Re: Oracle Version 8 as read only

2003-11-27 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi

Tims ideas are good but also take a cold backup of the database before
the read only period starts so that even if someone manages to alter
data it can be restored back to its previous state. By the way when you
say read only does that apply to batch processes and general system
ageing? - if so you need to ensure you back up after each batch run so
it can be restored to a fixed position if someone manages to change
anything.

always remember least privilege principle!!

hope this helps

kind regards

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Oracle Version 8 as read only

2003-11-26 Thread Browett, Darren
We are in the process of upgrading our peoplesoft app, using an oracle
database of
8.0.5 to 9i.  During the upgrade we still need access to the old 8.0.5
database as readonly.

I have read all the doc's but it appears I cannot open the database as
read only.  Looks like
I could if the version was 8i.

Does anybody have any pointers on how I could accomplish this.

Thanks

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RE: Oracle Version 8 as read only

2003-11-26 Thread nelson flores
Darren,
Couldn't you just open the database with a user that has all the
necessary privileges revoked?

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I have read all the doc's but it appears I cannot open the database as
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I could if the version was 8i.

Does anybody have any pointers on how I could accomplish this.

Thanks

Darren.

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Re: Oracle Version 8 as read only

2003-11-26 Thread Tim Gorman
You can't.

Even if you were to set all possible tablespaces to READ ONLY, you'll find
that it doesn't prevent folks from dropping objects.

All you can do is restrict people to schemas/accounts which do not own any
objects and do not have permissions to create any.  That way, you can
restrict them to CREATE SESSION, ALTER SESSION, and SELECT permissions only.


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 We are in the process of upgrading our peoplesoft app, using an oracle
 database of
 8.0.5 to 9i.  During the upgrade we still need access to the old 8.0.5
 database as readonly.
 
 I have read all the doc's but it appears I cannot open the database as
 read only.  Looks like
 I could if the version was 8i.
 
 Does anybody have any pointers on how I could accomplish this.
 
 Thanks
 
 Darren.
 
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RE: Oracle Version 8 as read only

2003-11-26 Thread Browett, Darren
Looks like that is what we will be doing, basically creating 
a generic user with read-only privileges.  All the current
users will have their password changed so they cannot access the
system.

Darren

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Darren,
Couldn't you just open the database with a user that has all the
necessary privileges revoked?

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Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

We are in the process of upgrading our peoplesoft app, using an oracle
database of
8.0.5 to 9i.  During the upgrade we still need access to the old 8.0.5
database as readonly.

I have read all the doc's but it appears I cannot open the database as
read only.  Looks like
I could if the version was 8i.

Does anybody have any pointers on how I could accomplish this.

Thanks

Darren.

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Re: Oracle Version 8 as read only

2003-11-26 Thread Tim Gorman
Consider also using ALTER USER xxx ACCOUNT LOCK instead of changing the
passwords...


on 11/26/03 6:49 PM, Browett, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks like that is what we will be doing, basically creating
 a generic user with read-only privileges.  All the current
 users will have their password changed so they cannot access the
 system.
 
 Darren
 
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 Darren,
 Couldn't you just open the database with a user that has all the
 necessary privileges revoked?
 
 -Original Message-
 Browett, Darren
 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:44 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 We are in the process of upgrading our peoplesoft app, using an oracle
 database of
 8.0.5 to 9i.  During the upgrade we still need access to the old 8.0.5
 database as readonly.
 
 I have read all the doc's but it appears I cannot open the database as
 read only.  Looks like
 I could if the version was 8i.
 
 Does anybody have any pointers on how I could accomplish this.
 
 Thanks
 
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oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread kommareddy sreenivasa
Hello All,

OS: Solaris
DB: Oracle

Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
patchset level the oracle home is ?

when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
other.

How to know exactly at which version the $ORACLE_HOME
is?

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RE: oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread Hatzistavrou John
From sql : select * from product_component_version;
It can either be shown when logging into sqlplus (check the headers).

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Hello All,

OS: Solaris
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Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
patchset level the oracle home is ?

when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
other.

How to know exactly at which version the $ORACLE_HOME
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RE: oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread Santosh Varma
select banner
from   sys.v_$version;

will give u the version number 

santosh

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Hello All,

OS: Solaris
DB: Oracle

Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
patchset level the oracle home is ?

when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
other.

How to know exactly at which version the $ORACLE_HOME
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Re: FW: oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread kommareddy sreenivasa
Hi,

I need it to check from O/S level. not from database
level.

can somebody give any hints.

Thanks and Regards,
Srinivas


 
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 From sql : select * from product_component_version;
 It can either be shown when logging into sqlplus
 (check the headers).
 
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 Hello All,
 
 OS: Solaris
 DB: Oracle
 
 Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
 patchset level the oracle home is ?
 
 when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
 whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
 other.
 
 How to know exactly at which version the
 $ORACLE_HOME
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 Thanks and regards,
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Re: FW: oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread babu . nagarajan

did u try the inventory logs ?



