RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
Thanks, Bambi!

--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Bellow, Bambi
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:45 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus
> 
> 
> Mladen --
> 
> If I find them in the boxes, I will zip up both 4 and 5 and 
> send them wherever.  I presume the license agreements will 
> allow that...
> 
> Bambi.
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:35 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Yes I do remember SQL*Calc. As my floppies are in Croatia and 
> as I am in the lovely stte of Connecticut which is very, very 
> far away from Croatia, can you please zip those 
> floppies and send them to the great leader of BAARF party (Mogens)? 
>   
> 
> --
> Mladen Gogala
> Oracle DBA 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Bellow, Bambi
> > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:55 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus
> > 
> > 
> > Why upgrade to 5.1?  I think I have my 5.0.20 disks *and
> > docset* somewhere... (I have 4s too, but since Mladen is 
> > taking care of that, I don't have to rummage around)  Hey, 
> > remember SQL*Calc?
> > 
> > Bambi.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:10 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > Indeed. It's SO cool to run the version 5 thing again. Will 
> you be at
> > the UKOUG conference in Birmingham in December by any chance?
> > 
> > Robson, Peter wrote:
> > 
> > >Ah-a - NOW I see why you want my old version 5 manuals!!
> > >
> > >peter
> > >edinburgh
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:45 PM
> > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>Subject: Re: 10g: SQL Plus
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Well, we have a good, working 5.25 floppy drive installed on our 
> > >>Oracle Museum PC (486, 25 MHz) now, and we're planning on 
> installing
> > >>WordPerfect 4.2, Lotus 1-2-3 (with the plug-in for Oracle, 
> > which Cary
> > >>will bring over for the Database Forum next week), and other
> > >>goodies. We 
> > >>have 5.1 running, and it's very, very fast to start up. Oh, 
> > >>and exports 
> > >>from 5.1 are fine to import in 9i. We haven't tested 10g yet.
> > >>
> > >>We're showcasing this wonder - and the rest of the Oracle 
> Museum for 
> > >>which some of you have so generously helped - at the 10g
> > launch days
> > >>next week here in Denmark.
> > >>
> > >>Now, Mladen, would it be possible somehow to get hold of 
> eg a zip of 
> > >>those 4.1 floppies?
> > >>
> > >>We have of course ordered another 486 PC, and we intend 
> to give it 
> > >>all of 4 MB of RAM like the other one.
> > >>
> > >>The guy that sells all these things has a shop called 
> Dinotech, and 
> > >>he still has about 9 new 5.25 drives from way back then. He'll
> > sell for
> > >>about 100 kroner each.
> > >>
> > >>We paid 200 kroner for the IBM DOS 5 in its original wrap.
> > >>
> > >>Mogens
> > >>
> > >>Mladen Gogala wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Will they have UFI in 10g? I'm sort of nostalgic. I cannot
> > install my
> > >>>3 360k 5.25 floppies with oracle 4.1 on any PC. How 
> about oralink?
> > >>>Remarkably, it all used to run in 512k of RAM, which is less
> > >>>  
> > >>>
> > >>then the
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>L3 cache size on any decent P4 system. How many hundreds of
> > >>>  
> > >>>
> > >>megabytes
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>of RAM will I need for 10g? Don't tell me that RAM is cheap. EDO
> > >>>capable SDRAM for PCI/233 is NOT cheap.
> > >>>
> > >>>--
> > >>>Mladen Gogala
> > >>>Oracl

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Mladen --

If I find them in the boxes, I will zip up both 4 and 5 and send them
wherever.  I presume the license agreements will allow that...

Bambi.

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:35 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Yes I do remember SQL*Calc. As my floppies are in Croatia and as I am in the
lovely
stte of Connecticut which is very, very far away from Croatia, can you
please zip those 
floppies and send them to the great leader of BAARF party (Mogens)? 


