Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread OraStaff
If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the skills 
outlined below for this position.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell scripting
and experience with
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 

Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.

The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental insurance,
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, a 401K
Plan, and much more. 

For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment to:

OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni

I pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interested
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks.





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RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Markham, Richard
Title: RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed





What does Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. mean? You can
throw the possibility of a raise out the window? =)


-Original Message-
From: OraStaff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed



If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 


Relocation Assistance is provided.


PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the skills 
outlined below for this position.


DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term
project history.


This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties
please.


NO H-1B candidates please.


*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell scripting
and experience with
Sybase and/or SQL Server. 


Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.


The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental insurance,
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, a 401K
Plan, and much more. 


For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment to:


OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni


I pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interested
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks.






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RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Paulo Gomes
unfortunatly i don't work with SAP or i would be interessed
regards
Paulo

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Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2002 14:49
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the skills 
outlined below for this position.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell scripting
and experience with
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 

Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.

The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental insurance,
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, a 401K
Plan, and much more. 

For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment to:

OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni

I pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interested
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks.





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Re: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Alan Davey
Well with the ridiculous salary they are offering, they could at least train you in 
the use of SAP.  This is a Fortune 500 company after all.

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On 11/6/2002 10:56 AM, Paulo Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunatly i don't work with SAP or i would be interessed
regards
Paulo

-Original Message-
Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2002 14:49
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable 
company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company 
in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top 
notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area 
and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have 
the skills 
outlined below for this position.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot 
be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long 
term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third 
parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting
and experience with
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 

Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.

The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental insurance,
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, 
a 401K
Plan, and much more. 

For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment 
to:

OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni

I pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interested
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks.





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RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Jared . Still
I doubt they can fill this position at that salary.

Oracle DBA's that work with SAP can easily earn much more than that.

Jared






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What does Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. mean?  You can 
throw the possibility of a raise out the window? =) 
-Original Message- 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:49 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company in 
Toledo, 
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady 
growth over 
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top notch 
candidate. 
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area and 
offers 
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities. 
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city 
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 
Relocation Assistance is provided. 
PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the 
skills 
outlined below for this position. 
DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history. 
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be 
considered. 
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term 
project history. 
This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties 
please. 
NO H-1B candidates please. 
*Requirements: 
-MUST be a team player. 
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience. 
-SAP experience 
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery, 
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design, 
Monitoring, and Support. 
-MUST have excellent communications skills 
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting 
and experience with 
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 
Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. 
The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental insurance, 
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, a 401K 
Plan, and much more. 
For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment to: 
OraStaff, Inc. 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni 
I pay referral fees. 
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be 
qualified/interested 
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills. 
Thanks. 




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Re: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Rachna Vaidya
Makes sense if...
Base Salary is 155K-to maybe high 160s Firm.

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I doubt they can fill this position at that salary.

Oracle DBA's that work with SAP can easily earn much more than that.

Jared






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What does Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. mean?  You can 
throw the possibility of a raise out the window? =) 
-Original Message- 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:49 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company in 
Toledo, 
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady 
growth over 
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top notch 
candidate. 
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area and 
offers 
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities. 
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city 
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 
Relocation Assistance is provided. 
PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the 
skills 
outlined below for this position. 
DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history. 
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be 
considered. 
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term 
project history. 
This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties 
please. 
NO H-1B candidates please. 
*Requirements: 
-MUST be a team player. 
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience. 
-SAP experience 
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery, 
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design, 
Monitoring, and Support. 
-MUST have excellent communications skills 
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting 
and experience with 
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 
Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. 
The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental insurance, 
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, a 401K 
Plan, and much more. 
For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment to: 
OraStaff, Inc. 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni 
I pay referral fees. 
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be 
qualified/interested 
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills. 
Thanks. 




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RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Weaver, Walt
The fact that the job's in or near Toledo might have something to do with
the salary. I doubt the cost of living is that high around there.

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana

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I doubt they can fill this position at that salary.

Oracle DBA's that work with SAP can easily earn much more than that.