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Hi,

I need it to check from O/S level. not from database
level.

can somebody give any hints.

Thanks and Regards,
Srinivas



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 From sql : select * from product_component_version;
 It can either be shown when logging into sqlplus
 (check the headers).

 Kind Regards,


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 OS: Solaris
 DB: Oracle

 Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
 patchset level the oracle home is ?

 when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
 whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
 other.

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Re: Oracle version??

2003-02-27 Thread Chip
In the registry My 
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE\inst_loc specifies the
location of the inventory folder (defaults to C:\Program 
Files\Oracle\Inventory).  Note: some Oracle patches
do replace oracle.exe without using the Oracle Universal Installer (OUI) 
so the inventory would have no
record of the patch (e.g. 8.1.7.4.6).  Inside the inventory folder, 
Components and Patches have folders
for components installed by OUI.  For example, my inventory folder 
contains these folders:
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Components\oracle.server\8.1.7.0.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Components\oracle.server\9.0.1.1.1\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Components\oracle.server\9.2.0.1.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Patches\oracle.rdbms\8.1.7.4.1\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Patches\oracle.rdbms\9.0.1.4.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Patches\oracle.rdbms\9.2.0.2.1\1\resources

Note: the version numbers (folder names) do match my OUI installation of 
Oracle servers and patches.

When using Windows XP Pro, the properties of oracle.exe is interesting - 
the version displayed near the
top is 0.0.0.0, yet the File Version near the bottom of the dialog box 
does display the correct version.
Wonder how Windows XP Pro finds the correct version, while Windows 2000 
Pro can't see it.

Have Fun :)

Rajesh Dayal wrote:

Hi Sunil,
	The tragedy is that even if you logon to database, you may not find the precise
patch level from database.
	The best location is  orainventory/log directory. OK on MS machines
C:\Program Files\Oracle\Inventory\logs. Go to this directory and check the latest log 
file from this location.

HTH,
Rajesh
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List,

Can Oracle version be determined based on size of Oracle.EXE file on
Windows?
I am looking for a valid way of determining the patch level without having
to log onto the database and check
v$instance.
appreciate any feedback.

Sunil Nookala
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RE: Oracle version??

2003-02-27 Thread Stephane Faroult
List,

Can Oracle version be determined based on size of
Oracle.EXE file on
Windows?
I am looking for a valid way of determining the
patch level without having
to log onto the database and check
v$instance.

appreciate any feedback.

Sunil Nookala
Dell Corp.
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What if the only differences are in DLLs ? 

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RE: Oracle version??

2003-02-27 Thread Rajesh Dayal
Hi Chip,

I am talking of log directory(N:\Oracle\Inventory\logs and not
N:\Oracle\Inventory\components), where every Installer action is logged
and not . This doesn't matter whether your Oracle.exe is replaced or
not. All of your OUI actions will be logged with all the relevant
information and typically the file names are of following format.

installActions2003-01-21_12-01-02PM.log

So if you put little extra effort digging these files (depending on
size, timestamp etc.) you can find out what is last activity you
performed on what ORACLE_HOME and so the precise patch level is also
available there...

And that YP-ZP I mean XP, I would really hate to see a
Oracle Database on that ;-)...

Cheers,
Rajesh
 

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

In the registry My
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE\inst_loc specifies the
location of the inventory folder (defaults to C:\Program
Files\Oracle\Inventory).  Note: some Oracle patches
do replace oracle.exe without using the Oracle Universal Installer (OUI)
so the inventory would have no
record of the patch (e.g. 8.1.7.4.6).  Inside the inventory folder,
Components and Patches have folders
for components installed by OUI.  For example, my inventory folder
contains these folders:
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Components\oracle.server\8.1.7.0.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Components\oracle.server\9.0.1.1.1\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Components\oracle.server\9.2.0.1.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Patches\oracle.rdbms\8.1.7.4.1\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Patches\oracle.rdbms\9.0.1.4.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Patches\oracle.rdbms\9.2.0.2.1\1\resources

Note: the version numbers (folder names) do match my OUI installation of
Oracle servers and patches.

When using Windows XP Pro, the properties of oracle.exe is interesting -
the version displayed near the
top is 0.0.0.0, yet the File Version near the bottom of the dialog box
does display the correct version.
Wonder how Windows XP Pro finds the correct version, while Windows 2000
Pro can't see it.

Have Fun :)

Rajesh Dayal wrote:

Hi Sunil,
   The tragedy is that even if you logon to database, you may not
find the precise
patch level from database.
   The best location is  orainventory/log directory. OK on MS
machines
C:\Program Files\Oracle\Inventory\logs. Go to this directory and check
the latest log
file from this location.

HTH,
Rajesh
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List,

Can Oracle version be determined based on size of Oracle.EXE file on
Windows?
I am looking for a valid way of determining the patch level without
having
to log onto the database and check
v$instance.

appreciate any feedback.

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Re: Oracle version??

