RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-14 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Steve,


I suspect this could be another BUG like your old  V$sysstat.

By any chance you have set the _sql_exec_progression_cost to
lowest values?


Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan
Bangalore, INDIA



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Is my V$SESSION_LONGOPS view broken?

Check out the curious results below. Notice the changing SID-serial# and how
elapsed seconds gyrates. None of the below sessions are in V$SESSION. The
sql address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. (Note, we are
using PQO with timed statistics.)
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Re: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Jonathan Lewis


No version numbers, and no O/S details.
Cary Millsap mentioned to me a little while
ago that on one of his linux platforms the
values you got from timed_statistics seemed
to be a very good random number generator ;)

Possibly this is just a 32-bit/64-bit misalignment
in code - I've seem similar silly numbers appearing
for that reason.



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|Well here's what's curious...
|Notice the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash.
|Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero to
|447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds between the queries.
How can a
|
|session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed time suddenly appear???
Why are
|there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't even
been up
|that long? None of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in
V$SESSION. The
|sql
|address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view
|supposed to behave this way?
|


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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Mark Leith

Is it just me, or am I having a slight case of de ja vu here ;P

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Lewis
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No version numbers, and no O/S details.
Cary Millsap mentioned to me a little while
ago that on one of his linux platforms the
values you got from timed_statistics seemed
to be a very good random number generator ;)

Possibly this is just a 32-bit/64-bit misalignment
in code - I've seem similar silly numbers appearing
for that reason.



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Date: 07 March 2002 21:36


|Well here's what's curious...
|Notice the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash.
|Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero to
|447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds between the queries.
How can a
|
|session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed time suddenly appear???
Why are
|there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't even
been up
|that long? None of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in
V$SESSION. The
|sql
|address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view
|supposed to behave this way?
|


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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Orr, Steve

No... it's Deja vu all over again.

Yogi Berra


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Is it just me, or am I having a slight case of de ja vu here ;P

-Original Message-
Lewis
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



No version numbers, and no O/S details.
Cary Millsap mentioned to me a little while
ago that on one of his linux platforms the
values you got from timed_statistics seemed
to be a very good random number generator ;)

Possibly this is just a 32-bit/64-bit misalignment
in code - I've seem similar silly numbers appearing
for that reason.



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Date: 07 March 2002 21:36


|Well here's what's curious...
|Notice the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash.
|Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero to
|447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds between the queries.
How can a
|
|session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed time suddenly appear???
Why are
|there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't even
been up
|that long? None of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in
V$SESSION. The
|sql
|address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view
|supposed to behave this way?
|


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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???





There have been a few posts today which are repeat posts from a few days ago


-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???



Is it just me, or am I having a slight case of de ja vu here ;P


-Original Message-
Lewis
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




No version numbers, and no O/S details.
Cary Millsap mentioned to me a little while
ago that on one of his linux platforms the
values you got from timed_statistics seemed
to be a very good random number generator ;)


Possibly this is just a 32-bit/64-bit misalignment
in code - I've seem similar silly numbers appearing
for that reason.




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|Well here's what's curious...
|Notice the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash.
|Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero to
|447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds between the queries.
How can a
|
|session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed time suddenly appear???
Why are
|there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't even
been up
|that long? None of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in
V$SESSION. The
|sql
|address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view
|supposed to behave this way?
|



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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Title: RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???



John:

These 
are not reposts.. Infact one of my post (which I have sent long back) appeared 
today.

Jared: 
Any ideas?


Best Regards,K GopalakrishnanBangalore, 
INDIA

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hallas JohnSent: 
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  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS 
  ???
  There have been a few posts today which are repeat posts from 
  a few days ago 
  -Original Message- From: Mark 
  Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 13 March 2002 12:53 To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 
  Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ??? 
  Is it just me, or am I having a slight case of de ja vu here 
  ;P 
  -Original Message- Lewis Sent: 13 March 2002 11:34 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  No version numbers, and no O/S details. Cary Millsap mentioned to me a little while ago 
  that on one of his linux platforms the values you got 
  from timed_statistics seemed to be a very good random 
  number generator ;) 
  Possibly this is just a 32-bit/64-bit misalignment 
  in code - I've seem similar silly numbers appearing 
  for that reason. 
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  -Original Message- To: 
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  Date: 07 March 2002 21:36 
  |Well here's what's curious... |Notice 
  the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash. |Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero 
  to |447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds 
  between the queries. How can a | |session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed 
  time suddenly appear??? Why are |there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't 
  even been up |that long? None 
  of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in V$SESSION. 
  The |sql |address and hash is 
  not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view |supposed to behave this way? | 
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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Title: RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???