--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Bellow, Bambi
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:55 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus
> 
> 
> Why upgrade to 5.1?  I think I have my 5.0.20 disks *and 
> docset* somewhere... (I have 4s too, but since Mladen is 
> taking care of that, I don't have to rummage around)  Hey, 
> remember SQL*Calc?
> 
> Bambi.
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:10 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Indeed. It's SO cool to run the version 5 thing again. Will you be at 
> the UKOUG conference in Birmingham in December by any chance?
> 
> Robson, Peter wrote:
> 
> >Ah-a - NOW I see why you want my old version 5 manuals!!
> >
> >peter
> >edinburgh
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:45 PM
> >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>Subject: Re: 10g: SQL Plus
> >>
> >>
> >>Well, we have a good, working 5.25 floppy drive installed on
> >>our Oracle 
> >>Museum PC (486, 25 MHz) now, and we're planning on installing 
> >>WordPerfect 4.2, Lotus 1-2-3 (with the plug-in for Oracle, 
> which Cary 
> >>will bring over for the Database Forum next week), and other 
> >>goodies. We 
> >>have 5.1 running, and it's very, very fast to start up. Oh, 
> >>and exports 
> >>from 5.1 are fine to import in 9i. We haven't tested 10g yet.
> >>
> >>We're showcasing this wonder - and the rest of the Oracle Museum for
> >>which some of you have so generously helped - at the 10g 
> launch days 
> >>next week here in Denmark.
> >>
> >>Now, Mladen, would it be possible somehow to get hold of eg a zip of
> >>those 4.1 floppies?
> >>
> >>We have of course ordered another 486 PC, and we intend to
> >>give it all 
> >>of 4 MB of RAM like the other one.
> >>
> >>The guy that sells all these things has a shop called
> >>Dinotech, and he 
> >>still has about 9 new 5.25 drives from way back then. He'll 
> sell for 
> >>about 100 kroner each.
> >>
> >>We paid 200 kroner for the IBM DOS 5 in its original wrap.
> >>
> >>Mogens
> >>
> >>Mladen Gogala wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Will they have UFI in 10g? I'm sort of nostalgic. I cannot 
> install my 
> >>>3 360k 5.25 floppies with oracle 4.1 on any PC. How about oralink? 
> >>>Remarkably, it all used to run in 512k of RAM, which is less
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>then the
> >>
> >>
> >>>L3 cache size on any decent P4 system. How many hundreds of
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>megabytes
> >>
> >>
> >>>of RAM will I need for 10g? Don't tell me that RAM is cheap. EDO 
> >>>capable SDRAM for PCI/233 is NOT cheap.
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Mladen Gogala
> >>>Oracle DBA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>>-Original Message-
> >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Bob Metelsky
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:45 AM
> >>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>>>Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  
> >>>>>
> >>>>it's so easy
&g

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
Yes I do remember SQL*Calc. As my floppies are in Croatia and as I am in the
lovely
stte of Connecticut which is very, very far away from Croatia, can you
please zip those 
floppies and send them to the great leader of BAARF party (Mogens)? 


--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Bellow, Bambi
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:55 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus
> 
> 
> Why upgrade to 5.1?  I think I have my 5.0.20 disks *and 
> docset* somewhere... (I have 4s too, but since Mladen is 
> taking care of that, I don't have to rummage around)  Hey, 
> remember SQL*Calc?
> 
> Bambi.
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:10 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Indeed. It's SO cool to run the version 5 thing again. Will you be at 
> the UKOUG conference in Birmingham in December by any chance?
> 
> Robson, Peter wrote:
> 
> >Ah-a - NOW I see why you want my old version 5 manuals!!
> >
> >peter
> >edinburgh
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:45 PM
> >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>Subject: Re: 10g: SQL Plus
> >>
> >>
> >>Well, we have a good, working 5.25 floppy drive installed on
> >>our Oracle 
> >>Museum PC (486, 25 MHz) now, and we're planning on installing 
> >>WordPerfect 4.2, Lotus 1-2-3 (with the plug-in for Oracle, 
> which Cary 
> >>will bring over for the Database Forum next week), and other 
> >>goodies. We 
> >>have 5.1 running, and it's very, very fast to start up. Oh, 
> >>and exports 
> >>from 5.1 are fine to import in 9i. We haven't tested 10g yet.
> >>
> >>We're showcasing this wonder - and the rest of the Oracle Museum for
> >>which some of you have so generously helped - at the 10g 
> launch days 
> >>next week here in Denmark.
> >>
> >>Now, Mladen, would it be possible somehow to get hold of eg a zip of
> >>those 4.1 floppies?
> >>
> >>We have of course ordered another 486 PC, and we intend to
> >>give it all 
> >>of 4 MB of RAM like the other one.
> >>
> >>The guy that sells all these things has a shop called
> >>Dinotech, and he 
> >>still has about 9 new 5.25 drives from way back then. He'll 
> sell for 
> >>about 100 kroner each.
> >>
> >>We paid 200 kroner for the IBM DOS 5 in its original wrap.
> >>
> >>Mogens
> >>
> >>Mladen Gogala wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Will they have UFI in 10g? I'm sort of nostalgic. I cannot 
> install my 
> >>>3 360k 5.25 floppies with oracle 4.1 on any PC. How about oralink? 
> >>>Remarkably, it all used to run in 512k of RAM, which is less
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>then the
> >>
> >>
> >>>L3 cache size on any decent P4 system. How many hundreds of
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>megabytes
> >>
> >>
> >>>of RAM will I need for 10g? Don't tell me that RAM is cheap. EDO 
> >>>capable SDRAM for PCI/233 is NOT cheap.
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Mladen Gogala
> >>>Oracle DBA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>>-Original Message-
> >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Bob Metelsky
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:45 AM
> >>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>>>Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  
> >>>>>
> >>>>it's so easy
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Why upgrade to 5.1?  I think I have my 5.0.20 disks *and docset*
somewhere... (I have 4s too, but since Mladen is taking care of that, I
don't have to rummage around)  Hey, remember SQL*Calc?