2003-02-27 Thread Chip




My inventory logs (19 files, 16.6 MB) do have a verbose record of OUI actions.
Note: all the installation logs can be deleted to clean up space. Also,
the inventory
logs only record OUI actions. The Oracle 8.1.7.4.6 patch installation does
not
use OUI (the DBA manually copies many files into the Oracle Home), which
does
cause a mismatch between the inventory version and the actual version installed.

On the OUI opening screen, the "Installed Products..." button can be used
to
display the current inventory. Thus, I was looking in the inventory folder
trying to
guess what OUI is using. Looking again, I found some more interesting folders:
N:\Oracle\Inventory\PatchSets\oracle.server\8.1.7.4.1\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\PatchSets\oracle.server\9.0.1.4.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\PatchSets\oracle.server\9.2.0.2.1\1\resources

The inventory folders does provide a way to quickly get an idea of the oracle
server version(s) installed by OUI. Use the inst_loc registry key to find
the inventory
location, then look for "oracle.server" within "Components" and "PatchSets";
the
included folders have the version numbers.

Have Fun :)

Rajesh Dayal wrote:

  Hi Chip,

I am talking of log directory(N:\Oracle\Inventory\logs and not
N:\Oracle\Inventory\components), where every Installer action is logged
and not . This doesn't matter whether your Oracle.exe is replaced or
not. All of your OUI actions will be logged with all the relevant
information and typically the file names are of following format.

installActions2003-01-21_12-01-02PM.log

So if you put little extra effort digging these files (depending on
size, timestamp etc.) you can find out what is last activity you
performed on what ORACLE_HOME and so the precise patch level is also
available there...

And that YP-ZP I mean XP, I would really hate to see a
Oracle Database on that ;-)...

Cheers,
Rajesh
 

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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:59 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

In the registry "My
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE\inst_loc" specifies the
location of the inventory folder (defaults to C:\Program
Files\Oracle\Inventory).  Note: some Oracle patches
do replace oracle.exe without using the Oracle Universal Installer (OUI)
so the inventory would have no
record of the patch (e.g. 8.1.7.4.6).  Inside the inventory folder,
"Components" and "Patches" have folders
for components installed by OUI.  For example, my inventory folder
contains these folders:
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Components\oracle.server\8.1.7.0.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Components\oracle.server\9.0.1.1.1\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Components\oracle.server\9.2.0.1.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Patches\oracle.rdbms\8.1.7.4.1\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Patches\oracle.rdbms\9.0.1.4.0\1\resources
N:\Oracle\Inventory\Patches\oracle.rdbms\9.2.0.2.1\1\resources

Note: the version numbers (folder names) do match my OUI installation of
Oracle servers and patches.

When using Windows XP Pro, the properties of oracle.exe is interesting -
the version displayed near the
top is 0.0.0.0, yet the "File Version" near the bottom of the dialog box
does display the correct version.
Wonder how Windows XP Pro finds the correct version, while Windows 2000
Pro can't see it.

Have Fun :)

Rajesh Dayal wrote:

  
  
Hi Sunil,
  The tragedy is that even if you logon to database, you may not

  
  find the precise
  
  
patch level from database.
  The best location is  orainventory/log directory. OK on MS

  
  machines
  
  
C:\Program Files\Oracle\Inventory\logs. Go to this directory and check

  
  the latest log
  
  
file from this location.

HTH,
Rajesh
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List,

Can Oracle version be determined based on size of Oracle.EXE file on
Windows?
I am looking for a valid way of determining the patch level without

  
  having
  
  
to log onto the database and check
v$instance.

appreciate any feedback.

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Oracle version??

2003-02-26 Thread Sunil_Nookala
List,

Can Oracle version be determined based on size of Oracle.EXE file on
Windows?
I am looking for a valid way of determining the patch level without having
to log onto the database and check
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appreciate any feedback.

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RE: Oracle version??

2003-02-26 Thread Rajesh Dayal
Hi Sunil,
The tragedy is that even if you logon to database, you may not find the precise
patch level from database.
The best location is  orainventory/log directory. OK on MS machines
C:\Program Files\Oracle\Inventory\logs. Go to this directory and check the latest log 
file from this location.

HTH,
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List,

Can Oracle version be determined based on size of Oracle.EXE file on
Windows?
I am looking for a valid way of determining the patch level without having
to log onto the database and check
v$instance.

appreciate any feedback.

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RE: Oracle version??

2003-02-26 Thread Cary Millsap
I just plugged through a $ strings oracle to see if the version
information is in there anyplace. On an 8.1.7 kernel, I was surprised to
find that version numbers all the way from 8.0.0 through 8.2.0 show up
in the file. The string I was really looking for was Oracle8i
Enterprise Edition Release %d.%d.%d.%d.%d %s--the release number is
stored in five separate variables, which are printed through this printf
format string...