Man! I'm glad somebody else said something. 


I was 
frantically adjusting my medication.

Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

  -Original Message-From: Hallas John 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:49 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???
  There have been a few posts today which are repeat posts from 
  a few days ago 
  -Original Message- From: Mark 
  Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 13 March 2002 12:53 To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 
  Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ??? 
  Is it just me, or am I having a slight case of de ja vu here 
  ;P 
  -Original Message- Lewis Sent: 13 March 2002 11:34 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  No version numbers, and no O/S details. Cary Millsap mentioned to me a little while ago 
  that on one of his linux platforms the values you got 
  from timed_statistics seemed to be a very good random 
  number generator ;) 
  Possibly this is just a 32-bit/64-bit misalignment 
  in code - I've seem similar silly numbers appearing 
  for that reason. 
  Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk 
  
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  -Original Message- To: 
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  Date: 07 March 2002 21:36 
  |Well here's what's curious... |Notice 
  the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash. |Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero 
  to |447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds 
  between the queries. How can a | |session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed 
  time suddenly appear??? Why are |there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't 
  even been up |that long? None 
  of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in V$SESSION. 
  The |sql |address and hash is 
  not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view |supposed to behave this way? | 
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Re: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Jared . Still

I think this same question was asked last week, wasn't it?

Check the archives, there was an explanation.

Jared





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Is my V$SESSION_LONGOPS view broken? 

Check out the curious results below. Notice the changing SID-serial# and 
how
elapsed seconds gyrates. None of the below sessions are in V$SESSION. The
sql address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. (Note, we are
using PQO with timed statistics.)

col SID-ser# format a10
col secs format 999,999,999 heading Elapsed|Seconds
col addhash format a15 heading SQL Address|Hash

select  substr(lo.sid||'-'||lo.serial#,1,10) SID-Ser#,
lo.last_update_time Last Update,
lo.elapsed_seconds secs,
lo.sql_address||'-'||lo.sql_hash_value addhash
fromv$session_longops lo
where   lo.username not like 'SYS%'
/
Elapsed SQL Address
SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
-- ---  ---
30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
73-259303/07/2002 11:39:54  447,507,594 56B9FA30-792775

SQL/
Elapsed SQL Address
SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
-- ---  ---
30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
51-61397   03/07/2002 11:40:520 56B9FA30-792775

SQL/
Elapsed SQL Address
SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
-- ---  ---
30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
63-34890   03/07/2002 11:41:59  447,507,719 56B9FA30-792775

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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Ron Rogers

What I like are the responses with todays date that match the original
question dated March 07. The answer was exactly the same answer just a
new date. 
Somebody justifying work by count(emails)??


ex:#dated 03/13/2002 11:03 AM
Yes, the man is a X$ marvel

What that I could remember all of the things that
he seems to have at the tip of his emails.

RF

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Oracle DBA Technical Lead
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 To give credit where credit is due, this came from my friend 
 K Gopalakrishnan...

You mean K 'X$' Gopalakrishnan, don't you ;-)

John Kanagaraj

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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Freeman, Robert

Perhaps someone has picked up a virus that is picking up old mail and
resending it... :-))

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What I like are the responses with todays date that match the original
question dated March 07. The answer was exactly the same answer just a
new date. 
Somebody justifying work by count(emails)??


ex:#dated 03/13/2002 11:03 AM
Yes, the man is a X$ marvel

What that I could remember all of the things that
he seems to have at the tip of his emails.

RF

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 To give credit where credit is due, this came from my friend 
 K Gopalakrishnan...

You mean K 'X$' Gopalakrishnan, don't you ;-)

John Kanagaraj

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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Steve,

Hmmm  doesn't look right as KG pointed out, might be a bug ... 

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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-13 Thread Jared . Still

No, not a clue.

I'll see what I can find out.

Jared





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John:
 
These are not reposts.. Infact one of my post (which I have sent long 
back) appeared today.
 
Jared: Any ideas?
 