Bambi.

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:10 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Indeed. It's SO cool to run the version 5 thing again. Will you be at 
the UKOUG conference in Birmingham in December by any chance?

Robson, Peter wrote:

>Ah-a - NOW I see why you want my old version 5 manuals!!
>
>peter
>edinburgh
>
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:45 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>Subject: Re: 10g: SQL Plus
>>
>>
>>Well, we have a good, working 5.25 floppy drive installed on 
>>our Oracle 
>>Museum PC (486, 25 MHz) now, and we're planning on installing 
>>WordPerfect 4.2, Lotus 1-2-3 (with the plug-in for Oracle, which Cary 
>>will bring over for the Database Forum next week), and other 
>>goodies. We 
>>have 5.1 running, and it's very, very fast to start up. Oh, 
>>and exports 
>>from 5.1 are fine to import in 9i. We haven't tested 10g yet.
>>
>>We're showcasing this wonder - and the rest of the Oracle Museum for 
>>which some of you have so generously helped - at the 10g launch days 
>>next week here in Denmark.
>>
>>Now, Mladen, would it be possible somehow to get hold of eg a zip of 
>>those 4.1 floppies?
>>
>>We have of course ordered another 486 PC, and we intend to 
>>give it all 
>>of 4 MB of RAM like the other one.
>>
>>The guy that sells all these things has a shop called 
>>Dinotech, and he 
>>still has about 9 new 5.25 drives from way back then. He'll sell for 
>>about 100 kroner each.
>>
>>We paid 200 kroner for the IBM DOS 5 in its original wrap.
>>
>>Mogens
>>
>>Mladen Gogala wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Will they have UFI in 10g? I'm sort of nostalgic. I cannot install my
>>>3 360k 5.25 floppies with oracle 4.1 on any PC. How about oralink?
>>>Remarkably, it all used to run in 512k of RAM, which is less 
>>>  
>>>
>>then the 
>>
>>
>>>L3 cache size on any decent P4 system. How many hundreds of 
>>>  
>>>
>>megabytes 
>>
>>
>>>of RAM will I need for 10g? Don't tell me that RAM is cheap. EDO
>>>capable SDRAM for PCI/233 is NOT cheap.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Mladen Gogala
>>>Oracle DBA 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>>>Behalf Of Bob Metelsky
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:45 AM
>>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>>Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because 
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>it's so easy 
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>prompt).
>>>>
>>>>Try right click -  paste or click the upper left icon and 
>>>>choose paste To copy - choose mark then enter -its then in 
>>>>the "clipboard"
>>>>
>>>>Ive actually began to like sqlplus (opposed to sqlplusw). One 
>>>>good feature is you have your command history using the up 
>>>>arrow like regular shell 
>>>>
>>>>bob
>>>>-- 
>>>>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
>>>>-- 
>>>>Author: Bob Metelsky
>>>> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com
>>>>San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web 
>>>>
>>>>
>>hosting services
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>-
>>
>>
>>>>To REMOVE yo

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Indeed. It's SO cool to run the version 5 thing again. Will you be at 
the UKOUG conference in Birmingham in December by any chance?

