Precise Purchased by Veritas
Title: Message Just saw this, perhaps it's old news. http://www.veritas.com/news/press/FeatureArticleDetail.jhtml?NewsId=21558
RE: Precise
Title: RE: Precise First a disclaimer (since this is going to sound like a love feast). I do not have any ties to Precise Software Solutions nor do I receive any material gain from your purchasing decision. We've been using it since day one of its release. It has many of the features common to most application monitoring tools. What those other tools can't do is prevent themselves from impacting the database. Precise/SQL takes snapshots of the memory that makes up the SGA and interprets the internal data structures. It doesn't need to connect and select from x$ or v$ tables and views. This allows you to crank up the sampling interval to sub-seconds without any impact on your live instance; let me repeat that, without any impact. If you've ever tried to execute those public-domain scripts to get Worst Offender SQL, Most Waits, V$SESSION_WAIT, etc. you know what I mean. Then there is all of the nice filtering/capture/graphing/printing to boot. We got our ROI on the first day we installed the tool. We were able to detect an intermittent problem that kept eluding us. The condition occurred so quickly that we couldn't catch it via V$ mere mortal methods, or was so severe that the database hung. We cranked up the sampling interval to something like 50 times per second to catch the problem. We have a very complicated environment, from the DBA perspective (150+ databases, home-grown as well as PeopleSoft, Siebel, Retek packages, OLTP, DW, warehouse fulfillment, web-deployed Forms/Reports, ASP, JSP, OAS 4.8, an much more) and without this tool we wouldn't be able to turn around performance issues as quickly as we do. Oh, and BTW, support is top-notch. These folks really got their act together. On the down side you ask? Pricing; eclectic user interface (if you're used to the Windows UI); another tool to manage; SQL tuning support for hints is cumbersome (we cut-n-paste into SQLLab and move on); you'll have to learn to tune from the resource consumption and wait time perspectives. None of these are real show-stoppers, even pricing when you factor your increased productivity. I didn't forget Pulse. We have release 2.1. Wait for the next release. 'Nuff said. HTH Tony Aponte -Original Message- From: O'Neill, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Precise Is no-one on this list using Precise SQL or Precise Pulse?. Has anyone "heard" of them or evaluated them?. Sean :) Rookie Data Base Administrator Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA Organon (Ireland) Ltd. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscribed: Digest Mode] Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oracle-OCP-DBA "Nobody loves me but my mother... and she could be jivin' too." - BB King -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Precise
Hi! O'Neill, Sean writes: > Is no-one on this list using Precise SQL or Precise Pulse?. Has anyone > "heard" of them or evaluated them?. We are using Precise/SQL for over a year now. I like the ability to find any correlation between a statement, the calling users, the calling sessions, the host user or machine, the program used and the resources consumed (CPU, I/Os on different data files, locks, ...). It also includes a performance warehouse which keeps instance statistics and a history for schema changes. It is also possible to keep execution plans in the warehouse and monitor changes over time, but we haven't set this up yet. -- Stefan -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stefan Moeding INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Precise
I've tested it. It's good but expensive. You can have an accounting and transform it into with graphics showing you the waits in order of importance. When I say accounting I mean that save all sqls through a period of time. F.e. you want to know what happens in the night window and then schedule the tool to save all the activity and then you can see what was the worst wait. Then you can easily compare with the same day of another week. It doesn't consume much memory. However it could consume much space in file system depending on what you want to save. And except for explain plans it doesn't connect to database. Regards. --- "O'Neill, Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is no-one on this list using Precise SQL or Precise > Pulse?. Has anyone > "heard" of them or evaluated them?. > > > Sean :) > > Rookie Data Base Administrator > Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K > [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA > [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA > > Organon (Ireland) Ltd. > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscribed: Digest > Mode] > > Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oracle-OCP-DBA > > "Nobody loves me but my mother... and she could be > jivin' too." - BB King > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: O'Neill, Sean > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: > (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet > access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information > (like subscribing). = Eng. Christian Trassens Senior DBA Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone : 541149816062 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christian Trassens INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Precise