 
Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan
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There have been a few posts today which are repeat posts from a few days 
ago 
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Is it just me, or am I having a slight case of de ja vu here ;P 
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No version numbers, and no O/S details. 
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ago that on one of his linux platforms the 
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to be a very good random number generator ;) 
Possibly this is just a 32-bit/64-bit misalignment 
in code - I've seem similar silly numbers appearing 
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Date: 07 March 2002 21:36 

|Well here's what's curious... 
|Notice the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash. 
|Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero to 
|447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds between the queries. 
How can a 
| 
|session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed time suddenly appear??? 
Why are 
|there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't even 
been up 
|that long? None of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in 
V$SESSION. The 
|sql 
|address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view 
|supposed to behave this way? 
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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-07 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

No it is not broken, unless someone explicitly updates underlying
information it is not visible  I monitor this when I am creating or
rebuilding indexes to importing ... at that time Oracle will populate
relevant fields, and that is really useful.

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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-07 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Steve,


I suspect this could be another BUG like your old  V$sysstat.

By any chance you have set the _sql_exec_progression_cost to
lowest values?


Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan
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Is my V$SESSION_LONGOPS view broken?

Check out the curious results below. Notice the changing SID-serial# and how
elapsed seconds gyrates. None of the below sessions are in V$SESSION. The
sql address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. (Note, we are
using PQO with timed statistics.)
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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-07 Thread Orr, Steve

Well here's what's curious... 
Notice the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash. 
Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero to 
447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds between the queries. How can a

session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed time suddenly appear??? Why are 
there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't even been up 
that long? None of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in V$SESSION. The
sql 
address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view
supposed to behave this way?

-Original Message-

No it is not broken, unless someone explicitly updates underlying
information it is not visible  I monitor this when I am creating or
rebuilding indexes to importing ... at that time Oracle will populate
relevant fields, and that is really useful.
Raj
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Is my V$SESSION_LONGOPS view broken? 

Check out the curious results below. Notice the changing SID-serial# and how
elapsed seconds gyrates. None of the below sessions are in V$SESSION. The
sql address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. (Note, we are
using PQO with timed statistics.)

col SID-ser# format a10
col secs format 999,999,999 heading Elapsed|Seconds
col addhash format a15 heading SQL Address|Hash

select  substr(lo.sid||'-'||lo.serial#,1,10) SID-Ser#,
lo.last_update_time Last Update,
lo.elapsed_seconds secs,
lo.sql_address||'-'||lo.sql_hash_value addhash
fromv$session_longops lo
where   lo.username not like 'SYS%'
/
Elapsed SQL Address
SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
-- ---  ---
30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
73-259303/07/2002 11:39:54  447,507,594 56B9FA30-792775

SQL/
Elapsed SQL Address
SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
-- ---  ---
30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
51-61397   03/07/2002 11:40:520 56B9FA30-792775

SQL/
Elapsed SQL Address
SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
-- ---  ---
30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
63-34890   03/07/2002 11:41:59  447,507,719 56B9FA30-792775

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Re: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-07 Thread Jeremiah Wilton

I see what you're concerned about.  The recent sessions' operations
are getting aged out of v$session_longops almost as soon as they are
done, and there are a bunch of old sessions' operations sitting around
in there from last November.

Looking at some of my systems, I see a couple stragglers from long ago
sitting in there, but it doesn't seem to be hurting anything.  Yours
does look a little broken.  The entries in v$session_longops should
survive beyond the session disconnecting.  Note that you are cutting
off your sql hash value with the column command and also combining it
with SQL Address, which is why it doesn't match anything.

In general though, it looks like your v$session_longops is correctly
displaying long operations as they are occurring, which is what most
people watch v$session_longops for.

Does anyone know what governs how long entries in v$session_longops
are preserved?

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On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Orr, Steve wrote:

 Is my V$SESSION_LONGOPS view broken? 
 
 Check out the curious results below. Notice the changing SID-serial# and how
 elapsed seconds gyrates. None of the below sessions are in V$SESSION. The
 sql address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. (Note, we are
 using PQO with timed statistics.)
 
 col SID-ser# format a10
 col secs format 999,999,999 heading Elapsed|Seconds
 col addhash format a15 heading SQL Address|Hash
 
 select  substr(lo.sid||'-'||lo.serial#,1,10) SID-Ser#,
 lo.last_update_time Last Update,
 lo.elapsed_seconds secs,
 lo.sql_address||'-'||lo.sql_hash_value addhash
 fromv$session_longops lo
 where   lo.username not like 'SYS%'
 /
 Elapsed SQL Address
 SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
 -- ---  ---
 30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
 24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
 30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
 73-259303/07/2002 11:39:54  447,507,594 56B9FA30-792775
 
 SQL/
 Elapsed SQL Address
 SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
 -- ---  ---
 30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
 24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
 30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
 51-61397   03/07/2002 11:40:520 56B9FA30-792775
 
 SQL/
 Elapsed SQL Address
 SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
 -- ---  ---
 30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
 30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
 24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
 30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
 63-34890   03/07/2002 11:41:59  447,507,719 56B9FA30-792775

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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-07 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Steve,

Hmmm  doesn't look right as KG pointed out, might be a bug ... 