Jared






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What does Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. mean?  You can 
throw the possibility of a raise out the window? =) 
-Original Message- 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:49 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company in 
Toledo, 
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady 
growth over 
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top notch 
candidate. 
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area and 
offers 
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities. 
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city 
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 
Relocation Assistance is provided. 
PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the 
skills 
outlined below for this position. 
DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history. 
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be 
considered. 
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term 
project history. 
This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties 
please. 
NO H-1B candidates please. 
*Requirements: 
-MUST be a team player. 
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience. 
-SAP experience 
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery, 
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design, 
Monitoring, and Support. 
-MUST have excellent communications skills 
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting 
and experience with 
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 
Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. 
The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental insurance, 
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, a 401K 
Plan, and much more. 
For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment to: 
OraStaff, Inc. 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni 
I pay referral fees. 
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be 
qualified/interested 
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills. 
Thanks. 




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RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Walt - I'm surprised to hear that from somebody in Montana. I would have
expected you to say really expensive to live in the big city, pay for food
rather than just kill your own, rent a house rather than just cut down some
trees and make your own cabin, buy gas instead of ride your horse. Or maybe
Montana isn't what it used to be. ;-)

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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The fact that the job's in or near Toledo might have something to do with
the salary. I doubt the cost of living is that high around there.

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana

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I doubt they can fill this position at that salary.

Oracle DBA's that work with SAP can easily earn much more than that.

Jared






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What does Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. mean?  You can 
throw the possibility of a raise out the window? =) 
-Original Message- 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:49 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company in 
Toledo, 
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady 
growth over 
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top notch 
candidate. 
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area and 
offers 
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities. 
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city 
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 
Relocation Assistance is provided. 
PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the 
skills 
outlined below for this position. 
DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history. 
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be 
considered. 
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term 
project history. 
This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties 
please. 
NO H-1B candidates please. 
*Requirements: 
-MUST be a team player. 
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience. 
-SAP experience 
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery, 
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design, 
Monitoring, and Support. 
-MUST have excellent communications skills 
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting 
and experience with 
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 
Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. 
The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental insurance, 
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, a 401K 
Plan, and much more. 
For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment to: 
OraStaff, Inc. 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni 
I pay referral fees. 
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be 
qualified/interested 
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills. 
Thanks. 




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RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed





It's Toledo. That ought to automatically 
double the salary.


Saturday night in Toledo Ohio is like being nowhere at all
All through the day, how the hours rush by
you visit the park and you watch the grass die.


 - John Denver

Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My computer beat me at chess, but I won
when it came to kick boxing.


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The fact that the job's in or near Toledo might have something to do with
the salary. I doubt the cost of living is that high around there.


--Walt Weaver
 Bozeman, Montana


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:13 PM
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I doubt they can fill this position at that salary.


Oracle DBA's that work with SAP can easily earn much more than that.


Jared







Markham, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
11/06/2002 07:56 AM
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What does Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. mean? You can 
throw the possibility of a raise out the window? =) 
-Original Message- 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:49 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company in 
Toledo, 
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady 
growth over 
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top notch 
candidate. 
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area and 
offers 
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities. 
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city 
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 
Relocation Assistance is provided. 
PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the 
skills 
outlined below for this position. 
DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history. 
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be 
considered. 
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term 
project history. 
This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties 
please. 
NO H-1B candidates please. 
*Requirements: 
-MUST be a team player. 
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience. 
-SAP experience 
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery, 
Implementation, Conversion, 
Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design, 
Monitoring, and Support. 
-MUST have excellent communications skills 
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting 
and experience with 
Sybase and/or SQL Server. 
Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm. 
The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental insurance, 
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, a 401K 
Plan, and much more. 
For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment to: 
OraStaff, Inc. 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni 
I pay referral fees. 
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be 
qualified/interested 
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills. 
Thanks. 





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RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Cary Millsap
An administrative requirement causes a lot of these types of postings
with odd-looking salary ranges. Chances are that the company already has
a foreign national candidate in the hiring pipeline for the job at this
salary. INS requires that US citizens be given a fair shot at the job
posting. One of the requirements is to advertise the position publicly.
Oracle-L is a public forum.

What usually happens is that either nobody applies for the position (the
salary's too low, so everybody pokes fun at it). Sometimes, somebody
does apply. But it's very unlikely that at this price, it'll be anyone
qualified.

