RE: ECM / BCV / hot backup

2002-12-05 Thread Gogala, Mladen



I 
agree with that. Unfortunately, that is the only way because RMAN doesn't 
support BCV's just yet.
The 
problem with BCV is that the database on the "Business Continuity Volume" is the 
same as the
original, including the DBID. As you know, RMAN uses 
DBID for registration purposes and you cannot
register the resulting database. What would be needed 
is for RMAN to start time-finder itself and copy
(used 
to be "SRDF") the original database to the "BCV" version, but we aren't there 
yet. What is that 
"ECO 
alliance" doing, anyway (ECO = EMC, Cisco, Oracle). Be sure to have large 
MAXHISTORY
value 
so that your control file contains sufficient number of redo 
logs.

  -Original Message-From: Tim Gorman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:49 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
  ECM / BCV / hot backup
  
  
  
   
  Do backup controlfile before step #1 and make 
  sure that it is swept up by Omniback during step #6.
   
  There is no need for step #2.
   
  Don't forget that step #6 also has to back up 
  archivelogs as well as datafiles and the controlfile backup.
   
  ---
   
  Better yet, do use RMAN instead.  The RMAN 
  user's guide describes exactly this scenario...
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Vladimir Barac 

To: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 5:03 
AM
Subject: ECM / BCV / hot backup

Good morning/afternoon/evening to 
everyone...
 
 
I'm about to "configure"  oracle 
backup policy using ECM storgae and HP OmniBack. My idea is as 
follows
 
 
1. put all tablespaces into backup 
mode (db is in arch. mode),
 
2. sleep 

 
3. do the split
 
4. take out tablespaces of backup 
mode,
 
5. alter system switch 
logfile,
 
6. let the Omni Back do it's 
job.
 
Anu do's and don't's regarding 
EMC/Oracle combination?
 
 


Re: ECM / BCV / hot backup

2002-12-05 Thread Vladimir Barac



Thanks a lot!
 
These advices will give me touch of 
seriousness at client's site...
 
Regards,
Vladimir Barac
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tim Gorman 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 
  14:48
  Subject: Re: ECM / BCV / hot backup
  
  
  
  
   
  Do backup controlfile before step #1 and make 
  sure that it is swept up by Omniback during step #6.
   
  There is no need for step #2.
   
  Don't forget that step #6 also has to back up 
  archivelogs as well as datafiles and the controlfile backup.
   
  ---
   
  Better yet, do use RMAN instead.  The RMAN 
  user's guide describes exactly this scenario...
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Vladimir Barac 

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 5:03 
AM
Subject: ECM / BCV / hot backup

Good morning/afternoon/evening to 
everyone...
 
 
I'm about to "configure"  oracle 
backup policy using ECM storgae and HP OmniBack. My idea is as 
follows
 
 
1. put all tablespaces into backup 
mode (db is in arch. mode),
 
2. sleep 

 
3. do the split
 
4. take out tablespaces of backup 
mode,
 
5. alter system switch 
logfile,
 
6. let the Omni Back do it's 
job.
 
Anu do's and don't's regarding 
EMC/Oracle combination?
 
 


Re: ECM / BCV / hot backup

2002-12-05 Thread Vladimir Barac



What do you mean by 

 
make sure that it is swept up by Omniback during 
step #6.
 
?
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tim Gorman 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 
  14:48
  Subject: Re: ECM / BCV / hot backup
  
  
  
  
   
  Do backup controlfile before step #1 and make 
  sure that it is swept up by Omniback during step #6.
   
  There is no need for step #2.
   
  Don't forget that step #6 also has to back up 
  archivelogs as well as datafiles and the controlfile backup.
   
  ---
   
  Better yet, do use RMAN instead.  The RMAN 
  user's guide describes exactly this scenario...
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Vladimir Barac 

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 5:03 
AM
Subject: ECM / BCV / hot backup

Good morning/afternoon/evening to 
everyone...
 
 
I'm about to "configure"  oracle 
backup policy using ECM storgae and HP OmniBack. My idea is as 
follows
 
 
1. put all tablespaces into backup 
mode (db is in arch. mode),
 
2. sleep 

 
3. do the split
 
4. take out tablespaces of backup 
mode,
 
5. alter system switch 
logfile,
 
6. let the Omni Back do it's 
job.
 
Anu do's and don't's regarding 
EMC/Oracle combination?
 
 


Re: ECM / BCV / hot backup

2002-12-05 Thread Tim Gorman






 
Do backup controlfile before step #1 and make sure 
that it is swept up by Omniback during step #6.
 
There is no need for step #2.
 
Don't forget that step #6 also has to back up 
archivelogs as well as datafiles and the controlfile backup.
 
---
 
Better yet, do use RMAN instead.  The RMAN 
user's guide describes exactly this scenario...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Vladimir Barac 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 5:03 
  AM
  Subject: ECM / BCV / hot backup
  
  Good morning/afternoon/evening to 
  everyone...
   
   
  I'm about to "configure"  oracle 
  backup policy using ECM storgae and HP OmniBack. My idea is as 
  follows
   
   
  1. put all tablespaces into backup mode 
  (db is in arch. mode),
   
  2. sleep 
  
   
  3. do the split
   
  4. take out tablespaces of backup 
  mode,
   
  5. alter system switch 
  logfile,
   
  6. let the Omni Back do it's 
  job.
   
  Anu do's and don't's regarding 
  EMC/Oracle combination?