Is no-one on this list using Precise SQL or Precise Pulse?. Has anyone "heard" of them or evaluated them?. Sean :) Rookie Data Base Administrator Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA Organon (Ireland) Ltd. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscribed: Digest Mode] Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oracle-OCP-DBA "Nobody loves me but my mother... and she could be jivin' too." - BB King -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Precise Pulse, SQL
Would appreciate feedback, good or bad, from those on the list using Precise/Pulse and Precise/SQL. From those who "looked" at it but did not go for it, why not? Sean :) Rookie Data Base Administrator Oracle 7.3.3, 8.0.5, 8.1.7 - NT, W2K [0%] OCP Oracle8i DBA [0%] OCP Oracle9i DBA Organon (Ireland) Ltd. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscribed: Digest Mode] Visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oracle-OCP-DBA "Nobody loves me but my mother... and she could be jivin' too." - BB King -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: O'Neill, Sean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Evaluation questions - Precise Tool
You need to detirmine what you are looking for before ANY of those questions can be answered. "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes." Christopher R. Spence OCP MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax:(707) 885-2275 Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:20 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Which Components of this Tool (Precise) are advisable ? How does it Compare with Other Tools ? Any Highlights ? Lastly Paying for a Tool , is it indeed Advisable OR are there any Freeware Tools which may be Good enough ? > -Original Message- > From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Evaluation questions > > > > Chaim, > > That could work. Logminer wasn't around when I first had this problem, > and I haven't spent time working with it. > > From what I know from listening to Joe present on it though, it would > be a more complicated process than I want. I'd have to be sure that > the dictionary map was always up to date, and I would have to go back > and look > through all the archived logs as well as the online ones, in case the > statement had been archived off. It also sounds like it would be > intensely > manual. > > Joe -- any thoughts on this? > > > I want something that runs FAST, so I can clear locks quickly. And > then go on to the fun stuff of killing duhvelopers. > > Rachel (today it is hot and humid here, and today the AC in the office > > doesn't work killing duhvelopers is looking like more and more > fun) > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: Evaluation questions > >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:51:19 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Rachel Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/31/2001 11:48:02 AM > > > >Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >cc:(bcc: Chaim Katz/Completions/Bombardier) > > > > > > > > > >Rachel, > > > >I don't know how to retreive the locking sql either, but reading this > > >discussion > >it occurred to me that 1) in v$session (of the blocked session) we > have > >the > >file#,block#,row# that is being waited on. Maybe with logminer (or > >something > >like it) we could find the most recent SQL that affected this > block/row? > > > >Chaim > > > > > > > >Gary, > > > >I wish it did. I worked with Q Diagnostics for quite a while, and > worked > >directly with the developer (although calling John Beresniewicz a > developer > >is an understatement, he's brilliant!) on answering that problem. > > > >Neither Q nor anything from Platinum (does that tell you how long ago > it > >was?) was able to find the locking sql with any precision. The answer > I got > >back from both of them was "if you figure out how to do it, PLEASE > let us > >know" > > > >Having said that, Q Diagnostics was indeed bliss... I fixed locks > before > >users complained, was able to model and monitor bad SQL and fix it > and had > >lots of good info directly on the desktop. > > > >Rachel > > > > > > >From: "Gary Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: Evaluation questions > > >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:11:36 -0800 > > > > > >Rachel, > > > > > >I believe your second wish from below (locking SQL) has been > granted by > > >former Savant product called Q Diagnostic Center, currently owned > by > > >Precise. Drill down to locks, including user and SQL info - its a > bliss. > > > > > >Gary Weber > > >Senior DBA > > >Charles Jones, LLC > > >609-530-1144, ext 5529 > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >Carmichael > > >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:56 AM > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > >one I want is "can the package tell me when a datafile extends" &g
RE: Evaluation questions - Precise Tool
