RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-12 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe 

no chance of me getting to either Cary, I am in the UK and our
training/seminar budget isn't exactly huge at the moment :-)

Regards

Lee

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Lee,

Just to prevent any confusion: We are having a Hotsos Clinic this
December in Hawaii, but February's Symposium event is "only" in Dallas.
:)


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Oct 1-3 San Francisco, Oct 15-17 Dallas, Dec 9-11
Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Next event: Miracle Database Forum, Sep 20-22 Middelfart Denmark



-Original Message-
Lee - lerobe
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

>From what I've read (and of course the location - aaah, Honolulu, my
favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos seminar everytime
(actually
no matter where it was ).
 
Regards
 
Lee

-Original Message-
Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely
important)
of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance
info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose.
Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the
variety
would be nice too.

-Original Message- 
] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


Hello List 

I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in
February

2003. 
The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. 
http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/
  

I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of
you 
recommended going. 
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332
 &nextpage=cal 
lpapers&conference_id=71 

MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to
spring 
for 
one of the two. 

Which one you recommend? 

Yechiel Adar 
Mehish 

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Re: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-11 Thread Yechiel Adar 

If I remember correctly from the OT list it better be a male hand.

Yechiel Adar
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> I think it depends on whose hand you have to shake as
> you enter the conference...
>
> (sorry - thats a little bit of an "in" joke)
>
> Cheers
> Connor
>
>  --- Robertson Lee - lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote: > From what I've read (and of course the
> location -
> > aaah, Honolulu, my
> > favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos
> > seminar everytime (actually
> > no matter where it was ).
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > Since performance tuning is just one aspect
> > (although extremely important)
> > of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I
> > would get performance
> > info. as well as other aspects of my role covered
> > and could pick/choose.
> > Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always
> > be great - the variety
> > would be nice too.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > ]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Hello List
> >
> > I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in
> > Dallas. Scheduled in February
> >
> > 2003.
> > The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo,
> > Gaja.
> > http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/
> > 
> >
> > I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on
> > May 2003, and many of you
> > recommended going.
> >
> http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332
> >
>
 > l> &nextpage=cal
> > lpapers&conference_id=71
> >
> > MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince
> > management to spring
> > for
> > one of the two.
> >
> > Which one you recommend?
> >
> > Yechiel Adar
> > Mehish
> >
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RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-11 Thread Cary Millsap 

Lee,

Just to prevent any confusion: We are having a Hotsos Clinic this
December in Hawaii, but February's Symposium event is "only" in Dallas.
:)


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Oct 1-3 San Francisco, Oct 15-17 Dallas, Dec 9-11
Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Next event: Miracle Database Forum, Sep 20-22 Middelfart Denmark



-Original Message-
Lee - lerobe
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

>From what I've read (and of course the location - aaah, Honolulu, my
favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos seminar everytime
(actually
no matter where it was ).
 
Regards
 
Lee

-Original Message-
Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely
important)
of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance
info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose.
Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the
variety
would be nice too.

-Original Message- 
] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


Hello List 

I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in
February

2003. 
The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. 
http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/
  

I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of
you 
recommended going. 
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332
 &nextpage=cal 
lpapers&conference_id=71 

MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to
spring 
for 
one of the two. 

Which one you recommend? 

Yechiel Adar 
Mehish 

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RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-11 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe 

 care to elaborate

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I think it depends on whose hand you have to shake as
you enter the conference...

(sorry - thats a little bit of an "in" joke)

Cheers
Connor

 --- Robertson Lee - lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > From what I've read (and of course the
location -
> aaah, Honolulu, my
> favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos
> seminar everytime (actually
> no matter where it was ).
>  
> Regards
>  
> Lee
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> 
> Since performance tuning is just one aspect
> (although extremely important)
> of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I
> would get performance
> info. as well as other aspects of my role covered
> and could pick/choose.
> Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always
> be great - the variety
> would be nice too.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM 
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
> 
> 
> Hello List 
> 
> I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in
> Dallas. Scheduled in February
> 
> 2003. 
> The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo,
> Gaja. 
> http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/
>   
> 
> I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on
> May 2003, and many of you 
> recommended going. 
>
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332
>
 l> &nextpage=cal 
> lpapers&conference_id=71 
> 
> MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince
> management to spring 
> for 
> one of the two. 
> 
> Which one you recommend? 
> 
> Yechiel Adar 
> Mehish 
> 
> -- 
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
> http://www.orafaq.com
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RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-11 Thread Connor McDonald 

I think it depends on whose hand you have to shake as
you enter the conference...