However, there are a couple of tricks you might engage. I just did this
on my Linux system and found what version my kernel *thinks* it is:

$ strace -s100 oracle 21 | grep Oracle.*Release

This strace command catches the kernel's write() call of the release
number into a background trace file. You could also look at the
background trace files if you wanted to conserve the overhead of
invoking the oracle executable. The thing exit()s, so I think it's safe
to run it this way, but you probably don't want the side effects of
extra trace file writing, etc.

I think peeking into the trace file is a possible solution for you, but
then I'd take the wise advice of people of those on the list who might
be able to prove that the kernel can actually lie about its own release
number...


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Hi Sunil,
The tragedy is that even if you logon to database, you may not
find the precise
patch level from database.
The best location is  orainventory/log directory. OK on MS
machines
C:\Program Files\Oracle\Inventory\logs. Go to this directory and check
the latest log 
file from this location.

HTH,
Rajesh
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List,

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Windows?
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v$instance.

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Re: same sql: different db block gets in different oracle version

2003-01-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Tablescans in Oracle 8 start with 4 current
gets (db block gets) on the segment header
block - in Oracle 9 tablescans start with
2 consistent gets on the segment header.

I can't tell you why you have 12 current gets
rather than 4 - but if the tests aren't identical,
the physical reads and extra current gets may
be related to delayed cleanout on a first read.



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Hi, dba friends:

 Look at the following test result, the first one is from oracle9.2,
and the second is from the oracle 817. The table is same, and as you
see, the execution path is the same.
 But there is difference in statistics: db_block_gets, in oracle92,
it is 0, and in oracle817, it is not.
 And i noticed that in oracle8i, all sql that does only query with
execution path full scan of table/index,there will always be
db_block_gets, while in 9i, select won't make db_block_gets.
 As tom said, db_block_gets is increased when data is accessed for
update, how does this query generate this statistics?


ORA92 select count(*) from abc;

  COUNT(*)
--
 1

Execution Plan
--
   0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=6 Card=1)
   1 0 SORT (AGGREGATE)
   2 1 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'ABC' (Cost=6 Card=1)

Statistics
--
  0 recursive calls
  0 db block gets
 27 consistent gets
  0 physical reads
  0 redo size
379 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
503 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0 sorts (memory)
  0 sorts (disk)
  1 rows processed

ORA817 select count(*) from abc;

  COUNT(*)
--
 1

Elapsed: 00:00:00.26

Execution Plan
--
   0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE
   1 0 SORT (AGGREGATE)
   2 1 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'ABC'

Statistics
--
  0 recursive calls
 12 db block gets
 28 consistent gets
 24 physical reads
  0 redo size
367 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
425 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0 sorts (memory)
  0 sorts (disk)
  1 rows processed


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RE: same sql: different db block gets in different oracle version

2003-01-22 Thread Sony kristanto
Check your setting parameter for db_block_gets and compare between oracle9.2
and oracle817. Is it equivalent setting parameter ?

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 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  same sql: different db block gets in different oracle
 version 
 
 Hi, dba friends:
   
   Look at the following test result, the first one is from oracle9.2,
 and the second is from the oracle 817. The table is same, and as you see,
 the execution path is the same.
   But there is difference in statistics: db_block_gets, in oracle92,
 it is 0, and in oracle817, it is not.
   And i noticed that in oracle8i, all sql that does only query with
 execution path full scan of table/index,there will always be
 db_block_gets, while in 9i, select won't make db_block_gets.
   As tom said, db_block_gets is increased when data is accessed for
 update, how does this query generate this statistics? 
   
   
 ORA92 select count(*) from abc; 
 
   COUNT(*) 
 -- 
  1 
 
 Execution Plan 
 -- 
0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=6 Card=1) 
1 0 SORT (AGGREGATE) 
2 1 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'ABC' (Cost=6 Card=1) 
 
 Statistics 
 -- 
   0 recursive calls 
   0 db block gets 
  27 consistent gets 
   0 physical reads 
   0 redo size 
 379 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client 
 503 bytes received via SQL*Net from client 
   2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client 
   0 sorts (memory) 
   0 sorts (disk) 
   1 rows processed 
 
 ORA817 select count(*) from abc; 
 
   COUNT(*) 
 -- 
  1 
 
 Elapsed: 00:00:00.26 
 
 Execution Plan 
 -- 
0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE 
1 0 SORT (AGGREGATE) 
2 1 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'ABC' 
 
 Statistics 
 -- 
   0 recursive calls 
  12 db block gets 
  28 consistent gets 
  24 physical reads 
   0 redo size 
 367 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client 
 425 bytes received via SQL*Net from client 
   2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client 
   0 sorts (memory) 
   0 sorts (disk) 
   1 rows processed 
 
 
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Re: Re: same sql: different db block gets in different oracle version

2003-01-22 Thread chao_ping
Jonathan Lewis,
Thanks very much for your reply. Yes, in oracle 8i on sun solaris, the 
db block gets of fulltable scan is always 4block, no matter what the size of the table 
is. But in my tests in linux/817, it always show 12(8170 and 8172).I run the full scan 
again and again, but the value does not change.
And another problem is why in oracle9i, there is no db_block_gets when 
doing full segment scan.I checked asktom.oracle.com, but unable to find the answer. 
And i also tested 9.0.1 on sun solaris , when very small, db_block_gets is 6,while 
larger tables(12K records from dba_tables), db_block_gets is 12.  
Scanning the segment header caused the current mode read,is it because 
of scanning the buffer pool head and getting the cache buffer chains latch in 
exclusive mode,and the buffer head will be moved the other end lru list? why scanning 
the other data block does not cause the current read? Sorry, I asked to much, and 
maybe they are meanless, but if possible, I still want to know. 