Which Components of this Tool (Precise) are advisable ? How does it Compare with Other Tools ? Any Highlights ? Lastly Paying for a Tool , is it indeed Advisable OR are there any Freeware Tools which may be Good enough ? > -Original Message- > From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Evaluation questions > > > > Chaim, > > That could work. Logminer wasn't around when I first had this problem, > and I > haven't spent time working with it. > > From what I know from listening to Joe present on it though, it would > be a > more complicated process than I want. I'd have to be sure that the > dictionary map was always up to date, and I would have to go back and > look > through all the archived logs as well as the online ones, in case the > statement had been archived off. It also sounds like it would be > intensely > manual. > > Joe -- any thoughts on this? > > > I want something that runs FAST, so I can clear locks quickly. And > then go > on to the fun stuff of killing duhvelopers. > > Rachel (today it is hot and humid here, and today the AC in the office > > doesn't work killing duhvelopers is looking like more and more > fun) > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: Evaluation questions > >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:51:19 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Rachel Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/31/2001 11:48:02 AM > > > >Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >cc:(bcc: Chaim Katz/Completions/Bombardier) > > > > > > > > > >Rachel, > > > >I don't know how to retreive the locking sql either, but reading this > > >discussion > >it occurred to me that 1) in v$session (of the blocked session) we > have > >the > >file#,block#,row# that is being waited on. Maybe with logminer (or > >something > >like it) we could find the most recent SQL that affected this > block/row? > > > >Chaim > > > > > > > >Gary, > > > >I wish it did. I worked with Q Diagnostics for quite a while, and > worked > >directly with the developer (although calling John Beresniewicz a > developer > >is an understatement, he's brilliant!) on answering that problem. > > > >Neither Q nor anything from Platinum (does that tell you how long ago > it > >was?) was able to find the locking sql with any precision. The answer > I got > >back from both of them was "if you figure out how to do it, PLEASE > let us > >know" > > > >Having said that, Q Diagnostics was indeed bliss... I fixed locks > before > >users complained, was able to model and monitor bad SQL and fix it > and had > >lots of good info directly on the desktop. > > > >Rachel > > > > > > >From: "Gary Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: Evaluation questions > > >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:11:36 -0800 > > > > > >Rachel, > > > > > >I believe your second wish from below (locking SQL) has been > granted by > > >former Savant product called Q Diagnostic Center, currently owned > by > > >Precise. Drill down to locks, including user and SQL info - its a > bliss. > > > > > >Gary Weber > > >Senior DBA > > >Charles Jones, LLC > > >609-530-1144, ext 5529 > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >Carmichael > > >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:56 AM > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > >one I want is "can the package tell me when a datafile extends" > > > > > >also, I want (and have NEVER found) a package that can tell me the > >locking > > >SQL, when the locker has gone on and done other SQL after the lock. > > > > > >ex. > > > > > >user1 does: > > > select * from table for update where > > > update table > > > insert into second table > > >and does not commit > > > > > >user2 comes in and tries to update the fi
RE: Precise Insight/SQL/Pulse
All I would add is that the last time I looked at Savant, I thought it was a good product. It let you compare your current state with yesterday, last week, last month, ... This was an easy way to measure changes. Unfortunately this product was skewed heavily to using hit ratios and not wait events. Henry -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:21 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here is my assesment. Pulse is very weak in terms of dba monitoring. They rebound this with the ability to add up to 20 custom packages. I think I/Watch is a MUCH better product for this. With them (Precise) buying Savant I suspect Q Diagnostics (Great package minus notification) and Pulse with be joined into a single more marketable product. Precise SQL is a great product and more mature than SQL Lab Vision Expert. But with the new version of Expert (As of Oct 2000) it does what Precise SQL does. Both are great products, I tend to like SQL Lab better as it has the tuning expert included, which Precise SQL has really weak one. I also like the grouping and quering better on SQL statements in SQL Lab vision. Precise SQL does have a better repository for old statements to do trend analysis on. Both products are great, and both companies have a strong ear from Oracle directly in terms of support or and backing. In short, I think SQL Lab Vision is a more fuller product. I have never played with Precise Insight or SQL Impact. I heard these are good products, but I have nothing to offer on them. "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen." Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:47 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We are thinking of possibly purchasing the Precise Insight, SQL and Pulse products. Has anyone had any very good or very bad experiences with these products? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Connie Milliken INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Henry Poras INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Precise Insight/SQL/Pulse