(sorry - thats a little bit of an "in" joke)

Cheers
Connor

 --- Robertson Lee - lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > From what I've read (and of course the
location -
> aaah, Honolulu, my
> favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos
> seminar everytime (actually
> no matter where it was ).
>  
> Regards
>  
> Lee
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> 
> Since performance tuning is just one aspect
> (although extremely important)
> of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I
> would get performance
> info. as well as other aspects of my role covered
> and could pick/choose.
> Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always
> be great - the variety
> would be nice too.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM 
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
> 
> 
> Hello List 
> 
> I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in
> Dallas. Scheduled in February
> 
> 2003. 
> The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo,
> Gaja. 
> http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/
>   
> 
> I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on
> May 2003, and many of you 
> recommended going. 
>
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332
>
 l> &nextpage=cal 
> lpapers&conference_id=71 
> 
> MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince
> management to spring 
> for 
> one of the two. 
> 
> Which one you recommend? 
> 
> Yechiel Adar 
> Mehish 
> 
> -- 
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
> http://www.orafaq.com
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RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-11 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe 

>From what I've read (and of course the location - aaah, Honolulu, my
favourite place) my choice would be the Hotsos seminar everytime (actually
no matter where it was ).
 
Regards
 
Lee

-Original Message-
Sent: 10 September 2002 17:39
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important)
of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance
info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose.
Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety
would be nice too.

-Original Message- 
] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:23 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


Hello List 

I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February

2003. 
The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja. 
http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/
  

I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you 
recommended going. 
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332
 &nextpage=cal 
lpapers&conference_id=71 

MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring 
for 
one of the two. 

Which one you recommend? 

Yechiel Adar 
Mehish 

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Re: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-10 Thread Rachel Carmichael 

I stand (sit?) corrected... the Hotsos Seminar will have vendors.

Possibly a more selective list of vendors, but there will be vendors
there. 


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> 
> The Hotsos Seminar will be strictly tuning, will be very intense on
> that, will not have vendors
> 
> The IOUG conference will have a vendor hall, will have a much wider
> variety of presentations on all topics
> 
> It's sort of like deciding between a meal at a buffet, where you get
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> you
> get a larger portion of something you want.
> 
> 
> --- Yechiel Adar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in
> > February
> > 2003.
> > The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja.
> > http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/
> > 
> > I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and
> many
> > of you
> > recommended going.
> >
>
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332&nextpage=cal
> > lpapers&conference_id=71
> > 
> > MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to
> > spring
> > for
> > one of the two.
> > 
> > Which one you recommend?
> > 
> > Yechiel Adar
> > Mehish
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RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-10 Thread Johnson, Michael 

Goto Both 

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Hello List

I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February
2003.
The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja.
http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/

I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you
recommended going.
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332&nextpage=cal
lpapers&conference_id=71

MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring
for
one of the two.

Which one you recommend?

Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-10 Thread Cary Millsap 

Yechiel,

Just to clarify... There are actually two different event types here
that I think Jared might have blended together in his response.

1. The Hotsos Clinic is a 3-day course, taught by Jeff Holt and me,
dedicated to the single purpose of teaching Oracle performance problem
diagnosis and repair. This is the thing scheduled for SF and Dallas in
October, and Honolulu in December.

2. The first annual Hotsos Symposium will be held Feb in Dallas. This
event is a conference dedicated to Oracle performance, with several
internationally acclaimed Oracle performance experts (Tom Kyte, Jonathan
Lewis, Anjo, Gaja, James Morle, etc.) on the agenda.



Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Oct 1-3 San Francisco, Oct 15-17 Dallas, Dec 9-11
Honolulu
- 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas
- Next event: Miracle Database Forum, Sep 20-22 Middelfart Denmark



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I don't think you can really compare them.  I haven't been to 
a HOTSOS seminar, but it is in depth tuning of Oracle.

IOUG is a smorgasboard of Oracle topics and an excellent
networking opportunity.

Jared






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Hello List

I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in 
February
2003.
The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja.
http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/

I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of 
you
recommended going.
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332&nextpage
=cal
lpapers&conference_id=71

MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to
spring
for
one of the two.

Which one you recommend?

Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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Re: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-10 Thread Jared . Still 

I don't think you can really compare them.  I haven't been to 
a HOTSOS seminar, but it is in depth tuning of Oracle.

IOUG is a smorgasboard of Oracle topics and an excellent
networking opportunity.

Jared






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Hello List

I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in 
February
2003.
The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja.
http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/

I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of 
you
recommended going.
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332&nextpage=cal
lpapers&conference_id=71

MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring
for
one of the two.

Which one you recommend?

Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-10 Thread mkb 

Are we taking votes?

>From what Cary/Gaja/Anjo/Tom etc have contributed so
far on list, I'd say Hotsos.

Hey Cary, when are you planning to present in the
Washington DC area?

mkb

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> (although extremely important)
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> Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always
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> Hello List
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> I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in
> Dallas. Scheduled in February
> 2003.
> The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo,
> Gaja.
> http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/
> 
> I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on
> May 2003, and many of you
> recommended going.
>
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332&nextpage=cal
> lpapers&conference_id=71
> 
> MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince
> management to spring
> for
> one of the two.
> 
> Which one you recommend?
> 
> Yechiel Adar
> Mehish
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RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-10 Thread Karniotis, Stephen 

Given that you will probably see Anjo, Cary, Tom and potentially Gaja, at
the event, I would recommend IOUG Live!
Reason 1:   Significantly more presentations
Reason 2:   More opportunities to network with other people in your
position
Reason 3:   Greater opportunity to share your stories


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I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February
2003.
The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja.
http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/

I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you
recommended going.
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332&nextpage=cal
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MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring
for
one of the two.

Which one you recommend?

Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-10 Thread Paula_Stankus 
Title: RE: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar





Since performance tuning is just one aspect (although extremely important) of my DBA role I would choose IOUG thinking that I would get performance info. as well as other aspects of my role covered and could pick/choose.  Although a conference with Cary Millsap would always be great - the variety would be nice too.

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Hello List


I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in February
2003.
The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja.
http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/


I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many of you
recommended going.
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332&nextpage=cal
lpapers&conference_id=71


MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to spring
for
one of the two.


Which one you recommend?


Yechiel Adar
Mehish


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Re: Ioug meeting or HOTSOS Seminar

2002-09-10 Thread Rachel Carmichael 

Depends on what you are looking for.

The Hotsos Seminar will be strictly tuning, will be very intense on
that, will not have vendors

The IOUG conference will have a vendor hall, will have a much wider
variety of presentations on all topics

It's sort of like deciding between a meal at a buffet, where you get
only a taste of a lot of things, or having a regular dinner, where you
get a larger portion of something you want.


--- Yechiel Adar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello List
> 
> I got a message about Hotsos Tuning seminar in Dallas. Scheduled in
> February
> 2003.
> The lecturers list include among others: Tom, Anjo, Gaja.
> http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/
> 
> I also know that there is an IOUG Live meeting on May 2003, and many
> of you
> recommended going.
>
http://bneo15.sba.com/ew/ioug/index3.cfm?clientsess_id=07332332&nextpage=cal
> lpapers&conference_id=71
> 
> MAYBE (not shouting but a big maybe) I will convince management to
> spring
> for
> one of the two.
> 
> Which one you recommend?
> 
> Yechiel Adar
> Mehish
> 
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