Sony kristanto, what kind of parameters do you think will affect the 
db_block_gets? I will post them.
Thanks.




Regards
zhu chao
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www.happyit.net
www.cnoug.org(China Oracle User Group)

=== 2003-01-22 00:33:00 ,you wrote£º===

Tablescans in Oracle 8 start with 4 current
gets (db block gets) on the segment header
block - in Oracle 9 tablescans start with
2 consistent gets on the segment header.

I can't tell you why you have 12 current gets
rather than 4 - but if the tests aren't identical,
the physical reads and extra current gets may
be related to delayed cleanout on a first read.



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Re: same sql: different db block gets in different oracle version

2003-01-22 Thread Arup Nanda
Cho,

This is not unusual. I suspect your db_cache_size (or db_block_buffers) in
9.2 is more than db_block_buffers in 8.1. When you do a FTS, all the blocks
are loaded into the buffers first time so 'db block gets' is a non zero
value (it's the physical IO). The next time you do this, the blocks are
found in the buffer already, so there is no physical IO, hence a zero value
for 'db block gets'. However, your logical reads (consistent gets) should be
the same and they are the same. In 817, run the query once again and see the
'db block gets' , it should be 0. If not then check if db_block_buffers is
less than db_cache_size (or db_block_buffers) in 9.2.

HTH.

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 Hi, dba friends:

 Look at the following test result, the first one is from oracle9.2, and
the second is from the oracle 817. The table is same, and as you see, the
execution path is the same.
 But there is difference in statistics: db_block_gets, in oracle92, it is
0, and in oracle817, it is not.
 And i noticed that in oracle8i, all sql that does only query with
execution path full scan of table/index,there will always be db_block_gets,
while in 9i, select won't make db_block_gets.
 As tom said, db_block_gets is increased when data is accessed for update,
how does this query generate this statistics?


 ORA92 select count(*) from abc;

   COUNT(*)
 --
  1

 Execution Plan
 --
0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=6 Card=1)
1 0 SORT (AGGREGATE)
2 1 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'ABC' (Cost=6 Card=1)

 Statistics
 --
   0 recursive calls
   0 db block gets
  27 consistent gets
   0 physical reads
   0 redo size
 379 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
 503 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
   2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
   0 sorts (memory)
   0 sorts (disk)
   1 rows processed

 ORA817 select count(*) from abc;

   COUNT(*)
 --
  1

 Elapsed: 00:00:00.26

 Execution Plan
 --
0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE
1 0 SORT (AGGREGATE)
2 1 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'ABC'

 Statistics
 --
   0 recursive calls
  12 db block gets
  28 consistent gets
  24 physical reads
   0 redo size
 367 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
 425 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
   2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
   0 sorts (memory)
   0 sorts (disk)
   1 rows processed


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Re: Re: same sql: different db block gets in different oracle version

2003-01-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis

One reason for seeing more db_block_gets
than you expect on a full segment scan
is that every extent map block (of which
the segment header block is just one)
is accessed differently.  If you have small
extents and large objects, you may have
overshoot the maximum extents allowed
in the segment header block - so the 12
db_block_gets could indicate 2 extra
map blocks.

NOTE - Oracle 9 simply does not do
4 CU gets on map blocks.

8.14 CU gets per map block
9.22 CR gets per map block
9.02 gets, but can't remember if they are CU or CR

Also - bigger tables = more map blocks may have been used


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version


Jonathan Lewis,
Thanks very much for your reply. Yes, in oracle 8i on sun solaris, the
db block gets of fulltable scan is always 4block, no matter what the
size of the table is. But in my tests in linux/817, it always show
12(8170 and 8172).I run the full scan again and again, but the value
does not change.
And another problem is why in oracle9i, there is no db_block_gets when
doing full segment scan.I checked asktom.oracle.com, but unable to
find the answer. And i also tested 9.0.1 on sun solaris , when very
small, db_block_gets is 6,while larger tables(12K records from
dba_tables), db_block_gets is 12.
Scanning the segment header caused the current mode read,is it because
of scanning the buffer pool head and getting the cache buffer chains
latch in exclusive mode,and the buffer head will be moved the other
end lru list? why scanning the other data block does not cause the
current read? Sorry, I asked to much, and maybe they are meanless, but
if possible, I still want to know.

