in the UK since the cost of living is low.
> > 
> > Samir Sarkar
> > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> > SchlumbergerSema
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> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: 12 November 2001 11:01
> > To: SARKAR, Samir
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Samir,
> > 
> > Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Ranganath
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the 
> > salaries have dropped after the IT bubble burst.
> > 
> > Samir Sarkar
> > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> > SchlumbergerSema
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> > -Original Message-
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> > 
> > Hi 
> > i'd like to know what average salarys are in european countries for
> a
> > medium
> > skilled DBA.
> > my first contribution is 40 USD
> > 
> > 
> > vr. gr.
> > g.g. kor
> > rdw ict the netherlands
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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: OT_salary





I live in UK (Leeds) and frankly I would disagree with everything you have said (no offense intended!!).
DBA salary differs depending on skill and location. I would have thought that mid-level DBA for non London/Scotland  area is as you say £30-35K/annum. From contractor rates I would say lower in Scotland and London could range from £35-55K. 

Banks , city instititution may pay more but I am sure it is very hard getting in there.


As for transport I have worked in Nottingham 6 months ago (for Logica) and I don't see the public transport system there any better than Leeds,Manchester,London etc. They are all pretty poor. Unfortunately the underlying transport infrastructure has been left underfunded and badly managed for much too long. 

John
 


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Well, if u r in London, u wont feel the difference. I am in Nottingham 
in the Midlands and I can assure u that the cost of living here is low 
compared to the US. So is true for most of the other UK cities like 
Manchester, Sheffield, Glasgow etc...
Secondly, since the public transport system is so good in the UK, u can 
save money on ur car expenses if u wish to.


Samir Sarkar
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cost of living is low?   I didn't see prices that low or different than
the US when I was in London... did something change in the last year or
so?


--- "SARKAR, Samir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been
> millionaires by
> now if that kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people would
> have
> flocked 
> to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a comfy
> salary 
> in the UK since the cost of living is low.
> 
> Samir Sarkar
> Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> SchlumbergerSema
> Email :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 95 76217
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 11:01
> To: SARKAR, Samir
> 
> 
> Hi Samir,
> 
>   Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ranganath
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the 
> salaries have dropped after the IT bubble burst.
> 
> Samir Sarkar
> Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> SchlumbergerSema
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 09:15
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Hi 
> i'd like to know what average salarys are in european countries for a
> medium
> skilled DBA.
> my first contribution is 40 USD
> 
> 
> vr. gr.
> g.g. kor
> rdw ict the netherlands
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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Fowler, Kenneth R

I have been to the UK a lot... as far south as Sandwich and Dover and up the
east coast to Woodbridge, Beccles etc... also been to Scotland as far north
as Ulapool.  I have also lived in the US for the last 6 or 7 years in
various places upstate NY, Michigan, Rhode Island and Connecticut.  I would
have to say that I would vote for the US as having the lower cost of living.


Ken.



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Hi,

hmm, I've never been to the UK but always thought that the cost of living in
the UK is higher
comparing to the USA.
It seems I was wrong.
Not sure you consider Russia as a part of Europe... Just for your
information
The average salary for a med. DBA in Moscow is about 12K per year.
Hey, any volunteer to join our teem ? ;-)

Regards,
Ed


> Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been millionaires by
> now if that kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people would have
> flocked
> to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a comfy
salary
> in the UK since the cost of living is low.
>
> Samir Sarkar
> Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> SchlumbergerSema
> Email :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 95 76217
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 11:01
> To: SARKAR, Samir
>
>
> Hi Samir,
>
> Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ranganath
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the
> salaries have dropped after the IT bubble burst.
>
>
>
> Hi
> i'd like to know what average salarys are in european countries for a
medium
> skilled DBA.
> my first contribution is 40 USD
>
>


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Re: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Edward Shevtsov

Hi,

hmm, I've never been to the UK but always thought that the cost of living in the UK is 
higher
comparing to the USA.
It seems I was wrong.
Not sure you consider Russia as a part of Europe... Just for your information
The average salary for a med. DBA in Moscow is about 12K per year.
Hey, any volunteer to join our teem ? ;-)

Regards,
Ed


> Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been millionaires by
> now if that kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people would have
> flocked
> to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a comfy salary
> in the UK since the cost of living is low.
>
> Samir Sarkar
> Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> SchlumbergerSema
> Email :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 11:01
> To: SARKAR, Samir
>
>
> Hi Samir,
>
> Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ranganath
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the
> salaries have dropped after the IT bubble burst.
>
>
>
> Hi
> i'd like to know what average salarys are in european countries for a medium
> skilled DBA.
> my first contribution is 40 USD
>
>


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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread SARKAR, Samir

Well, if u r in London, u wont feel the difference. I am in Nottingham 
in the Midlands and I can assure u that the cost of living here is low 
compared to the US. So is true for most of the other UK cities like 
Manchester, Sheffield, Glasgow etc...
Secondly, since the public transport system is so good in the UK, u can 
save money on ur car expenses if u wish to.

Samir Sarkar
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cost of living is low?   I didn't see prices that low or different than
the US when I was in London... did something change in the last year or
so?

--- "SARKAR, Samir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been
> millionaires by
> now if that kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people would
> have
> flocked 
> to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a comfy
> salary 
> in the UK since the cost of living is low.
> 
> Samir Sarkar
> Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> SchlumbergerSema
> Email :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 95 76217
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> Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6018
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 11:01
> To: SARKAR, Samir
> 
> 
> Hi Samir,
> 
>   Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ranganath
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the 
> salaries have dropped after the IT bubble burst.
> 
> Samir Sarkar
> Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> SchlumbergerSema
> Email :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 12 November 2001 09:15
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Hi 
> i'd like to know what average salarys are in european countries for a
> medium
> skilled DBA.
> my first contribution is 40 USD
> 
> 
> vr. gr.
> g.g. kor
> rdw ict the netherlands
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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Ah, the popular US misconception that the UK stops at London.  :-))

The economy of the UK is extremely diverse and whereas the price of a meal
or a pint varies little between London and Newcastle Quayside for example,
the difference in the cost of property can be vast.

The house I live in up in Northumberland cost me 110,000 quid and I have
been assured by my house hunting colleages down south that a similar spec'd
property down there would probably not see much ( and I mean not much)change
out of half a million. I believe Nottingham (where Samir is working falls
somewhere between the two but I would imagine is closer to the cost of
living of the North).

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cost of living is low?   I didn't see prices that low or different than
the US when I was in London... did something change in the last year or
so?

--- "SARKAR, Samir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the 
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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael

cost of living is low?   I didn't see prices that low or different than
the US when I was in London... did something change in the last year or
so?

--- "SARKAR, Samir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> Hi Samir,
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>   Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.
> 
> Regards,
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> Ranganath
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> -Original Message-
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> 
> In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the 
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RE: OT_salary

2001-11-12 Thread SARKAR, Samir

Of course its a per annum salary. We DBAs would have been millionaires by
now if that kind of a salary were paid monthly.and people would have
flocked 
to the UK instead of the US :)). But then again, it is quite a comfy salary 
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Hi Samir,

Is this salary per annum or per month?  Please clarify.

Regards,

Ranganath

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In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the 
salaries have dropped after the IT bubble burst.

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Hi 
i'd like to know what average salarys are in european countries for a medium
skilled DBA.
my first contribution is 40 USD


vr. gr.
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2001-11-12 Thread SARKAR, Samir

In the UK, it is around £30-35K. It used to be around £40K but the 
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my first contribution is 40 USD


vr. gr.
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2001-11-12 Thread GKor

Hi 
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skilled DBA.
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