RE: Best way to upgrade database/move data

2001-07-27 Thread Mark Leith

Rick,

I see you've already had some good advice on exp/imp 'ing the data, so I'll
leave that as is.

One question - Why are you moving to NT again? If this is an all new server,
why don't you slap Win2K on there? Much better platform..

Cheers

Mark

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T (Richard)
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Hi DBAs,

Currently I have NT server 4.0/Oracle 8.0.5 with about 400 million
records/450 tables,indices,etc.

We will be getting a new NT server with Oracle 8.1.7.  We will increase
block size from 2k to 8k

What would be the best way to move data/users/sequences,etc from existing
server to new server?  Essentially replicate everything from old server to
new server.

Thanks
Rick
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re: Best way to upgrade database/move data [NT]

2001-07-26 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Don't know if it is "the best way", but here is how you can get 
Oracle's "how to":

http://metalink.oracle.com

click: "Technical Libraries" | "Data Servers" | 
   "Basic Administration" | "Platform Info" | "Microsoft" |
   "Administration & Configuration v7" 

(it actually also covers v8, but anyway...)

select the DOC ID# 61747.1

Title: 

 "Moving a 7.3 or 8.x database from one Windows NT Server to another"

Summary: 

   1) shutdown database and stop services on box#1
   2) copy files to box#2
   3) setup services on box#2
   4) start services and startup database on box#2


The above document has an internal link that references the following:

DOC ID# 61621.1

Title:

   "WINNT/WIN2000: Recreating Oracle Services and Instances 
from the Command Line"

The above document has an internal link that references the following:

DOC ID# 61716.1

Title: 

   "Oracle Database Services on Windows NT"


regards,
ep


> From: "Cale, Rick T (Richard)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:57:51 -0700
> Subject: Best way to upgrade database/move data
>...
>We will be getting a new NT server with Oracle 8.1.7.  We will 
>increase block size from 2k to 8k
>
>What would be the best way to move data/users/sequences,etc from 
>existing server to new server?  Essentially replicate everything 
>from old server to new server.

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RE: Best way to upgrade database/move data

2001-07-25 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

If you want to change the block size at the same time (and not use 9i) then
I think a new database build / import will be required.

If you need to speed up the import process then it may help to use BMC's
PATROL DB-Import for Oracle.
http://www.bmc.com/dataone/dbimport  Note the trial is free but the
application is actually a commercial one.

Patrol DB-Import can use SQL Loader in parallel or use OCI loads and may
speed your import up (depending on your actual database / schema
configurations).

Regards,
Bruce Reardon
(not associated with BMC in any way)


-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2001 1:41 

'Best' depends on a lot of things.

If you have a narrow window of opportunity, export/import may not
be a viable solution as it is so slow.  Dumping your data to flat
files and using sqlloader to load the data may be another way for
you to do this.  More complex that exp/imp, takes more planning 
and work, but faster to execute.

You can also just restore a backup on the new system and 
upgrade it.  This is a fast way to move a database.

Jared

On Wednesday 25 July 2001 09:02, Cale, Rick T (Richard) wrote:
> Hi DBAs,
>
> Currently I have NT server 4.0/Oracle 8.0.5 with about 400 million
> records/450 tables,indices,etc.
>
> We will be getting a new NT server with Oracle 8.1.7.  We will increase
> block size from 2k to 8k
>
> What would be the best way to move data/users/sequences,etc from existing
> server to new server?  Essentially replicate everything from old server to
> new server.
>
> Thanks
> Rick
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Re: Best way to upgrade database/move data

2001-07-25 Thread Jared Still


'Best' depends on a lot of things.

If you have a narrow window of opportunity, export/import may not
be a viable solution as it is so slow.  Dumping your data to flat
files and using sqlloader to load the data may be another way for
you to do this.  More complex that exp/imp, takes more planning 
and work, but faster to execute.

You can also just restore a backup on the new system and 
upgrade it.  This is a fast way to move a database.

Jared

On Wednesday 25 July 2001 09:02, Cale, Rick T (Richard) wrote:
> Hi DBAs,
>
> Currently I have NT server 4.0/Oracle 8.0.5 with about 400 million
> records/450 tables,indices,etc.
>
> We will be getting a new NT server with Oracle 8.1.7.  We will increase
> block size from 2k to 8k
>
> What would be the best way to move data/users/sequences,etc from existing
> server to new server?  Essentially replicate everything from old server to
> new server.
>
> Thanks
> Rick
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Re: Best way to upgrade database/move data

2001-07-25 Thread Mustafa

Your best way is to do a full export of the 8.0.5 data and import it into
the new 8.1.7 database.

Hope this helps,
Defry
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> Hi DBAs,
>
> Currently I have NT server 4.0/Oracle 8.0.5 with about 400 million
> records/450 tables,indices,etc.
>
> We will be getting a new NT server with Oracle 8.1.7.  We will increase
> block size from 2k to 8k
>
> What would be the best way to move data/users/sequences,etc from existing
> server to new server?  Essentially replicate everything from old server to
> new server.
>
> Thanks
> Rick
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