RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Are you serious?
Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?

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Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James

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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

James - Have you considered just maintaining the Oracle tables and then
attaching (or whatever the Access word is) the Oracle table in Access? That
way you have a single table, single source, etc. Simple is good.
Dennis Williams
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Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James

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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Post, Ethan

James can you tell us more about the requirements of your
environment/software that would cause such a solution to arise.  I can see
the possibility of writing a MS Access client that perhaps your sales staff
uses that replicates with the database.  Hopefully, you don't have too many
tables.  You really are not going to have a lot of success I think using
anything but a PL/SQL and VBA solution in this regard. 

- Ethan

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Are you serious?
Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:09 PM
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Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Xing, James

The Oracle server is on our internal network, the MS Access is on a server
from ISP, which is outside of our network. The cost to eliminate the MS
Access, merge all application to our Oracle is too high, so we decide to
stay the way it is.
 
It's not real replication, just copy(move) the data from Oracle to MS Access
in batch process, but we want to automate the process.

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 From: Khedr, Waleed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:24 PM
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 Subject:  RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS
 Access
 
 Are you serious?
 Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hi DBAs,
 
 I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
 Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
 The data is very static.
 
 Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
 change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
 replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.
 
 I am looking for solutions
 1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
 2) to merge the data into Oracle
 3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
 in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 
 
 Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
 thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then
 compare.
 
 TIA
 James
 
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Post, Ethan

You will need to use VBA and DAO to.

1. Connect to the Oracle database.
2. Delete or drop the tables in the Access database.
3. Insert or create the tables from the Oracle database.

Anyone proficient with VBA and DAO and Access should be able to do this very
easily. 

- Ethan

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The Oracle server is on our internal network, the MS Access is on a server
from ISP, which is outside of our network. The cost to eliminate the MS
Access, merge all application to our Oracle is too high, so we decide to
stay the way it is.
 
It's not real replication, just copy(move) the data from Oracle to MS Access
in batch process, but we want to automate the process.

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 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:24 PM
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 Access
 
 Are you serious?
 Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?
 
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Post, Ethan

I am wondering what the license issues with this would be.  - E

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James - Have you considered just maintaining the Oracle tables and then
attaching (or whatever the Access word is) the Oracle table in Access? That
way you have a single table, single source, etc. Simple is good.
Dennis Williams
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Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Pardee, Roy E

Can you not substitute say, Oracle Lite for Access on the 'downstream' sites
 use Oracle's native replication?  (Or keep Access as a front-end, but use
OL for the actual storage  the replication.)  I would guess you'd be in for
less work/trouble that way (tho I know zip about Oracle's replication
features).

If you can't, I would try to find a third-party tool that can do it
automagically (http://www.aardvark.on.ca/pd/replicate.html claim to have
such a solution).  If that fails, consider just doing a brute-force complete
update of the Access db  have your downstream sites FTP the entire new mdb
file over top of the old version.

HTH,

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487

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James can you tell us more about the requirements of your
environment/software that would cause such a solution to arise.  I can see
the possibility of writing a MS Access client that perhaps your sales staff
uses that replicates with the database.  Hopefully, you don't have too many
tables.  You really are not going to have a lot of success I think using
anything but a PL/SQL and VBA solution in this regard. 

- Ethan

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Are you serious?
Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Xing, James

Thanks Dennis, link to Oracle in Access through ODBC is one option, actually
good idea.., if I can get through the network. the Access and Oracle are
on different network. 

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 Access
 
 James - Have you considered just maintaining the Oracle tables and then
 attaching (or whatever the Access word is) the Oracle table in Access?
 That
 way you have a single table, single source, etc. Simple is good.
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hi DBAs,
 
 I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
 Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
 The data is very static.
 
 Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
 change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
 replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.
 
 I am looking for solutions
 1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
 2) to merge the data into Oracle
 3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
 in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 
 
 Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
 thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then
 compare.
 
 TIA
 James
 
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Switching an Access application from using Access tables to Oracle ODBC
linked tables or ADO tables is extremely easy. Then you can go directly to
your Oracle DB or to a new one outside the network that could be sync using
Oracle Technology.

Waleed

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The Oracle server is on our internal network, the MS Access is on a server
from ISP, which is outside of our network. The cost to eliminate the MS
Access, merge all application to our Oracle is too high, so we decide to
stay the way it is.
 
It's not real replication, just copy(move) the data from Oracle to MS Access
in batch process, but we want to automate the process.

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 From: Khedr, Waleed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:24 PM
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 Subject:  RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS
 Access
 
 Are you serious?
 Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hi DBAs,
 
 I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
 Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
 The data is very static.
 
 Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
 change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
 replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.
 
 I am looking for solutions
 1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
 2) to merge the data into Oracle
 3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
 in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 
 
 Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
 thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then
 compare.
 
 TIA
 James
 
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