Sony kristanto, what kind of parameters do you think will affect the
db_block_gets? I will post them.
Thanks.



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same sql: different db block gets in different oracle version

2003-01-21 Thread chao_ping
Hi, dba friends:

Look at the following test result, the first one is from oracle9.2, and the 
second is from the oracle 817. The table is same, and as you see, the execution path 
is the same.
But there is difference in statistics: db_block_gets, in oracle92, it is 0, 
and in oracle817, it is not.
And i noticed that in oracle8i, all sql that does only query with execution 
path full scan of table/index,there will always be db_block_gets, while in 9i, select 
won't make db_block_gets.
As tom said, db_block_gets is increased when data is accessed for update, how 
does this query generate this statistics? 


ORA92 select count(*) from abc; 

  COUNT(*) 
-- 
 1 

Execution Plan 
-- 
   0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=6 Card=1) 
   1 0 SORT (AGGREGATE) 
   2 1 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'ABC' (Cost=6 Card=1) 

Statistics 
-- 
  0 recursive calls 
  0 db block gets 
 27 consistent gets 
  0 physical reads 
  0 redo size 
379 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client 
503 bytes received via SQL*Net from client 
  2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client 
  0 sorts (memory) 
  0 sorts (disk) 
  1 rows processed 

ORA817 select count(*) from abc; 

  COUNT(*) 
-- 
 1 

Elapsed: 00:00:00.26 

Execution Plan 
-- 
   0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE 
   1 0 SORT (AGGREGATE) 
   2 1 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'ABC' 

Statistics 
-- 
  0 recursive calls 
 12 db block gets 
 28 consistent gets 
 24 physical reads 
  0 redo size 
367 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client 
425 bytes received via SQL*Net from client 
  2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client 
  0 sorts (memory) 
  0 sorts (disk) 
  1 rows processed 


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Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

I know this was discussed a short time ago, but how do I determine if the
Oracle 817 version installed on a Sun Unix box is 32 or 64 bit?

I'm looking at migrating to 9.2/64 bit and noticed that I cannot directly
migrate a 32bit version to 64 bit.

Thanks

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RE: Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

file $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle

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I know this was discussed a short time ago, but how do I determine if the
Oracle 817 version installed on a Sun Unix box is 32 or 64 bit?

I'm looking at migrating to 9.2/64 bit and noticed that I cannot directly
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  I have a problem with normal users monitoring
  locks. 
  
  
  Do you consider developers to be normal users? Given the 
  number of locking problems which you can trace back to the 
  code, I would have no problem in that case.
  
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Re: Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread Glenn Stauffer

file $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle


On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 15:03, Mercadante, Thomas F wrote:
 I know this was discussed a short time ago, but how do I determine if the
 Oracle 817 version installed on a Sun Unix box is 32 or 64 bit?
 
 I'm looking at migrating to 9.2/64 bit and noticed that I cannot directly
 migrate a 32bit version to 64 bit.
 
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RE: Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread Shaw John-P55297

Just login with sqlplus you'll get:
Connected to:
Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP and Oracle Data Mining options
JServer Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production

If it's 64 bit it tells you.

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  I have a problem with normal users monitoring
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  code, I would have no problem in that case.
  
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RE: Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread Ji, Richard

There are couple of methods to determine it.  One is when you
login as sqlplus, it will show the word 64 bit in the banner.

Or if you do file $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle
oracle: ELF 64-bit MSB executable SPARCV9 Version 1, dynamically
linked, not stripped

It shows whether is a 32bit or 64bit executable.


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I know this was discussed a short time ago, but how do I determine if the
Oracle 817 version installed on a Sun Unix box is 32 or 64 bit?

I'm looking at migrating to 9.2/64 bit and noticed that I cannot directly
migrate a 32bit version to 64 bit.

Thanks

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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My house is insured and I'm contemplating a ground up redecoration.
As for being an infidel, the God is great and Larry Wall is his prophet.
I'm a true believer.


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 From: Naveen Nahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:30 PM
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 Subject: RE: Re: View Locks
 
 
 Please don't use wrong words like these for the Al Qaida 
 members, you risk
 termed an 'infidel' and getting your house attacked by a 
 suicide bomber :-)
 
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Nope. Developers are not normal users and Al Quaida members are not
 normal members of society. Both are very dangerous.
 
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  I have a problem with normal users monitoring
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  Do you consider developers to be normal users? Given the 
  number of locking problems which you can trace back to the 
  code, I would have no problem in that case.
  
  Regards,
  
  Stephane Faroult
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RE: Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread Markham, Richard
Title: RE: Oracle Version on Unix





Chapter 7 Section Changing the Word-Size of your Current Release
within the Oracle 9i Database Migration Manual.


I dont see why you couldn't do: file ${ORACLE_HOME}/bin/oracle to 
determine the word size.


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I know this was discussed a short time ago, but how do I determine if the
Oracle 817 version installed on a Sun Unix box is 32 or 64 bit?


