RE: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Tell you one thing, if I wasn't here I would be there. Last job was in NS. Came out here on a 4 month TDY a year and a half ago. Although I make more then $65000 I would have probably stayed there for that if a good enough job as around at the time. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 5:06 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On July 6, 2001 05:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > OH, I've stayed out of this one, but I think a word or two should > be acceptable. > > $75K with minimal relocation may be cheap upfront, but if your > current salary is $0.00 then this is better, even if the relocation > $$$ are not what one would expect. Besides, I started here at $36K > some 9 years ago & pretty darn soon their going to crack the $100K > barrier. So look to the future, even if one must live in the > present (when one is at the bottom of the barrel, all roads point > up). Or come to Nova Scotia - DBA w/ ~5 years experience can expect around 65K. Supposedly due to lower cost of living, however, I believe it simply has more to do with less demand (there are few employers here large enough to warrant a full-time experienced dba - most shops are small development shops that have one disk to hold Oracle and it's usually running NT). Oh well, got saltwater in my veins, so I'll stick around here for a while :) Cheers, GC -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gregory Conron INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
On July 6, 2001 10:15 pm, Stephane Faroult wrote: > Gregory Conron wrote: > > On July 6, 2001 05:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just as a matter of information, there are many people on this list > from South or South East Asia, as well as Eastern and Central > Europe, and possibly from Southern America and Africa as well, who, > I am certain, are going to shed a tear over the miserable salaries > of some American and Canadian DBAs, Way to ruin a good bitchfest, Stephane. :) Cheers, GC -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gregory Conron INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Gregory Conron wrote: > > On July 6, 2001 05:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > OH, I've stayed out of this one, but I think a word or two should > > be acceptable. > > > > $75K with minimal relocation may be cheap upfront, but if your > > current salary is $0.00 then this is better, even if the relocation > > $$$ are not what one would expect. Besides, I started here at $36K > > some 9 years ago & pretty darn soon their going to crack the $100K > > barrier. So look to the future, even if one must live in the > > present (when one is at the bottom of the barrel, all roads point > > up). > > Or come to Nova Scotia - DBA w/ ~5 years experience can expect > around 65K. Supposedly due to lower cost of living, however, I > believe it simply has more to do with less demand (there are few > employers here large enough to warrant a full-time experienced dba - > most shops are small development shops that have one disk to hold > Oracle and it's usually running NT). Oh well, got saltwater in my > veins, so I'll stick around here for a while :) > > Cheers, > GC Just as a matter of information, there are many people on this list from South or South East Asia, as well as Eastern and Central Europe, and possibly from Southern America and Africa as well, who, I am certain, are going to shed a tear over the miserable salaries of some American and Canadian DBAs, who are not technically better than they are even if they can afford the luxury of not pirating papers and books. And concerning the cost of living, well, I am not sure. Have a look at this week's issue of 'The Economist', p 108, a table gives New York at 100, Tokyo at 140, Hong Kong around 118, Libreville (any DBA from Libreville here?) around 105, Oslo (104), London and Zurich above New York, and Singapore, Beijing, Paris, and Seoul in this order close behind. If you consider than even in opulent Singapore DBA salaries are not, even in the local currency (1.82 to the USD), at the levels that you mention (which doesn't prevent them from losing development jobs to India, where costs - understand salaries - are three times lower), that in Hungary, which gave John von Neumann to computing, the average salary (don't know about DBAs) is around $200 a month (granted, cost of living in Budapest is half what it is in New-York), I hardly dare mention countries like VietNam, where a GP makes $100 per month, about twice the average. I find it legitimate to exchange some info on salaries, and even some whining. But I find a bit of indecency in seeing such a somewhat off-topic thread roll on for too long. Sorry, folks, I thought I had to fume for people who would possibly not dare to do it. My 2 rupiahs, Stephane Faroult Oriole Corporation Voice: +44 (0) 7050-696-269 Fax:+44 (0) 7050-696-449 Performance Tools & Free Scripts -- http://www.oriole.com, designed by Oracle DBAs for Oracle DBAs -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Plus, some companies actually do that whole bonus thing. Salary wise I do pretty good here but you add bonuses and perks on and I do very well. Yes, I am reliant on management to do the right thing but that is one area where my management has not slacked on yet. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L OH, I've stayed out of this one, but I think a word or two should be acceptable. $75K with minimal relocation may be cheap upfront, but if your current salary is $0.00 then this is better, even if the relocation $$$ are not what one would expect. Besides, I started here at $36K some 9 years ago & pretty darn soon their going to crack the $100K barrier. So look to the future, even if one must live in the present (when one is at the bottom of the barrel, all roads point up). Besides I understand Arizona is a low cost of living state. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Koivu; Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 7/6/2001 12:09 PM Here we go again! OCP means You Read The Book and Passed 5 Tests, Congratulations, Thank You for Your Money! Experience is what counts. $75,000 is middle ground. Again, I say! Middle ground salary with menial relocation package? CHEEAP! > -Original Message- > From: ef 8454 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:42 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. > > $75,000 is pretty good. Our company (in Washington, DC) just hire a > ORACLE > DBA. He claimed he have OCP > certificate and ONLY asked $60,000. > > > >From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. > >Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:35:30 -0800 > > > >Lisa, imitating a bird... > > > >"Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap " > > > > > >next will be "I taught I taw a puddy-tat" > > > > > > > >Tom Mercadante > >Oracle Certified Professional > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:57 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > >Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap > >$75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo? > >Are they kidding?? > > > >I hope this isn't our parent company > > > >Happy Friday everyone! > >Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja > > > > -Original Message- > >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > >orastaff wrote: > > > > >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is > >interested > > >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working > > >with > > >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > > > Is this some super secret job or what??? > > > > -Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this > >position in > >Phoenix, AZ > >with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. > >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested > >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working > with > >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third > >parties > >please. > > > > Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. > >and/or need > >sponsorship. > > > > * Requirements: > >- A degree in C.S. or equivalent > >- 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed > >- Strong Unix > >- Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages > > are desirable > >- Must have good communication skills > > -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required > > > > > > This position is with a company that offers : > > * Quality Work Environment > > * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits > > * Financial Stability > > * Some Relocation Assistance > > > >NO sub contracting positions available. > >PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. > > > > For immedi
Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
My turn. As someone with a current salary of $0.00, if I were to take a job with a 75k base, it would take _years_ to work my way back up to my most recent salary. (We're talking NY, so cost of living and salaries are higher than in many other places.) Although, as you write, Dick, I'm looking to the future with my seat firmly in the present. In the future I see a clear possibility of hungry children who need diapers, ambling about in tattered clothing. (Violins, anyone?) At which time, 75k may seem like alot. (Ok - it's really not that bad - only one of the kids needs diapers, the clothing shouldn't tatter for at least two or three months, and the kids are ALWAYS hungry anyway.) The question is a good one, 75k now or wait a few months, lose thousands and thousands of dollars, but get a salary commensurate with where I've been. A six month consulting gig would work awfully well now. Yosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OH, I've stayed out of this one, but I think a word or two should be acceptable. > > $75K with minimal relocation may be cheap upfront, but if your current salary is > $0.00 then this is better, even if the relocation $$$ are not what one would > expect. Besides, I started here at $36K some 9 years ago & pretty darn soon > their going to crack the $100K barrier. So look to the future, even if one must > live in the present (when one is at the bottom of the barrel, all roads point > up). > > Besides I understand Arizona is a low cost of living state. > > Dick Goulet > > Reply Separator > Author: "Koivu; Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 7/6/2001 12:09 PM > > Here we go again! OCP means You Read The Book and Passed 5 Tests, > Congratulations, Thank You for Your Money! > Experience is what counts. > > $75,000 is middle ground. Again, I say! Middle ground salary with menial > relocation package? CHEEAP! > > > -Original Message- > > From: ef 8454 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:42 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. > > > > $75,000 is pretty good. Our company (in Washington, DC) just hire a > > ORACLE > > DBA. He claimed he have OCP > > certificate and ONLY asked $60,000. > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yosi Greenfield INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
My company may be cheap, but it have more than 6000 employs. The DBA salary is NOT like what you though that high in D.C. I list all of our DBA salary for you to reference: DB2 DBA (Mainframe) -- 72K Informix DBA (UNIX) -- 72K SQL Server (NT) -- 52K ORACLE DBA (UNIX) -- 74K (7 years exp.) ORACLE DBA (UNIX) -- 60K (OCP certify) They all less than $75K and live in D.C. high living cost area. >From: "Gene Sais" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. >Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 11:42:02 -0800 > >Your company is either cheap or your new dba has no clue. DC is one of the highest paying locales in the USA. Now if you said 75k was not bad in Florida, I would agree (companies in florida are cheap), unless you were a contractor of course. > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/06/01 02:41PM >>> >$75,000 is pretty good. Our company (in Washington, DC) just hire a ORACLE >DBA. He claimed he have OCP >certificate and ONLY asked $60,000. > > > >From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. > >Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:35:30 -0800 > > > >Lisa, imitating a bird... > > > >"Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap " > > > > > >next will be "I taught I taw a puddy-tat" > > > > > > > >Tom Mercadante > >Oracle Certified Professional > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:57 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > >Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap > >$75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo? > >Are they kidding?? > > > >I hope this isn't our parent company > > > >Happy Friday everyone! > >Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja > > > > -Original Message- > >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > >orastaff wrote: > > > > >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is > >interested > > >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working > > >with > > >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > > > Is this some super secret job or what??? > > > > -Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this > >position in > >Phoenix, AZ > >with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. > >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested > >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with > >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third > >parties > >please. > > > > Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. > >and/or need > >sponsorship. > > > > * Requirements: > >- A degree in C.S. or equivalent > >- 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed > >- Strong Unix > >- Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages > > are desirable > >- Must have good communication skills > > -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required > > > > > > This position is with a company that offers : > > * Quality Work Environment > > * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits > > * Financial Stability > > * Some Relocation Assistance > > > >NO sub contracting positions available. > >PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. > > > > For immediate consideration, please send your resume to: > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Phone: 1-800-549-8502. > >* Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/Carlos > > > > We pay referral fees. > >So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be > >qualified/interested > > > >in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills. > >Thanks, > >Bill Law > >OraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity" > > > > > > > > -- > >Please see th
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Yea, but you live in a town run by a sheriff (Joe Arpaio) who is, I think, the only American Law Officer to be on the Amnesty International "Abuser/Violator" List. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 4:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L OH, I've stayed out of this one, but I think a word or two should be acceptable. $75K with minimal relocation may be cheap upfront, but if your current salary is $0.00 then this is better, even if the relocation $$$ are not what one would expect. Besides, I started here at $36K some 9 years ago & pretty darn soon their going to crack the $100K barrier. So look to the future, even if one must live in the present (when one is at the bottom of the barrel, all roads point up). Besides I understand Arizona is a low cost of living state. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Koivu; Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 7/6/2001 12:09 PM Here we go again! OCP means You Read The Book and Passed 5 Tests, Congratulations, Thank You for Your Money! Experience is what counts. $75,000 is middle ground. Again, I say! Middle ground salary with menial relocation package? CHEEAP! > -Original Message- > From: ef 8454 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:42 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. > > $75,000 is pretty good. Our company (in Washington, DC) just hire a > ORACLE > DBA. He claimed he have OCP > certificate and ONLY asked $60,000. > > > >From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. > >Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:35:30 -0800 > > > >Lisa, imitating a bird... > > > >"Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap " > > > > > >next will be "I taught I taw a puddy-tat" > > > > > > > >Tom Mercadante > >Oracle Certified Professional > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:57 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > >Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap > >$75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo? > >Are they kidding?? > > > >I hope this isn't our parent company > > > >Happy Friday everyone! > >Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja > > > > -Original Message- > >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > >orastaff wrote: > > > > >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is > >interested > > >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working > > >with > > >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > > > Is this some super secret job or what??? > > > > -Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this > >position in > >Phoenix, AZ > >with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. > >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested > >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working > with > >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third > >parties > >please. > > > > Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. > >and/or need > >sponsorship. > > > > * Requirements: > >- A degree in C.S. or equivalent > >- 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed > >- Strong Unix > >- Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages > > are desirable > >- Must have good communication skills > > -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required > > > > > > This position is with a company that offers : > > * Quality Work Environment > > * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits > > * Financial Stability > > * Some Relocation Assistance > > > >NO sub contracting positions available. > >PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. > > > > For immediate consideration, please send your resume to: > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTE
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Title: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. Here we go again! OCP means You Read The Book and Passed 5 Tests, Congratulations, Thank You for Your Money! Experience is what counts. $75,000 is middle ground. Again, I say! Middle ground salary with menial relocation package? CHEEAP! -Original Message- From: ef 8454 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:42 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. $75,000 is pretty good. Our company (in Washington, DC) just hire a ORACLE DBA. He claimed he have OCP certificate and ONLY asked $60,000. >From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. >Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:35:30 -0800 > >Lisa, imitating a bird... > >"Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap " > > >next will be "I taught I taw a puddy-tat" > > > >Tom Mercadante >Oracle Certified Professional > >-Original Message- >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:57 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap >$75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo? >Are they kidding?? > >I hope this isn't our parent company > >Happy Friday everyone! >Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja > > -Original Message- >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >orastaff wrote: > > >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is >interested > >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working > >with > >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > Is this some super secret job or what??? > > -Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this >position in >Phoenix, AZ >with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third >parties >please. > > Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. >and/or need >sponsorship. > > * Requirements: >- A degree in C.S. or equivalent >- 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed >- Strong Unix >- Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages > are desirable >- Must have good communication skills > -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required > > > This position is with a company that offers : > * Quality Work Environment > * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits > * Financial Stability > * Some Relocation Assistance > >NO sub contracting positions available. >PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. > > For immediate consideration, please send your resume to: > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Phone: 1-800-549-8502. >* Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/Carlos > > We pay referral fees. >So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be >qualified/interested > >in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills. >Thanks, >Bill Law >OraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity" > > > > -- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ><http://www.orafaq.com> >-- >Author: OraStaff > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ><http://www.orafaq.com> >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (8
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$60K and OCP. Hmm Can you say 'no experience'? Jared "ef 8454" l.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] om 07/06/01 11:41 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L $75,000 is pretty good. Our company (in Washington, DC) just hire a ORACLE DBA. He claimed he have OCP certificate and ONLY asked $60,000. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Your company is either cheap or your new dba has no clue. DC is one of the highest paying locales in the USA. Now if you said 75k was not bad in Florida, I would agree (companies in florida are cheap), unless you were a contractor of course. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/06/01 02:41PM >>> $75,000 is pretty good. Our company (in Washington, DC) just hire a ORACLE DBA. He claimed he have OCP certificate and ONLY asked $60,000. >From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. >Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:35:30 -0800 > >Lisa, imitating a bird... > >"Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap " > > >next will be "I taught I taw a puddy-tat" > > > >Tom Mercadante >Oracle Certified Professional > >-Original Message- >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:57 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap >$75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo? >Are they kidding?? > >I hope this isn't our parent company > >Happy Friday everyone! >Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja > > -Original Message- >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >orastaff wrote: > > >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is >interested > >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working > >with > >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > Is this some super secret job or what??? > > -Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this >position in >Phoenix, AZ >with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third >parties >please. > > Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. >and/or need >sponsorship. > > * Requirements: >- A degree in C.S. or equivalent >- 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed >- Strong Unix >- Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages > are desirable >- Must have good communication skills > -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required > > > This position is with a company that offers : > * Quality Work Environment > * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits > * Financial Stability > * Some Relocation Assistance > >NO sub contracting positions available. >PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. > > For immediate consideration, please send your resume to: > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Phone: 1-800-549-8502. >* Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/Carlos > > We pay referral fees. >So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be >qualified/interested > >in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills. >Thanks, >Bill Law >OraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity" > > > > -- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ><http://www.orafaq.com> >-- >Author: OraStaff > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ><http://www.orafaq.com> >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Sounds like the kind of thing I would do.
Then, months later, you realize that you are the lowest paid person in the
department or on the site...
Sigh
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
-Original Message-
From: ef 8454 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:42 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
$75,000 is pretty good. Our company (in Washington, DC) just hire a
ORACLE
DBA. He claimed he have OCP
certificate and ONLY asked $60,000.
>From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
>Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:35:30 -0800
>
>Lisa, imitating a bird...
>
>"Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap "
>
>
>next will be "I taught I taw a puddy-tat"
>
>
>
>Tom Mercadante
>Oracle Certified Professional
>
>-Original Message-
>Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:57 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap
>$75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo?
>Are they kidding??
>
>I hope this isn't our parent company
>
>Happy Friday everyone!
>Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja
>
> -Original Message-
>Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> >orastaff wrote:
>
> >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is
>interested
> >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not
working
> >with
> >other recruiters for Phoenix companies.
>
> Is this some super secret job or what???
>
> -Original Message-
>Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider
this
>position in
>Phoenix, AZ
>with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T.
staff.
>We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is
interested
>in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not
working with
>other recruiters for Phoenix companies.
>
> This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or
third
>parties
>please.
>
> Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the
U.S.
>and/or need
>sponsorship.
>
> * Requirements:
>- A degree in C.S. or equivalent
>- 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed
>- Strong Unix
>- Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl
languages
> are desirable
>- Must have good communication skills
> -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required
>
>
> This position is with a company that offers :
> * Quality Work Environment
> * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits
> * Financial Stability
> * Some Relocation Assistance
>
>NO sub contracting positions available.
>PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States.
>
> For immediate consideration, please send your resume to:
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Phone: 1-800-549-8502.
>* Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/Carlos
>
> We pay referral fees.
>So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
>qualified/interested
>
>in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your
skills.
>Thanks,
>Bill Law
>OraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity"
>
>
>
> --
>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
><http://www.orafaq.com>
>--
>Author: OraStaff
> INET: [EMAIL PROTECT
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
$75,000 is pretty good. Our company (in Washington, DC) just hire a ORACLE DBA. He claimed he have OCP certificate and ONLY asked $60,000. >From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. >Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:35:30 -0800 > >Lisa, imitating a bird... > >"Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap " > > >next will be "I taught I taw a puddy-tat" > > > >Tom Mercadante >Oracle Certified Professional > >-Original Message- >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:57 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap >$75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo? >Are they kidding?? > >I hope this isn't our parent company > >Happy Friday everyone! >Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja > > -Original Message- >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >orastaff wrote: > > >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is >interested > >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working > >with > >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > Is this some super secret job or what??? > > -Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this >position in >Phoenix, AZ >with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third >parties >please. > > Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. >and/or need >sponsorship. > > * Requirements: >- A degree in C.S. or equivalent >- 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed >- Strong Unix >- Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages > are desirable >- Must have good communication skills > -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required > > > This position is with a company that offers : > * Quality Work Environment > * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits > * Financial Stability > * Some Relocation Assistance > >NO sub contracting positions available. >PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. > > For immediate consideration, please send your resume to: > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Phone: 1-800-549-8502. >* Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/Carlos > > We pay referral fees. >So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be >qualified/interested > >in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills. >Thanks, >Bill Law >OraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity" > > > > -- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ><http://www.orafaq.com> >-- >Author: OraStaff > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ><http://www.orafaq.com> >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >
Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
"Mercadante, Thomas F" wrote: > > Lisa, imitating a bird... > > "Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap " > > > next will be "I taught I taw a puddy-tat" "i DID, i did see a puddy-tat!";-) -- Bill "Shrek" Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ one ping to rule them all, one ping to find them, one ping to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
With our current economic conditions it's a buyer's market. > > Peter, > > It probably means that they're willing to relocate someone > but don't want to pay a ton of money to relocate someone > who owns a house. There can be more than $10,000 worth > of closing costs, moving costs, guarantee to buy your house > if it doesn't sell, etc. > > Renters are simpler and cheaper to relocate. > > Chere > > > > > Peter > > ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > com> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in > Phoenix.. > root@fatcity. > > com > > > > > > 07/05/01 > > 05:17 PM > > Please > > respond to > > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/05/2001 3:41:08 PM, Jonathan Gennick is quoted as saying: > > > . . . .|Thursday, July 05, 2001, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote: > . . . .|O> We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is > interested > . . . .|O> in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not > working with > . . . .|O> other recruiters for Phoenix companies. > . . . .| > . . . .|Now why in the world would any of this matter? >They are trying to get more people into Phoenix, and they > have invested in apartment buildings. > > But seriously that is kinda weird. > > . . . .| > www.nul.cjb.net > www.FreeBSD.org > > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Peter > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