Having seen this process to fruition and beyond, what often happens is
that the person immigrates to the US, works hard, and makes good. The
company benefits from good labor at a bargain price for at least a year
or two. The applicant benefits in several ways. He or she gets
physically to the USA, making well more than enough money than it takes
for most people to live on. If the person becomes indispensable, the
host company sponsors a green card application. From there, because the
person is free to compete in the USA job market, he or she begins making
the kind of money you'd expect.


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on Oracle® System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well with the ridiculous salary they are offering, they could at least
train you in the use of SAP.  This is a Fortune 500 company after all.

-- 

Alan Davey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
212-604-0200  x106


On 11/6/2002 10:56 AM, Paulo Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunatly i don't work with SAP or i would be interessed
regards
Paulo

-Original Message-
Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2002 14:49
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable 
company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company 
in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top 
notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area 
and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have 
the skills 
outlined below for this position.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot 
be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long 
term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third 
parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting
and experience with
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 

Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.

The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental
insurance,
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, 
a 401K
Plan, and much more. 

For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment 
to:

OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni

I pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
qualified/interested
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks.





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RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Cary - I think you have a good insight. I've encountered that before. Often
that is the reason for some strange employment advertisements in national
magazines. As you say, posting on ORACLE-L may meet the requirement, is
free, and is fast (no need to wait months for the publication date).

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


An administrative requirement causes a lot of these types of postings
with odd-looking salary ranges. Chances are that the company already has
a foreign national candidate in the hiring pipeline for the job at this
salary. INS requires that US citizens be given a fair shot at the job
posting. One of the requirements is to advertise the position publicly.
Oracle-L is a public forum.

What usually happens is that either nobody applies for the position (the
salary's too low, so everybody pokes fun at it). Sometimes, somebody
does apply. But it's very unlikely that at this price, it'll be anyone
qualified.

Having seen this process to fruition and beyond, what often happens is
that the person immigrates to the US, works hard, and makes good. The
company benefits from good labor at a bargain price for at least a year
or two. The applicant benefits in several ways. He or she gets
physically to the USA, making well more than enough money than it takes
for most people to live on. If the person becomes indispensable, the
host company sponsors a green card application. From there, because the
person is free to compete in the USA job market, he or she begins making
the kind of money you'd expect.


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on Oracle® System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well with the ridiculous salary they are offering, they could at least
train you in the use of SAP.  This is a Fortune 500 company after all.

-- 

Alan Davey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
212-604-0200  x106


On 11/6/2002 10:56 AM, Paulo Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunatly i don't work with SAP or i would be interessed
regards
Paulo

-Original Message-
Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2002 14:49
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable 
company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company 
in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top 
notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area 
and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have 
the skills 
outlined below for this position.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot 
be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long 
term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third 
parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting
and experience with
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 

Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.

The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental
insurance,
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, 
a 401K
Plan, and much more. 

For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment 
to:

OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni

I pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
qualified/interested
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks.





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Re:RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread dgoulet
Yeah, but is smacks of being unethical and un-American.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   11/6/2002 1:08 PM

Cary - I think you have a good insight. I've encountered that before. Often
that is the reason for some strange employment advertisements in national
magazines. As you say, posting on ORACLE-L may meet the requirement, is
free, and is fast (no need to wait months for the publication date).

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


An administrative requirement causes a lot of these types of postings
with odd-looking salary ranges. Chances are that the company already has
a foreign national candidate in the hiring pipeline for the job at this
salary. INS requires that US citizens be given a fair shot at the job
posting. One of the requirements is to advertise the position publicly.
Oracle-L is a public forum.

What usually happens is that either nobody applies for the position (the
salary's too low, so everybody pokes fun at it). Sometimes, somebody
does apply. But it's very unlikely that at this price, it'll be anyone
qualified.

Having seen this process to fruition and beyond, what often happens is
that the person immigrates to the US, works hard, and makes good. The
company benefits from good labor at a bargain price for at least a year
or two. The applicant benefits in several ways. He or she gets
physically to the USA, making well more than enough money than it takes
for most people to live on. If the person becomes indispensable, the
host company sponsors a green card application. From there, because the
person is free to compete in the USA job market, he or she begins making
the kind of money you'd expect.