Here is my assesment. Pulse is very weak in terms of dba monitoring. They rebound this with the ability to add up to 20 custom packages. I think I/Watch is a MUCH better product for this. With them (Precise) buying Savant I suspect Q Diagnostics (Great package minus notification) and Pulse with be joined into a single more marketable product. Precise SQL is a great product and more mature than SQL Lab Vision Expert. But with the new version of Expert (As of Oct 2000) it does what Precise SQL does. Both are great products, I tend to like SQL Lab better as it has the tuning expert included, which Precise SQL has really weak one. I also like the grouping and quering better on SQL statements in SQL Lab vision. Precise SQL does have a better repository for old statements to do trend analysis on. Both products are great, and both companies have a strong ear from Oracle directly in terms of support or and backing. In short, I think SQL Lab Vision is a more fuller product. I have never played with Precise Insight or SQL Impact. I heard these are good products, but I have nothing to offer on them. "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen." Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:47 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We are thinking of possibly purchasing the Precise Insight, SQL and Pulse products. Has anyone had any very good or very bad experiences with these products? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Connie Milliken INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Precise Insight/SQL/Pulse
We are thinking of possibly purchasing the Precise Insight, SQL and Pulse products. Has anyone had any very good or very bad experiences with these products? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Connie Milliken INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re:RE: RE: Precise Sql info
Yeah, damagement (damage management). Reply Separator Author: "Joan Hsieh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2/8/2001 12:13 PM No problem. damagement??? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:52 AM To: Joan Hsieh; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Joan, Can I quote you on that to my damagement?? Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Joan Hsieh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2/6/2001 1:38 PM Hi Mike, I uses precise sql and I like it very much. Especially good for peoplesoft kind of application. I used sql lab, sql expert, too. But I give precise sql the highest score. It is expensive but worth every penny. That's what I think. Thanks, Joan -Original Message- Lanteigne Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Thanks for all who responded to my dba/PeopleSoft query. Your insights were very helpful. Now I'm looking for any thoughts on Precise SQL and the Precise Enterprise product line. From their web page, it seems like a job unto itself to run! Any thought or experiences welcome. Thanks again Mike -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Lanteigne INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: Precise Sql info
No problem. damagement??? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:52 AM To: Joan Hsieh; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Joan, Can I quote you on that to my damagement?? Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Joan Hsieh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2/6/2001 1:38 PM Hi Mike, I uses precise sql and I like it very much. Especially good for peoplesoft kind of application. I used sql lab, sql expert, too. But I give precise sql the highest score. It is expensive but worth every penny. That's what I think. Thanks, Joan -Original Message- Lanteigne Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Thanks for all who responded to my dba/PeopleSoft query. Your insights were very helpful. Now I'm looking for any thoughts on Precise SQL and the Precise Enterprise product line. From their web page, it seems like a job unto itself to run! Any thought or experiences welcome. Thanks again Mike -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Lanteigne INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re:RE: Precise Sql info
Joan, Can I quote you on that to my damagement?? Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Joan Hsieh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2/6/2001 1:38 PM Hi Mike, I uses precise sql and I like it very much. Especially good for peoplesoft kind of application. I used sql lab, sql expert, too. But I give precise sql the highest score. It is expensive but worth every penny. That's what I think. Thanks, Joan -Original Message- Lanteigne Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Thanks for all who responded to my dba/PeopleSoft query. Your insights were very helpful. Now I'm looking for any thoughts on Precise SQL and the Precise Enterprise product line. From their web page, it seems like a job unto itself to run! Any thought or experiences welcome. Thanks again Mike -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Lanteigne INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Precise Sql info
Hi Mike, I uses precise sql and I like it very much. Especially good for peoplesoft kind of application. I used sql lab, sql expert, too. But I give precise sql the highest score. It is expensive but worth every penny. That's what I think. Thanks, Joan -Original Message- Lanteigne Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Thanks for all who responded to my dba/PeopleSoft query. Your insights were very helpful. Now I'm looking for any thoughts on Precise SQL and the Precise Enterprise product line. From their web page, it seems like a job unto itself to run! Any thought or experiences welcome. Thanks again Mike -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Lanteigne INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Precise Sql info
Hi all, Thanks for all who responded to my dba/PeopleSoft query. Your insights were very helpful. Now I'm looking for any thoughts on Precise SQL and the Precise Enterprise product line. From their web page, it seems like a job unto itself to run! Any thought or experiences welcome. Thanks again Mike -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Lanteigne INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
