RE: RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-30 Thread Bob Metelsky
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An brief overview
of Googles architecture

 

http://www.computer.org/micro/mi2003/m2022.pdf

 



 





Google does use Oracle,
but afaik only in-house for internal applications.  The clustered search
engine is entirely custom code and engine.  10,000 servers would be a
pretty big RAC install. :)





 





Thanks,





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I'm confused.  Does Tom Kyte actually say that Google uses Oracle
or is he talking of "google-like behaviour" in Oracle queries ?
Hemant

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RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-26 Thread Richard Ji
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There 
you go.  That's how we (DBAs) gonna make money in the 
future.

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 
  12:50 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and 
google.com
  Google like behavior in oracle queries? On top of real results you get 
  "paid placement" entries, some of them
  X-rated? That'll be the day.
   
   
  --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 
  

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Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and 
google.comI'm confused.  Does Tom Kyte 
actually say that Google uses Oracleor is he talking of "google-like 
behaviour" in Oracle queries ?HemantAt 07:24 AM 26-09-03 -0800, 
you wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/ordz 
  HTH Raj  
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RE: RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-26 Thread Matthew Zito
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Google 
does use Oracle, but afaik only in-house for internal applications.  The 
clustered search engine is entirely custom code and engine.  10,000 servers 
would be a pretty big RAC install. :)
 
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  RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and 
  google.comI'm confused.  Does Tom Kyte actually 
  say that Google uses Oracleor is he talking of "google-like behaviour" in 
  Oracle queries ?HemantAt 07:24 AM 26-09-03 -0800, you 
  wrote:
  http://tinyurl.com/ordz 
HTH Raj  
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
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RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-26 Thread Bellow, Bambi
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Hmm... 
gives me something to work on... I've got the name to go with it 
too...
 
"Before we look at your boring data, Bambi recommends you check this HOT 
HOT HOT XXXInfo!!"
 
Gives 
a whole new meaning to Relational Database.

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  RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and 
google.com
  Google like behavior in oracle queries? On top of real results you get 
  "paid placement" entries, some of them
  X-rated? That'll be the day.
   
   
  --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 
  

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google.comI'm confused.  Does Tom Kyte 
actually say that Google uses Oracleor is he talking of "google-like 
behaviour" in Oracle queries ?HemantAt 07:24 AM 26-09-03 -0800, 
you wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/ordz 
  HTH Raj  
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RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message



Google 
like behavior in oracle queries? On top of real results you get "paid placement" 
entries, some of them
X-rated? That'll be the day.
 
 
--Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 

  
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  Hemant K ChitaleSent: Friday, September 26, 2003 12:40 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and 
  google.comI'm confused.  Does Tom Kyte actually 
  say that Google uses Oracleor is he talking of "google-like behaviour" in 
  Oracle queries ?HemantAt 07:24 AM 26-09-03 -0800, you 
  wrote:
  http://tinyurl.com/ordz 
HTH Raj  
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
All Views expressed in this email are strictly 
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opinion is an art ! -Original 
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Re: RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-26 Thread rgaffuri
must have been google like behavior. i dont focus on every word. 
> 
> From: Hemant K Chitale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/09/26 Fri PM 12:39:53 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com
> 
> 


I'm confused.  Does Tom Kyte actually say that Google uses
Oracle
or is he talking of "google-like behaviour" in Oracle queries
?
Hemant
At 07:24 AM 26-09-03 -0800, you wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/ordz

HTH 
Raj 
 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. 
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RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-26 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra



Sorry Hemant ... 
 
The link points to RGaffuri's quest to find 'approximately how many rows 
will be received' part of the question.
 
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  RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and 
  google.comI'm confused.  Does Tom Kyte actually 
  say that Google uses Oracleor is he talking of "google-like behaviour" in 
  Oracle queries ?HemantAt 07:24 AM 26-09-03 -0800, you 
  wrote:
  http://tinyurl.com/ordz 
HTH Raj  
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
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RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-26 Thread Hemant K Chitale


I'm confused.  Does Tom Kyte actually say that Google uses
Oracle
or is he talking of "google-like behaviour" in Oracle queries
?
Hemant
At 07:24 AM 26-09-03 -0800, you wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/ordz

HTH 
Raj 
 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. 
QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 
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hmmm. must have read it wrong in the book. any idea how to get the 'estimated number of record returned? 


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RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-26 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com





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HTH
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Re: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com

2003-09-26 Thread rgaffuri
hmmm. must have read it wrong in the book. any idea how to get the 'estimated number 
of record returned? 
> 
> From: Hemant K Chitale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/09/26 Fri AM 10:44:40 EDT
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> Subject: Google's architecture -- was Re: paging and google.com
> 
> 
> Google certainly doesn't use an Oracle database. They just wouldn't get the 
> performance
> that they achieve currently.
> See this link on Google's architecture 
> :  http://www.computer.org/micro/mi2003/m2022.pdf
> 
> Hemant
> 
> At 05:44 AM 26-09-03 -0800, you wrote:
> >Im in the middle of Kytes new tuning book. He states that google uses a 
> >query similiar to this to return web pages in their search function:
> >
> >select /*+ FIRST_ROWS */ b.*
> >from ( select a.*, a.rownum
> >   from (your query here) a
> >   where rownum < <>)
> >where rownum > <>
> >
> >
> >If they are using oracle to do this, how do they get the estimated number 
> >of total results? Is it from 'cardinality'? Do you know which data 
> >dictionary that comes from? explain plan is costly so they cant be using that.
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