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Re: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-07 Thread Jonathan Lewis


No version numbers, and no O/S details.
Cary Millsap mentioned to me a little while
ago that on one of his linux platforms the
values you got from timed_statistics seemed
to be a very good random number generator ;)

Possibly this is just a 32-bit/64-bit misalignment
in code - I've seem similar silly numbers appearing
for that reason.



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Date: 07 March 2002 21:36


|Well here's what's curious...
|Notice the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash.
|Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero to
|447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds between the queries.
How can a
|
|session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed time suddenly appear???
Why are
|there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't even
been up
|that long? None of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in
V$SESSION. The
|sql
|address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view
|supposed to behave this way?
|


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RE: Anyone use V$SESSION_LONGOPS ???

2002-03-07 Thread Orr, Steve

Here's what I just got from OWS:

After further research, this is a known issue that has development feed
back as follows:

BUG:1348362 'SQL EXECUTION' INFORMATION IN V$SESSION_LONGOPS IS INACCURATE
WHEN SORTING
Status: 92,Closed, Not a Bug

This is not a bug.. it is expected behaviour. As PQ relies on several slave
processes to complete their partial work and report the statistics, and a
co-ordinator to aggregate them and update the statistics, it is inherent in
PQ execution model that updates to statistics is not smooth and in some
particular cases it is possible that execution is 100% complete before
updates are made. So I think it should be treated as limition of our PQ
architecture rather than as a bug. Any attempt to guaruntee the smoothness
of progress of 'SQL Execution' operation will call for change in design and
architecture of PQ execution model. So I would treat this as not a bug, but
a limitation which can not be fixed.


NOW THAT WAS ENTERTAINING!!! :-)

Oracle Customer: Looks like a bug, walks like a bug, talks like a bug... 
Oracle Support: No, it's really just another innocuous insect.


Steve Orr



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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:13 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Well here's what's curious... 
Notice the changing SID-serial# with the same sql address and hash. 
Notice how elapsed seconds gyrates. Elapsed seconds goes from zero to 
447,507,719 yet there were only a few seconds between the queries. How can a

session with 447,507,719 seconds of elapsed time suddenly appear??? Why are 
there sessions going back to November when the computer hasn't even been up 
that long? None of the sessions in V$SESSION_LONGOPS are in V$SESSION. The
sql 
address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. Is this view
supposed to behave this way?

-Original Message-

No it is not broken, unless someone explicitly updates underlying
information it is not visible  I monitor this when I am creating or
rebuilding indexes to importing ... at that time Oracle will populate
relevant fields, and that is really useful.
Raj
__
Rajendra Jamadagni  MIS, ESPN Inc.

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Is my V$SESSION_LONGOPS view broken? 

Check out the curious results below. Notice the changing SID-serial# and how
elapsed seconds gyrates. None of the below sessions are in V$SESSION. The
sql address and hash is not extant in V$SQL, V$SQLAREA, etc. (Note, we are
using PQO with timed statistics.)

col SID-ser# format a10
col secs format 999,999,999 heading Elapsed|Seconds
col addhash format a15 heading SQL Address|Hash

select  substr(lo.sid||'-'||lo.serial#,1,10) SID-Ser#,
lo.last_update_time Last Update,
lo.elapsed_seconds secs,
lo.sql_address||'-'||lo.sql_hash_value addhash
fromv$session_longops lo
where   lo.username not like 'SYS%'
/
Elapsed SQL Address
SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
-- ---  ---
30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
73-259303/07/2002 11:39:54  447,507,594 56B9FA30-792775

SQL/
Elapsed SQL Address
SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
-- ---  ---
30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
51-61397   03/07/2002 11:40:520 56B9FA30-792775

SQL/
Elapsed SQL Address
SID-Ser#   Last Update  Seconds Hash
-- ---  ---
30-602111/28/2001 23:20:21   77 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:21:35   74 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:22:21   46 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:23:24   62 095B5B94-0
30-602111/28/2001 23:24:26   62 095B5B94-0
24-343511/28/2001 23:59:309 59D39B8C-363345
30-711011/29/2001 00:40:219 59D39B8C-363345
63-34890   03/07/2002 11:41:59  447,507,719 56B9FA30-792775

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