May they bought you already, keep the HP example in mind... "Koivu, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@fatcity.com on 06.07.2001 15:56:40 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap $75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo? Are they kidding?? I hope this isn't our parent company Happy Friday everyone! Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja -Original Message- From: Farnsworth, Dave [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. >orastaff wrote: >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working >with >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. Is this some super secret job or what??? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this position in Phoenix, AZ with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with other recruiters for Phoenix companies. This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties please. Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or need sponsorship. * Requirements: - A degree in C.S. or equivalent - 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed - Strong Unix - Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages are desirable - Must have good communication skills -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required This position is with a company that offers : * Quality Work Environment * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits * Financial Stability * Some Relocation Assistance NO sub contracting positions available. PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. For immediate consideration, please send your resume to: Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 1-800-549-8502. * Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/Carlos We pay referral fees. So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interested in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills. Thanks, Bill Law OraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity" -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: OraStaff INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Title: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. Lisa, imitating a bird... "Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap " next will be "I taught I taw a puddy-tat" Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:57 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap $75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo? Are they kidding?? I hope this isn't our parent company Happy Friday everyone! Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja -Original Message- From: Farnsworth, Dave [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. >orastaff wrote: >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working >with >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. Is this some super secret job or what??? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this position in Phoenix, AZ with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with other recruiters for Phoenix companies. This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties please. Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or need sponsorship. * Requirements: - A degree in C.S. or equivalent - 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed - Strong Unix - Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages are desirable - Must have good communication skills -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required This position is with a company that offers : * Quality Work Environment * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits * Financial Stability * Some Relocation Assistance NO sub contracting positions available. PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. For immediate consideration, please send your resume to: Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 1-800-549-8502. * Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/Carlos We pay referral fees. So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interested in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills. Thanks, Bill Law OraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity" -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: OraStaff INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Peter, It probably means that they're willing to relocate someone but don't want to pay a ton of money to relocate someone who owns a house. There can be more than $10,000 worth of closing costs, moving costs, guarantee to buy your house if it doesn't sell, etc. Renters are simpler and cheaper to relocate. Chere Peter com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. root@fatcity. com 07/05/01 05:17 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L On 07/05/2001 3:41:08 PM, Jonathan Gennick is quoted as saying: . . . .|Thursday, July 05, 2001, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote: . . . .|O> We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested . . . .|O> in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with . . . .|O> other recruiters for Phoenix companies. . . . .| . . . .|Now why in the world would any of this matter? They are trying to get more people into Phoenix, and they have invested in apartment buildings. But seriously that is kinda weird. . . . .| www.nul.cjb.net www.FreeBSD.org _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Peter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Preferably with no close friends or relatives, nobody to notice if you just...disappear. Jim>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/06/01 09:10AM orastaff wrote:>We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested>in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working>with>other recruiters for Phoenix companies. Is this some super secret job or what???-Original Message-Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LIf you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this position inPhoenix, AZ with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff.We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interestedin Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working withother recruiters for Phoenix companies. This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third partiesplease.Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or need sponsorship.* Requirements:- A degree in C.S. or equivalent- 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed- Strong Unix- Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages are desirable- Must have good communication skills -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency requiredThis position is with a company that offers : * Quality Work Environment * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits * Financial Stability * Some Relocation Assistance NO sub contracting positions available.PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States.For immediate consideration, please send your resume to:Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone: 1-800-549-8502. * Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/CarlosWe pay referral fees.So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interestedin the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills.Thanks,Bill LawOraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity"-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: OraStaff INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).--Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com--Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Title: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. Cheap! Cheap Cheap Cheap $75,000? To move across the country with MINIMAL relo? Are they kidding?? I hope this isn't our parent company Happy Friday everyone! Lisa, the anti-recruiter ninja -Original Message- From: Farnsworth, Dave [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. >orastaff wrote: >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working >with >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. Is this some super secret job or what??? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this position in Phoenix, AZ with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with other recruiters for Phoenix companies. This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties please. Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or need sponsorship. * Requirements: - A degree in C.S. or equivalent - 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed - Strong Unix - Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages are desirable - Must have good communication skills -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required This position is with a company that offers : * Quality Work Environment * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits * Financial Stability * Some Relocation Assistance NO sub contracting positions available. PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. For immediate consideration, please send your resume to: Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 1-800-549-8502. * Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/Carlos We pay referral fees. So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interested in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills. Thanks, Bill Law OraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity" -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: OraStaff INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Maybe it's Palo Verde Nuclear Power Station. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is the NSA maybe located there?? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also be legally privileged and/or price sensitive. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We accept no liability for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: April Wells INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Is the NSA maybe located there?? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
>orastaff wrote: >We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested >in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working >with >other recruiters for Phoenix companies. Is this some super secret job or what??? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If you're interested in a great opportunity, then consider this position in Phoenix, AZ with a leading company that needs an Oracle DBA to join its' I.T. staff. We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with other recruiters for Phoenix companies. This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties please. Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or need sponsorship. * Requirements: - A degree in C.S. or equivalent - 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience is needed - Strong Unix - Application development experience; Unix scripting; C or Perl languages are desirable - Must have good communication skills -U.S. citizenship or permanent residency required This position is with a company that offers : * Quality Work Environment * Base salary up to 75K-firm +excellent benefits * Financial Stability * Some Relocation Assistance NO sub contracting positions available. PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the United States. For immediate consideration, please send your resume to: Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 1-800-549-8502. * Please use job code: One/Phoenix/DBA/Carlos We pay referral fees. So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be qualified/interested in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills. Thanks, Bill Law OraStaff, Inc-"The Proven Connection To Oracle Opportunity" -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: OraStaff INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Title: RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. Jonathan, I think if we retranslate it, we can ascertain what Bill was talking about. >>We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested in Phoenix... We aren't telling you that this company doesn't really want you long term. They have some simple problems, most of which they will have you solve as a 'test' in the interview. They have a 6 month wait on their benefits so when 5.9 months go by, they'll fire your butt and get a new DBA. If you're renting, all we may be liable for is maybe a months rent. Don't plan on that house just yet. We can't afford that. >>but has not applied to Phoenix companies When you see the hard labor camp you'll be working in, you'll probably take the first offer from another company that you get. So rather than waste money interviewing someone that will not take the job, we'll just count on your ignorance. >>is not working with other recruiters for Phoenix companies. The last 23 candidates had their resumes all over the place and because of that, we haven't been able to collect a finders fee, since all the client had to do was say, "we already have this resume.". If we are the only ones that you work with, you are a gauranteed payday for us. Besides, if you actually went to another recruiter, they may not charge as much and hence may be able to get you more money... --Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Wags the Dog, he likes to tango. Wags the Dog, he calls it rango..." -Original Message- From: Jonathan Gennick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix.. Thursday, July 05, 2001, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote: O> We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested O> in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with O> other recruiters for Phoenix companies. Now why in the world would any of this matter? Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
On 07/05/2001 3:41:08 PM, Jonathan Gennick is quoted as saying: . . . .|Thursday, July 05, 2001, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote: . . . .|O> We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested . . . .|O> in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with . . . .|O> other recruiters for Phoenix companies. . . . .| . . . .|Now why in the world would any of this matter? They are trying to get more people into Phoenix, and they have invested in apartment buildings. But seriously that is kinda weird. . . . .| www.nul.cjb.net www.FreeBSD.org _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Peter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
I was this close to working at seven-11, you know? *mandatory "Fast Times" quote* -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thursday, July 05, 2001, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote: O> We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested O> in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with O> other recruiters for Phoenix companies. Now why in the world would any of this matter? Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jenkins, Michael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
On 07/05/2001 3:41:08 PM, Jonathan Gennick is quoted as saying: . . . .|Thursday, July 05, 2001, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote: . . . .|O> We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested . . . .|O> in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with . . . .|O> other recruiters for Phoenix companies. . . . .| . . . .|Now why in the world would any of this matter? They are trying to get more people into Phoenix, and they have invested in apartment buildings. But seriously that is kinda weird. . . . .| www.nul.cjb.net www.FreeBSD.org _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Peter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Ditto. This 'renter' thing sounds like some sort of thinly veiled discrimination. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thursday, July 05, 2001, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote: O> We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested O> in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with O> other recruiters for Phoenix companies. Now why in the world would any of this matter? Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: * Oracle DBA Needed in Phoenix..
Thursday, July 05, 2001, 4:15:20 PM, you wrote: O> We would like to submit someone who is a renter and who is interested O> in Phoenix but has not applied to Phoenix companies and is not working with O> other recruiters for Phoenix companies. Now why in the world would any of this matter? Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