I'm looking at migrating to 9.2/64 bit and noticed that I cannot directly
migrate a 32bit version to 64 bit.


Thanks


Tom Mercadante
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My house is insured and I'm contemplating a ground up redecoration.
As for being an infidel, the God is great and Larry Wall is his prophet.
I'm a true believer.



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 Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:44 PM
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 Nope. Developers are not normal users and Al Quaida members are not
 normal members of society. Both are very dangerous.
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:09 AM
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  Subject: RE: Re: View Locks
  
  
  
  I have a problem with normal users monitoring
  locks. 
  
  
  Do you consider developers to be normal users? Given the 
  number of locking problems which you can trace back to the 
  code, I would have no problem in that case.
  
  Regards,
  
  Stephane Faroult
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RE: Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Go to $ORACLE_HOME/lib and do
nm ibclntsh.so|grep fgetpos64

If your output is nonempty, your oracle is 64 bit.

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 Subject: Oracle Version on Unix
 
 
 I know this was discussed a short time ago, but how do I 
 determine if the
 Oracle 817 version installed on a Sun Unix box is 32 or 64 bit?
 
 I'm looking at migrating to 9.2/64 bit and noticed that I 
 cannot directly
 migrate a 32bit version to 64 bit.
 
 Thanks
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:18 PM
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 My house is insured and I'm contemplating a ground up redecoration.
 As for being an infidel, the God is great and Larry Wall is 
 his prophet.
 I'm a true believer.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Naveen Nahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:30 PM
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  Please don't use wrong words like these for the Al Qaida 
  members, you risk
  termed an 'infidel' and getting your house attacked by a 
  suicide bomber :-)
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:44 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  Nope. Developers are not normal users and Al Quaida members are not
  normal members of society. Both are very dangerous.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Stephane Faroult [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:09 AM
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   Subject: RE: Re: View Locks
   
   
   
   I have a problem with normal users monitoring
   locks. 
   
   
   Do you consider developers to be normal users? Given the 
   number of locking problems which you can trace back to the 
   code, I would have no problem in that case.
   
   Regards,
   
   Stephane Faroult
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RE: Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Dennis,

You da'man.  Thank you!

Tom Mercadante
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file $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle

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I know this was discussed a short time ago, but how do I determine if the
Oracle 817 version installed on a Sun Unix box is 32 or 64 bit?

I'm looking at migrating to 9.2/64 bit and noticed that I cannot directly
migrate a 32bit version to 64 bit.

Thanks

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


My house is insured and I'm contemplating a ground up redecoration.
As for being an infidel, the God is great and Larry Wall is his prophet.
I'm a true believer.


 -Original Message-
 From: Naveen Nahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:30 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Re: View Locks
 
 
 Please don't use wrong words like these for the Al Qaida 
 members, you risk
 termed an 'infidel' and getting your house attacked by a 
 suicide bomber :-)
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:44 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Nope. Developers are not normal users and Al Quaida members are not
 normal members of society. Both are very dangerous.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephane Faroult [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:09 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: Re: View Locks
  
  
  
  I have a problem with normal users monitoring
  locks. 
  
  
  Do you consider developers to be normal users? Given the 
  number of locking problems which you can trace back to the 
  code, I would have no problem in that case.
  
  Regards,
  
  Stephane Faroult
  Oriole
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RE: Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread Molina, Gerardo

If you are using the manual upgrade method, then you can go from 32-bit
8.1.7 to 64-bit 9.2.0.1 directly.  Don't quote me though, because all the
documentation I have seen says that you have to first go from 32-bit 8.1.7
to 32-bit 9.2.0.1 and then to 64-bit 9.2.0.1.  I think Oracle is just being
extra cautious here.

I have recently upgraded (manual upgrade) a dev database from 32-bit 8.1.7
to 64-bit 9.2.0.1 (directly) and so far have not seen anything unusual.

HTH,
Gerardo

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Dennis,

You da'man.  Thank you!

Tom Mercadante
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file $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle

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I know this was discussed a short time ago, but how do I determine if the
Oracle 817 version installed on a Sun Unix box is 32 or 64 bit?

I'm looking at migrating to 9.2/64 bit and noticed that I cannot directly
migrate a 32bit version to 64 bit.

Thanks

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


My house is insured and I'm contemplating a ground up redecoration.
As for being an infidel, the God is great and Larry Wall is his prophet.
I'm a true believer.


 -Original Message-
 From: Naveen Nahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:30 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Re: View Locks
 
 
 Please don't use wrong words like these for the Al Qaida 
 members, you risk
 termed an 'infidel' and getting your house attacked by a 
 suicide bomber :-)
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:44 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Nope. Developers are not normal users and Al Quaida members are not
 normal members of society. Both are very dangerous.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephane Faroult [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:09 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: Re: View Locks
  
  
  
  I have a problem with normal users monitoring
  locks. 
  
  
  Do you consider developers to be normal users? Given the 
  number of locking problems which you can trace back to the 
  code, I would have no problem in that case.
  