Robson, Peter wrote:

Ah-a - NOW I see why you want my old version 5 manuals!!

peter
edinburgh
 

-Original Message-
From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: 10g: SQL Plus
Well, we have a good, working 5.25 floppy drive installed on 
our Oracle 
Museum PC (486, 25 MHz) now, and we're planning on installing 
WordPerfect 4.2, Lotus 1-2-3 (with the plug-in for Oracle, which Cary 
will bring over for the Database Forum next week), and other 
goodies. We 
have 5.1 running, and it's very, very fast to start up. Oh, 
and exports 
from 5.1 are fine to import in 9i. We haven't tested 10g yet.

We're showcasing this wonder - and the rest of the Oracle Museum for 
which some of you have so generously helped - at the 10g launch days 
next week here in Denmark.

Now, Mladen, would it be possible somehow to get hold of eg a zip of 
those 4.1 floppies?

We have of course ordered another 486 PC, and we intend to 
give it all 
of 4 MB of RAM like the other one.

The guy that sells all these things has a shop called 
Dinotech, and he 
still has about 9 new 5.25 drives from way back then. He'll sell for 
about 100 kroner each.

We paid 200 kroner for the IBM DOS 5 in its original wrap.

Mogens

Mladen Gogala wrote:

   

Will they have UFI in 10g? I'm sort of nostalgic. I cannot install my
3 360k 5.25 floppies with oracle 4.1 on any PC. How about oralink?
Remarkably, it all used to run in 512k of RAM, which is less 
 

then the 
   

L3 cache size on any decent P4 system. How many hundreds of 
 

megabytes 
   

of RAM will I need for 10g? Don't tell me that RAM is cheap. EDO
capable SDRAM for PCI/233 is NOT cheap.
--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 





 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Bob Metelsky
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:45 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus



  

   

Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because 


 

it's so easy 
  

   

to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command


 

prompt).

Try right click -  paste or click the upper left icon and 
choose paste To copy - choose mark then enter -its then in 
the "clipboard"

Ive actually began to like sqlplus (opposed to sqlplusw). One 
good feature is you have your command history using the up 
arrow like regular shell 

bob
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RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-25 Thread Robson, Peter
Ah-a - NOW I see why you want my old version 5 manuals!!

peter
edinburgh


> -Original Message-
> From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:45 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: 10g: SQL Plus
> 
> 
> Well, we have a good, working 5.25 floppy drive installed on 
> our Oracle 
> Museum PC (486, 25 MHz) now, and we're planning on installing 
> WordPerfect 4.2, Lotus 1-2-3 (with the plug-in for Oracle, which Cary 
> will bring over for the Database Forum next week), and other 
> goodies. We 
> have 5.1 running, and it's very, very fast to start up. Oh, 
> and exports 
> from 5.1 are fine to import in 9i. We haven't tested 10g yet.
> 
> We're showcasing this wonder - and the rest of the Oracle Museum for 
> which some of you have so generously helped - at the 10g launch days 
> next week here in Denmark.
> 
> Now, Mladen, would it be possible somehow to get hold of eg a zip of 
> those 4.1 floppies?
> 
> We have of course ordered another 486 PC, and we intend to 
> give it all 
> of 4 MB of RAM like the other one.
> 
> The guy that sells all these things has a shop called 
> Dinotech, and he 
> still has about 9 new 5.25 drives from way back then. He'll sell for 
> about 100 kroner each.
> 
> We paid 200 kroner for the IBM DOS 5 in its original wrap.
> 
> Mogens
> 
> Mladen Gogala wrote:
> 
> >Will they have UFI in 10g? I'm sort of nostalgic. I cannot install my
> >3 360k 5.25 floppies with oracle 4.1 on any PC. How about oralink?
> >Remarkably, it all used to run in 512k of RAM, which is less 
> then the 
> >L3 cache size on any decent P4 system. How many hundreds of 
> megabytes 
> >of RAM will I need for 10g? Don't tell me that RAM is cheap. EDO
> >capable SDRAM for PCI/233 is NOT cheap.
> >
> >--
> >Mladen Gogala
> >Oracle DBA 
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> >>Behalf Of Bob Metelsky
> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:45 AM
> >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because 
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>it's so easy 
> >>
> >>
> >>>to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>prompt).
> >>
> >>Try right click -  paste or click the upper left icon and 
> >>choose paste To copy - choose mark then enter -its then in 
> >>the "clipboard"
> >>
> >>Ive actually began to like sqlplus (opposed to sqlplusw). One 
> >>good feature is you have your command history using the up 
> >>arrow like regular shell 
> >>
> >>bob
> >>-- 
> >>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> >>-- 
> >>Author: Bob Metelsky
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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread bulbultyagi
In nt cmd shell , you could make copy pasting easy by going into properties
and selecting 'quick edit mode' .  In fact you could make this behaviour the
default by choosing 'save properties for future windows with same title'.
Then you need not select mark and copy , etc .  Just use the right and left
mouse buttons.
I prefer the cmd shell because of its excellent command history using arrow
keys.  In fact using the F7 key allows me to choose the command i want .