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well with the ridiculous salary they are offering, they could at least
train you in the use of SAP.  This is a Fortune 500 company after all.

-- 

Alan Davey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
212-604-0200  x106


On 11/6/2002 10:56 AM, Paulo Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunatly i don't work with SAP or i would be interessed
regards
Paulo

-Original Message-
Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2002 14:49
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable 
company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company 
in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top 
notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area 
and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have 
the skills 
outlined below for this position.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot 
be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long 
term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third 
parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting
and experience with
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 

Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.

The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental
insurance,
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, 
a 401K
Plan, and much more. 

For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment 
to:

OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni

I pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
qualified/interested
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks.





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RE: RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Kevin Lange
In other words  smart buisness sense  

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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Yeah, but is smacks of being unethical and un-American.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   11/6/2002 1:08 PM

Cary - I think you have a good insight. I've encountered that before. Often
that is the reason for some strange employment advertisements in national
magazines. As you say, posting on ORACLE-L may meet the requirement, is
free, and is fast (no need to wait months for the publication date).

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


An administrative requirement causes a lot of these types of postings
with odd-looking salary ranges. Chances are that the company already has
a foreign national candidate in the hiring pipeline for the job at this
salary. INS requires that US citizens be given a fair shot at the job
posting. One of the requirements is to advertise the position publicly.
Oracle-L is a public forum.

What usually happens is that either nobody applies for the position (the
salary's too low, so everybody pokes fun at it). Sometimes, somebody
does apply. But it's very unlikely that at this price, it'll be anyone
qualified.

Having seen this process to fruition and beyond, what often happens is
that the person immigrates to the US, works hard, and makes good. The
company benefits from good labor at a bargain price for at least a year
or two. The applicant benefits in several ways. He or she gets
physically to the USA, making well more than enough money than it takes
for most people to live on. If the person becomes indispensable, the
host company sponsors a green card application. From there, because the
person is free to compete in the USA job market, he or she begins making
the kind of money you'd expect.


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well with the ridiculous salary they are offering, they could at least
train you in the use of SAP.  This is a Fortune 500 company after all.

-- 

Alan Davey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
212-604-0200  x106


On 11/6/2002 10:56 AM, Paulo Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunatly i don't work with SAP or i would be interessed
regards
Paulo

-Original Message-
Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2002 14:49
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable 
company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company 
in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top 
notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area 
and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have 
the skills 
outlined below for this position.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot 
be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long 
term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third 
parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting
and experience with
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 

Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.

The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental
insurance,
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, 
a 401K
Plan, and much more. 

For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment 
to:

OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni

I pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
qualified/interested
in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks.





-- 
Please see the official ORACLE-L 

RE: RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Cary Millsap
I think the official term is optimizing within the law.


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on Oracle® System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas


-Original Message-
Lange
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

In other words  smart buisness sense  

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Yeah, but is smacks of being unethical and un-American.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   11/6/2002 1:08 PM

Cary - I think you have a good insight. I've encountered that before.
Often
that is the reason for some strange employment advertisements in
national
magazines. As you say, posting on ORACLE-L may meet the requirement, is
free, and is fast (no need to wait months for the publication date).

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


An administrative requirement causes a lot of these types of postings
with odd-looking salary ranges. Chances are that the company already has
a foreign national candidate in the hiring pipeline for the job at this
salary. INS requires that US citizens be given a fair shot at the job
posting. One of the requirements is to advertise the position publicly.
Oracle-L is a public forum.

What usually happens is that either nobody applies for the position (the
salary's too low, so everybody pokes fun at it). Sometimes, somebody
does apply. But it's very unlikely that at this price, it'll be anyone
qualified.

Having seen this process to fruition and beyond, what often happens is
that the person immigrates to the US, works hard, and makes good. The
company benefits from good labor at a bargain price for at least a year
or two. The applicant benefits in several ways. He or she gets
physically to the USA, making well more than enough money than it takes
for most people to live on. If the person becomes indispensable, the
host company sponsors a green card application. From there, because the
person is free to compete in the USA job market, he or she begins making
the kind of money you'd expect.