  Regards,
  
  Stephane Faroult
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Oracle Version Numbers Explained

2002-07-29 Thread cjgait

There was some discussion recently (in the thread on Apache and 
iAS) on version numbers of Oracle and how confusing they have 
become. 

Here is a document that explains the version numbers, at least for 
the RDBMS. It lost it's authorship along the way, so forgive me for 
not crediting it.

If you have ever wondered what an Oracle release number
really means; included below is the break down and how to find out 
what you are running via a query against a Data Dictionary view.  It 
has changed a little starting with Release 9.2.

For the Release number:   9.2.0.1.0  ,  the significance of 
each number  (reading from left to right)  is shown below:

Number  Significance__

 9 1 Major database release number
 2 1 Database maintenance release number
 0 1 Application server release number
 1 1Component specific release number
 0 1Platform specific release number

( Starting with release 9.2, maintenance releases of Oracle 
are denoted by a change to the second digit of a release number. 
In previous releases, the third digit indicated a particular 
maintenance release.)

Major Database Release Number

This is the most general identifier. It represents a major new
edition (or version) of the software that contains significant new
functionality.

Database Maintenance Release Number

This digit represents a maintenance release level. Some new 
features may also be included.

Application Server Release Number

This digit reflects the release level of the Oracle9i Application
Server (Oracle9iAS).

Component Specific Release Number

This digit identifies a release level specific to a component.
Different components can have different numbers in this position 
depending upon, for example, component patch sets or interim 
releases.

Platform Specific Release Number

This digit identifies a platform specific release. Usually this is 
a patch set. Where different platforms require the equivalent patch 
set, this digit will be the same across the effected platforms.


How to Check Your Current Release Number:

To identify the release of the Oracle database server that is
currently installed and to see the release levels of other Oracle 
components you are using, query the Data Dictionary view 
PRODUCT_COMPONENT_VERSION. 

Here is a sample query.

  (Yes, the old instructor part of me wants your Sql*Plus 
session to be readable, so included are 3 Sql*Plus commands 
before the query since each of these column widths are 65.:-) 
)

COL PRODUCT   FORMAT A40
COL VERSIONFORMAT A15
COL STATUS  FORMAT A15 

SELECT  *  FROM   PRODUCT_COMPONENT_VERSION;

PRODUCTVERSION
STATUS
---
---   
NLSRTL  9.2.0.1.0
Production
Oracle9i Enterprise Edition  9.2.0.1.0
Production
PL/SQL   9.2.0.1.0
Production
TNS for Solaris: 9.2.0.1.0
Production  


Optionally, you can query against the V$VERSION view to 
see component-level information as well.

(Other product release levels may increment independently of the database 
server.)

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RE: Oracle version usage

2002-05-17 Thread Miller, Jay

At a recent NYOUG meeting the question was asked of of around 150 or so
attendees (very rough estimate) how many had 9i on a production system.
Two people raised their hands.  

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I am especially interested in percentage of 7.3 and 8.0 installation. Maybe
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Re: Oracle version usage

2002-05-17 Thread Ray Stell

On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 02:03:25PM -0800, Miller, Jay wrote:
 At a recent NYOUG meeting the question was asked of of around 150 or so
 attendees (very rough estimate) how many had 9i on a production system.
 Two people raised their hands.  
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similar experience at Atlantic Oracle Training Conference
a few weeks ago in D.C.
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RE: Oracle version usage

2002-05-14 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Hey Alex,

How are things hanging down in our lovely captial?  BTW, are you still down
there?

I seem to remember reading about something like this either in the IOUG rag
or on the website.

Perhaps you would be willing to take a poll on the list?  If Jared doesn't
mind?  Everyone email you directly?  A few simple poll questions?

CYA

Chris

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RE: Oracle version usage

2002-05-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Alex - There was an article about Oracle that came out recently in the
media. Toward the bottom it listed a percentage of production systems that
were using 9i. It was pretty small, as expected. I poked around a little,
but couldn't locate the article in the time I had available.
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RE: Oracle version usage

2002-05-14 Thread Alex Hillman

I am especially interested in percentage of 7.3 and 8.0 installation. Maybe
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RE: Oracle version usage

2002-05-13 Thread Alex Hillman

Maybe the question was not correctly formulated. Anybody has some knowledge
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Oracle version usage

2002-05-10 Thread Alex Hillman

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Oracle Version for New Database

2001-03-21 Thread Fowler, Kenneth R

All,

I am trying to decide on a version of Oracle for a new database that will
hold a number of small apps, mainly web apps using apache web server.  Last
time I set up a database I used 8.1.6.2.1 (this is Solaris 2.6 BTW) and I
had no end of problems with incremental snapshots causing "waited too long
for row cache enque lock" in the alert log file which I believe is now a
known problem with simple replication in this version.

Does anyone know if the problem is fixed in a more recent version?  What
would be a good choice for a new database to hopefully provide both a stable
RDBMS as well as access to new features etc?

Thanks,
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