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> To copy - choose mark then enter -its then in the "clipboard"
>
> Ive actually began to like sqlplus (opposed to sqlplusw). One good
> feature is you have your command history using the up arrow like regular
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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Well, we have a good, working 5.25 floppy drive installed on our Oracle 
Museum PC (486, 25 MHz) now, and we're planning on installing 
WordPerfect 4.2, Lotus 1-2-3 (with the plug-in for Oracle, which Cary 
will bring over for the Database Forum next week), and other goodies. We 
have 5.1 running, and it's very, very fast to start up. Oh, and exports 
from 5.1 are fine to import in 9i. We haven't tested 10g yet.

We're showcasing this wonder - and the rest of the Oracle Museum for 
which some of you have so generously helped - at the 10g launch days 
next week here in Denmark.

Now, Mladen, would it be possible somehow to get hold of eg a zip of 
those 4.1 floppies?

We have of course ordered another 486 PC, and we intend to give it all 
of 4 MB of RAM like the other one.

The guy that sells all these things has a shop called Dinotech, and he 
still has about 9 new 5.25 drives from way back then. He'll sell for 
about 100 kroner each.

We paid 200 kroner for the IBM DOS 5 in its original wrap.

Mogens

Mladen Gogala wrote:

Will they have UFI in 10g? I'm sort of nostalgic. I cannot install my
3 360k 5.25 floppies with oracle 4.1 on any PC. How about oralink?
Remarkably, it all used to run in 512k of RAM, which is less then the 
L3 cache size on any decent P4 system. How many hundreds of megabytes 
of RAM will I need for 10g? Don't tell me that RAM is cheap. EDO
capable SDRAM for PCI/233 is NOT cheap.

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Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because 
 

it's so easy 
   

to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command
 

prompt).

Try right click -  paste or click the upper left icon and 
choose paste To copy - choose mark then enter -its then in 
the "clipboard"

Ive actually began to like sqlplus (opposed to sqlplusw). One 
good feature is you have your command history using the up 
arrow like regular shell 

bob
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RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread Mladen Gogala
Will they have UFI in 10g? I'm sort of nostalgic. I cannot install my
3 360k 5.25 floppies with oracle 4.1 on any PC. How about oralink?
Remarkably, it all used to run in 512k of RAM, which is less then the 
L3 cache size on any decent P4 system. How many hundreds of megabytes 
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capable SDRAM for PCI/233 is NOT cheap.

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> 
> 
> > Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because 
> it's so easy 
> > to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command
> prompt).
> 
> Try right click -  paste or click the upper left icon and 
> choose paste To copy - choose mark then enter -its then in 
> the "clipboard"
> 
> Ive actually began to like sqlplus (opposed to sqlplusw). One 
> good feature is you have your command history using the up 
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RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread Norris, Gregory T [ITS]
> Ive actually began to like sqlplus (opposed to
> sqlplusw). One good feature is you have your
> command history using the up arrow like
> regular shell

And it can be minimized or moved out of the way while a query is active.

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RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread Bob Metelsky

> Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because it's so easy
> to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command
prompt).

Try right click -  paste or click the upper left icon and choose paste
To copy - choose mark then enter -its then in the "clipboard"

Ive actually began to like sqlplus (opposed to sqlplusw). One good
feature is you have your command history using the up arrow like regular
shell 

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RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Melanie Caffrey
Nope.

Sqlplusw is the little gui usually available off of your start ->
programs window menu items.

isqlplus is Web-based and invoked through a browser.

For example,

Invoking the following type of url will bring it up in your browser:

http://your_server_name:your_port_number/isqlplus

Note that you do need the Apache server installed and running in order
to use this.  However, when you install Oracle, unless you specify
otherwise, this will happen automatically if you choose the default
installation.