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well with the ridiculous salary they are offering, they could at least
train you in the use of SAP.  This is a Fortune 500 company after all.

-- 

Alan Davey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
212-604-0200  x106


On 11/6/2002 10:56 AM, Paulo Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunatly i don't work with SAP or i would be interessed
regards
Paulo

-Original Message-
Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2002 14:49
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable 
company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company 
in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top 
notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area 
and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have 
the skills 
outlined below for this position.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot 
be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long 
term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third 
parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting
and experience with
 Sybase and/or SQL Server. 

Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.

The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental
insurance,
life insurance, 
sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days, 
a 401K
Plan, and 

RE: RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

2002-11-06 Thread Weaver, Walt
I can't believe you people are talking about Toledo residents like this.
It's disgusting.

--Walt (Go Mudhens!) Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:08 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I think the official term is optimizing within the law.


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on Oracle® System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas


-Original Message-
Lange
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

In other words  smart buisness sense  

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Yeah, but is smacks of being unethical and un-American.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   11/6/2002 1:08 PM

Cary - I think you have a good insight. I've encountered that before.
Often
that is the reason for some strange employment advertisements in
national
magazines. As you say, posting on ORACLE-L may meet the requirement, is
free, and is fast (no need to wait months for the publication date).

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


An administrative requirement causes a lot of these types of postings
with odd-looking salary ranges. Chances are that the company already has
a foreign national candidate in the hiring pipeline for the job at this
salary. INS requires that US citizens be given a fair shot at the job
posting. One of the requirements is to advertise the position publicly.
Oracle-L is a public forum.

What usually happens is that either nobody applies for the position (the
salary's too low, so everybody pokes fun at it). Sometimes, somebody
does apply. But it's very unlikely that at this price, it'll be anyone
qualified.

Having seen this process to fruition and beyond, what often happens is
that the person immigrates to the US, works hard, and makes good. The
company benefits from good labor at a bargain price for at least a year
or two. The applicant benefits in several ways. He or she gets
physically to the USA, making well more than enough money than it takes
for most people to live on. If the person becomes indispensable, the
host company sponsors a green card application. From there, because the
person is free to compete in the USA job market, he or she begins making
the kind of money you'd expect.


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas


-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well with the ridiculous salary they are offering, they could at least
train you in the use of SAP.  This is a Fortune 500 company after all.

-- 

Alan Davey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
212-604-0200  x106


On 11/6/2002 10:56 AM, Paulo Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unfortunatly i don't work with SAP or i would be interessed
regards
Paulo

-Original Message-
Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2002 14:49
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable 
company 
where you can work within a great team environment, this company 
in Toledo,
Ohio 
is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
growth over
the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top 
notch
candidate.
This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area 
and offers
a varied choice 
of neighborhood communities.
If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller 
city
atmosphere 
this is the opportunity to check out. 

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have 
the skills 
outlined below for this position.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot 
be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long 
term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third 
parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

*Requirements:
-MUST be a team player.
-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
-SAP experience
-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
Implementation, Conversion, 
 Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
Monitoring, and Support.
-MUST have excellent communications skills
-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell 
scripting
and experience with
 

Oracle DBA with SAP Needed in St. Louis..

2001-09-06 Thread OraStaff

Join an excellent West St. Louis county based organization,
offering challenging projects and an excellent work environment. 
As a key Oracle DBA resource you will play an intregal role in both in-house
and SAP based projects.

*Responsibilitites
In this environment, you will have a variety of responsibilities including
logical 
and physical design, performance tuning, security, full cycle scratch
development projects 
as well as support of SAP and other packages.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties
please.

Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or need 
sponsorship.


* Requirements:
- 3+ Years Oracle DBA experience 
- SAP-R/3 experience is strongly preferred
- Any Data Warehouse/Data Mining experience is a plus
- U.S. citizenship or Permanent residency is also required

These positions offer:
   * Stability 
   * The opportunity to become a key member of the team.
   * Base salary-D.O.E. up to 82K to start.
   
PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States.

For  immediate consideration, please send your resume as a Word attachment to:
OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph: 1-800 -549-8502
Please use job code One/St. Louis/DBA SAP/Fred

All Submissions are handled in confidence.

*We pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interested
in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks,
Bill Law







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