Re: A question for the hourlies out there...

2003-09-30 Thread Stephane Faroult
"Bellow, Bambi" wrote:
> 
> Friends --
> 
> I find it weird that I've been consulting some 25 years and have never run
> into this situation, and really could use your two cents.  Here's the deal.
> I am supposed to travel for a client.  They have me on a plane Sunday,
> expect me to work M-F onsite *and possibly the weekend*, returning Monday.
> Now, if I get to the airport at 9AM for a flight at 11AM and arrives at 3PM
> for a client meeting at 4-6PM, how does that bill?  M-F, I bill for hours
> onsite.  If I work Sat/Sun, I bill for hours onsite... but what if I don't?
> My time isn't my own... I'm at the client's service... I'm not with my
> family... that's not time off... how does that bill?  Monday, I get to the
> airport at 6AM for a flight at 8AM arriving back at 3PM... does that bill a
> full day, or just time in the air?
> 
> TIA!
> Bambi.
> 

I usually bill per day, not per hour, but a couple of years ago I had a
contract where I was spending 2 days every two weeks at a place
considerably more remote from my home than my ususal contracts
(something like 4 hours door to door). I was arriving at 11am, leaving
the following day at 4pm and fully billing two days. You can argue,
which is usually true, that you can read doc and write reports at the
airport or in the plane. I have also been sent to Singapore by a French
company, the day spent in the plane (business class) eating, watching
movies and being pampered by stewardesses was invoiced at the usual
rate.

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Re: A question for the hourlies out there...

2003-09-30 Thread Tanel Poder
In States things are probably different, but in few European companies I've
worked for, it's that you get paid for the hours you work (naturally), if
you work on the weekends you get paid as well - if don't then you don't. If
you arrive one day earlier for being able to start in the morning next day,
they paid half a day for that or smth.

Of course, it matters what you've negotiated in your contract.
I hope this helped,
Tanel.

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> Friends --
>
> I find it weird that I've been consulting some 25 years and have never run
> into this situation, and really could use your two cents.  Here's the
deal.
> I am supposed to travel for a client.  They have me on a plane Sunday,
> expect me to work M-F onsite *and possibly the weekend*, returning Monday.
> Now, if I get to the airport at 9AM for a flight at 11AM and arrives at
3PM
> for a client meeting at 4-6PM, how does that bill?  M-F, I bill for hours
> onsite.  If I work Sat/Sun, I bill for hours onsite... but what if I
don't?
> My time isn't my own... I'm at the client's service... I'm not with my
> family... that's not time off... how does that bill?  Monday, I get to the
> airport at 6AM for a flight at 8AM arriving back at 3PM... does that bill
a
> full day, or just time in the air?
>
> TIA!
> Bambi.
>
>
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RE: A question for the hourlies out there...

2003-09-30 Thread Gary W. Parker
If you have to travel at the client's request / requirement, then you should be able
to bill for your travel time, beginning with the time you arrive at the airport and
ending with the arrival time.  Any weekend work for the client should be billed for
the time onsite.  (You may want to consider billing the travel time at a reduced
rate.)

I would think that you would want to negotiate this with the client before you travel
and put it in writing, so that there are no surprises at invoice time.  Remember, the
client is hiring your expertise and your time is valuable.

My $.02

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Bellow, Bambi
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:09 PM
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Friends --

I find it weird that I've been consulting some 25 years and have never run
into this situation, and really could use your two cents.  Here's the deal.
I am supposed to travel for a client.  They have me on a plane Sunday,
expect me to work M-F onsite *and possibly the weekend*, returning Monday.
Now, if I get to the airport at 9AM for a flight at 11AM and arrives at 3PM
for a client meeting at 4-6PM, how does that bill?  M-F, I bill for hours
onsite.  If I work Sat/Sun, I bill for hours onsite... but what if I don't?
My time isn't my own... I'm at the client's service... I'm not with my
family... that's not time off... how does that bill?  Monday, I get to the
airport at 6AM for a flight at 8AM arriving back at 3PM... does that bill a
full day, or just time in the air?

TIA!
Bambi.


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