And, actually, you only need to specify the port number (above) if you'd
like to choose a port number other than the one (I believe it's still
7778 unless it's changed) that Oracle assigns by default.

HTH,
Melanie

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Is sqlplusw the same as iSQL/Plus?

Thanks,
Ken


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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
Is sqlplusw the same as iSQL/Plus?

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> > > have SQL Plus in 10g.
> > > I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though some from
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> > > removed?
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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Richard Stroupe
No worries Johnathan you are correct its only the Windows based GUI that is being
desupported in favor of iSQL*PLUS.  Per a metalink note (dont know the exact
number) but the command line is not going anywhere!!



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> My understanding, which of course could be totally wrong, is
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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread bulbultyagi
They were supposed to get rid of sqlplusw

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> > have SQL Plus in 10g.
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> > removed?
> >
> > Thanks In Advance,
> > Jay
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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Paul Baumgartel
How could Oracle kill SQL*Plus?  What would replace it, SQL*Plus
Worksheet?  Ugh.

Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because it's so easy
to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command prompt).


--- Jonathan Gennick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Monday, September 22, 2003, 12:19:41 PM, you wrote:
> JW> Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they
> still have 
> JW> SQL Plus in 10g.
> JW> I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though some
> from this 
> JW> list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been
> removed?
> 
> My understanding, which of course could be totally wrong, is
> that only the psuedo-GUI Windows version of SQL*Plus was
> going away. You know, the version that opens in a Windows
> window, but is still a command-line application. But that's
> something I was told way back, maybe at last year's
> OracleWorld, so don't put too much stock in it.
> 
> I do hope SQL*Plus itself hangs around. O'Reilly wants me to
> revise my SQL*Plus book next year. It'd be a bit of a bummer
> if the product got yanked out from under me.
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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Monday, September 22, 2003, 12:19:41 PM, you wrote:
JW> Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still have 
JW> SQL Plus in 10g.
JW> I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though some from this 
JW> list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been removed?

My understanding, which of course could be totally wrong, is
that only the psuedo-GUI Windows version of SQL*Plus was
going away. You know, the version that opens in a Windows
window, but is still a command-line application. But that's
something I was told way back, maybe at last year's
OracleWorld, so don't put too much stock in it.

I do hope SQL*Plus itself hangs around. O'Reilly wants me to
revise my SQL*Plus book next year. It'd be a bit of a bummer
if the product got yanked out from under me.

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RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Cary Millsap
It's in the beta 1 software.


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Ron Rogers
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:55 AM
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According to the Oracle rep at a 10G demo, SQLPLUS and PL/SQL still
exist.
Ron

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/22/03 12:19PM >>>
Hello:

Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still
have 
SQL Plus in 10g.
I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though some from
this 
list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been removed?

Thanks In Advance,
Jay

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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Peter Gram
Hej Jay

Yes it stil there :-) 

Jay Wade wrote:

Hello:

Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still 
have SQL Plus in 10g.
I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though some from 
this list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been 
removed?

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RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Jesse, Rich
Going from "svrmgrl" in 8 to "srvctl" in 9iRAC, I keep typing in "svrctl"
and then can't figure out why it doesn't work...

Rich

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> 
> 
> Actually, they will have SQL*PlusPlus, an object oriented extension of
> SQL*Plus.
> Then there will be Enterprise Plus Stringbeans, Pluslets, 
> active plus pages
> and so forth.
> Ultimately, they'll end up with fclstwkgr (Freaking Command 
> Line SQL Tool
> Which 
> Keeps Getting Renamed).
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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Rogers
According to the Oracle rep at a 10G demo, SQLPLUS and PL/SQL still
exist.
Ron

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/22/03 12:19PM >>>
Hello:

Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still
have 
SQL Plus in 10g.
I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though some from
this 
list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been removed?

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RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Mladen Gogala
Actually, they will have SQL*PlusPlus, an object oriented extension of
SQL*Plus.
Then there will be Enterprise Plus Stringbeans, Pluslets, active plus pages
and so forth.
Ultimately, they'll end up with fclstwkgr (Freaking Command Line SQL Tool
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> 
> Hello:
> 
> Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that 
> they still have 
> SQL Plus in 10g.
> I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though 
> some from this 
> list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been removed?
> 
> Thanks In Advance,
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Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread brian . mcgraw
Affirmative.  I used SQL*Plus during one of the Hands-On 10G Database sessions at 
OracleWorld.

Brian

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> Hello:
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